"Ashtyn&Jon" are Bad at History: An Unnecessary and Uncalled-for Defence of The Armchair Historian
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2019
- In this video, I- the gallant hero- rush to the aid of poor old Griffy Johnsen, The Armchair Historian, whose content has effectively been stolen by a so-called 'Reaction' channel called "Ashtyn & Jon 2.0"
These individuals watch one of his more popular videos and offer their thoughts on it- which is to say, not very much at all. They basically just sit there while the video plays and people throw money at them. This is quite insulting to Griffin and a terrible affront to history channels here on TH-cam. Basically in this video I am a very pedantic white knight trying to steal views off of two channels much more popular than my own.
Petty? Yes. Silly? Very. Fun? Almost.
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Brandon, thank you for defending my honor. This video was great lmao.
I stand at the ready, sir.
A brand new ship has sailed~
I'm sorry...
Mr armchair historian north or south
Should we prepare the army Brandon.
Nice work both of you gents
In their Zulu reaction, they call the Zulu, ‘African Americans’...
Bruh
Buh... Bhahah!!!
you mean america isn't the whole world?
Bruhh
BruuHHHHHWHHHHHHHHHHWHWHWHWWHWHWHWHWH
hahahahahahahaha
“Why didn’t they just use machine guns?”
I don’t know, maybe the same reason they didn’t use *CRUISE MISSILES* in the *MEDIEVAL* era!?
What reason might that be? They had crosses, crusades, they had crossbolts. All of this combined with the Holy Handgrenade Of Antioch and you have a cruise Missile
@@rictusmetallicus
Well, maybe if they had African Swallows carry the holy hand grenade maybe then.
Is the Hand grenade heavier than a coconut?
Yeah exactly. my favorite part of history was when the novgorod foot soldiers gunned down the teutonic knights on lake peipus with kalashnikov rifles.
@@flyingfish5054 mine was when the Winged Hussars arrived in their P-47s and gunned down the Ottoman armies
@@joehayes9933 no no they flew over them in UH-1 helicopters blasting Sabaton out of the speakers
“Everyone was stupid at that time.” -Ashtyn
Yeah, because you’re clearly smarter than everyone at that time period.
Of course everyone was stupid back then! She should've lead Napoleon's army to victory! If only she was a general, they would've conquered Russia and Britain!
Tru dat
It would be more to do with knowledge than intelligence.
@@cambs0181 True intelligence is owning a machine gun.
I take every opportunity to point out that people of the past were not dumber or simpler, they were incredibly intelligent, just as much as people today. Solutions to problems in the past were often so ingenious, efficient, and simple, it is frequently worth marveling at.
Wow, that woman is clearly not the sharpest bayonet in the store house.
Dude, I have rubber mallets sharper than both of them...
The globe is sharper than this couple.
I think you meant: "the pointiest gun knife in the old timey thingy"
Just when you think you have seen the dumbest dumb person, someone invents a better idiot.
It's actually, "I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed" from SmashMouth's song "Allstar", from 1999.
This is brilliant. I've always wanted to see a history channel go content cop, and you are the perfect person to do it. It's beautiful!
Can I tag team you in for the next one? Because this seems like an unbroken bit of ground, and I'd love to see you do the same!
@@BrandonF Oooh, Don't know if I can do as good of a job, But I can try!
There’s a lizard on your back
I can see Overly Sarcastic Productions doing really well at this stuff.
Potential History really glad to see you here
20:59 “why didn’t they fight in trees?” Simple, the entire world isn’t Vietnam
Lol
A PLANET WHERE EWOKS EVOLVED FROM MEN!?
"I want that treeline bombed!!"
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Thanks Abe
Also then every country that is defensive would have to give up any land that dose not have tress
"Everyone was stupid at that time" -Ashtyn
Says the person lacking a primary school grasp of history, physics and engineering. Christ.
Plus she can't form a cohesive sentence to save her life.
“Everyone was stupid at that time”
-historical scholar 2200 A.D, in reference to the 21st century
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 cyber victorian historians in the 2200's coming up with reasons why their culture is superior to those from the past.
