Avanti customer service is impeccable. I had a cat with me and it was full service so they upgraded us to first class so we had less stimulate for my cat. G
Epic trip, quite a journey. Deserves many likes and comments, just for spending 13 and a half hours on a Voyager!! Fantastic work, well done, great channel 🚂😊
Great trip report! I wouldn’t fancy 13.5 hours with that seating. I traveled 14 hours on Amtrak but they have big seats and you could kick your legs out and not touch the seat in front!
I’m a member at the Starcross Yacht Club you pass at 31:22, one of the great joys of being out on the water is when the steam train thunders down the same track. If you’re very lucky you can sometimes also have the twin seat Spitfire taking passengers out and around in the area.
Fascinating, and well done for enduring such a long trip on a Voyager! My first trip on this Cross Country journey was back in 1989 when, at that point in its history, it ran only between Penzance and Edinburgh. I did the reverse to your trip. Getting to Penzance was a feat in itself from the Lincolnshire Coast, meant I set out the previous evening via Grantham and the ECML, and a hair raising ride in a black cab from King's Cross to Paddington. Here I took the Night Riviera, although in seated accomodation, to Penzance. "The Cornishman", as it was then called, was ex Penzance at 0923. I was lucky as this was an HST set at this time. Even so, very busy throughout. A few fun and games as a passenger beside me had something in the luggage rack leaking vinegar which proceeded to drip on the table until I managed to get a member of staff to sort it. Also got diverted at Newcastle via Carlisle. Outskirts of Edinburgh, one of the local Ned's in the outskirts decided to take pot shots with an air rifle, shattering the window where I had recently moved from. Very late into Edinburgh and a sprint up the stairs to get to St Andrew Sq bus station just managing to get the last coach to Perth! Years later I would also do the longest National Express route 336 from Edinburgh to Penzance, an epic overnight trip that didn't reach Penzance until teatime the following day. Think even a Voyager would be better 🤣 Did you stop at the Station Hotel in Aberdeen? I did this on another trip years later. Although it had bad reviews, I really enjoyed it, even though some of the furnishings in the room looked almost antiques!
I used to take a previous incarnation of this route back in the early 90s. In my teens the family lived in Aberdeenshire. Parents still do. They have a holiday cottage in SW Cornwall, and I took the train rather than the back of the car crammed full of luggage, dog and sister. It was an HST running to Edinburgh, then across to the west coast line through Carlisle and on to Birmingham where it was much the same to Penzance. Not to expensive with a young person's railcard, and ridiculously cheap once you claimed your refund for the inevitable delays.
What an outstanding video and a great commentary! Getting all those facts and information in at the right places must have been no easy undertaking and I really appreciate the effort. I aspire to take this trip one day in 2023. Thank you and safe travels!🚅
Wow, that was indeed an epic trip. Thanks for the video. I'm in the US, and wish we had more and better passenger train service here. I've traveled around the UK with a BritRail pass, and want to do that again. My longest UK train journey was from York to Penzance - in first class, about six years ago. It was comfortable - and memorable thanks to the guy across the aisle who drank too many bottles of wine along the way, and kept getting more impaired with each one. Fortunately for him he was traveling with his very well-behaved dog. I enjoyed interacting with the dog. 😂
They don't have the supercomfy British Rail armchair-style seats though - Operating companies took them out and replaced them with very similar seats to the Avanti/,cross country Standard class. Horrible . At least you can open the window on the slam-doors in the vestibules.
Great video, Cadburys at Bournville is actually an operational factory, they make dairy milk and some of the other ‘block’ type chocolate there. As you walk round the factory you can smell the molten chocolate in production, sometimes depending on the wind you can smell it from the station. Cadbury world is on the back of the factory and part of the ‘tour’ goes through some of the production facility.
An outstanding video and informative commentary, so thank you! I have been on CrossRail from Derby to Truro, and the 4-coach train was overcrowded for most of the journey. Still the best way to get to Devon and Cornwall!
The structure you see across the River Plym is an 18th century grotto carved into rock above the Saltram Amphitheatre, in the grounds of Saltram House, which is a National Trust property. I think there are worries about the safety of the surrounding rock, so am not sure how close you can get to it these days.
Great Video As a photographer may I suggest you try a polarising filter as this will remove most of the window reflections when shooting from inside the carriage.
@@afinecity1830 Short Formation Ones as additional for TPE would be useful Hull-Doncaster-Sheffield-Stockport Shuttles. (no need to fill up manchester esp if Tram can get to Stockport)
@@mall231 not bad just get used to the weird smell them trains have when I went down to Bristol for Xmas in December I got the mega bus was £40 return it may be longer but it’s comfy and cheaper
Some beautiful things to see, some not so beautiful. But that's life. The commentary had a slightly laconic tone at times, bu that's perfectly understandable given the 13+ hours it took. You are quite the hero! There was a time when I would have welcomed such a challenge, but as I am now 20 (x4) years old I'll pass on this. Being a foreigner I had no idea how beautiful southwestern England is. Some of the branch lines in this area must be more beautiful still. any chance you could explore them? I still think of Flanders' & Swan's son about them. It's quite wistful. Well done and thanks!
