Quin looked horribly unsure and Patricia looked like he really wanted someone else. How many years of just willy-nilly drafting with no plan have we had to endure?
I found myself often skipping videos like this when they were released. Or any type of press conference or interview, Matt just struck a nerve every single time
@@chevy4x466It's one thing to be Matt Millen who had no business getting the job in the first place and Rod Marinelli same thing...these two were supposed to be gurus from the best organization in the NFL and they were just as bad.
It was worse than a joke!!! Quinntricia ran us into the ground!!! In their drafts, there was absolutely NO energy at all!!! Toxic culture and absolutely disastrous!! Holmes and Campbell, however, couldn't find more passion from anyone else!!! Absolutely LOVE the energy they bring to the table! Now top notch players WANT to come here!!!
To me it looked like Holmes, Campbell, Agnew and some of the scouts were kids while Shiela, rod and Spielman were like the parents. It really did have a family like atmosphere where you felt 100% comfortable
Agreed. No one in that room looked happy to be a part of the organization. Much different now, thanks to MCDC and Brad Holmes. I tend to think Sheila had a big hand in this too.
Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical
@johnnation6744 her mother was in charge during the "Detroit Patriots" era, so it's really more on her. Her mother really didn't give a flying fuck because she really didn't know what she was doing
@@TheRealBatBoyAlive you really think that sheila had no involvement in the hiring process before 2020? She was sitting in the draft room right next to her 98 year old mother in the 2019 video. Her and Rod Wood were apart of the group that hired Patricia and Quinn so this whole narrative that she saved the team from her mother is comical. Also, remember that Martha reached out to well-respected GM Ernie Acorsi and he was the one who recommended the hiring of Quinn and Patricia so this idea that Martha didn't give a fuck when she hired a well-respected former GM to help with the hiring process (exactly what people are giving Sheila credit for with Chris Spielman) is in my opinion unfair to say that she didn't give give a fuck. Just my opinion. Sorry if I'm coming off strong lol
Not even the reaction, but look how they are dressed and how they talk to each other and to the player. Stuff, stilted, self absorbed vs loose, comfortable and confident. Total command and control vs collaboration. Incredible
Thanks for putting these together. It's so crazy how much more excited and lively this staff is... And that includes the scouts and coaches. I love this new atmosphere
The first thing I noticed is that Bob Quinn couldn’t call the draft pick himself. He had one of his lackeys do it. Brad Holmes not only called the draft pick himself, you could feel the excitement from him and the new regime
Holmes called that pick in so quick that he got yelled at by the NFL because they wanted more suspense - but he didn't care and did it again the next year. He knows who he wants and doesn't need to play games.
I noticed the same thing. Brad Holmes is the one in charge and is the one calling the players and speaking with them first like a real leader does. I love this new Lions staff so much and hope we win numerous championships with them
When we were trying to be the mini Patriots in 2019 vs 2021 building to become the Detroit F’ing Lions. Quinn and Patricia were like leftover cold hamburger that someone stepped on and left on the counter for a few hours vs Holmes and MCDC who are like the greatest Filet you’ve ever tasted. Patricia took a team that was close to the playoffs, drove them into the ground and said it was the players’ fault and he wasn’t given enough talent. Campbell took a team with little talent and developed a culture and a foundation. One Pride. Let’s Go Lions!
Exactly! I do not understand why Matt Patricia had excuses for the regression of the Detroit Lions. You weren't given enough talent? Buddy, you squandered Matthew Stafford in his prime. You also had Darius Slay, Quandre Diggs, Glover Quin, Golden Tate, and others you could build around to make a possible Super Bowl contender. But instead you signed bums like Trey Flowers, LeGarrette Blount, a worn out Adrian Peterson, and other busts. Plus you drafted a tight end...in the first round. Literally the best thing to come out of their tenure was Frank Ragnow so I guess even a broken clock is right at least twice a day.
A friend of mine said this video popped up in his recommended feed. That's crazy I kinda forgot about this. Shoutout to my fellow Lions fans though! Can't wait for the 2024 season! Let's go!
@@holla18atme Don`t think so!Okay now he is at the Vikes but Hockenson is a good TE,one of the best in this League!And when our Sammy LaPorta wasn`t so good we would regret that T.J.is now in Minnesota!But after we have seen what LaPorta can do,we forgot that T.J.was a good TE!
It’s boneheaded to draft a TE in a value position in the top 10 when your team has so many other issues. Unfortunately Quinn tried to fill in spots with Pats castoffs and drafted slow players like Tavai and Tabor, and neither worked. Then they drove off or got rid of good defensive players like Slay and Diggs. Holmes helped build a winner with LA and MCDC is a leader of men and has all sorts of connections from his time as a player and coach.
Gotcha. One thing I don't understand, Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical to me. Idk
@@johnnation6744 pay attention to there facial expressions, sheila looks she has dread, like she knows there picking the wrong person, martha looks like she could give a flying crap if we took a dude ranked #200 on the espn draft board, people give credit to sheila for caring, because she is the first and only person in her family to do so.
Sitting in the background is John Dorsey - the guy who drafted Mahomes in KC, then brought the Browns back to prominence, and then built the Lions into a Super Bowl contender.
