Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern Vol. 1, The East End: SD40-2 Marathon - FULL VIDEO (2012)
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- This is C. Vision's full video covering Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern's east end, between Winona, Minnesota and Waseca, Minnesota, with additional coverage of DM&E trains over the IC&E Owatonna Subdivision, and Union Pacific's Albert Lea Subdivision. SD40 and SD40-2 locomotives are seen operating in a multitude of paint schemes, with ICE, DME, CP, STL&H, and CITX units appearing throughout the video. DM&E GP40 and GP38-3 locomotives are also documented on several local freights and road trains, as well as a special passenger train operated for DM&E shippers and their families.
Beginning in Winona, we take a quick look back to the 1990s, as a CP crew works at Tower CK with a pair of SOO GP15C Caterpillar locomotives. Next, the DM&E gets into the act with a "west train" powered by SD9s and an SD40-3. From there, we head west across the Waseca Subdivision as it works its way out of the Mississippi River Valley, and up the steep 1.7% grade between Stockton and Lewiston. From there, the tracks make their way through farm fields and small towns, as the route traverses the rolling countryside of southeastern Minnesota. We visit Rochester, see trains climbing Byron Hill east of Byron, Minnesota, and explore several other points of interest before arriving in Owatonna. From Owatonna, we'll take a side trip over former Milwaukee Road rails, as we follow the Owatonna Sub to Austin, Minnesota and Mason City, Iowa. On this line, you'll enjoy the rhythm of 90-pound jointed rail, as heavy trains pound along at decent speeds. We then see a northbound Mason City to Waseca freight sprinting north on UP's Spine Line, and taking the junction at Curtis to connect to the Hartland Subdivision for the trip to Waseca. From there, we cover the final miles of the Waseca Sub between Owatonna and Waseca.
As seen in the thumbnail, DM&E and IC&E still employed several classic Griswold crossing signals at the time of production. Shortly before they were removed from service, we captured two pairs of these signals still equipped with rotating stop signs.
This was an exciting time on the DM&E, as the railroad was revitalized with track improvements and new traffic in the years leading up to the purchase by Canadian Pacific. Our coverage spans between 1996 and 2011, with most scenes documented shortly before and after the CP takeover.
Thank you to all who helped with the production of this program.
Original music provided by Erik Shicotte.
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I worked for DM&E out of Waseca when I was furloughed from UP. That was in 2010. In my 11 years on the railroad, that was probably the best time in my career. This brings back a lot of good memories for me so I appreciate the work you put into this.
Many scenes in this video were captured in 2010. There’s a chance we saw one of your trains.
@@CVisionProductions1 It would be a great honor! Even some of the grumpy old heads I worked with at that time would have been happy to see this.
We definitely saw a few of those types! But, all in all, we were treated with respect by the Waseca crews. They left our camera crews alone, which is all we can ask for.
I dispatched out of Sioux Falls 2004-2008. Initials MGC or "Mighty Good Coffee",we had tons of fun with that.I still hear from some of the gang out there, I'll never forget it that's for sure.
@cpdispr We remember hearing you! There was also an “MJC”, correct?
The audio is magical. Very nice to hear the harmonics of multiple 645-16s together at deep throttle positions - without any GE's or other units to dilute the audio.
That’s exactly what we were going for. The pure EMD experience. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Wow, almost 2 hours of absolute blissful music provided by those EMD’s and not a single GE unit to spoil the party lol. Awesome video!!! 👍👍
That’s what we were shooting for! Thank you!!!
Just love the Sound of these Classic EMD Locomotives humming upgrade in Notch 8.
We do too! They definitely have a nice sound. And lots of grades on the east end of the DME. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Awesome video or film! The sound of SD40-2 under strain in beautiful.
Thank you very much!!! We couldn’t agree more. The DM&E certainly was the place to be in that era!
I enjoy a Full-Length Video, Dakota, Minnesota, & Eastern puts on a great show!
They certainly did! Glad to share them with you.
1:11:00 Ooo, fireflies! Awesome that Lansing and Owatonna, MN still had a fully operating Grizwold banner crossing signal at the time you were there.
Those Griswolds were so cool with the rotating banners. The ones in this video kept their stop signs until the entire installations were replaced with new crossing signals. And yes, those fireflies were awesome to see! Southern Minnesota is a fantastic place to watch them in late June and early July. Thank you for appreciating those details in the video.
Used to live 2 miles from the Bensenville Yards when young. Could hear the cars slamming when being humped.
Very cool! Thank you for watching and sharing your story.
Love seeing the full length videos! You should upload the IC&E volume 1 Illinois soon! I grew up in that area and would love to relive some nostalgia
Thank you, Ben! We’ll see what ends up on the table in the future.
11/10 video right here!
Thank you so much, Jeff!