Many thanks for your comments! This tends to be an issue with the Voyager trains due to the type of glazing they have, fortunately this isn’t much of an issue with many other trains in the UK!
Lovey little nod to Chesterfield, thank you. I'm Chesterfield born but now live in Dumfries so I always appreciate a glimpse of home and that good old spire
I've always wondered where the crew changes take place so your commentary is really helpful. Thanks for this. Epic train journey. Also, very interesting facts along the way, thanks. I'll be crossing this line in a few places on a bike ride tomorrow 😊 PS as a very small child on the annual summer holiday journey from Leeds to my grandparents at Weston-Super-Mare, and then back again, I have vague memories of the bankers on the Lickey pushing our steam hauled train up the incline - my train-mad dad used to love it!!!
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Hope you managed to get up and walk around the train during your 13.5 hour journey. I have been on the train but from Sheffield to Cornwall. The best of scenes are in Devon between Exeter and Newton Abbot. Most of the slow time on the train is wants you reach to the Southwest region which I like because it's Cornwall and Devon.
It is still planned to electrify the Forth Bridge by 2035 however, between then and now, the Forth Bridge will be a part of an unelectrified section of the temporary discontinuous electrification plan. Design work is underway for OHLE for the Forth Bridge, however as you can understand, it is extremely complicated given the listed status of the bridge, and it's status as a World Heritage Site. It is likely that a low profile clamp like conductor rail will be used to hold a traditional conductor wire, which will be sympathetically designed and painted to cover the main spans, while low profile wire span will be used on the approach viaducts. Chances are the Forth Bridge will be an entire OHLE section of it's own, allowing a very minimalist, high tension, single wire overhead system to be used, instead of the traditional Catenery Wire, Dropper, Conductor/ Contact wire combination. Return wires would be directly attached to the bridge on the inboard side so as not to be seen.
I live in Aberdeen and I use to take the train to see my sister in Ilfracombe I would take the train to London change at London to go to St. David's Exeter then on to Barnstaple where her husband would pick me up on to Ilfracombe it would take me all day to get there but I loved it taking the train.
Worked as a driver for British Rail back in the early 90s and I'm pretty sure it was this service that used to run up through Manchester/Bolton/Preston at the time and I ran this train a number of times(as memory serves from Stockport to Preston)... it was crazy how many times it was re crewed en-route(I was based out of Manchester Victoria and the train didn't even go there!).
Berwick Newcastle Durham and Darlington are all my north east bread next time I’ll be travelling to York will be a few weeks time in order to commence my trip to Hull
Yes you can travel that journey for 13/1/2 hours on one train. So just imagine doing it from Thurso which is farthest north railway station in UK, but you will have to change at Inverness.
I do a generous stretch of that journey a couple of times a year between Taunton and Darlington or sometimes York and back - ultimately to Middlesbrough! Teign the river and Teignmouth are pronounced Tin and Tinmuth and the Tamar bridge - which some Cornish folk believe links Cornwall to England - is pronounced Taymar!
I travelled by train around most of the UK back in 1986 / 87 & 1991, i believe back then i was travelling on British Rail., and i was on the Intercity125. Before leaving my homeland of New Zealand, i purchased from my travel agent what was known as a Britrail pass., for a month's use on any British Rail Train. I enjoyedf watching this video you made, you've done a awesome job in presenting this video., and this video brought back a lot of memories for me!.
It is SUCH A HUGE SHAME that the UK railways are SO INSANELY EXPENSIVE to use - any class anywhere. My entire family just loves trains, but we are only using buses OR OUR OWN CARS! Such a shame. 😒 But thank you for the excellent video! 😃 Really appreciated. 🙂🙂🙂 I so wish our family could one day use trains in the UK as we always used in Finland, my country of origin, where the train ticket prices are a tiny fraction of the UK ones. Thanks again for the great video about what our family would like to use but can never afford. 😒
I’ve seen one going to Aberdeen from Penzance before when I went down to Dawlish I saw it pass the start of this month so I think there is one both ways but still great video and very brave 😂 but looked like a lovely journey
Some 48 years ago I used to catch what I think was a similar service, the 1240 from Plymouth to Aberdeen, on a Friday, But only as far as Exeter St Davids, it was always standing room only.
I remember many years ago in 'Punch' magazine a joke where a woman in Victorian clothes was standing in a solicitor's office, and the solicitor was saying "So your husband was swimming in the River Tay when he was hit by a train?"
I've travelled with kids and grandkids by train between Reading and St Erth for many years. Always cheered to see so much traffic travelling slowly on the adjacent motorway and trunk roads. Last year, I drove down instead and took the Plymouth road. At the Tamar Bridge, I was delighted to see an 800 crossing the Royal Albert Bridge in the UP direction. An HST would have been better, but I felt something got ticked off that day...
@ThatFanAndStuffGuy Yeah I know that I mean that Avanti West Coast owns those voyagers shown in the video and I'm saying that I think they will go to CrossCountry when they are replaced.
