Nutritionist Reacts To Brutal MMA Weight Cuts
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Excellent video. You might want to ckeck out how are the regulations for weight cuts in ONE FC. Their protocols are much better than others, I think. Much safer for the fighters
Great analyses! You're very well spoken!
@@grapewalnut7969 thanks mate 👍
@@Space00Cowboy ONE are definitely doing some notable things with their weight cutting monitoring. I’d be really interested to see some of their data and see how they are standardising testing across fighters. I’ll have to do some more research into it. Thanks for the heads up 👌
I've subbed to you in the hopes of seeing longer videos on the topic of weight cutting in MMA. I'm also interested to know whether having bigger muscles, like a Michael Chandler, is actually beneficial in terms of power, especially in terms of striking power, as opposed to a Charles Oliveira or a Conor. If Chandler trained his straight to be as clean as those two, could he feasibly have more effect in his straight than them? Or are there other factors than muscle size that are more important?
What a great guy, glad you bought in a Nutritionist who is actually into MMA instead of some random nutritionist, he knew about everything in the video, ans he also talks really well, can definitely bring him back for more
never tought someone could see so clearly what a bad weight cut is
very interesting
Wouldnt any Nutritionist say the same things, its not a job you just get lmao, you need a degree you knob 😂
And 239 people were dumb enough to like this comment 😅😂
@@TheTrueEmrys the guy really is a nutritionist(check), he actually does remember the events he's talking about as opposed to someone who's just watching video(check), and he was well spoken(check). Every thing in his comment checks out so I feel like either you have reading issues or...well idk what but I'm fairly confident you're the dumb one.
@@TheTrueEmrys would you care to explain why?
The way I normally tell, if someone has been through a bad weight cut,without even looking at their frame, is looking at their eyes, if it's been OK their eyes are normal or aren't that bad, if it's bad their eyes look completely drained and almost a different colour, now I'm no expert just a fan, awesome work as always.
Along with the extreme bags under said eyes, big tell!
Or sunk in eyes
I mean extreme dehydration can make you temporarily blind even, so if they look out of it in their eyes it could be an actual indicator of a hard weight cut
protruding cheek bones too
U can pay for comments now? Capitalism gone crazy
Y'all do a great job getting experts in different areas that are also well informed MMA fans. It's awesome having someone who knows a lot about their field but also the personalities and backgrounds of the fighters they are talking about. Great stuff
Adding more divisions would water down the overall strength of the roster and making more titles would damage the importance of each one, much like in boxing. I think ONE has it pat down in their way of making weight classes about keeping the athlete healthy and safe, instead of having them cut a ridiculous amount of weight.
That makes no sense.
Why do UFC have 170 while the rest are on 25/35/45/55/70/85
Make it make sense. Why don’t they move 170 to 75 and add in 165.
165 can be another most watched division, same for the new 175 and 155.
It’s not going to water down the overall strength of the roster.
Boxing divisions are just retarded at that point. But adding 1 more division and all of a sudden you’re being overdramatic. Smh
they shouldn't add weight classes every few pounds like boxing, but they could surely use something between 170 and 185, and maybe something between 205 and heavyweight. Some guys are barely over being able to reach light heavyweight and they have to compete against the huge guys who have to cut to 265
@@ShoahBiz 155 to 170 is dumb too
They need to add a 165 division move 170 to 175, add a 195 division and a 225 division
@@ShoahBiz 225 class would be awesome huge but in shape killers
I’ve got a degree in nutrition science, and this is great to watch. Really appreciated the nutritionist talking about socioeconomic background, and food insecurity when it comes to resources to have a nutritionally adequate diet to make weight in a safe way. I wish we could somehow get rid of cutting weight by dehydration. So much more emphasis should be put on following a nutritionally adequate diet through fight camp to lose the weight, or you need to move up in weight class. Like, be forced to move up.
Really impressed by Tom's compassion for the fighters - Great stuff.
The UFC needs to move 170 to 175 and then add in 165 between 155 and 175.
It makes so much sense. 165 can be another most watched division, another killer division with 155 and 175.
TJ's weight cut was CRAZY!!!! He looked like a literal skeleton.
He was only able to do it with steroids
@@Assomy10 steroids would it make it harder tbh.
