Chopin - The 27 Études - Raoul Koczalski (1938)

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  • Frédéric Chopin (1810-1849)
    Études, Op. 10:
    00:00 I. Étude in C Major. Allegro
    01:59 II. Étude in A Minor. Allegro
    03:25 III. Étude in E Major. Lento ma non troppo
    07:02 IV. Étude in C-Sharp Minor. Presto
    09:13 V. Étude in G-Flat Major. Vivace
    10:48 VI. Étude in E-Flat Minor. Andante
    13:21 VII. Étude in C Major. Vivace
    14:55 VIII. Étude in F Major. Allegro
    17:30 Étude in F Minor. Allegro molto agitato
    19:18 X. Étude in A-Flat Major. Vivace assai
    21:37 XI. Étude in E-Flat Major. Allegretto
    23:48 XII. Étude in C Minor. Allegro con fuoco
    Études, Op. 25:
    26:28 I. Étude in A-Flat Major. Allegro sostenuto
    28:19 II. Étude in F Minor. Presto
    29:41 III. Étude in F Major. Allegro
    31:22 IV. Étude in A Minor. Agitato
    33:10 V. Étude in E Minor. Vivace
    36:18 VI. Étude in G-Sharp Minor. Allegro
    38:10 VII. Étude in C-Sharp Minor. Lento
    42:46 VIII. Étude in D-Flat Major. Vivace
    44:07 IX. Étude in G-Flat Major. Allegro assai
    45:08 X. Étude in B Minor. Allegro con fuoco
    49:13 XI. Étude in A Minor. Lento-allegro con brio
    52:36 XII. Étude in C Minor. Molto allegro con fuoco
    3 Nouvelles études:
    55:38 I. Allegretto in A-Flat Major
    57:05 II. Allegretto in D-Flat Major
    58:34 III. Andantino in F Minor
    Raoul Koczalski (1884-1948), piano
    Recorded for Deutsche Grammophon in the Polydor Studios, Berlin, 1938
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    That this recording of the complete Chopin Études is far from note-perfect is understandable when you realize that at that time, there was no way to precisely edit each individual piece. Also, with the exception of Opus 25/7, they were all recorded IN ONE SINGLE DAY. On that day - June 29, 1938 - Koczalski also recorded two of Chopin's Impromptus!
    It seems to me that when playing these Études, Koczalski's main objectives were not faultlessness, bravura or velocity. Instead, he chose to concentrate on tone production and variety of touch, always trying to bring out the poetic quality of the music, often giving it an improvisatory quality.
    The complete recordings of Raoul Koczalski (in two volumes) are still available at Marston Records, albeit in the form of CDR.
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  • @pianopera
    @pianopera  ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Interesting discussions here...I'll give my two-cents:
    I think that every generation so far has delivered great pianists. There is no decline in the quantity of talent, and in recent decades we see an increasing amount of pianists from Asia (or with an Asian background) who are brilliantly equipped. But as human beings, pianists are also inevitably the product of their time, influenced by "Zeitgeist" - as every generation and every period has different beliefs, priorities, preferences, aesthetics and ideas. So we see that great pianists living in the 21st century play very very differently from great pianists that lived 100 years ago. It's a bit pointless to say which pianist was "greater": above a certain level of excellence, comparisons lose their meaning. A lot also depends on personal taste.
    Personally, almost all my favourite pianists were born roughly between 1870 and 1915. It's not easy to explain why: to me it seems that at that period of time, many of them could profit from a felicitous set of tools and circumstances that enabled them to develop their talents in a certain way. It has to do with tradition, education, ideas, culture in general (and the more prominent place of classical music in western society), the quality of the instruments, a broad outlook, the patience to grow, individuality, creativity, craftsmanship and a constant search for emotional and spiritual depth. As different as they all are in their approach to music making, many of the pianists born in that period made recordings that for me are the most satisfying to listen to. And I was fortunate enough to have heard a handful of them in concert: Arrau, Perlemuter, Cherkassky, Bolet and Richter.

    • @noshirm6285
      @noshirm6285 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bravo, Erwin! Well stated. 👏🏻

    • @RabidCh
      @RabidCh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, exactly!

    • @jackatherton0111
      @jackatherton0111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree on the level of talent today. For me the biggest difference, for which pianists of the last hundred years can’t be blamed, is that those born closer to the time of the major 19th century composers played their music as music, as woodnotes wild and effusions from the heart rather than as museum pieces and masterpieces to be studied to death. Is this a know-nothing attitude? Listen
      on TH-cam thanks to generous souls like you to such natural players as Zofia Rabcewicz, Severin Eisenberger, Etelka Freund and many, many others. They sing, feel and share. Not easy for contemporary musicians to be so unselfconscious, in Chopin, Shakespeare or anyone from an earlier time. But it will always be worthwhile to hear how brilliant artists make geniuses their own. Just don’t claim they have a monopoly on authenticity (as you certainly don’t). Thanks, as always.