"Fossil fuels? Primitive fools, they ought to have simply discovered fusion power. Also their helmets had horns on."
Laughs in Napoleon I
In all fairness, I don't know any primary schools that teach physics or engineering.
the girl's commentary made my entire collection of military history books burst into flames.
mine marched to Poland
But in Celsius not Fahrenheit
I fell into a deep depression after the "They were all stupid cos they didn't have machine guns" comment
Stupid Cavemen should have used penicillin.
BufusTurbo92 just like the Porsche Tiger?
I am the Ryan in question who recommended this video. Why? Because I saw them react to another video having to do with Linear tactics and they made an ignorant comment that Commanders were being stupid back then, or something to that effect. I was miffed and felt the need to educate. Perhaps I should not have.
Brave of you, boy, but I thought you would’ve learned your lesson.
Why did you pay them 750? Couldn't a less amount have made them watch it?
@@MPbmfm The 750-payer was a different person from the recommender.
Nah you did well... at least you have sound reasoning... unfortunately you can’t teach stupid
you should pay them to watch this video next.
When the woman started rambling on about "armor" I could literally feel my brain cells jumping overboard, abandoning ship, and forming mass suicide conclaves.
Atikoryos her rambling was so toxic it gave me cancer
well she is the girl and probably warfare is not her hobby. Maybe if you starts talks about fashion, make-up and that sorts of things, her brain cells would do the same :-D
@@milosjanos5058 that's not an excuse, even a person that don't know shit could find a reason why they didn't used armour. The weight, the cost or that they are fucking useless against guns
@CIA BETA Wing Kevlar wasn't invented until the 1960's and steel armor that could stop bullets was both too heavy and expensive to be practical.
@CIA BETA Wing sarcasm doesn't really work in text.
“I have fired a musket many many times, and I have never hit a thing.”He says with full pride.
He has probably the same average as a considerable part of the British army
Volleyfire was a pretty effective strategy; even if you don’t hit anything, someone will, and even if no one else does, the shock of that is usually enough to win the day when followed with a bayonet charge. The strategy was used for about 200 years for a reason
Daniel Hyson honestly. I would be shitting my pants, probably pissing them as well, while I stare down ... idk.. 10-30? dudes in a line, all shooting at me??? Yeah fuck that.
Modern military ordnance experts have estimated that it takes firing upwards of !0,000 rounds of modern ammo to hit a single soldier! Firearms are wonderfully accurate on the firing range, when you can rest andrelax, nobody is shooting back at you. But under combat conditions ? Not so much.
Suppressive fire exists, and it’s a lot safer and looks better in the papers that 50,000 shots were fire during a firefight than 2 dead men heading home under flags because people weren’t keeping the enemies’ heads down.
“Why didn’t they just climb trees and use machine guns???”
Knights near the end the Medieval era: “Holy shit why didn’t WE THINK OF THAT?!?!”
Because they had the holy hand grenade of Antioch
@@anthonyhayes1267 "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade, that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin
I now have a mental image of these two nimrods trying to get a Maxim gun into a tree.
Parry this casuals.
Loads LMG with religious intent
Ashtyn's great great granddaughter 200 years from now: "Armies in the 21st century were so stupid. Why didn't they just use phasers?"
What???? She is going to breed? Humanity is doomed.
in the 40 Watt range. 400 years later: "Why didn't they use phasers in the 80 Watt range?"
Grandgrand daughter 21sr century armies were sooooo stupid why dint they used proton torpedo black hole sun luncher with star ships bigger than planet they were soooooo stupid xd
This is actually 44 minutes of Bradon suffering.
the painful, drawn-out sighs are the best bit 👌
this is also 44 minutes of me suffering knowing the reason why they did what they did at the time
Nah m8 this is 44 minutes of us and him suffering
@@AlOstosman to me its endless years of suffering , they critisized our tactics in tue 18th century , time to invade their home
@@mee6211 good invade their home and cut their throat open we do a little trolling
That girl sounds like she was just programmed yesterday.