@@policies8534 well that’s not true. PEDs can help you cut weight and that’s why TJ used them
A lot what Pillashaw does is not right, sir, you're spot on! 💀
Why is Nolly from Periphery in your video?
Man Oliveira was dehydrated to the bones, I mean, you can see his skull through his skin
I would actually “like” to do a training camp and a weight cut just to appreciate the graft that goes in.
i think if they just increased the minimum weight requirement for all the weight classes like one championship this wouldn’t be as much of an issue
One Fighting Championship - hydration testing = problem solved. You miss your hydration test, you’re pulled from the fight. Happened two weeks ago with Rodtang Jitmuangnon. He missed his hydration test so he was replaced by pnpayak jitmuangnon, who brutally knocked out Savvas Michael on hours notice.
Tom's a legend, awesome!
I like this guys knowledge of the game
ONE FC has hydration tests before fights since so many fighters would collapse or be on the brink of death on the weighins. Almost everyone is at their natural weight.
They definitely don't need more weight classes they have like 12 weight classes they need to make sure they are at an optimal weight before taking on a fight in the first place.
this was a really interesting interview and discussion about the sport, but i do think this weight cutting is only going to get worse. This will be due to fighters wanting to dominate multiple weight classes as they progress through their careers. the whole Connor McGregor one was an ego thing, where he had to prove he can be dominant in 2 weight classes.
Weight-ins should be just before the fight ao you fight at the weight you weight.
That would change everything.
some people would still need to cut weight
Also see the award winning doc #WarriorSpirit about extreme weight cutting in the #UFC 🚨 th-cam.com/video/OD1wa-NX6DI/w-d-xo.html
Weight cutting should be done with a hydration test, like one fc. It's not perfect but it does ensure fighters aren't dehydrating to make weight.
I think the ufc would have even better fights if they cut weight cuts.
One Championship does hydration test and their fights are a lot more action packed then the UFC. The UFC are just better at pulling numbers and having stars
The UFC needs hydration tests
Agree 100%. Too bad the UFC isn't worried about ethics.
and it was really fucked up what they did to Cyborg....like mad her go down to 140 for absolutely no reason
Year round drug tests… year round weigh ins… just move all the weight classes up 10-15 lbs and make a maximum weight cap for off season… seems so simple to make sure people can’t do this.
Only allowed to cut a certain percentage of weight before a fight. USADA should be including this for every damn drug test. Test every month.
Regardless, there will always be taller people in their division for that height length advantage.
That’s the way it is
One thing that ever single person who thinks Yoel Romero is on a ton of PEDs fail to consider is that he hasn't moved up in weight since he began his international amateur freestyle wrestling career at age 18!!
You'd think if he was on a bunch of steroids and HGH, he'd be at least a light heavyweight by now
Casual fan question here - why doesn't the UFC weigh the fighters right before the fight? That way they're forced to fight at their natural weight?
great video
Why not just you know stay at the weight you fight at instead of cutting? I mean when i wrestled i weighed 155 and just stayed there
Do you need it explained to you?
The weight cuts are ridiculous to be honest, these guys shrink down for the scales and then hyrdate back up to their natural weight and go into the fight heavier than they what they weighed in at. It makes no sense and is a detriment to fighter performance.
The fact that fighters jump between divisions and collect belts is unfair competition, that a naturally bigger fighter can scale down to a smaller fighters division and run a mock of the division.
If you're missing weight, you're in the wrong division. One championship has the right idea with hydration tests, fighters competing at their natural walk aorund weight.
it makes a lot of sense. if you're bigger you're stronger and more powerfull
One Championship has it figured out.
do they tho?
Lmao.. why did he call him Charlie olives
Dana Whitehead, and we will pay you In full only if you win. Spends 2 million dollars on a blackjack hand 2 hrs later
You look like a bald Ryan Reynolds
Final weigh in on fight day. Have the same weigh in a week prior. If the fighter doesn't make weight the first time than a replacement is scheduled and if they fail to make weight a second time the other fighter can choose to fight someone who weighed in correctly.
That would not work
Some of these are really truly heinous acts of immoral coaching. Some are truly amazing frats or nutrition and science. I wish we could isolate the latter more Soo.