    • @formalising
      @formalising 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think you are very polite here towards nowadays pianists. "my favourite.....between 1870 and 1915" says it all........ :)

    • @sundayoliver3147
      @sundayoliver3147 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@jackatherton0111 I think a lot of that is the brutally competetive atmosphere of classical music - in training, the emphasis is on technique. A musician may reach a fairly advanced stage in their career without really knowing how to feel and interpret the piece in their own way., because if they do'n't have the technical chops, they will be beat out by someone who does, and their career will be in danger. Some manage to find their way through this, but the institution of classical music now demands this technical focus, it seems. I admire technique, but it's to serve the music, not the other way around. I have heard prominent musicians who were technically wonderful, but emotionally empty for me, at least.

  • @enrico0094
    @enrico0094 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just came across 4 of these Op 25 Etude recordings in a pile of old 78rpm records and played it without looking at the label...suddenly I realised how utterly revolutionary Chopin was. And what an interpretive master Koczalski was!

  • @bassonvolant7097
    @bassonvolant7097 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Un témoignage musical historique : l'interprétation de ces Etudes me semble en parfaite adéquation avec les témoignages sur l'enseignement de Chopin lui-même : finesse, fluidité, sens du phrasé en "coups d'archet" et, surtout, refus de ce brio tapageur dont Chopin avait une sainte horreur !

  • @alombredeslava2468
    @alombredeslava2468 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Difficile de ne pas parler d’amour dans cette magnifique démonstration de plaisir qui transparaît tout au long de son interprétation. Comment ne pas le partager, comment ne pas être emporté par cet élan si léger, si chaleureux, si spontané ?

  • @_PROCLUS
    @_PROCLUS ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Armand Georg Raoul von Koczalski 1884 -- 1948 born in Warsaw to a Polish noble family, pianist and composer. He started lessons with his mother, made his first public appearance in 1888 (aged 4), and was taken to play for Anton Rubinstein who foresaw his talent and potential. He then went on to have lessons from, amongst others, Karl Mikuli 1821 -- 1897 with whom Koczalski underwent intensive instruction for four summers from 1892 in Lwów. At the age of 7 he gave concerts and by the age of 9, Koczalski was playing in major European cities as a virtuoso, and aged 12, he gave his 1000th concert in Leipzig.
    Koczalski lived in France, Germany and Sweden, before returning to Poland after World War II, where he settled in Poznań, remaining active as a recitalist. Based in Germany during the 1920s and 1930s, he toured Italy, France and Poland as a highly esteemed interpreter of Chopin.
    During the war, his recordings were banned and he was forced to stay in Berlin without permission to perform, due to his Polish heritage. After the war, Koczalski was rehabilitated in both Germany and Poland, he took up professorship at the State Higher School of Music in Poznan in 1945
    The complete works of Chopin and the complete Beethoven Sonatas formed the core of Koczalski’s very extensive repertoire ...
    *******
    Mikuli (aka Bsdikian) born in Czerniowce (now Chernivtsi, Ukraine) to a Moldavian-Armenian family He studied under Frédéric Chopin for piano (later becoming his teaching assistant) and Anton Reicha for composition. He toured widely as a concert pianist, becoming Director of the Lviv Conservatory in 1858. He founded his own school there in 1888. He died in Lemberg (now Lviv, Ukraine)

  • @ThePianoFiles
    @ThePianoFiles ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wonderful!

  • @jinwoobae7555
    @jinwoobae7555 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    True artist..

  • @77orchidjim
    @77orchidjim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is such a refreshing interpretation!

  • @kpokpojiji
    @kpokpojiji 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Magnificent recordings. Thanks so much for posting this!

  • @_PROCLUS
    @_PROCLUS ปีที่แล้ว +9

    💝💝💝 Thanks a lot, Erwin for the wonderful and rare upload ... One of the greatest pianists of all time .... TY

  • @paoloherlitzka5127
    @paoloherlitzka5127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how someone could say Koczalski doesn’t play fast, when needed. It’s the first time I have the chance to listen to him although I knew him from my father and in my opinion Chopin couldn’t be played better, together with Cortot and some few others among whom I include the young Alexander Gadjiev who is the direct heir of this extraordinary school…
    Thank you for sharing this wonderful performance!!