She’s a failed terminator with zero world info implemented into her
....file not found.
Those are the best ones 😜
@@jorgealdridge6665
...eh.
"ooh girl tell me how you like it"
"Durda derr."
She was programmed yesterday but several minutes ago fell off the turnip truck.
"If you're gonna go out there you should have some kind of chest-plated armor"
Cuirassier Cavalry: Am I a joke to you?
Marshall Murat approves!
Lannes? Is that you?
Pikeman: *weeps in the corner*
Harquebusier: Shhhhh there there... *pats Pikeman on shoulder*
It's funny because even today armour is bullet resistant not proof you can still be killed wearing it.
@Comte de Anyles You could fall out of a helicopter wearing it.
I wish i got payed 750 dollars to watch a history youtube video.
gabriel bello I would be ballin!! 🤑 haha
We all would! Although that is someones total donation. I've seen some of their videos and Jason has donated over $1000 now.
*insert you get payed meme*
I think we all wish that
*STONKS*
Brandon: defending a fellow comrade.
Potential history: says that Brandon is a content cop
Armchair historian: thanks him for defending his honor
Me: the three great armies have mobilized.
alert Kings and Generals!
We must summon George III, Frederick the Great, and General Patton!
So, Brandon is the British,
Potential History is Austia/Prussia combo,
The Armchair historian is the Tzarist Russia.
Is this pre or post Congress of Vienna?
The third triumvirate
Yes
Those stupid musket men should’ve had machine guns.
Also, if they were even cleverer they could’ve invented battle tanks.
CIA BETA Wing I mean they had Aircraft I believe didn’t they have hot air balloons which where aircraft. I mean not that these vegetables would understand how to build even a air balloon. (I don’t know how but understand how)
Don't know why they just didn't invent bombers? Didn't they have like...oil or something?
Actually, Leonardo da Vinci invented something of a tank once. So...
@@elektra-theradiant8144 drew the design up. Never got round to designing it
@@sumvs5992 ah, thanks, didnt know that
"Oh my God humans were so stupid. Like they couldn't even use a nuclear missle against Napoleon? Not a single machinegun against Tamerlane. Couldn't they use a few predeator drones against Alexander?
Amazing point.
"Like why didnt ninjas overthrow the shogun or something"
"i'm an idiot i should've used my death ray"
-the ottomans to the winged hussars
The fact that the Ninjas didn't use pump shotguns to blow away all the Samurai just proves how stupid and incompetent they really were.
Teh_Vasraf You imbecile, nothing can defeat Tamerlane and his armies, not even an atom bomb would destroy him. Know this peasant, nothing can defeat the great turkic warriors from the steppes. Uzbek blood runs through Tamerlane’s veins, which means he’s superior above all other humans, and immortal.
Many have tried, the Ottomans, the Golden Horde, those sister-fuckers from India, the hairy iranians who rebelled against their mongol rulers... and they were all defeated by the great Tamerlane!
UZBEKISTAN! FUCK YES!!! WE ARE SUPERIOR!! WE ARE CONQUERORS!!!!!!
I think this is an official "bruh momentum".
momentvm brvh
Brvhwvs Momenvs Magnvs
bruh
Bruh sound effect #2
Smhing my head
"They should've worn armour"
Brandon: These rustics are so inept.
Nearly takes the honor out of responding to their video...nearly
@@EthanDarke laughs in british
Hahaha, made me laugh pretty hard
What armor reacter
@@brianstabile165 no Armor is best armor.
Just a British soldier in front of his high end gaming system, nothing out of the ordinary here.
What are you talking about, he single-handedly invented modern electronics when someone saw that the Battle of New Orleans happened after the war of 1812 officially ended, and asked why they didn’t just use the internet.
I mean the british do still have soldiers 😂
You know what?
...
Someone ought to recommend this to Ashtyn & Jon to react to.
Let the circle of violence commence!
I'm not going them the $8 though.