Interesting! I had no idea you've grown up in Sheffield, I live in there for nearly 8 years, great city and very important for the UK railway network! nice video and thank you for going into a 13+ hrs train for us! cheers!
Going from Wakefield to Tiverton on one of these was just chaos. The trains are very short and then they decide to slice it in half at Birmingham??? Had to cram into the carriages with all seats taken and just managed to nab one at Cheltenham (still 40+ minutes stood up). Absolutely dreadful, much prefer an LNER or TransPennine to these.
Over 13 hours of torture! Before the Voyager trains were introduced I enjoyed train travel from Bristol to the north, but now I always fly to Scotland (it's usually cheaper!). Even when Virgin operated Cross Country one of their managers admitted to me that many of their long distance passengers had been lost to planes.
Good job with the video, that's some trip. I've lived at both ends of that journey. Btw upon leaving Plymouth, it's pronounced "Tay-mar" for the River and Bridge 😉
Madness these days to do ANY InterCity journey in a suburban train like this - even for 20 miles. For Penzance - Aberdeen I would demand NOTHING LESS than the comfort and charisma of 10 Mk1s, including a Restaurant Car with full Kitchen. Privatised railway is taking us ALL for a scam ride with these crap "trains". On this journey in these units, I would have got piles by the time I arrived at Bristol Parkway.
I'll take a Voyager over MK1'S any day. And Voyagers are not suburban trains, they are specially designed intercity trains designed for cruising effortlessly at 125mph. There're only 3 issues with them. 1: That the Air Con intake is right next to the vent for the toilet retention tank, hence the smell. 2: There're not enough tables. 3: Lack of luggage space. BTW, I'm old enough to remember travelling with British Rail, and give me the privatised system, and modern trains any day.
Nicely done. Thanks. I hope you get more subscribers so you can travel in first class. That makes a more enjoyable trip for the viewers. Eating and drinking on the train is always interesting.
I regularly end up using this service for travelling between Bristol and Cornwall, and only once has it not been a stressful, cramped, overcrowded experience. If I can use GWR, I will always opt for them instead, even if it sometimes means an extra hour on the train! After looking through the comments, I am glad to see that I am not the only one with the same opinion of Cross Country trains. 😅
I use these sometimes for local journeys within Cornwall. The thought of going all the way to Scotland or indeed anything more than 50 miles os unthinkable. Cramped uncomfortable seats no buffet. Etc. Modern trains are technically more advanced but have gone backwards as far as passenger comfort and facilities. The reworked IC 125s now running as 4 coach units on GWR are way more comfortable and smoother than these.
cheltenham spa is where a train broke down coming home from holiday down in devon it was raining and the windsheild was broken so we all waited for a train to go paddington and took like 30 mins - 1 hour
Just imagine if you did this Journey on an IET with the ironing board seats. The voyagers aren't that bad of a train it's all personal taste. Sadly, the HST's will go within the year I'd think as the XC franchise is ending in October 2023
I am usually very quiet on social networks because of some reactions from some surfers and the quality of the content of the videos but this one certainly makes me come out of my reserve. Thanks for perseverance, especially when you think of the perfectible sound insulation and the intrusive growling of the Cummins engines underneath the cars. Great Job! So edifying!
Good report, well done. Just one thing I found annoying was the reflections for the external views. Not sure if a camera could be mounted to the window directly, thereby eliminating this element. Not a deal breaker though, as I say, good report and well thought out.
I’m guessing that’s a summer only service, I quite fancied that trip but there’s no direct train granted some only had one change at haymarket but still not as straight through. Shame. Enjoyed your video by the way.
Many thanks! I believe it's all year round, however various engineering works have cut it back to numerous destinations at the moment. Should be reinstated fully in March from what I've heard 👍
@@LokiAvivson Realistically, the best option with the service length would probably be one of the HST sets - Which offer superior comfort across both classes, as well as a buffet counter.
Nice journey, but a long one indeed. At the end of December I will travel from Utrecht (NL) to Holyhead (via Rotterdam, Brussels and London) and that will take "just" 12 hours, including interchanges.... As my journey ends in Ireland the next day and I have the return a week later I travel with a 4 days Interrail 1st Class, which is not really cheap but at the other hand not too expensive either.
Did quite a few journeys on Voyagers between 2003 and 2010. Fond memories. Never really had any comfort complaints... They are a little noisy, but that's what you get for a D(E)MU.
Lol, I remember Aberdeen being the greyest place ever when I visited... well, memory serves.. so much grey! Can't always help the clouds I guess though.
9 minutes late on a Voyager is not bad when you consider the mileage covered. I took a trip from Bristol to Doncaster on one of these and we ended up running on just one power car and we were 98 minutes late. Crappy 158 Super Sprinter from Weymouth to Bristol arriving 3 minutes early at Temple Meads then it all went to pot on Cross Country. Worst trains other than the Pacers up north. Thanks for the trip though. Really enjoyed the scenery.
Always doing the section from York to Birmingham going to and from uni and it's always packed with nowhere to put luggage especially if boarding at Birmingham, normally a bit less busy at York but that changes at Leeds or Sheffield normally.