Fighters really need to read dolce's book, or just consult him. cutting weight, and mainly sweating is a very regulated thing, and allot of these guys are going too hot, way to hot in some cases
Didn't he lose all his credibility a few years ago? I forgot what instance exactly but I think during a BJ Penn camp didn't go well and everyone started criticizing him and he doesn't consult fighters anymore
@@alo4912 well ya, the dudes is a steroid junkie, but his weight cutting science is pretty credible still. the main thing that is def a science, is not overheating your body, over x temperature, i cant remember the max temp, 108 or something, maybe not even close to that, but getting to hot an ur body starts to shut down its sweating. hes one of the first guys to bring in the importance of water loading into mma. he def wasnt the only one,, ,many ppl did it, but he brought it to many fighters attention that werent wrestlers. i dont remember much about his diet protocol, but quite a few fighters do the same thing. he stressed not doing keto diets, an bla bla. penn n hendrix got bent at him for sure, but bj was always a poor loser, an hendrix was a fat boy, n missed weight in his fights after dolce, so it was like heh, was he that much a fraud?? i dont think he was a fraud, all this happened like in 2016 i think, but i think the main issue with him was he charged allot for what he did. i dont remember, but i always remembered the temp thing, n it seemed legit. i cut weight in highschool wrestling, but i never went hardcore, i just ate very little for many months, n ran a few miles in a sweat suit the day before wrestling, with no water lol. def didnt do what dolce recommends, so i cant attest to how or if its legit, but it makes sense
All the reason I absolutely hate Khamzat now. Was a huge fan before, but not anymore
There is a simple fix.. Scales just before you set foot in the cage miss weight loose 50% of your pay problem solved
This weight cut stuff has got to stop. Enough is enough
Its why ONE is way better.
I mean no weight cuts are right, good for you or ethically okay
These guys will go through hell damn near kill themselves trying to make a certain weight and then gain 10-20 lbs back before the actual fight. So wtf is really the point?
Recently Islam makachev fight with volk..you can see the affect of weight cutting on islam..that dude was half the size of his original self and barely manage to win the fight.
Really surprised you didn’t spend more time on Paddy
doesn't help most of these guys are fighting at weights they shouldn't be fighting at.....guy walks around a natural 180 and is cutting weight to make a lower weight class.....just fucking fight within your means....If two guys want to fight that are different weight classes why is there not just some special contract you have them both sign that allows them to fight at their respective weight class....(i understand if it's for a specific title i more so mean for "superfights" if you will"
then they'll be smaller than their opponents
no James Sandman Irvine.....probably the worst I've seen in the ufc....dude looked like he was dying for real....started off as heavy weight...went to 205 and was jacked and shredded there....went down to 185 he made it but...probably almost died...and really didn't make any sense bc he got ko'd by Anderson in like 30 seconds at 205...who of course was the 185 champ
This guy better have a lab coat on when I turn my head back to my phone if he says glycogen again. Would you look at that no lab coat. Lmfaooo
Weight cutting is an inheritance from wrestling, it is an unhealthy aspect of both wrestling, boxing and MMA. Weight cutting should be regulated, a person that walks around at over 200 pounds in day to day life should have no place in the lightweight division. IMO, extreme weight cutting is gaining an advantage by artificial means and is cheating.
@Philosophy_First I did not say it is breaking the rules, my opinion is that it is gaining an advantage by artificial means and therefore should be considered as cheating.
@@2secondslater that’s not cheating. If you can make the weight it’s all good. And cutting large amounts of weight doesn’t give you an ungodly advantage like you think it does
11:26 Conor's still suffering from injuries he got while competing at 145. The man chased greatness, attained it, and physically paid the priced.
That acting comment was uncalled for with romero. He was suffering
They can stop it they need to follow one championship
bald ryan gosling.
"45 minutes in a sauna is a long time" Me a finnish person "sounds like a regular saturday afternoon"
and yes I understand that he was dehydrating himself just a joke
Have fighters weigh in 30 minutes before the fight, would eliminate much of this.
It wouldn’t. You’d just have different issues
the word ethical was used way to much in this video
This will never change until we have a tragedy
Effin weight bullies, everybody should look up to guys like Stipe/Izzy
@Philosophy_First unfortunately, the fighter that it happened to hasn't been well known enough
@Philosophy_First Yes, you are correct, but the fighters are still killing themselves unnecessarily, so who is the real winner here? 😁
Just ban weight cuts bro
u fr rn?