  • @Schubertd960
    @Schubertd960 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the texturing of the last etude. It's like there's an actual landscape with demarcations. A jagged, wild ocean, and a soaring stentorian melody.

  • @correasilvio2010
    @correasilvio2010 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful técnic!

  • @titicatfollies6615
    @titicatfollies6615 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh I like this! People usually like to pound the first etude to death.
    What a happy discovery! I have never heard of this man. This makes my day beautiful.

  • @falamimire
    @falamimire ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this very rare recording from the golden era!A pity the tone is slightly overpitched.

  • @sammcbride2149
    @sammcbride2149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It doesn't feel rushed which is a positive. So much classical playing today feels rushed.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    26:30 flying beauty ...........

  • @noshirm6285
    @noshirm6285 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I shall listen to these right away, Erwin. 🤗 Is de piano misschien een Pleyel? Why on earth was Koczalski expected to record the Études in just one day? Hofmann himself said there was no pianist who could do equal justice to these pieces! Horowitz and Rubinstein never recorded the complete set, and Horowitz said ALL the Études were difficult - especially the ones in double notes. 😳 Koczalski must have been exhausted at the end of that day in 1938.

    • @tobiolopainto
      @tobiolopainto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many pianists play them in one concert. I saw Novaes in the mid 60s and they formed the first half of the program. She came out after and played Beethoven's Waldstein and other music. She obviously wasn't tired. Backhaus recorded them in 1 day and no doubt played them as half of a program. Youri Egerov played them all at once, so did Cortot and others. If a pianist is in good shape and can play anything without too much pain, then there's no reason why he/she would be tired afterwards.

    • @noshirm6285
      @noshirm6285 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tobiolopainto Good points! I recall hearing Ruth Slenczynska play the Op. 10 in concert, followed by the 4 Ballades. Amazing lady.

  • @paulcapaccio9905
    @paulcapaccio9905 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m on atoll here. Everybody played differently with their own unique sense of rubato and tempi ! Today everyone sounds the same. No soul. No suffering in the music. It becomes all about ME. look at me at what I can do. This era was surely the bestb

  • @paulcapaccio9905
    @paulcapaccio9905 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This pianist wouldn’t gotten past the first round of any major competition. That is a telling statement! No wonder classical music is dead . This is how Chopin would have played We need more performers like him

    • @findelka1810
      @findelka1810 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Probably even Chopin himself wouldn’t have gotten far in a competition of our time. And that’s not his fault, but ours.

    • @paulcapaccio9905
      @paulcapaccio9905 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@findelka1810 you are so right. We have no concept of chest music should be like. It’s now the Olympics of the keyboards

    • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
      @Fritz_Maisenbacher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our time is shit.
      And the people of our time are shit.
      In one word, an horrible semantic contraction which resumes the whole situation.

    • @borninparis
      @borninparis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how wonderful classical elitists like you are only still breathing to post inane comments on TH-cam. To millions of people around the world, classical music is central to their world, and their life, but you would not know it, too busy are you belittling them with "higher than you" judgments

    • @bartoldo5898
      @bartoldo5898 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Based on what ? He plays them all perfectly lol, anyone who plays like this would win by today standards too no doubt

  • @RModillo
    @RModillo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arthur Rubinstein had a tart observation: "A former child prodigy who was covered with medals when he was six, some of them hanging on his little bottom; he lived in Germany and had developed into a very bad pianist." It would be interesting if he was responding to artistic differences, the dropped notes, or RK's residence in Germany. (He obviously made it through the Holocaust and returned to Poland. Do we know how he spent the War?)

  • @paulprocopolis
    @paulprocopolis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I much enjoyed the musical, and elegant playing here and the touch is most refined, but sometimes (e.g. the octave study, left hand passagework in 'Winter Wind') I would have liked more power and brilliance, as well as more pedal resonance. However, to get all this recorded in a day is a major achievement. I wonder why it was necessary to do this ... ?

  • @ADGO
    @ADGO ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love your uploads but the number of commenters here who say that piano playing is dead is just ridiculous. It's like they don't listen to anything other than competitions or commercial releases. The art of piano playing is just fine thanks.

    • @bodikins
      @bodikins ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much has been lost. Most of this 19th-century art anyway

    • @ADGO
      @ADGO ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bodikins Ok but much has been gained too. There hasn't been artistry like Sokolov, Pletnev, Gekic, Volodos, Brand or many others before. Sorry but this 'lost' sentiment is too ostrich-like.

