Just had to check, 48,08$ to Norway. Probably shipping through something like eBay global shipping program would bring the price down, as it seems to (mostly) have reasonable pricing.
@@AndrewKleinWW Yes, it was the cheapest option. I thought I had not put in my zip, but I had. Just seems like a really high price for shipping to Illinois.
Mine was $18.50. Don't want Andy to take a hit on shipping, but I also feel UPS is ripping off Andy at the same time. The pre-sale discount made it doable.
@@AndrewKleinWW UPS charges more for residential delivery, and prices are based more on package size, than by weight. That being said, addresses on my street quote $17.75, but addresses on the other streets around my block are $11.64. Something's off
Was wondering how this would perform after getting some fine sawdust on it? I have been using leather in my vise and am very happy with that got two pieces for $20 from the scrap bin at Tandy
I bought your version a few years ago. I am going to install it on a new vise and I was wondering does this stuff need to be on both sides of the vise and does this stuff expire? Thanks
You mentioned that the benchcrafted had done better in previous testing. That made me wonder, is it possible that the surface of the material became polished after repeated compression and sliding? Could be an interesting test, "Longevity of Surface Grip".
Have you ever been to a restaurant that has those self pay credit card / game pads on the table and tried to slide one of those on the table? Whatever non slip rubber they use for the feet seams like it would be incredible for this application.
Out of curiosity, did you test something like 3M Safety-Walk grip tape? That's what I'm currently using in my vise and it's relatively cheap (I can but it by the foot at my local Ace Hardware) and does a reasonable job. Curious how it compares to yours...
Doesn't that scratch the object you're clamping? Even when it doesn't scratch during clamping, it's bound to leave marks when you take the object in and out of the vise.
I build guitars and I hand plane/scrape my back, sides and sound boards to 2mm +/-. I currently clamp in various positions and move the pieces and clamps around which is a pain, is time consuming and introduces errors. I've tried double sided tape but at those thicknesses you'll plane the shape tape into the workpiece and the tape can damage the wood. I've considered a vacuum hold down and may still make one but, will this stuff hold a 1/8" X 8" X 20" piece of spruce or rosewood and allow accurate planing? What about dust? Does it lose it's tack when dusty/dirty? Does it maintain its' grip if washed/cleaned?? Thnx
I haven't done actual quantitative test to show exactly how much dust effects the hold, but it doesn't seem to effect it very much. And a wipe down with a wet rage completely restores the grip.
I would love to be able to pick up some of this lining ahead of the vice release, but UPS pricing to deliver to the UK is too steep for me. I shall save my cash for the main event :) Also, sorry, I feel like all the comments on this video are going to be moaning about UPS. Thanks for putting this video together - as with the other videos you've made for the Twin Turbo, it gives me both enormous confidence in the quality of the vice (and the lining material), and a sincere incentive to pony up the cash and support you and the work you've put into it.
looks like a good find. Some people might also like that your is not a animal product, when comparing to the next best leather. Aside, I noted you said the long term price would be $30, your site has $39.
Something a bit unrelated, I just saw a very long tripod in the cool tools website, it extend to something crazy like 11ft, is from gitzo I believe, perfect for this kind of overhead shots.
I finally signed in and got an email with a link but the prices are either $31 or $41 for different sizes but it also says it is in stock so I am confused as to the presale option?
@@AndrewKleinWW thank you; the confusion was that I just received the email. I am also interested in your bandsaw blade sharpener; what is the status of it?
Awww bugger! I was hoping this was the pre-sale for the vise itself.
Soon!
Just had to check, 48,08$ to Norway. Probably shipping through something like eBay global shipping program would bring the price down, as it seems to (mostly) have reasonable pricing.
I was all for buying one, but $17 for shipping made me change my mind. It's not that heavy, why is the shipping so high?
Is that the price for UPS ground?
@@AndrewKleinWW Yes, it was the cheapest option. I thought I had not put in my zip, but I had. Just seems like a really high price for shipping to Illinois.
Yeah, that does seem really high, I'll look into it
Mine was $18.50. Don't want Andy to take a hit on shipping, but I also feel UPS is ripping off Andy at the same time. The pre-sale discount made it doable.
@@AndrewKleinWW UPS charges more for residential delivery, and prices are based more on package size, than by weight. That being said, addresses on my street quote $17.75, but addresses on the other streets around my block are $11.64. Something's off
Was wondering how this would perform after getting some fine sawdust on it? I have been using leather in my vise and am very happy with that got two pieces for $20 from the scrap bin at Tandy
I bought your version a few years ago. I am going to install it on a new vise and I was wondering does this stuff need to be on both sides of the vise and does this stuff expire? Thanks
I'm in-kleind to buy some of this!