I used to love UFC. Now I see it for what it is and I'm quite upset to have supported it. It's dysmorphia. Dana White is probably not going to go down as like, a uh, super good dude. Let's just be real. Let's total the numbers.
Weight cuts need to be banned .. so bad for you , imagine completely dehydrating your brain which takes several days to heal, instead fighting 24 hours later …
Why don't fighter's try and stay at fighting weight year around?
Really top video this, makes a huge difference that he is an MMA fan
Still dont know how tibau ever made 155 at all
walking around at 225 as a lightweight is fckin mental honestly
Easy dude was just off his cycle
@@daboy5256 still mental lol
I started training in MMA in NYC, I'm 116 pounds. They wanted me to gain weight to 125 and then cut down back to 115. I'm like why? I'm already 116 to 112, I don't need to gain any weight. I left the gym, I'm not going to mess up my body like that. Fight in your body's natural weight class.
yeah my coach did the same to me in BJJ, it was so dumb, especially as a beginner its pointless
The thing i think is so strange is that you have to make weight at say 155 days before the fight. But then after you can basically drink and eat as much as you want when you fight. Shouldn't your weight be then 155 at the fight.
I hated weight cutting So much that I instead went heavyweight, weighing a whopping 193 in a 265 lb class )before Ca implemented a 182, 195 and 220 lb weight class), and it was so much better not being hungry and having no energy
Always amazed that weight cutting hasn't killed someone in the UFC. Only a matter of time.
Yang Jian Bing died at 21 years old in 2015 from weight cutting for ONE Championship, its only a matter of time before it happens in the UFC aswell, its absolutely disgusting that there arent more precautions and checks for fighter health in MMA
@@drozzo3211 yeah given how many high profile cases of fighters pulling out because of a bad weight cut I have to think youre right
I like this one. The guy sounds like he knows a lot about his field (nutritionist) AND he knows mma (ufc) fighters and their stories
Great insight to see and knowledge to have; Thank you Tom!
How Gleison Tibau managed to make 155lbs (70kg) is still beyond me. The man was jacked.
I think having more weight classes and less drastic differences between the weights would help. But I firmly believe that your fighting weight class should be determined by an an average of your weight in the past 12 months.
Have the testing for that month’s weight be randomized so they can’t just deplete themselves all month and get a lower weight or craziness.
Sure it’d mean athletes need to stay in fighting shape but these people are professional athletes doing this for a career. It would also be closer to what someone’s walking around weight is.
That's an interesting way to look at it , I like that idea
do you think it would end up like boxing where 1 person would dominate 3 or 4 wieght classes
@@brandonbragg6670 maybe. There has to be a better middle ground. But honestly I think athletes should be the best for their size, not the best at depleting themselves and fighting afterwards.
That’s just another difference between athletes and warriors
I just think the weigh in has to happen right before the fight. If its like half an hour before the fight there would be no way we would see these kinds of extreme cuts cause no one would want to fight in that state.
Moving up a weight class has benefitted some fighters in their careers. Nathaniel Wood is a great example of a guy that had hard cuts to Bantamweight and has since picked up 2 wins at FW. And of course Darren Till, albeit he has had only 1 win at Middleweight he still isn't killing himself to make WW anymore.
Rob Whittaker was 2-2 at WW I believe and then went like 8-0 at middleweight and has only lost to the champ since.
Darren is like 1-3 in middleweight
someone already mentioned ol Bobby Knuckles, but Gilbert Burns is another that quickly comes to mind
@@jonanik3091 gave everyone he fought in middleweight a challenge and only fought the best
@@niallfinan and where is he now? His prime ended to woodley. Never been the same since
That analysis of Johnny Hendricks was so spot on
This video was excellent! Love hearing the medical side of these events(especially those tough weight cuts)
I think the right step would be to weigh fighters on fight day so that everyone knows how heavy they are going into actual competition. It factors into almost every fight analysis but it's a number we can only speculate on. I think there would be an outcry if we could see exactly how much fighters cut or how much a fighter outweighs their opponent and the ufc would have to make rules to ensure the safety of their fighters. For example, your fighting weight can't be more than 15 pounds your cutting weight
@E why not?
@@vertabun427 cause then wrestlers would be shit outa luck. They’re only good because of cutting weight
Because people would still cut weight but they would have to go in completely drained and dehydrated putting them at greater risk
that would just extend the cut. If fighters were weighed on fight day they would cut weight to make that 15 pound limit.