    • @bodikins
      @bodikins ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ADGO They're just inferior versions of Rachmaninoff, Hofmann, von Sauer, Rosenthal, Lipatti, even Bolet

    • @ADGO
      @ADGO ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bodikins You're arguing opinion. That's not a problem. It's the obnoxious statement that piano-playing-has-been-lost that is the problem.

    • @bodikins
      @bodikins ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ADGO The deeper you delve into these matters (it helps to actually have a connection to the 19th century and do 25 years of research), the less it turns out to be about mere taste or "opinion"

  • @pablobear4241
    @pablobear4241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you know any other great recordings of op 10 no 10? I enjoyed this one a good bit, but I haven’t found the ‘opium’ quite yet.
    Also that op 25 6 LH!! Big line big musician

    • @OzanFabienGuvener
      @OzanFabienGuvener ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you try Ignace Tiegerman or Ruth Slenczynska?

    • @pablobear4241
      @pablobear4241 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OzanFabienGuvener Both are great and valid, I find my top ones to be.
      Cziffra, Cortot, and Richter as of now.
      I think it has much more potential then these performances though this piece, it's so joyful.

    • @pablobear4241
      @pablobear4241 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OzanFabienGuvener Also, what do you think of the pianist Vitaly Margulis Chopin and playing in general?
      I think his op 10 2 is one of best I've heard, his Bach is also great.
      I do though somewhat find an issue he kind of play everything the same with sparing pedal, but, it's a great style that I respect.

    • @gregorypalmer5403
      @gregorypalmer5403 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adam Haraciewicsz, Phillips " World Series" LP, late 1960s.

    • @gregorypalmer5403
      @gregorypalmer5403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pablobear4241 Cziffra's is perverse in places, but riveting.

  • @polinalipp6139
    @polinalipp6139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Филигранно божественно легко, искрятся шестнадцатые как блики солнца в холодной воде моря!

  • @Piflaser
    @Piflaser 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me, the best Chopin player ever. He plays with virtuosity but with seriousness too. Like Arrau. He is not the fickle virtuoso who represents himself and not Chopin.

  • @christopherczajasager9030
    @christopherczajasager9030 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Life long companions...for pianists, the Etudes of Chopin....in attended recitals I heard Novaes play the Opus 10 at Town Hall, Ashkenazy at Carnegie Hall, at the yearly Josef Lhévinne birthday remembrance at Josef Raieff, Lhévinne's recordings of various specialities of his😊.....the Opus 10 nr.11, and in Opus 25, the g sharp minor, the octave, in B minor and " Winter Wind"....At my own recitals I played the Opus 10 no.10, nr.3 and nr.4.

  • @wielandhartwich3184
    @wielandhartwich3184 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome everybody to the true world of Chopin‘s music. ‚Facilement, facilement‘ (Chopin).

  • @tryharder8614
    @tryharder8614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe you've got the Trois Nouvelles Études in the wrong order.

  • @paulcapaccio9905
    @paulcapaccio9905 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The golden age of piano is long gone. Nobody makes music like this anymore. Women play in cocktail dresses and high heels. No respect for the music. Instead of approaching these etudes as pieces of music they performing them as technical stunts. Who can play the fastest becomes the rule. After Arthur Rubinstein died it all came to a crashing end. I studied at Juilliard for 7 years I know what I’m talking about . No more true rubato today only strict observance to the musical score . Listen only to the pianists of the distant past to understand music. Stay away from the speed freaks

    • @mikonatt
      @mikonatt ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, could you give me some names? Because I'm curious to hear them!. Thanks in advance!

    • @osmancanizin4423
      @osmancanizin4423 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree with you. Maybe there are still some good musicians but not many. Most pianists are copies of each other and copying the bad thing.

    • @falamimire
      @falamimire ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikonatt Well for a start you can view the vids that PIANOOPERA(the uploader) has put online-terrific.

    • @morinoroba
      @morinoroba ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. I never listened to Koczalski live, but still one can hear beautiful and tasteful rubato, phrasing, tones, sense of rhythm etc through the recording. And which I hardly hear in recordings by living pianists. Maybe the whole circumstances around humans in our time should change to get the golden age of piano back, the culture of piano playing is still alive in our time but the civilization which gave birth and grew up the golden age of piano has died.

    • @paulcapaccio9905
      @paulcapaccio9905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@morinoroba you stated that so well. I give you a bravo ! Great insight

  • @wielandhartwich3184
    @wielandhartwich3184 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome everybody to the true world of Chopin‘s music. ‚Facilement, facilement‘ (Chopin).