@@podunkest Yes I think with them,our Team will have the Chance to be in the Playoffs every single Year!They have a real Talent at drafting good Players and not just looking at the Name of the Player!They ever look,if this Player could fit in this Locker Room with this new culture so they take Giovanni Manu!I did not know him before so in the 1st Moment I was like:WHAT???But I trust them!Manu must learn a little bit,sure,but he will improve from Year to Year,no Question about it!When we look at the Players they get to this Time:Penei Sewell=great Monster Tackle!Amon-Ra=The Motor and Heart of our Offense/Jameson Williams:Hard injury to overcome but now he become better and better!Jahmyr Gibbs:What a RB,absolutely phenomenal!Sam LaPorta=The Golden Boy from the Iowa Hawkeyes,he will be the best TE in the League when Travis Kelce retires!James Houston=Very good Pass Rusher,okay last Year he was injured but when he returns,i am sure he get back on track!Brian Branch=He is a great Safety and he is not at 100%now-He will be better and better every Year,too!Alim McNeill is also a talented DT and now they bring in Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw-I think both are very good Cornerbacks now and could be elite in 2 Years!And not just the drafted Players,the Free Agents are very good,too!Amik Robertson is a real CB Beast i think and Carlton Davis has so much Power left in the Tank!And of course D.J.Reader!OMG!When he is healthy he is a wrecking Ball!Okay he looks a little bit injury-proned but most of the Time thats small injuries and he comes back very fast!Same with Marcus Davenport!I truly believe in Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell,Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn!With this new Secondary Aaron Glenn will rock it!And if our Jared plays like last Season,we could do it again and win the North and rock the Playoffs!But it will be harder next Season because the other 3 Teams haven`t sleep in the last Months!Look at the Bears with the new Offense!Caleb Williams can throw now to Keenan Allen,D.J.Moore,Rome Odunze,Cole Kmet and Gerald Everett!That is now a great Offense!Packers have a good Offense since last Year,too and we could see that Jordan Love is the Right Man in the Pocket and if J.J.McCarthy fits in the Team really fast,the Vikings could be a real Threat,too!But our Lions will do this and make it to the PO again and I will hope that there is a rematch in the Playoffs against the 9ers!I like the 9ers but they beat us last Season so we must get the Revenge and beat them!100%pure Love to the Staff and Jared Goff,JahMonty (Gibbs +Montgomery),TransportaLaPorta,Amon-Ra,Jamo,J.Mitchell,B.Wright,DPJ,Kalif Raymond,M.Alexander,Tre`Quan Smith,Antoine G.,Shane Z.,Penei Sewell,T.Decker,K.Zeitler,G.Glasgow,F.Ragnow,D.Skipper,C.Sorsdal,K.Awosika,J.Cominsky,A.Hutchinson,Alim McNeill,L.Onwuzurike,Kyle Peko,Mitch Agude,Charles Harris,Brodric Martin,Jalen Reeves-Maybin,Alex Anzalone,Derrick Barnes,Marcus Davenport,D.J.Reader,H.Hooker,Sione Vaki,Tom Kennedy,M.Farniok,C.Galvin,C.Mahogany,G.Manu,J.Paschal,M.Wingo,Mathieu Betts,J.Campbell,J.Houston,Rodrigo,Terrion Arnold,B.Branch,Carlton Davis,Ifeatu Melifonwu,Khalil Dorsey,Steven Gilmore,Craig James,Emmanuel Moseley,C.J.Moore,Ennis Rakestraw,Kerby Joseph,Brandon Joseph,Kindle Vildor,Amik Robertson,Michael Badgley,Chris Smith,Netane Muti,Michael Niese,Daurice Fountain,Isaiah Williams,Craig Reynolds,Zonovan Knight,Jermar Jeffersonand Nate Sudfeld!Hope I have all Players here,but sorry when it isn`t so!
This will only keep aging better. THANK YOU for putting these side by side! What an ego dumpster 🔥 looks next to a team centric, high character & building for sustained championships, regime.
A World Of Difference.. I was on board when Sheila took over.. I could tell she had the pulse of the city and fans. Loved ALL the hires. This is what I've been waiting for for 50yrs. Let's Fucking Go Boys. Detroit Vs Everybody
Thank you so much for posting this. That shows everything you need to know without showing much. Pictures (video clips) are worth a thousand words. Go LIONS!!!
It was TJ Hockenson, our most proven returning offensive skill position player for the Lions, and nobody looked like they gave a care that we were getting him. Like they chose him by accident. Quinn said, "We didn't speak to you on purpose because we liked you." What is that? Middle school philosophy? He sounded like he was lying through his teeth. Then Patricia unconvincingly says "We got the right guy." There was no conviction in anything they said.
It kinda felt like Quinntricia were deadset on getting their guy, but the rest of the room were adamant about going in a different direction. And by the time they were on the clock, everyone else in that room had been beaten into submission. So much so that they couldn't even pretend to be excited about it. And the saddest thing is that Quinntricia weren't even convinced that it was the best pick. Sounds like Fatty P was still trying to convince himself that it was the right move like five minutes after the pick was turned in. I love Hock, but man this was brutal.
@@tristinmckinstry6467 Yeah it looked split with Quinntricia. Meanwhile it seemed like with Holmes and Campbell, they were all on the same page with getting Sewell.
@Tristan....That's how I read the room too. With as many roster holes they had tight end wasn't the right pick. They could have traded down and still gotten hockenson.
Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical
you really think that sheila had no involvement in the hiring process before 2020? She was sitting in the draft room right next to her 98 year old mother in the 2019 video. Her and Rod Wood were apart of the group that hired Patricia and Quinn so this whole narrative that she saved the team from her mother is comical. Also, remember that Martha reached out to well-respected GM Ernie Acorsi and he was the one who recommended the hiring of Quinn and Patricia so this idea that Martha didn't give a fuck when she hired a well-respected former GM to help with the hiring process (exactly what people are giving Sheila credit for with Chris Spielman) is in my opinion unfair to say that she didn't give give a fuck. Just my opinion. Sorry if I'm coming off strong lol
Sewell became the best right tackle (or left tackle if needed) in the league and a first ballot HOF as soon as his name came out of Roger Goodell's mouth.
Hats off to the owner they took a lot of heat with fans city staff and vets and changed it up to get a system that is building a identity to this team in the first time in 30 + yrs
I’m watching this post first playoff win in 30 years feeing so grateful for Brad and Dan. What the heck were all those pencil pushers doing in the room in 2019. If you ever wanted to know what negative energy looks like take a still photo of that. You could tell that Bill Bellicheck never Let anyone make a decision.
How do you think it made peneii feel to hear the coach and the GM in the background screaming with joy like little kids at the opportunity to have you on there team?!
The way Brad Holmes and Coach DC celebrate drafting players is what's setting the winning culture. This is what top-down culture looks like. Way to go Sheila for making this happen! I'm so excited for the coming season!! let's goooooo!!!! 🔥🔥
Thanks for your injection of professionalism Sheila. Lions were needlessly tight-lipped for decades and now they may have the slickest media group in the NFL. _One Pride_
This is amazing to look at. After Holmes and Campbell took over for Quintricia (thank you Hamm!), see that there's no ties in that room? Top shirts mostly unbuttoned? Some actual emotion from the leaders? Words to the Sewell about just being who he is and playing like he has? Changes take time, but you can see the seeds there.
Man, let it never be understated how lucky we are to now have a front office and coaching staff that care like these guys. The cultural shift has been nothing short of miraculous
This is great. Every Lion fan needs to see this. Forgetting the theatrics. The fact that Brad Holmes trd TJ for a better cheaper IA TE a couple of yrs later. It’s genius.
@@roems6396 Don't really blame him. He never asked for a move and wanted a new deal here. Business is Business but I don't blame players for being salty in that scenario
I don’t even know Brad Holmes. I’ve never met him, but I can tell you this much. I would run through a brick wall for that guy. I am beyond impressed with him.
It’s incredible the difference the front office and coaches and GM can make. That 2019 draft room was all business but that 2021 was all desire to win and build.
The fire, determination, and energetic enthusiasm hasn't changed one bit since that first draft pick that Holmes and Campbell made. They know who they want, and they get them. Without any doubt, they believe in their guys. Quinntrica had fear and hesitantancy in there pick. Even though Hock is a great player, there seemed to be still so much doubt and questioning in what they were doing.
i mean when Patricia came here, pretty sure everyone was like “holy shit he’s gonna bring us to the promise land! he won a bunch of superbowls!” i don’t think anyone expected this shit show
thank you! Hiensight is always 2020 and people are quick to forget that he was the top head coaching candidate that year who every team wanted and that a lot of fans were excited when he was hired
At the time I felt it was a travesty to fire Caldwell, who had a solid record, and I had the impression Quinn was bringing just bringing in one of his cronies.
Ehhh not so sure about that given how many patriots assistants fared after leaving NE. When all that stupid stuff about sexual misconduct or whatever came out after they hired Patricia a lot of us reacted like holy crap we just fumbled the bag again
You can’t write a thesis paper on how NOT to run a draft war room!! Thank you Shiela, Rod, and Chris for selecting Brad and Dan!! The culture has been set for years to come!!🙏 #1pride
Dan Campbell doesn't sound like Boomerhauer, but he talks like Boomhauer: "You gonna change the culture for us, man. We are gonna build this thing around guys like you, ya hear me. You come in and play just like you been playin, man. You come in, you come in to compete, man. You be just as nasty and dirty as you've been and you're gonna help us turn this thing around. We gonna be winners, man."
im so happy for dan campbell and the lions, i first noticed him when the lions kept losing close games and they lost that miracle game against the ravens with that kick from 66 yards, dan campbell got me with hes team talk after that loss, i thought wow, that is a proper coach that players will gravitate towards, if they give him the time the lions will be special was my thought, look at the lions now, they are the best team in the nfc, and they are going places.
so many extra suits in that draft room in 2019... yes i guess pre covid vs 2021 they had a little less people areound etc, but looked like 2019 they were doing things the wrng way on many different levels.
3:32 you could tell by the way they were looking at each other they hated the fact there was a camera in there lol. They wanted to say something but wouldn't because they're f*cking losers. As much as I despise those two, I'm grateful for them because we would have never had Sheila take over and hire Chris Spielman, BH and MCDC.
Its not even just the attitudes that have changed you look at the amount of people in Matt and Bob's war room vs Dan and Brad its insane. they cut down on like 75% of the people. I will never understand how it took Brad Holmes this long to get a GM Job.
At first, I didn't want to watch this garbage. But I'm glad you put this up here. Can't forget how bad it was. Make you appreciate this regime even more knowing that he built it from the studs up.