I’ve watched a few of their videos and they wouldn’t even react to the whole video just 10 mins of it you would need to send them a lot more for them to react to more of it 😂
@@Brynn_Wood It's up to $20 now per 10 minutes.
@@stnarud Hey, 20 bucks for 10 minutes of stupidity is a bargain. I admit I'm a bit upset I never figured out how to get money for dumb. Seems like an easy grift
To be fair, they can charge for their time. What surprises me is how much cash people are willing to pay them as much as they do. Most of the videos they react to have been reacted to by others, and no one has to pay a penny.
"I think the cat is the most entertaining thing so far."
-Brandon F., April 9th, 2019
I mean, he's not wrong.
*colorized*
That the Stars and Bars or the Flag of the State of Georgia?
*Shane Dawson sweats nervously*
Shit why i just disliked kill me plz
future historians like them: Omg why were people then so dumb couldnt they just use rail guns and super soldiers?
I mean they had no space marines, and these heritcs did not worship the God emperor of mankind.
@CIA BETA Wing *Tau
Rail guns are old tech
Why didn’t they all use lightsabers or blasters?
@@mitchellgeorge6031 Yeah, they had lightspeed, magic, and planet destroying weaponry "a long time ago", _obviously_ they would have even more advanced technology than that.
Ashtyn: "why they just put all armor"
Napoleon: "Ah yes. Let's just melt all the iron of the Empire and manufacture TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND BREASTPLATES and handed over to the infantry of the grand armée. I think i don't need those cannons anymore"
Apparently breastplates were so uncomfortable and often impractical that they were abandoned by the Austrian army until Napoleon came along.
I've read about French sappers in the Napoleonic era that did wear some armor, mostly just a cuirass and a helmet, but given they were high-value targets in a siege, it seems to be a reasonable fear.
I don't have too many sources, unfortunately, much less how common this was, but they seemed to have existed at least.
@@baronprocrastination1722 indeed, but they are only a fraction of the grand armée, and specialists, like modern combat engineers, so it's make sense
@@baronprocrastination1722 cuirass and helmets were used for the heavy cavalry especially most useful in cavalry engagements.
The romans had half the army and it nearly ruined them to give all those men armor, napoleon has to worry about ammunition, and armor might not even stop shot. Save armor for sappers and cuirassiers.
True.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
But why didn't the British just use SMGs?
So dumb.
Edit:
Dear God, I was only joking!
Did she really just say that?!
True, dat.
LOL, the moment you realize your sarcastic joke is real
Lol, americas future be like XD
Ha! Yknow this isn't as stupid as that time my classmate said "well why didn't the british use a bazooka or something to shoot up the German fighter planes?"
I think he was also German on one side too
This is why I felt that the (relatively) growing popularity of certain channels focused on history is both a blessing and a curse. On the one hand, it's amazing to see people becoming more interested in history, but on the other hand, there are inevitably going to be less knowledgable people who are going to leech off this success and perpetuate historical inaccuracies, whether intentionally or not.
Leeches are going to prevail, no matter what. They will feast on anything that bears fruit. So, the growing popularity is a blessing.
I don't find The Armchair Historian to be an example to follow to any degree. Perhaps a channel like TIK (a year or so ago, to be precise, when he wasn't as compromised by politics and was busting some bang-up misconceptions) or The_Chieftain (though it's a bit unfair to compare TAH to channels like the Chief and Ian McCollum at ForgottenWeapons). Thersites the Historian deserves a bigger viewership by far, a focus on the information itself and not ad revenue and snappy production value.
Snapshot channels like Kings and Generals and Historigraph - and the god of the squares 'Historia_Civilis' these are the people to emulate. Armchair Historian is one step above Simple History as far as I'm concerned. If you're new to this whole 'history' thing that's fine, great place to start - they do nothing else besides that and collect their ad revenue and milk their Patreon subscribers. I was very let down by the Armchair Historian channel, if you didn't already guess. Didn't start that way.