I used to travel on the HSTs from Aberdeen to Manchester Piccadilly as I was at uni in manchester at the time. One thing I always found odd was when I was travelling home I always had to change in glasgow from central to queen street. Yet on the way down it was the same train south.
Having used all train companies in England, Scotland and wales I would say Virgin was quite poor but the worst was Northern Rail , appalling rolling stock which I believe they are now starting to upgrade .
Based on the Midlands, I'd say they all have good and bad points except cross country where you can guarantee the train will be half as long as it needs to be and 3x capacity of people on board. And running late. Cc need the franchise taking off them soon
Northern aren't bad anymore. Vast majority now refurbed and it's quite pleasant, even on peak isn't bad. EMR and CrossCountry have to be the worst, for the distance I travelled in standard and first class it's a battle for seats and there was nothing worthy of first class on East Midlands (just headrests)
Hmmm. Try a BUS trip from Northern Ontario to Southern Ontario, during the middle of a blinding snowstorm, where all the seats are taken and there are several people sitting/standing in the aisle. It was supposed to take 12 hours, but it took 18 hours. We only made one 15 minute stop in Toronto for food. Ontario Northland buses are TERRIBLE, too.
You mentioned not seeing a train not stop at Haymarket, Trains that pass Haymarket non stop: Caledonian Sleeper services, 1D99 XC Edinburgh Waverley to Glasgow Central
Avanti customer service is impeccable. I had a cat with me and it was full service so they upgraded us to first class so we had less stimulate for my cat. G
The cool thing about his route is you get the ECML, MML, a sprinkle of the WCML and the GWR, all in one trip.
Epic trip, quite a journey. Deserves many likes and comments, just for spending 13 and a half hours on a Voyager!! Fantastic work, well done, great channel 🚂😊
You absolute madman. You did the whole thing!
Been on the bucket list for a very long time, glad to have got it done! 😂
Great trip report! I wouldn’t fancy 13.5 hours with that seating. I traveled 14 hours on Amtrak but they have big seats and you could kick your legs out and not touch the seat in front!
I love how Americans complain about Amtrak till they're blue in the face, but they're so much more comfy than our trains!
But North American passenger trains never go faster than a crawl.
To be honest, I would rather travel 13 hours on one off these seats than on a GWR IET, LNER Azuma or TL 700.
I’m a member at the Starcross Yacht Club you pass at 31:22, one of the great joys of being out on the water is when the steam train thunders down the same track. If you’re very lucky you can sometimes also have the twin seat Spitfire taking passengers out and around in the area.
Hol up’ a spitfire taking passengers out?
@@thecubingguy7333 yup. There are infact two twin seat trainers so you and a friend can have a dogfight if you like….
Fascinating, and well done for enduring such a long trip on a Voyager! My first trip on this Cross Country journey was back in 1989 when, at that point in its history, it ran only between Penzance and Edinburgh. I did the reverse to your trip. Getting to Penzance was a feat in itself from the Lincolnshire Coast, meant I set out the previous evening via Grantham and the ECML, and a hair raising ride in a black cab from King's Cross to Paddington. Here I took the Night Riviera, although in seated accomodation, to Penzance. "The Cornishman", as it was then called, was ex Penzance at 0923. I was lucky as this was an HST set at this time. Even so, very busy throughout. A few fun and games as a passenger beside me had something in the luggage rack leaking vinegar which proceeded to drip on the table until I managed to get a member of staff to sort it. Also got diverted at Newcastle via Carlisle. Outskirts of Edinburgh, one of the local Ned's in the outskirts decided to take pot shots with an air rifle, shattering the window where I had recently moved from. Very late into Edinburgh and a sprint up the stairs to get to St Andrew Sq bus station just managing to get the last coach to Perth!
Years later I would also do the longest National Express route 336 from Edinburgh to Penzance, an epic overnight trip that didn't reach Penzance until teatime the following day. Think even a Voyager would be better 🤣
Did you stop at the Station Hotel in Aberdeen? I did this on another trip years later. Although it had bad reviews, I really enjoyed it, even though some of the furnishings in the room looked almost antiques!
I used to take a previous incarnation of this route back in the early 90s. In my teens the family lived in Aberdeenshire. Parents still do. They have a holiday cottage in SW Cornwall, and I took the train rather than the back of the car crammed full of luggage, dog and sister. It was an HST running to Edinburgh, then across to the west coast line through Carlisle and on to Birmingham where it was much the same to Penzance. Not to expensive with a young person's railcard, and ridiculously cheap once you claimed your refund for the inevitable delays.
What an outstanding video and a great commentary! Getting all those facts and information in at the right places must have been no easy undertaking and I really appreciate the effort. I aspire to take this trip one day in 2023. Thank you and safe travels!🚅
I've done the Bristol to Newton Abbot stage of this journey sat on the floor of a ram packed train, overcrowding was a big problem
Bristol to Penzance. Always quieter after Exeter
Wow, that was indeed an epic trip. Thanks for the video. I'm in the US, and wish we had more and better passenger train service here. I've traveled around the UK with a BritRail pass, and want to do that again. My longest UK train journey was from York to Penzance - in first class, about six years ago. It was comfortable - and memorable thanks to the guy across the aisle who drank too many bottles of wine along the way, and kept getting more impaired with each one. Fortunately for him he was traveling with his very well-behaved dog. I enjoyed interacting with the dog. 😂
Oh cool what was the dog called ?