It’s honestly pretty apparent that the last GM and head coach didn’t give a shit about bringing winning football to the city of Detroit. No excitement about their pick. No one in that war room looked happy at all. This new regime is a fresh breath of air
An excellent, and painful comparison. This should be shown in schools. A perfect example of a turnaround from the poorly run organization, full of insecure and incompetent people at the top, to the real team of genuine, confident and very well-prepared management. Everything starts at the top and we can now see the results. In 5 years from the laughing stock to the bona fide Superbowl contender. Lets' go Detroit 💪
I'd be more excited when a generational tackle drops to me too. Having said that, I kind of think Patricia was frustrated/not sure about the Hock pick.
You could hear people doing paperwork in Patricia's room. He's sitting at the front of the room like a teacher or something. I AM a teacher and my class is never THAT quiet. Damn.
Culture doesn’t mean something, culture means Everything!!!!!! The contrast is just insane……. I often wonder what Matt Patricia thinks about what’s going on now with the Detroit Lions.
Honestly, Patricia showed more emotion than anyone else in that room. He was a bad coach, but he seemed to actually have emotions out of everyone there. I wonder if Quinn/a few other guys overruled others on that pick.
2019 looked like the gathering after a funeral.
They played like it to. That’s why I feel so different this year!
Lmao, everyone looks so disconnected, except for pencil head
Quin looked horribly unsure and Patricia looked like he really wanted someone else. How many years of just willy-nilly drafting with no plan have we had to endure?
@@bobby_Dhow about this year?🦁
Now get back to your mom’s basement and think of more witty thoughts.
"You're going to be a Lion for a long time!"
Fat Patricia seemed so upset about his pick.
That's terrible picking on a man's size
Let's just call him fluffy
The fact they sat there and watched the analysis is telling.
Dan and Brad don’t give a damn about what’s going down on TV.
The Lions organization was a joke under Patricia and that GM. Thank you Chris Spielman for helping the lions find Holmes and Campbell
It was almost like they did everything wrong on purpose. Looking back at that era angers me
I found myself often skipping videos like this when they were released. Or any type of press conference or interview, Matt just struck a nerve every single time
@@chevy4x466It's one thing to be Matt Millen who had no business getting the job in the first place and Rod Marinelli same thing...these two were supposed to be gurus from the best organization in the NFL and they were just as bad.
@@Tigersfan829 it’s almost as if they sabotaged the franchise on purpose.
It was worse than a joke!!! Quinntricia ran us into the ground!!! In their drafts, there was absolutely NO energy at all!!! Toxic culture and absolutely disastrous!! Holmes and Campbell, however, couldn't find more passion from anyone else!!! Absolutely LOVE the energy they bring to the table! Now top notch players WANT to come here!!!
I like Brad Holmes more and more everytime I read or see anything about him.
2019 looks and sounds like a business that knows its gonna fail and 2021 looks like a cutting-edge tech company on the rise.
Golf crowd in 2019 compared to a 2021 football family watching their team score a touchdown. I love the new regime.
Me to brother.
To me it looked like Holmes, Campbell, Agnew and some of the scouts were kids while Shiela, rod and Spielman were like the parents. It really did have a family like atmosphere where you felt 100% comfortable
Matt patricia has a pencil in his ear even when its draft day and in a suit? this mans a character lmao
exactly 😆
Hey you never know when someone's making a Burger King run and his order is not short
Cartoon character
Yeah, he had the audacity to ask one of the journalist to sit up during a press conference. What a clown.
There couldn’t possibly be a bigger difference in culture. Detroit finally has the team we’ve waited our lifetimes for. One Pride
Agreed. No one in that room looked happy to be a part of the organization. Much different now, thanks to MCDC and Brad Holmes. I tend to think Sheila had a big hand in this too.
Night and F*cking Day!!!!! Wow, I actually teared up a bit, no really I did!
Me to.
Right here
I did too. Im 44 and never thought football could make me this teary eyed it's crazy! I love this fucking team man
2:21 Shiela looks at Patricia giving two thumbs up, but is really thinking “I’m about to fire this whole god damn office and fix this thing myself”
Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical
@@johnnation6744She was obviously not in charge. You didn’t pick up on that.
@johnnation6744 her mother was in charge during the "Detroit Patriots" era, so it's really more on her. Her mother really didn't give a flying fuck because she really didn't know what she was doing
@@TheRealBatBoyAlive you really think that sheila had no involvement in the hiring process before 2020? She was sitting in the draft room right next to her 98 year old mother in the 2019 video. Her and Rod Wood were apart of the group that hired Patricia and Quinn so this whole narrative that she saved the team from her mother is comical. Also, remember that Martha reached out to well-respected GM Ernie Acorsi and he was the one who recommended the hiring of Quinn and Patricia so this idea that Martha didn't give a fuck when she hired a well-respected former GM to help with the hiring process (exactly what people are giving Sheila credit for with Chris Spielman) is in my opinion unfair to say that she didn't give give a fuck. Just my opinion. Sorry if I'm coming off strong lol
You can see it in her face 😂
Not even the reaction, but look how they are dressed and how they talk to each other and to the player.
Stuff, stilted, self absorbed vs loose, comfortable and confident.
Total command and control vs collaboration.
Incredible
That is what a change in culture looks like.
Thanks for putting these together. It's so crazy how much more excited and lively this staff is... And that includes the scouts and coaches. I love this new atmosphere
So awesome coming back to this after the payday they just gave Sewell.
What a great organization!
BEST - TACKLE - IN - FOOTBALL. They were completely correct when they said they were going to build this thing around guys like Sewell.
I hear that!