Those people have had shows on the history channel for years with no one challenging their viewpoints
Even channels like Military History Visualized started creating more shallow content just to gain popularity (its good for him but its bad for the ones that desire deeper knowledge). His videos have been all over the place - the Mongols, Frederic The Great, WW2. To me that whole trend shows once again that reading on my own is always better.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 TIK is still a top quality channel despite his videos on politics. I just separate them from his WW2 videos because the amount of research he does is astounding. I know what it is to have more than 50k words of notes on a topic so to me it shows his dedication to present useful knowledge to his viewers.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn Napoleon said something like: "Amateurs discuss tactics, professionals discuss logistics."
I thought that was Rommel, but I could be mistaken.
...And Gods discuss politics, if I have learned something of history is that it can turn a war on his head with a table. That quote would sound more epic.
That was neither napoleon, nor Erwin Rommel.
It was a US Marine Corps general, I unfortunatley cant recall the name of, but his position somewhat excuse his inaccurate statement.
Neither tactics nor logistics are worth much without the other.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 General Omar Bradley. Double checked sir.
@@ihittennis7032 sadly I’ve found it credited to many people
Imagine carrying armour as well as your musket rifle and two pistols.
please nerf
And a sabre and two artillery pieces tied to both of your legs
I am confused by "musket rifle". Those are two different things. Are you referring to a smoothbore musket or a long gun with a rifled barrel (i.e a rifle)?
Dillon Honore it’s a reference to another video on this channel where he talks about an extremely inaccurate history book. One that refers to muskets as “musket rifles”.
@@Cybermat47 Ah, apologies then.
gosh people were such idiots in the 90s when they used Nokia bricks instead of smartphones
I’d rather use a Nokia brick than a smartphone doesn’t break so easily אלון איזקס
Yes...they were. That's why a lot died in the 90s. Stupidity will get you a bullet in life, especially in the streets.
Why did people use horse and carriages in the 1800s lol like just buy a car
Nokia has nothing to do with this, I use a nokia to write this. Its just that American people have the IQ of a goldfish.
Trevor Phillips As an American: Americans as individuals aren’t the problem. It’s the education we have. Don’t blame the American individuals that you think are stupid; blame the American education system they were born into - the individuals had no choice in the matter.
You should do more of these.
mr beat
Because of your channel my sister pooped her whole butt out of her entire butt, you essentially ruined her life
omg mr breast give me money
edit:this is obviously satire
Wow only 3 comments?
@@Xxsnipedawg72xX Is there some hidden meaning here…?
Sometime in the 17 hundreds:
“Hey, what if we just used guns that didn’t need us to reload?”
“That is a great idea! How do we make them?”
“..........hm, good question. Maybe we should figure that out first.”
Ha ha
They already had revolvers all the way back in the 16th century. It's just that such weapons didn't really become safe or reliable enough until metal cartridges came around in the mid-19th century.
@@LafayetteCCurtis Black powder revolvers proved highly effective in both the American Civil War and the various Mexican and Indian campaigns by the US before and after the Civil War
@@filmandfirearms Those wars and campaigns were in the mid-19th century.
@@LafayetteCCurtisThey did pre-date the wide-scale adoption of self-contained metallic cartridges though
When Ashtyn and Jon start talking about, "Why didn't they wear armor?" Frustration level went to 25% to 100000%
Cuirassier: Am I a joke to you?
(laughs bitterly in 30 Years War pikeman)
Every time thay opened there mouth I died a little inside
Modern soldiers: am I a joke to you?
true
Y’know I was planning to make a joke like ‘If they weren’t stupid they should’ve just used nukes on London’ but then the girl made the machine gun comment & now my joke seems on par with something she would say.
If she'd been around back then, she woulda conquered the entire universe!
why don't nazi germay just air drop king tigers into moscow
@@kameradin8964 At least king tigers were invented xD
@@mathias6542 FINE
WhY DiDn'T GERmAnY UsE HOvEr TanKs
@@kameradin8964 OoF dADdY
I love these two, especially their historical reactions - sheer comedy gold!
So, basically, their ideal soldier would be wearing full 16th century plate armour, armed wirh an AK47, and hiding behind a tree! Genius!