Ha, he missed a trick, I put those bottles of wine and beer in my bag, my record is 13!
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On a recent trip from Inverness to Aberdeen I was delighted to find an HST rostered for the journey. Quite an improvement on the 158s.
Yes, HST & Mk3s are a proper train (well almost); as opposed to the 158s being buses on rails.
They don't have the supercomfy British Rail armchair-style seats though - Operating companies took them out and replaced them with very similar seats to the Avanti/,cross country Standard class. Horrible . At least you can open the window on the slam-doors in the vestibules.
@@prof.hectorholbrook4692 158s aren't buses on rails Pacer is
Great video, Cadburys at Bournville is actually an operational factory, they make dairy milk and some of the other ‘block’ type chocolate there. As you walk round the factory you can smell the molten chocolate in production, sometimes depending on the wind you can smell it from the station. Cadbury world is on the back of the factory and part of the ‘tour’ goes through some of the production facility.
Maybe a comment worth making is that Avanti class 221s tilt, but XC ones don't - the tilt mechanism was removed to save maintenance costs
An outstanding video and informative commentary, so thank you! I have been on CrossRail from Derby to Truro, and the 4-coach train was overcrowded for most of the journey. Still the best way to get to Devon and Cornwall!
The structure you see across the River Plym is an 18th century grotto carved into rock above the Saltram Amphitheatre, in the grounds of Saltram House, which is a National Trust property. I think there are worries about the safety of the surrounding rock, so am not sure how close you can get to it these days.
thanks for that interesting piece of information, Patrick :)
Great Video As a photographer may I suggest you try a polarising filter as this will remove most of the window reflections when shooting from inside the carriage.
Was just going to write the same thing. There are still some things phones can't do I guess!
@@lapamful good idea....the glare was quite strong
That would be an amazing route for sleeper trains
The only thing I like about the voyagers is that they are finally reaching the end of their service life.
Horrid trains from day 1 of their introduction. Far too cramped for the number of passengers and their luggage.
They aren't though,only with Avanti. XC will gain the 221's from them to add to their current fleet. Here for many years yet!
@@afinecity1830 Short Formation Ones as additional for TPE would be useful Hull-Doncaster-Sheffield-Stockport Shuttles. (no need to fill up manchester esp if Tram can get to Stockport)
@@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf "Here for many years yet!"
Hopefully not, these rattly POS need to go now.
47+mk3 was better
You deserve a knighthood for doing this. 13 hours on a voyager with those seats. 👏🏽 👏🏽
I can barely travel 2 hours
Glad I’m not the only one who think cross country trains are rough but it’s the only train that goes from Bristol too leeds
To be honest, I would rather travel 13 hours on one off these seats than on a GWR IET, LNER Azuma or TL 700.
@@Jlaffey02 how is that journey iam thinking of doing that this summer?
@@mall231 not bad just get used to the weird smell them trains have when I went down to Bristol for Xmas in December I got the mega bus was £40 return it may be longer but it’s comfy and cheaper
32:44 That's just an old archway located on the walk that goes around the grounds of Saltram (one of the many old estates run by the National Trust).
Some beautiful things to see, some not so beautiful. But that's life. The commentary had a slightly laconic tone at times, bu that's perfectly understandable given the 13+ hours it took. You are quite the hero!
There was a time when I would have welcomed such a challenge, but as I am now 20 (x4) years old I'll pass on this. Being a foreigner I had no idea how beautiful southwestern England is. Some of the branch lines in this area must be more beautiful still. any chance you could explore them? I still think of Flanders' & Swan's son about them. It's quite wistful.
Well done and thanks!
So scenic and interesting...Many Thanks... I look forward to other Video's.
That was epic! Bravo great trip.
You certainly could do with a polarising filter in front of the lens to minimise window reflections. Most enjoyable video all the same, thank you! 🥰
Many thanks for your comments! This tends to be an issue with the Voyager trains due to the type of glazing they have, fortunately this isn’t much of an issue with many other trains in the UK!
Great video because i've been there and i can say i realy miss these trains. I don't understand why people hate these trains.
Lovey little nod to Chesterfield, thank you. I'm Chesterfield born but now live in Dumfries so I always appreciate a glimpse of home and that good old spire
I've always wondered where the crew changes take place so your commentary is really helpful. Thanks for this. Epic train journey. Also, very interesting facts along the way, thanks. I'll be crossing this line in a few places on a bike ride tomorrow 😊 PS as a very small child on the annual summer holiday journey from Leeds to my grandparents at Weston-Super-Mare, and then back again, I have vague memories of the bankers on the Lickey pushing our steam hauled train up the incline - my train-mad dad used to love it!!!
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Crossing the Forth you see my old (and favourite) ship. A lot of good friends would still have been there. Brings back happy memories.