Great film, I have this one on DVD!
Thank you very much!
Number 1 on my bucket list!!!Own my own railroad.$$$
That would be a dream come true!
Good luck! I hope it works out for you.
@@CVisionProductions1 me 2 thanks!!!
Nice catch at Curtis, heartland sub is nothing but a memory now.
Thank you! At the time, we didn’t know that the end was near for that line. Just happened to run into the train at Gordon while chasing a UP southbound. We’re glad that the decision was made to turn around and follow the MSWA back north...
I certainly enjoy watching SD40-2 units! Plus I saw a blacked-out ex- Milwaukee Road SD10.
Thanks, MJ! The DM&E had some classic power.
I'm also glad you caught the B-24 wayfreight when it was based out of Rochester. That job is now based out of Waseca.
That’s correct. It was based in Rochester for many years.
@@CVisionProductions1 indeed it has
Weren’t those coils likely bound for McNeilus Steel in Dodge Center?
@@petercarlsen3462 yes sir
Awesome video
Thank you very much, Maryland Railfanner! We appreciate you taking the time to watch our video.
I love this trains video
Thank you! We appreciate the comment!
Nice Video
Thank you!!!
I lived in Rochester Mn 1981 to 1995. I worked at Barlow’s then Napa next door, then across the tracks to Pizza Hut so I had 3 jobs with lots of exposure to the DM&E. I was working at Pizza Hut the night that the big derailment was just west of the bridge where I think it was highway 14 does an S curve going under the tracks. I don’t remember if that was 1992, 1993 or 1994? I remember the westbound train getting into Rochester with 2 or 3 locomotives and only a dozen or so freight cars and I remembered being puzzled by it. The next morning local radio stations shared that there was a derailment east of Rochester the night before. One of my uncles was on his way home to Plainview and went by the location of that derailment just before it happened.
Thank you for sharing that story. The DM&E had its fair share of derailments in the railroad’s early days.
What’d I’d give to have those days back!
Same here, Ross!
This was really well done.
I live along the coast in Calif.Reminds me of Southern Pacific beet trains in the 90s. Miss those S D 40-2's . Still see in U.P. consists ,but not enough.
Thank you, Patrick! Those SP beet trains were pretty awesome. Wish we could have documented them...
@@CVisionProductions1 My Sign shop right on the tracks. My friend and I did little league for our kids.hes a conductor on S.P.
One day they stopped the train to ask me if I wanted to ride! OGM. BEST DAY OF MY LIFE! Once in a lifetime experience. S.D.40 LASH UP.
blew my mind. Thanks for you're great video.
Cab rides are always an enjoyable experience. Riding in older EMDs makes it even better! It’s great to have friends on the railroad…
Thank you for uploading this, loved every second of it. I was curious about that ID of the WAICE, prior to the CP takeover were the IC&E and DM&E two separate railroads?
Thank you for watching! To answer your question, yes, they were two separate railroads. Early on, the symbol for the train bound for the IC&E was WAICE. That changed to HUBRC, then HUCC (CC was Chicago Clearing) during the DM&E’s final years. When the CP took over, they began routing the trains via Winona. Symbols were changed to 488/489. Since then, they’ve been 486/487, 276/277, 470/471, and now 254/255.
@@CVisionProductions1 Thank you! I was always under the impression that they were just a single railroad because they shared nearly identical schemes.
You’re welcome. They were dispatched out of the same building in Sioux Falls and their operations were closely coordinated. So... you could call them close sister companies.
Yes they were the IC&E was Iowa Chicago and Eastern and DM&E was Dakota Minnesota and Eastern
I grew up in and still live in Rochester. Unfortunately through much of the pre-CP takeover, I wasn't old enough to drive but luckily when I got my license, I was able to get the last few years (including 2012) of DM&E power in action. Since the DM&E glory days, many of the customers served by the DM&E have since moved on to delivery by tractor trailer instead of rail. Much of the jointed track on this line has become welded track. The Rochester coal plant has since been shut down. There has been an increase in ethanol and grain trains due to more grain and ethanol businesses established at various locations along this line and the RCPE. But now days, unfortunately, most of manifest traffic just passes through, going to and from the RCPE. Also the classic EMD power has unfortunately become a rarity on the east end of the DM&E, now that CP owns it.
We appreciate hearing your story! A lot has changed in 10-15 years. Thank you for the comments and for watching the video!
@@CVisionProductions1 no problem!
Same here. I live in eagle lake and much of the traffic that was once on the Tracy sub itself has also gone down. See a lot of grain and ethanol yet today but that’s a common site on any railroad in southern Minnesota and northern Iowa.
What did they do with the power plant? I left Rochester in 1995.