Matt Patricia only got that excited when the buffet would be rolled in to the locker room
Bro! I just got in trouble at work I laughed so loud
I’d get pretty excited for that not going to lie
@@MarylandManson29lol
@@EricRipperOfficial can I get a job? Been out of work for 2 years but trust me I’m a good worker
The first thing I noticed is that Bob Quinn couldn’t call the draft pick himself. He had one of his lackeys do it. Brad Holmes not only called the draft pick himself, you could feel the excitement from him and the new regime
Yea that's insane, holmes is a much better gm thats why were winning now 🎉
Holmes called that pick in so quick that he got yelled at by the NFL because they wanted more suspense - but he didn't care and did it again the next year. He knows who he wants and doesn't need to play games.
@@jetsamperes5762 Yeah but I'm sure he learned his lesson lol
@@jetsamperes5762that just gives me even MORE madden vibes. Picking your guy right away with no hesitation
I noticed the same thing. Brad Holmes is the one in charge and is the one calling the players and speaking with them first like a real leader does. I love this new Lions staff so much and hope we win numerous championships with them
This kinda brought tears to my eyes 👀 to have a duo WHO ACTUALLY TAKES AFTER THE CITY AND CARE AND SHOW IT THAT'S DOPE!! #ONEPRIDE #ITSMRNASTYTIME!!
When we were trying to be the mini Patriots in 2019 vs 2021 building to become the Detroit F’ing Lions. Quinn and Patricia were like leftover cold hamburger that someone stepped on and left on the counter for a few hours vs Holmes and MCDC who are like the greatest Filet you’ve ever tasted. Patricia took a team that was close to the playoffs, drove them into the ground and said it was the players’ fault and he wasn’t given enough talent. Campbell took a team with little talent and developed a culture and a foundation. One Pride. Let’s Go Lions!
Exactly! I do not understand why Matt Patricia had excuses for the regression of the Detroit Lions. You weren't given enough talent? Buddy, you squandered Matthew Stafford in his prime. You also had Darius Slay, Quandre Diggs, Glover Quin, Golden Tate, and others you could build around to make a possible Super Bowl contender. But instead you signed bums like Trey Flowers, LeGarrette Blount, a worn out Adrian Peterson, and other busts. Plus you drafted a tight end...in the first round. Literally the best thing to come out of their tenure was Frank Ragnow so I guess even a broken clock is right at least twice a day.
A friend of mine said this video popped up in his recommended feed. That's crazy I kinda forgot about this. Shoutout to my fellow Lions fans though! Can't wait for the 2024 season! Let's go!
Here after The Lions clinched the #1 seed!
This video still gives chills 3 years later - This was the beginning of amazing things
Patricia honestly looked pissed that they took Hock 🤣
I think Patricia wanted to go defense
@@zacgrasl4229he must've 😂 bro was just endlessly staring in the screen when they announced the pick
@@Lowkeylit69 He knew it was a wrap.
@@holla18atme Don`t think so!Okay now he is at the Vikes but Hockenson is a good TE,one of the best in this League!And when our Sammy LaPorta wasn`t so good we would regret that T.J.is now in Minnesota!But after we have seen what LaPorta can do,we forgot that T.J.was a good TE!
It’s boneheaded to draft a TE in a value position in the top 10 when your team has so many other issues. Unfortunately Quinn tried to fill in spots with Pats castoffs and drafted slow players like Tavai and Tabor, and neither worked. Then they drove off or got rid of good defensive players like Slay and Diggs. Holmes helped build a winner with LA and MCDC is a leader of men and has all sorts of connections from his time as a player and coach.
50 people in the 2019 room vs 5 in 2021😂😂 thank you holmes sheila ford and campbell for turning this team around.
Agree! Thank you Sheila
I think that was because of COVID that they could only have a certain number of people in the room
@@johnnation6744 I get that, even in the 2023 draft tho we didn't have a lot of people in the room
Gotcha. One thing I don't understand, Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical to me. Idk
@@johnnation6744 pay attention to there facial expressions, sheila looks she has dread, like she knows there picking the wrong person, martha looks like she could give a flying crap if we took a dude ranked #200 on the espn draft board, people give credit to sheila for caring, because she is the first and only person in her family to do so.
We could go 0-17 this year and it’ll be Brad Holmes Dan Campbell > Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia
Hope we do for those draft picks. Seems like we finally have competent management.
Facts!
For real man frfr
Look at them now 😎😎 they fr did build around Penei ! Absolutely love this team, hell of a season. One pride!
@@dinklezucc5982we're coming back stronger next year 🦁
Sitting in the background is John Dorsey - the guy who drafted Mahomes in KC, then brought the Browns back to prominence, and then built the Lions into a Super Bowl contender.
I pray that the Lions ownership never goes through this 2019 horrible nightmare ever again , in Jesus name . Amen.