Hope you managed to get up and walk around the train during your 13.5 hour journey. I have been on the train but from Sheffield to Cornwall. The best of scenes are in Devon between Exeter and Newton Abbot. Most of the slow time on the train is wants you reach to the Southwest region which I like because it's Cornwall and Devon.
It is still planned to electrify the Forth Bridge by 2035 however, between then and now, the Forth Bridge will be a part of an unelectrified section of the temporary discontinuous electrification plan. Design work is underway for OHLE for the Forth Bridge, however as you can understand, it is extremely complicated given the listed status of the bridge, and it's status as a World Heritage Site. It is likely that a low profile clamp like conductor rail will be used to hold a traditional conductor wire, which will be sympathetically designed and painted to cover the main spans, while low profile wire span will be used on the approach viaducts. Chances are the Forth Bridge will be an entire OHLE section of it's own, allowing a very minimalist, high tension, single wire overhead system to be used, instead of the traditional Catenery Wire, Dropper, Conductor/ Contact wire combination. Return wires would be directly attached to the bridge on the inboard side so as not to be seen.
I live in Aberdeen and I use to take the train to see my sister in Ilfracombe I would take the train to London change at London to go to St. David's Exeter then on to Barnstaple where her husband would pick me up on to Ilfracombe it would take me all day to get there but I loved it taking the train.
Great video In 2019 what for Exeter to Aberdeen and only 15 minutes late in Aberdeen because of a signal just south of Aberdeen
Worth mentioning that the white ship at Penzance is the ferry to the Isles of Scilly MV Scillonian.
Worked as a driver for British Rail back in the early 90s and I'm pretty sure it was this service that used to run up through Manchester/Bolton/Preston at the time and I ran this train a number of times(as memory serves from Stockport to Preston)... it was crazy how many times it was re crewed en-route(I was based out of Manchester Victoria and the train didn't even go there!).
Berwick Newcastle Durham and Darlington are all my north east bread next time I’ll be travelling to York will be a few weeks time in order to commence my trip to Hull
Yes you can travel that journey for 13/1/2 hours on one train. So just imagine doing it from Thurso which is farthest north railway station in UK, but you will have to change at Inverness.
and a hotel on friday night
I do a generous stretch of that journey a couple of times a year between Taunton and Darlington or sometimes York and back - ultimately to Middlesbrough!
Teign the river and Teignmouth are pronounced Tin and Tinmuth and the Tamar bridge - which some Cornish folk believe links Cornwall to England - is pronounced Taymar!
I travelled by train around most of the UK back in 1986 / 87 & 1991, i believe back then i was travelling on British Rail., and i was on the Intercity125. Before leaving my homeland of New Zealand, i purchased from my travel agent what was known as a Britrail pass., for a month's use on any British Rail Train. I enjoyedf watching this video you made, you've done a awesome job in presenting this video., and this video brought back a lot of memories for me!.
It is SUCH A HUGE SHAME that the UK railways are SO INSANELY EXPENSIVE to use - any class anywhere. My entire family just loves trains, but we are only using buses OR OUR OWN CARS! Such a shame. 😒 But thank you for the excellent video! 😃 Really appreciated. 🙂🙂🙂 I so wish our family could one day use trains in the UK as we always used in Finland, my country of origin, where the train ticket prices are a tiny fraction of the UK ones. Thanks again for the great video about what our family would like to use but can never afford. 😒
I remember that was a daily service when I studying in Aberdeen over 10 yrs ago....time flies...
I’ve seen one going to Aberdeen from Penzance before when I went down to Dawlish I saw it pass the start of this month so I think there is one both ways but still great video and very brave 😂 but looked like a lovely journey
Some 48 years ago I used to catch what I think was a similar service, the 1240 from Plymouth to Aberdeen, on a Friday, But only as far as Exeter St Davids, it was always standing room only.
Did you notice whilst crossing the Tay Bridge leaving Dundee, the supports of the original bridge mentioned are still visible poking out of the river?
I actually didn’t, many thanks for letting me know!
I know I Saw Them It Is Truly Amazing they Stay Alive For So Long!
I remember many years ago in 'Punch' magazine a joke where a woman in Victorian clothes was standing in a solicitor's office, and the solicitor was saying "So your husband was swimming in the River Tay when he was hit by a train?"
I used to drive across the Tamar bridge, and it was quite difficult to not stare at the rail bridge whilst driving!
I've travelled with kids and grandkids by train between Reading and St Erth for many years. Always cheered to see so much traffic travelling slowly on the adjacent motorway and trunk roads. Last year, I drove down instead and took the Plymouth road. At the Tamar Bridge, I was delighted to see an 800 crossing the Royal Albert Bridge in the UP direction. An HST would have been better, but I felt something got ticked off that day...
Great Video! I think Avanti's 221s will go to CrossCountry probably to fix the overcrowding problem at places like Birmingham New Street etc.
Possibly. Nothing has been announced.
I think they are going to cross country and avanti will replace them will hitachi class 805 and 807s
@ThatFanAndStuffGuy Yeah I know that I mean that Avanti West Coast owns those voyagers shown in the video and I'm saying that I think they will go to CrossCountry when they are replaced.