@MustangsTrainsMowers It sounds like the Silver Lake Power Plant stopped burning coal in 2013. However, it still generates steam for Mayo Clinic. From what we read, they have a contract with Mayo until 2030.
could we get the rest of the IC&E videos uploaded(
Yes, we can do that for you. We’ll also be extending the coverage area of the videos and adding more scenes.
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We loved the DM&E as well! Thank you, Alex!
It wasn't long after this that they lowered the speed limit back down to 10 mph . From Austin to owatonna the old Milwaukee mainline stick rail couldn't take it .
That’s exactly right. It was cool to see at 25 though! Sounded great.
I live on the owatonna sub and it's true it's 5 mph now there's maintenance hightails on there every day around noonish
@Minnesota railfanning Tough to imagine seeing trains rocking and rolling down that portion of the line at 25 mph today. The ICE completed a massive rehabilitation of the Owatonna Sub between 2004 and 2006. Lots of new welded rail on the south end, and lots of ballast and ties on the north end. Got most of the line up to 25 and 40, depending on the location.
@@CVisionProductions1 yeah strangely in-between Lyle and Austin i think it's jointed
@@Professional_Foaming No they laid the old 110 or 115 welded rail off the paynesville sub , now 136lb. welded... from lyle to Austin . my cousin was the Austin section foremen . They just swapped the rails side to side to make it last longer
Nice
Thank you!
Did CNW or DME have a dark Territory on there way to Rapid city Because i've see no signals.
Your suspicion is correct. The entire route is dark territory. The only signals found on the line are located in Goodview (junction with the former Milwaukee Road), Minnesota City (distant signal for Goodview), Mankato (on UP trackage), and Wolsey (BNSF diamond).
You should upload stuff from the Wisconsin central
That’s in the pipeline!
@@CVisionProductions1 awesome! WC is one of my favorite railroads.
I have dme sd40-2 their so awesome I always love this company had history like no other they had good men and women help them change the face of former millwaukee road and other roads went way make easy use traffic across Iowa and into twin city's
Thank you so much! And we agree! The ICE/DME changed the face of the former CNW and MILW lines that they operated.
There’s something wrong with your video it’s not loading for some reason
I have the same issue
Hmmmmm, not sure what’s up. Hopefully just a temporary glitch.
Looks like it’s working just fine now.
There was a train out of Waseca that was in the video and was handed off to the ICE Exactly where Was that location the symbol was just Waseca to ICE
Hello, Petey. Those M-WAICE trains were usually handed off to the IC&E at Austin. As traffic increased, M-WAICE was replaced with train M-HUBRC from Huron to the BRC’s Clearing Yard in Chicago. That symbol later changed to M-HUCC (CC=Chicago Clearing). Please let us know if you have any more questions.
Amazing to see what the power was back then. I still wish they were around today. Darn Mayo Clinic in Rochester had to make it so DM&E could not do there power river basin project. I believe that is what caused DM&E to turn over ship to CP in the end. Would love to see the Volume where these DM&E trains ran the Tracy sub. Speaking of it, would you know what trains take the Tracy sub now here in 2022? Would like to know what ones, live close by the Tracy sub myself!
Also to note the old stick rail is still here in eagle lake for how long I do not know, CP has been working on some rail upgrades in the area in the past 2-3 years putting new welded rail in.
Should be 254/255 these days. Plus the locals, RCPE trains west of Mankato, ethanol, and grain.
Thanks for info, since I do live close to this line and in fact just a couple weeks ago CP sent a empty ethanol train out to the west. Would you happen to know what the train symbol would be for those or is it still CP 254/255?
Those ethanol numbers vary. Depends on destination. Usually 528/529 or 546/547. 540/541 might be in use as well.
Why do you keep uploading these big movies?
Because we enjoy sharing them. Thank you for watching!
@@CVisionProductions1 ah ok. Would you mind uploading the Progressive Rail one next? I’d love to see that one!!
@@TNS17 We can upload that one shortly!
@@CVisionContributor awesome! I’d love to see it!!
@@TNS17 You’ll get your wish in about a week from the way it sounds.
Dang it DME you took my great railroad the CNW how dare you DME take my great Chicago NorthWestern
It was CNW decision to handover ownership to DM&E CNW did not it any longer. If it was not for the DM&E this route would have not existed today.
No
CNW abandoned the cowboy and colony line in 1992 and the Union Pacific bought cnw and operated the lines for a year then sold it to DME and then DME turned into ICE and then and now is RCPE
Where did the grand trunk western operate and have you done any vids about them?
The Grand Trunk connected Chicago and Ontario via Port Huron, Michigan, with additional lines to Detroit and Ohio. GTW’s mainline serves as CN’s link to Chicago from the east. As you may know, the Canadian National has owned the Grand Trunk for many years. We currently do not have any videos that solely cover the original GTW. A few of our DVD/Blu-ray releases cover the CN operating on former GTW track, however.