You mentioned that the benchcrafted had done better in previous testing. That made me wonder, is it possible that the surface of the material became polished after repeated compression and sliding? Could be an interesting test, "Longevity of Surface Grip".
Have you ever been to a restaurant that has those self pay credit card / game pads on the table and tried to slide one of those on the table? Whatever non slip rubber they use for the feet seams like it would be incredible for this application.
Out of curiosity, did you test something like 3M Safety-Walk grip tape? That's what I'm currently using in my vise and it's relatively cheap (I can but it by the foot at my local Ace Hardware) and does a reasonable job. Curious how it compares to yours...
Nope, haven’t tried that, but willing to give it a shot.
@@AndrewKleinWW If you're going to do another test, you could also try a sheet of regular neoprene rubber maybe 1/16" or 1/8" thickness.
I wonder how it compares to sandpaper. I currently use adhesive backed 220 grit sandpaper with great results. If it beats that, I would be interested!
Doesn't that scratch the object you're clamping? Even when it doesn't scratch during clamping, it's bound to leave marks when you take the object in and out of the vise.
@@michael.knight It doesn't scratch your work pieces at all. If you don't believe me, give it a try.
I build guitars and I hand plane/scrape my back, sides and sound boards to 2mm +/-. I currently clamp in various positions and move the pieces and clamps around which is a pain, is time consuming and introduces errors. I've tried double sided tape but at those thicknesses you'll plane the shape tape into the workpiece and the tape can damage the wood. I've considered a vacuum hold down and may still make one but, will this stuff hold a 1/8" X 8" X 20" piece of spruce or rosewood and allow accurate planing? What about dust? Does it lose it's tack when dusty/dirty? Does it maintain its' grip if washed/cleaned?? Thnx
I haven't done actual quantitative test to show exactly how much dust effects the hold, but it doesn't seem to effect it very much. And a wipe down with a wet rage completely restores the grip.
I would love to be able to pick up some of this lining ahead of the vice release, but UPS pricing to deliver to the UK is too steep for me. I shall save my cash for the main event :)
Also, sorry, I feel like all the comments on this video are going to be moaning about UPS. Thanks for putting this video together - as with the other videos you've made for the Twin Turbo, it gives me both enormous confidence in the quality of the vice (and the lining material), and a sincere incentive to pony up the cash and support you and the work you've put into it.
Hey, don’t worry, I really wish I could do better on the international rates. Fair warning, use shipping to the UK will be no picnic
looks like a good find. Some people might also like that your is not a animal product, when comparing to the next best leather. Aside, I noted you said the long term price would be $30, your site has $39.
Site is wrong, need to update
Something a bit unrelated, I just saw a very long tripod in the cool tools website, it extend to something crazy like 11ft, is from gitzo I believe, perfect for this kind of overhead shots.
Cool, but taller than I need in my low ceiling shop
I don't see a link to the cork presale, where I can actually purchase it. Please send me the link.
Here: www.in-kleind.com/store/Shop-Accessories-c33133004
The vise material just arrived. What did you use as an adhesive?
I used rubber cement which worked pretty well, a couple corners have come loose and those I tack down with CA glue
Is this stuff made by Fastcap?
nope
I feel torn. I do trust you but I want to watch the entire video. What to do? :)
Life is never easy
How does it perform with time? When it dries or there’s dust on it.
doesn't dry out with time, lots of dust is a problem, but easy to clean off.
I finally signed in and got an email with a link but the prices are either $31 or $41 for different sizes but it also says it is in stock so I am confused as to the presale option?
It’s not a presale anymore, this is an old video and I should probably change the title,, I have the cork rubber in stock
@@AndrewKleinWW thank you; the confusion was that I just received the email. I am also interested in your bandsaw blade sharpener; what is the status of it?
The sharpener is finished, you get those files when you buy the cork rubber
How do you attach it to vice. I don't recall you saying how
Sorry, contact cement
Or a similar adhesive
What's wrong with neoprene rubber I would say is better
did I miss the link to order some?
Should be in the description
$13 shipping to pa? why so high, just put it in an envelope and ill be happy haha
Been to checkout but sadly the cheapest shipping to the UK was $44 😥
I know, it sucks, best rates I could negotiate, sorry
Shipping to Australia is $45 🤯
I know man, it sucks, teleportation invention efforts have been very slow going.
Almost $30 to Canada, so I would say australia is cheap. LOL
Just checked now, shipping is $80 to Australia, twice the price of the product.