My understanding is that Avanti's Voyagers will go to XC to allow them to get rid of the 170s, they are sorely needed on Nottingham-Cardiff.
@@kevinellis8869 aw, but I love the 170s, will they stay on the Birmingham New Street - Cambridge (via Leicester)?
Thoroughly enjoyable, great video
Just found and subscribed. Nice video. Full of little tidbits of info. I await more from your channel.
An excellent, well-presented video. That was quite a journey!
Interesting! I had no idea you've grown up in Sheffield, I live in there for nearly 8 years, great city and very important for the UK railway network! nice video and thank you for going into a 13+ hrs train for us! cheers!
Cracking video, the short ride from St Erth to St Ives is a beautiful line
Going from Wakefield to Tiverton on one of these was just chaos. The trains are very short and then they decide to slice it in half at Birmingham??? Had to cram into the carriages with all seats taken and just managed to nab one at Cheltenham (still 40+ minutes stood up). Absolutely dreadful, much prefer an LNER or TransPennine to these.
ouch! agreed LNER are far better id trade a hard seat for a faster jounrey time any day
Over 13 hours of torture! Before the Voyager trains were introduced I enjoyed train travel from Bristol to the north, but now I always fly to Scotland (it's usually cheaper!). Even when Virgin operated Cross Country one of their managers admitted to me that many of their long distance passengers had been lost to planes.
Really enjoyed this video. thanks!
thanks for posting,really enjoyed it.
and at about 11p a mile!!
Tyneside Mail Centre has a rail platform and a spur, that will explain the RM train stabled in the sidings.
Good one... Enjoyed watching the ride
Good job with the video, that's some trip. I've lived at both ends of that journey.
Btw upon leaving Plymouth, it's pronounced "Tay-mar" for the River and Bridge 😉
Madness these days to do ANY InterCity journey in a suburban train like this - even for 20 miles.
For Penzance - Aberdeen I would demand NOTHING LESS than the comfort and charisma of 10 Mk1s, including a Restaurant Car with full Kitchen.
Privatised railway is taking us ALL for a scam ride with these crap "trains".
On this journey in these units, I would have got piles by the time I arrived at Bristol Parkway.
10 mk1s that'll disintegrate if you're unfortunate enough to have a crash and with a max speed of 100 mph. I'll stick with the Voyager thanks.
I'll take a Voyager over MK1'S any day. And Voyagers are not suburban trains, they are specially designed intercity trains designed for cruising effortlessly at 125mph. There're only 3 issues with them. 1: That the Air Con intake is right next to the vent for the toilet retention tank, hence the smell. 2: There're not enough tables. 3: Lack of luggage space.
BTW, I'm old enough to remember travelling with British Rail, and give me the privatised system, and modern trains any day.
20:21 Also Neville Hill keep CrossCountry HSTs as well
The rumbling the train makes sounds like my washing machine!
Enjoy the ride.
Nicely done. Thanks. I hope you get more subscribers so you can travel in first class. That makes a more enjoyable trip for the viewers. Eating and drinking on the train is always interesting.
I regularly end up using this service for travelling between Bristol and Cornwall, and only once has it not been a stressful, cramped, overcrowded experience. If I can use GWR, I will always opt for them instead, even if it sometimes means an extra hour on the train!
After looking through the comments, I am glad to see that I am not the only one with the same opinion of Cross Country trains. 😅
GWR is the worst train company!
I use these sometimes for local journeys within Cornwall. The thought of going all the way to Scotland or indeed anything more than 50 miles os unthinkable. Cramped uncomfortable seats no buffet. Etc. Modern trains are technically more advanced but have gone backwards as far as passenger comfort and facilities. The reworked IC 125s now running as 4 coach units on GWR are way more comfortable and smoother than these.
Absolutely agree with you. Trains used to be comfortable. Now the ironing board seats would be shameful on a local bus.
@@michaelmontagu3979 Actually the seats on the buses to St Ives and Penzance are more comfortable than the new GWR and cross country trains
@@robindtgriffiths6487 I'm honestly not surprised
cheltenham spa is where a train broke down coming home from holiday down in devon it was raining and the windsheild was broken so we all waited for a train to go paddington and took like 30 mins - 1 hour
Love to travel by train; we used the Cross Country services twice last summer, from Penzance to Birmingham. Such good memories.
Just imagine if you did this Journey on an IET with the ironing board seats. The voyagers aren't that bad of a train it's all personal taste. Sadly, the HST's will go within the year I'd think as the XC franchise is ending in October 2023
I agree. Fainsa seats on the IET and the class 700's are truly dreadful. You couldn't do this journey on a class 800 series unit.
‘Iron boards’ are fine though. I don’t get why everyone hates them
Great video mate. Plenty seen on the long journey which was good. Looks like you enjoyed yourself.
I am usually very quiet on social networks because of some reactions from some surfers and the quality of the content of the videos but this one certainly makes me come out of my reserve.