Brad and Dan are gonna be around a long time methinks
@@podunkest Yes I think with them,our Team will have the Chance to be in the Playoffs every single Year!They have a real Talent at drafting good Players and not just looking at the Name of the Player!They ever look,if this Player could fit in this Locker Room with this new culture so they take Giovanni Manu!I did not know him before so in the 1st Moment I was like:WHAT???But I trust them!Manu must learn a little bit,sure,but he will improve from Year to Year,no Question about it!When we look at the Players they get to this Time:Penei Sewell=great Monster Tackle!Amon-Ra=The Motor and Heart of our Offense/Jameson Williams:Hard injury to overcome but now he become better and better!Jahmyr Gibbs:What a RB,absolutely phenomenal!Sam LaPorta=The Golden Boy from the Iowa Hawkeyes,he will be the best TE in the League when Travis Kelce retires!James Houston=Very good Pass Rusher,okay last Year he was injured but when he returns,i am sure he get back on track!Brian Branch=He is a great Safety and he is not at 100%now-He will be better and better every Year,too!Alim McNeill is also a talented DT and now they bring in Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw-I think both are very good Cornerbacks now and could be elite in 2 Years!And not just the drafted Players,the Free Agents are very good,too!Amik Robertson is a real CB Beast i think and Carlton Davis has so much Power left in the Tank!And of course D.J.Reader!OMG!When he is healthy he is a wrecking Ball!Okay he looks a little bit injury-proned but most of the Time thats small injuries and he comes back very fast!Same with Marcus Davenport!I truly believe in Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell,Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn!With this new Secondary Aaron Glenn will rock it!And if our Jared plays like last Season,we could do it again and win the North and rock the Playoffs!But it will be harder next Season because the other 3 Teams haven`t sleep in the last Months!Look at the Bears with the new Offense!Caleb Williams can throw now to Keenan Allen,D.J.Moore,Rome Odunze,Cole Kmet and Gerald Everett!That is now a great Offense!Packers have a good Offense since last Year,too and we could see that Jordan Love is the Right Man in the Pocket and if J.J.McCarthy fits in the Team really fast,the Vikings could be a real Threat,too!But our Lions will do this
and make it to the PO again and I will hope that there is a rematch in the Playoffs against the 9ers!I like the 9ers but they beat us last Season so we must get the Revenge and beat them!100%pure Love to the Staff and Jared Goff,JahMonty (Gibbs +Montgomery),TransportaLaPorta,Amon-Ra,Jamo,J.Mitchell,B.Wright,DPJ,Kalif Raymond,M.Alexander,Tre`Quan Smith,Antoine G.,Shane Z.,Penei Sewell,T.Decker,K.Zeitler,G.Glasgow,F.Ragnow,D.Skipper,C.Sorsdal,K.Awosika,J.Cominsky,A.Hutchinson,Alim McNeill,L.Onwuzurike,Kyle Peko,Mitch Agude,Charles Harris,Brodric Martin,Jalen Reeves-Maybin,Alex Anzalone,Derrick Barnes,Marcus Davenport,D.J.Reader,H.Hooker,Sione Vaki,Tom Kennedy,M.Farniok,C.Galvin,C.Mahogany,G.Manu,J.Paschal,M.Wingo,Mathieu Betts,J.Campbell,J.Houston,Rodrigo,Terrion Arnold,B.Branch,Carlton Davis,Ifeatu Melifonwu,Khalil Dorsey,Steven Gilmore,Craig James,Emmanuel Moseley,C.J.Moore,Ennis Rakestraw,Kerby Joseph,Brandon Joseph,Kindle Vildor,Amik Robertson,Michael Badgley,Chris Smith,Netane Muti,Michael Niese,Daurice Fountain,Isaiah Williams,Craig Reynolds,Zonovan Knight,Jermar Jeffersonand Nate Sudfeld!Hope I have all Players here,but sorry when it isn`t so!
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Amen 🙏🏻
This will only keep aging better. THANK YOU for putting these side by side!
What an ego dumpster 🔥 looks next to a team centric, high character & building for sustained championships, regime.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell that you are in the good times, but we are in the good times with the lions right now, no doubt
A World Of Difference.. I was on board when Sheila took over.. I could tell she had the pulse of the city and fans. Loved ALL the hires. This is what I've been waiting for for 50yrs. Let's Fucking Go Boys. Detroit Vs Everybody
Thank you so much for posting this. That shows everything you need to know without showing much. Pictures (video clips) are worth a thousand words. Go LIONS!!!
Anyone else notice that Quinn had to "cue" the room to applaud?
It was TJ Hockenson, our most proven returning offensive skill position player for the Lions, and nobody looked like they gave a care that we were getting him. Like they chose him by accident. Quinn said, "We didn't speak to you on purpose because we liked you." What is that? Middle school philosophy? He sounded like he was lying through his teeth. Then Patricia unconvincingly says "We got the right guy." There was no conviction in anything they said.
It kinda felt like Quinntricia were deadset on getting their guy, but the rest of the room were adamant about going in a different direction. And by the time they were on the clock, everyone else in that room had been beaten into submission. So much so that they couldn't even pretend to be excited about it.
And the saddest thing is that Quinntricia weren't even convinced that it was the best pick. Sounds like Fatty P was still trying to convince himself that it was the right move like five minutes after the pick was turned in. I love Hock, but man this was brutal.
@@tristinmckinstry6467 Yeah it looked split with Quinntricia. Meanwhile it seemed like with Holmes and Campbell, they were all on the same page with getting Sewell.
@Tristan....That's how I read the room too. With as many roster holes they had tight end wasn't the right pick. They could have traded down and still gotten hockenson.
@dannyfittro7438 right?! We didn't talk much because we liked you? What a horribly obvious lie. These people truly had no clue what they were doing.
The Fords of the past couldn’t get out of their own way, thank god Sheila is in charge and Dan wanted the job.