Viet Cong Knights, one of history’s greatest warriors
@@eazy8579 WHO IS... THE DEADLIEST WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!
TOP 10 DEADLIEST WARRIORS!!!!
A weapon to surpass metal gear
SmokedComa84 nanomachines?
It’s absolutely insane to me that channels focusing on history can even make the smallest mistake in regards to any potential copyright law and have their work taken down. And yet, these people are essentially stealing their videos and making boatloads of money off of them. It’s criminal. Thank you for putting these hacks in their place. If only TH-cam had the same integrity
Back in the 14th century they had the saying "if you want to train an archer, start with his grandfather" to show how long it took to train archers
I would so much like to steal that! Could you please tell me the source for that, it has such a ring of truth!
And if you want a soldier start with his grandson
6:28 redcoat gaming
edit: Ashtyn makes Jon look like the greatest military mind of the 18th Century
“Ya.
Ya.
True.
Ya, I know that.
Tru
Ya, I always knew that.
Ya ya.
Yup
Ya ok.
Duh.
Obviously “
- Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.
These fools are not only bound but *bounding*
some fake video:"and the continental army used ak-47s to mow down the british at the final battle, if it was not for that invention the british would've won"
Ashtyn&Jon (who don't know anything): ya ya, i know they did that
@@julianmoreno6817 thats we call history morons XD i mean Ashtyn & Jon wada wada
@@julianmoreno6817 oh and the British army won the French and 7 Indian years wars by inventing nukes
Ashtyn makes me embarrassed to be a history loving female. Lord have mercy!
She makes Jon look like Napoleon.
Dary You’re a mirage,your type doesn’t exist
@@reynanlamsen2007 ...you're right...
*slowly starts fading away*
@My Moni is XD f
@KGB Agent Ivan F
Ashty and Jon: Speaks.
Brandon: *I WILL RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE!*
Yeah, he was chopping at them harder than Benjamin Martin with a hatchet.
I must say it is odd hearing Brandon say things like "Cringe video" and "meme
I know… it doesn’t seem natural to me
It’s a bit Farb if you ask me
feels like an actual 19th century British saying "Cringe" and "meme"
It’s odd hearing him say anything in that fake affected accent.
Because it's a anachronism
Brandon F. never films himself from the waist-down because he hates wearing pants and actually does his videos in his underwear
#conspiracytheories
It's not that he hates pants, it's that - like Pewdiepie - he doesn't have legs.
Sam Beck has it right. I only ever put my legs on for reenactments.
360Nomad TH-camrs already explained this.
They don't do it bcuz they don't have legs.
He's like Pewdiepie, he had no legs.....
True that.
British Redcoat is brought back to the world in 2019, colorized.
Spanish empire reunited
"so dumb"
Ms Ashtyn, 20xx, probably talking about herself
People where like so stupid back then. Why didn't they just make AR 15s? I mean like they had metal and junk to make it out of.
Edit: I just finished watching and this aged too well.
British MI6 Operator supports an American SOG Agent in a Black Operation (Sometime in the 20th Century, colorized)
Don't be ridiculous... The american is obvious a loyalist during the american revolution
Captured Redcoat subjected to Colonial propaganda in an attempt to crush his spirit. Courised ad1777.
*Minuetmen gets ready to shoot a RedCoat 1775*
20:03 german Generals listening to hitler declaring Berlin can be saved- 1945
Goebbels maintained optimism during the siege of Berlin, or at least I'm fairly sure of it. After all, it was his job as the Reich minister of propoganda
Calvary: a place
Cavalry: horse-mounted soldiers that have been used in warfare in virtually every era, yes even modern (I heard the Polish had cavalry by the time the Second World War started)
The US used them in Afghanistan
Cavalry, if not horse-mounted, was definitely used into WW2 and beyond. Horse cavalry was used for reconnaissance and transporting troops, which would dismount and fight from there. You can call them horse-mounted infantry like you would call ones transported by trucks mounted.