It wouldn’t work the way you think it’d work
My Father was a professional heavyweight wrestler here in Germany and he once told me about the story where a guy was half a kilogramm over his limit so they drained him of half a liter of blood which I find to be for one very high commitment and also pretty stupid if youre gonna fight 1-2 hours later.
That is insane
That never happened' you heard it when paddy was on tysons hotboxing
What was the Name of your father?
Hes full of shit never believe people in the comment sections or you might have to believe me when I say elon musk stabbed my mum
@@paulsmyth3580 so many people on TH-cam are outright compulsive liars
Why not have weigh ins every month or 2? If a fighter varies >20% (or whatever number) they can't fight
Why don't they just have 150 to 160lb, 160-170lb, 170-180lb categories?. As opposed to you have to be exactly this weight to the pound?. Then guys could fight at their natural healthiest weight. If a fighter is in their prime fighting condition at 164 pounds, why should they lose 9 pounds or gain 6 to make weight?. Its so dumb and one of the things I hate about UFC.
If you just fight at your natural weight and dont be a weightbully , you wont have this problems
The answer is easy. All fighters in a weight class have to ALWAYS be weighed randomly (under testing - like USADA). So that their walking around weight is just a small percentage above their fighting weight. Now, I know this will not happen - but it is the answer regardless. And it would be fair as all fighters in a weight class will weigh about the same.
I wrestled for a long time and the process of cutting weight in my opinion is almost a ritual, it's like a test of your will to win and when you've put yourself though a weight cut losing isn't an option.
They should do hydration tests fight week to make sure somebody does this….why have two guys both cut 10 lbs of water when they could just weigh in 10 lbs heavier lol
the ufc fooked charlie....bs to even mention
Max Holloway had a pretty bad weight cut, when Bisping was interviewing him.
Oh yeah that looked horrible. He spoke and acted like he'd had an concussion or he was drunk.
Weight cutting is such a bizarre thing but I don’t think there is anyway to stop it completely. People will always try to gain the upper hand by any means necessary.
pre fight weigh ins stops it
@@minedgravy380 true
Yo this was mad funny post something like this on tiktok with a little cleaner edits it’ll go viral 100%
I'm so happy Darren Till moved up to middleweight. That weight cut to 170 was scary
Just so you no they do the official weight in behind the scenes on a digital scale only do it on the old school scale for the photos
I would say a solution could be to weigh in right before the fight. If the weigh in would take place say an hour before the fight we wouldnt be sseing things like this i think cause there would be no way the fighter would be ready to fight an hour later.
some people would still need to cut weight tho
its crazy to me that Yoel is 45 years old and still has the passion to want to chase a belt at 185
I don't get why they just don't weigh them 20s before they walk into the cage.
No Aspen Ladd?!
Crazy how you show TJ Dillashaw when I literally seen this man take PEDs with my own eyes everyone called me crazy then he gets popped for it! Look who's crazy now!
You gave it too him?
This was awesome.
Love the respect he gave to Oliviera.
ONE Fighting. Weigh in hydration tests. If you can't make weight while hydrated then you shouldn't be fighting at that weight class. Extreme weight cutting is stupid and unnecessary. If both these guys walk around at 195 and have to cut to 180, then just let them fight at 195.
This is a very unpopular opinion, but for me most of all the fighters that are cutting weight are straigth up cheaters. That's not their weight and they just want to have that bully weight advantage instead of the skills. For me the status of GOAT's goes for those who fought at their natural weight like GSP, Anderson Silva, Demetrious Johnson, they didn't cut that much weight for their fights and that shows they don't need that weight advantage, they focus on their skills. I think making more weight classes could help.
There’s no way digital scales are more accurate! That’s like saying a PSI gauge is better off digital which is very wrong. The ufc uses probably one of the more accurate scales
Solution hurts the promoter. Second weigh in right before the fight. 5lb max increase. No one would consider fighting while depleted. But that opens up cancelled fights. There is also the appeal of how strong a 155 pound fighter looks when he walks out to the cage weighing 175. The solution is simple, but if the promotion has to choose what’s best for the fighter vs what’s best for the promotion, fighters are going second.
Weight cutting should be regulated, it not only endangers the fighters but it degrades the performance that us as the spectators expect. It should be a very small percentage of your body weight like 10 lb if you're a 185