Did you not see sheila in the war room with Patricia and Quinn as well? She's been a part of the organization for a while now. This narrative that she had nothing to do with hiring Patricia and Quinn and blaming it all on her 98 year old mother is comical
you really think that sheila had no involvement in the hiring process before 2020? She was sitting in the draft room right next to her 98 year old mother in the 2019 video. Her and Rod Wood were apart of the group that hired Patricia and Quinn so this whole narrative that she saved the team from her mother is comical. Also, remember that Martha reached out to well-respected GM Ernie Acorsi and he was the one who recommended the hiring of Quinn and Patricia so this idea that Martha didn't give a fuck when she hired a well-respected former GM to help with the hiring process (exactly what people are giving Sheila credit for with Chris Spielman) is in my opinion unfair to say that she didn't give give a fuck. Just my opinion. Sorry if I'm coming off strong lol
Sewell became the best right tackle (or left tackle if needed) in the league and a first ballot HOF as soon as his name came out of Roger Goodell's mouth.
And we got another Samoan lineman in the draft if he's even half as good it will work out
Hindsight is 20/20, I was one of the people really hoping the Quinn and Patricia era would work, but so happy we have Holmes and Campbell
Hats off to the owner they took a lot of heat with fans city staff and vets and changed it up to get a system that is building a identity to this team in the first time in 30 + yrs
I’m watching this post first playoff win in 30 years feeing so grateful for Brad and Dan. What the heck were all those pencil pushers doing in the room in 2019. If you ever wanted to know what negative energy looks like take a still photo of that. You could tell that Bill Bellicheck never Let anyone make a decision.
How do you think it made peneii feel to hear the coach and the GM in the background screaming with joy like little kids at the opportunity to have you on there team?!
Was waiting for Mrs. Ford to say "We are so excited to have you TJ, we needed a f**king beast at tight end"
The way Brad Holmes and Coach DC celebrate drafting players is what's setting the winning culture. This is what top-down culture looks like. Way to go Sheila for making this happen! I'm so excited for the coming season!! let's goooooo!!!! 🔥🔥
Matty p, was like " noooo, I want tavai at number 8"....
Lmao!
Thanks for your injection of professionalism Sheila. Lions were needlessly tight-lipped for decades and now they may have the slickest media group in the NFL. _One Pride_
Jaysus...watching the 2019 draft room made me uncomfortable and tense. Looked like an insanely uncomfortable environment.
I like how they keep it small and focused with the core team now. 2019 seems like a corporate board meeting for no good reasons
3:53 did fatty defensive guru Patricia just say "change to a basketball game?" Lmao what a joke of a coach
Holy fuck, during a draft. Dude was horrible I can’t say it’s surprising
Bob Quinn and Patricia look like the last type of people i would want to work for
He didn't say change to a bball game. He said there is one on a screen. He was lookin at it passed quinn.
WOW!!!!! WHAT A DIFFERENCE! This is why came back to my Lions!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
"Thank you so much for your cooperation" pretty much sums up the difference between then and now 😂
Thank god we got rid of Bob Quinn and Matt Patrica. What a difference in energy
Facts 💯
This is amazing to look at. After Holmes and Campbell took over for Quintricia (thank you Hamm!), see that there's no ties in that room? Top shirts mostly unbuttoned? Some actual emotion from the leaders? Words to the Sewell about just being who he is and playing like he has?
Changes take time, but you can see the seeds there.
Can we go now? Vs. I'm getting choked up watching this, it's so beautiful. The full passion of people who are destined to be champions.
This makes me happy. So glad this team is lead by these people. LFG!
Went from a room full of 80 idiots to a draft room with 10 people that know what they're doing.
Man, let it never be understated how lucky we are to now have a front office and coaching staff that care like these guys. The cultural shift has been nothing short of miraculous
This is great. Every Lion fan needs to see this. Forgetting the theatrics. The fact that Brad Holmes trd TJ for a better cheaper IA TE a couple of yrs later. It’s genius.
So much hungry energy with Holmes and Campbell! Embodiment of the entire city!!
Now, now let's be fair. Patricia was hungry too, just in a different way.
When Dan got on the phone and yelled “Big Man!!!” I knew things were about to change in Detroit
2019, “you want to be a lion?”
TJ “not really”
I literally had that exact thought. 😂 My mind’s eye (ear?) heard him say “eh, not particularly.” 😂😂😂
Probably wishes he could now, but he wouldn’t even be the starter 😆😆
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He was pretty angry when they traded him.
@@roems6396 Don't really blame him. He never asked for a move and wanted a new deal here.
Business is Business but I don't blame players for being salty in that scenario
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I don’t blame him either. I was just pointing out that he didn’t want to leave once he was here.
I don’t even know Brad Holmes. I’ve never met him, but I can tell you this much. I would run through a brick wall for that guy. I am beyond impressed with him.
Different emotions and energy
Did Bob Quin have to looked at the board to remember who he was picking?
😂 he panicked it looked like
Wow such a difference immediately
It’s incredible the difference the front office and coaches and GM can make. That 2019 draft room was all business but that 2021 was all desire to win and build.
2019 was so awkward. Got chills when Brad and DC told Peneii he was going to change the culture in Detroit. He sure did, and they did it too
Sheila would never wear sunglasses indoors.. Huge step up from her mother
This is awesome
The fire, determination, and energetic enthusiasm hasn't changed one bit since that first draft pick that Holmes and Campbell made. They know who they want, and they get them. Without any doubt, they believe in their guys.