@@JohnsonTheSecond the cia had a cavalry charge performed in Afghanistan
@@joehayes9933 not only that, but the Chinese still train large groups of horse-cavalry in sword drill (atleast according to some sources i have read) for mountain warfare (where cavalry are the only reliable fast moving troop)
Indeed they did. The Poles, for example, used rifles and anti-tank rifles as their primary cavalry arms. However, at Krojanty and other isolated incidents, they actually charged mounted with saber when they could catch infantry unaware. And sometimes they actually did quite well.
The greatest resistance to the Japanese attack on Luzon came from the 26th cavalry, mostly Filipinos armed with rifles moving on horseback. Under their commander Edwin Ramsey, they actually performed a successful cavalry charge (with pistols instead of sabers) at Morong as the US army fell back to Bataan.
That woman has not heard of the battle of Agincourt or the expensiveness of armor
She probably doesn't even know about France.
Is that, like, the court of Agin?
The armour worked in Agincourt, it was the combination of dead horses and mud that caused the French to lose.
@@bloodypine22 Dead horses, mud, the French losing, sounds like a good time.
Yeah, well, if the French just like waited for the English attackers in the trees, and, you know, used guerilla tactics and machine guns, they tottaly would have won.
"Bullets were just pure circles" minié ball: am I a joke to you
To be fair, Minié balls are post Napoleonic and he is talking about muskets, not rifles, so he isn't that far off.
The minié ball wasn’t around for the Napoleonic Wars and the American War Of Independence
Mr terry is the only history reaction channel that has any clue as to what he’s saying. He’s a teacher after all
Thomas Dillon And if he doesn’t, he will actually say that he’s not an expert on it.
May I also suggest social stud probably not as good as mr tarry but still good
Vlogging Through History is pretty good too.
@@gguy3600 VTH didn't exist back in the ancient days 3 years ago so
@Iron Brandon didn’t live in the 18th Century so why are you willing to take his word over VTH’s? Just say you hate professional historians who frankly know more than you.
Give her a break. The point of her existence is to make others feel superior, and she excels at the position!
An unsung hero to my mental well-being.
Agree
Bet she excels in a few positions.
Shes there as wank fodder
That statement about trees and guerrilla warfare, presumes you could always choose your Battlefields.
WhY nOt jUsT UsE pArATrOOPers AgiANsT NaPoLeOn
plus muskets being wildly inaccurate
@@Hanakowasright yep, he probably belives Just because he would use cover he then would become a sniper.
@@kameradin8964 I ThInK tHeY wHeRe aLl DuMb, wHy just they UsEd MG'S, they wanna Win right??
trees and cover were use very effectively in the revolution but that cause how much wood the Americas had a the time period a lot of forest were pretty fresh compare to Europe who needed a huge amount of lumber. Now when possible they did fire from fix fortification that included some trenches. The problem was as brandon stated you can not always find the perfect ground or have the time to build those up. Unless there was something an army must have they simply march around some of those heavy forts. and if they were fix were truly needed. They had the cannons. Lots of cannons. @@Hickokboy
Try watching their reaction to the ending battle scene in zulu. It’s enough to make you weep
They feel sorry for the "African Americans" 😂
Just "African", my dear;)
Oh, my. I can only imagine...why do people recommend these things to them?
@@BrandonF boredom?
@@BrandonF I get the idea that people just recommend them things that they know will lead to one dumb reaction as it goes over their head
"Muskets where not that strong"
I've seen many history museums that show armer that has had a musket ball punched through it. the piece of lead IS LUANCHED BY A FRICKN EXPLOSION IN THE GUN I'd say thats pretty powerful.
.75 caliber. It's slow, but it's got a lot of mass.
We wore some armour in the English civil war, but that didn’t always stop a musket ball punching through it.
Steel armour is just very bad against musket shots (A musket shot was much heavier and bigger, enough to shatter a whole steel armour in one shot)
@@redbalmy2865 still French cuirass cavalry still wear armor.
@@koreancowboy42 yeah to stop swords
@@jimbob465 yes it's meant to stop anything from stabbing or slashing at the waist and chest. Especially during cavalry charges against another cavalry or infantry.