Thanks for perseverance, especially when you think of the perfectible sound insulation
and the intrusive growling of the Cummins engines underneath the cars.
Great Job! So edifying!
No worries, glad to hear you enjoyed! 😁
Great video, very informative
I loved your commentary❤️
Wonderful Trip.. Love to take this Train ride.
Very interesting and informative, Well done!
07:57 You can see the stumps of the old bridge that fell down right next to the new bridge supports
Great video . Very interesting goes near me in Sheffield 👍
Good report, well done. Just one thing I found annoying was the reflections for the external views. Not sure if a camera could be mounted to the window directly, thereby eliminating this element. Not a deal breaker though, as I say, good report and well thought out.
brilliant video I really enjoyed the trip 😀 Thanks
I’m guessing that’s a summer only service, I quite fancied that trip but there’s no direct train granted some only had one change at haymarket but still not as straight through. Shame. Enjoyed your video by the way.
Many thanks! I believe it's all year round, however various engineering works have cut it back to numerous destinations at the moment. Should be reinstated fully in March from what I've heard 👍
I like the Class 220 and 221. Apart from the seats but on a short journey like to Taunton they alright.
That’s some journey. Might use this as it did stop at kirkcaudy the nearest major station in my old town to go to my new home in Sheffield.
despite all the hate towards voyagers, I don’t mind them that much. yes, they may be a little uncomfortable, but it’s nothing compared to an IET
I do not think this through route exists anymore.
You are unironically a madman for even considering undertaking this 🤣
Great video as always!
@@LokiAvivson Realistically, the best option with the service length would probably be one of the HST sets - Which offer superior comfort across both classes, as well as a buffet counter.
@@LokiAvivson Yeah, the avanti ones do
could recomend a trip to st ives if you head bk down this way the final part is defo worth doing in daylight due to the views of the beaches
Nice journey, but a long one indeed. At the end of December I will travel from Utrecht (NL) to Holyhead (via Rotterdam, Brussels and London) and that will take "just" 12 hours, including interchanges.... As my journey ends in Ireland the next day and I have the return a week later I travel with a 4 days Interrail 1st Class, which is not really cheap but at the other hand not too expensive either.
Did quite a few journeys on Voyagers between 2003 and 2010. Fond memories. Never really had any comfort complaints...
They are a little noisy, but that's what you get for a D(E)MU.
Great journey. I wish you would have shown more on the interior of the train. Was food served during this long trip?
Good grief! An hour and a half to Manchester on a voyager is bad enough. Awful trains. Will be glad to eventually see the back of them!
Lol, I remember Aberdeen being the greyest place ever when I visited... well, memory serves.. so much grey! Can't always help the clouds I guess though.
You should fly to Boston, Massachusetts and ride the Amtrak silver service down to Florida.
9 minutes late on a Voyager is not bad when you consider the mileage covered. I took a trip from Bristol to Doncaster on one of these and we ended up running on just one power car and we were 98 minutes late. Crappy 158 Super Sprinter from Weymouth to Bristol arriving 3 minutes early at Temple Meads then it all went to pot on Cross Country. Worst trains other than the Pacers up north.
Thanks for the trip though. Really enjoyed the scenery.
Always doing the section from York to Birmingham going to and from uni and it's always packed with nowhere to put luggage especially if boarding at Birmingham, normally a bit less busy at York but that changes at Leeds or Sheffield normally.
Awesome video buddy from Alan Shelley in Lowestoft
Lol, he was very lucky to have nice weather in Scotland.
in the 90s i went on the brighton to aberdeen train ... that was an hst .. but very painful !!! 13 hrs
Would rather have a HST over the Voyager I rode! 😅
I used to travel on the HSTs from Aberdeen to Manchester Piccadilly as I was at uni in manchester at the time. One thing I always found odd was when I was travelling home I always had to change in glasgow from central to queen street. Yet on the way down it was the same train south.
I have done Aberdeen to Plymouth/Truro, and back more times than I can remember.
Having used all train companies in England, Scotland and wales I would say Virgin was quite poor but the worst was Northern Rail , appalling rolling stock which I believe they are now starting to upgrade .
True
Based on the Midlands, I'd say they all have good and bad points except cross country where you can guarantee the train will be half as long as it needs to be and 3x capacity of people on board. And running late.
Cc need the franchise taking off them soon
Northern aren't bad anymore. Vast majority now refurbed and it's quite pleasant, even on peak isn't bad. EMR and CrossCountry have to be the worst, for the distance I travelled in standard and first class it's a battle for seats and there was nothing worthy of first class on East Midlands (just headrests)
Hmmm. Try a BUS trip from Northern Ontario to Southern Ontario, during the middle of a blinding snowstorm, where all the seats are taken and there are several people sitting/standing in the aisle. It was supposed to take 12 hours, but it took 18 hours. We only made one 15 minute stop in Toronto for food. Ontario Northland buses are TERRIBLE, too.
You mentioned not seeing a train not stop at Haymarket, Trains that pass Haymarket non stop: Caledonian Sleeper services, 1D99 XC Edinburgh Waverley to Glasgow Central
Ahhh did not know that, many thanks!