Quinntrica had fear and hesitantancy in there pick. Even though Hock is a great player, there seemed to be still so much doubt and questioning in what they were doing.
Don’t miss that duo!!!!!
i mean when Patricia came here, pretty sure everyone was like “holy shit he’s gonna bring us to the promise land! he won a bunch of superbowls!” i don’t think anyone expected this shit show
thank you! Hiensight is always 2020 and people are quick to forget that he was the top head coaching candidate that year who every team wanted and that a lot of fans were excited when he was hired
At the time I felt it was a travesty to fire Caldwell, who had a solid record, and I had the impression Quinn was bringing just bringing in one of his cronies.
Ehhh not so sure about that given how many patriots assistants fared after leaving NE. When all that stupid stuff about sexual misconduct or whatever came out after they hired Patricia a lot of us reacted like holy crap we just fumbled the bag again
It's ALL about the building and valuing of relationships and Dan, Sheila and Brad are built like that.
You can’t write a thesis paper on how NOT to run a draft war room!! Thank you Shiela, Rod, and Chris for selecting Brad and Dan!! The culture has been set for years to come!!🙏 #1pride
Want to be a Lion?
Asked like he wasn't sure of the answer ...
Never trust anyone that combs their hair forward
this is a harsh flashback..kudos to Ms. Ford Hamp for hanging in there and seeing what is possible! #GoLions
I’m crying
Dan Campbell doesn't sound like Boomerhauer, but he talks like Boomhauer:
"You gonna change the culture for us, man. We are gonna build this thing around guys like you, ya hear me. You come in and play just like you been playin, man. You come in, you come in to compete, man. You be just as nasty and dirty as you've been and you're gonna help us turn this thing around. We gonna be winners, man."
"Wanna be a Lion"
Last thing anyone wants to hear
At the time yes. Surprised he didn't say "hell no"!
@@stevenlusk2125 How times have changed
Anyone else think Brad Holmes reminds them of Keagan Michael Key? Which honestly is ironic since Key's a Lions fan
With as many costumes and acting jobs he's done, who's to say that isn't Keegan impersonating holmes?
It all started at the top, Martha needed to let go of operations… big props to Shiela and Brad bringing this football program back to relevancy
The staff didn't believe in the T.J. Hockenson pick. Everybody bought into Penei
Nothing speaks more eloquently time!! 💯🎬🎬👍🏾👍🏾 #313GRIT #OnePride🦁
im so happy for dan campbell and the lions, i first noticed him when the lions kept losing close games and they lost that miracle game against the ravens with that kick from 66 yards, dan campbell got me with hes team talk after that loss, i thought wow, that is a proper coach that players will gravitate towards, if they give him the time the lions will be special was my thought, look at the lions now, they are the best team in the nfc, and they are going places.
so many extra suits in that draft room in 2019... yes i guess pre covid vs 2021 they had a little less people areound etc, but looked like 2019 they were doing things the wrng way on many different levels.
3:32 you could tell by the way they were looking at each other they hated the fact there was a camera in there lol. They wanted to say something but wouldn't because they're f*cking losers. As much as I despise those two, I'm grateful for them because we would have never had Sheila take over and hire Chris Spielman, BH and MCDC.
Its not even just the attitudes that have changed you look at the amount of people in Matt and Bob's war room vs Dan and Brad its insane. they cut down on like 75% of the people. I will never understand how it took Brad Holmes this long to get a GM Job.
Bob Quinn actually did a good job at drafting but firing Caldwell was the biggest mistake
Everything they said about Peneii came out to be the truest thing ever
At first, I didn't want to watch this garbage. But I'm glad you put this up here. Can't forget how bad it was. Make you appreciate this regime even more knowing that he built it from the studs up.
It’s honestly pretty apparent that the last GM and head coach didn’t give a shit about bringing winning football to the city of Detroit. No excitement about their pick. No one in that war room looked happy at all. This new regime is a fresh breath of air
That 2019 war room is riddled with Anxiety, haha
An excellent, and painful comparison. This should be shown in schools. A perfect example of a turnaround from the poorly run organization, full of insecure and incompetent people at the top, to the real team of genuine, confident and very well-prepared management. Everything starts at the top and we can now see the results. In 5 years from the laughing stock to the bona fide Superbowl contender. Lets' go Detroit 💪
That’s astonishing.
This is really great
I'd be more excited when a generational tackle drops to me too. Having said that, I kind of think Patricia was frustrated/not sure about the Hock pick.
Didn’t think I would tear up, dang it!! Drinking the koolaid again!!!! LFG!!!
You could hear people doing paperwork in Patricia's room. He's sitting at the front of the room like a teacher or something. I AM a teacher and my class is never THAT quiet. Damn.
That Mrs. Ham thumbs up to Patricia at 2:21 pretty much sums it up. She was not a believer in him..
2019 Co-workers
2021 FAMILY
Patricia looks so much more awful in real time after watching DC. Crazy how much different the energy is. The vibe. The idea. Nuts
2019 looked like a season 1 episode of the office...
Culture doesn’t mean something, culture means Everything!!!!!! The contrast is just insane……. I often wonder what Matt Patricia thinks about what’s going on now with the Detroit Lions.
Honestly, Patricia showed more emotion than anyone else in that room. He was a bad coach, but he seemed to actually have emotions out of everyone there. I wonder if Quinn/a few other guys overruled others on that pick.
A family culture compared to a culture of egos and excuses