It's why they still worn them.
Iv seen several of their videos. They are genuinely interested in these subjects [the man at least] but unforntunatley, they aren't the smartest idiots in the asylum
Right? I always watch their stuff to see if they’ll learn or add something, but they never do
Really?
I've watched 2 or 3 of their videos and Jon at least tries (badly) to do something.
Ashtyn just sits there looking bored.
I really don't understand why people would give them money, I had more fun having my tooth removed by the dentist.
I have watched a few of their videos. Ashtyn always looks like she really does not want to be there and is not remotely interested in what they are watching. They are painful to watch.
@@Davey-Boyd yeah, Jon at least looks interested and tries to add to it. He shows some ability to reason things out. Not very well, but at least a bit.
Ashtyn is just, painfully dumb, and just sits there looking miserable.
I agreed. Ash needs to be out of them videos.
She doesn't seem that interesting in general.
Jon....... could use some more work if he tends to speak or comment on the videos being reacted to.
Also she can't even form her sentences like holy hell... either you learn to speak or don't bother talking XD.
She struggled to even say why don't they wear armor and explain herself. Like everyone here probably lost brain cells watching them talk about why didn't they wear armor and what not.
The French cavalry did wear chest plates but not all of them did due to its only on a specific cavalry unit.
Why do people donate to those two. It's like here let's spoil these two just for the hell of it and this Jason dude wasting his own life money for two idiots.
They don't even have their names mentioned and not even a thank you.
People who I've donated to
Jackie Fish (a total war player and my favorite youtuber along side Pixelatwd apollo both makes good content too for gamers)
TheVMPShow a mount and blade player (very good content and fun to watch for me)
"I have fired a musket many many times! And I have never hit a thing!" -Brandon proudly claims...
I have fired a E-11 many many times and I have never hit a thing!
@@501ststormtrooper9 laser muskets dont count.
@@501ststormtrooper9 aren’t you supposed to be the elite?
@@TN-ci4ox No, half of us died in a massive explosion.
@@TN-ci4ox They are. However said elite troops are usually thrown against heroes with high tier plot armor.
"They were inaccurate."
"How dare you say they were inaccurate!
They were inaccurate. "
Shame on anyone who has paid to hear someone say "Tru dat"
19:56 watch as stephen hawking gets mad at these two humans
Omg. LMAO
Hahaha
Leninade is amazing. Haven't had one in years
Lmao
Not gonna lie he kinda looks like young Stephen hawking
Those glasses must really help. All I saw was a black screen.
The second monitor is a little off centre!
LOL.
LOL, I didn’t notice the second monitor till he pointed it out either
This girl’s reactions sounds like "If you are homeless, just by a house..."
Its an interesting point, when Ashtyn talks about armor. On one hand you have Ashtyn who thinks, "why didnt they use armor thats dumb" and yet without anymore information than she has Jon is already thinking of reasons why they wouldnt.
It shows two different thought processes which clearly shows an intelligence gap between them. Like most of us who would wonder why they didnt have armor would think, "well maybe metal wasnt that cheap and youd need a lot of it to stop a musket, plus it would only be at best protecting the chest, plus it would be very heavy and soldiers back then didnt have trucks to carry them around they had to march. etc etc most people naturally think "well im sure they had reasons for not using armor" whereas people like Ashtyn assume that everyone else is just dumb and shed have ruled the world with her musket knights lol
That's a good point. Jon clearly isn't stupid. He's capable of reasoning. He just doesn't have the necessary information to really know what he's talking about.
Ashtyn on the other hand....has huge tracts of land.
i actually thought the same thing lol
She probably doesn't have nearly the amount of exposure to that kind of thing he does. Pretending that "intelligence" is an objective, quantifiable thing and treating lack of it like it's some kind of moral failing is, ironically enough, awfully ignorant.
Her only reasoning is "Everyone's dumb" when everyone in that time period was probably smarter than her considering she acts like they haven't thought about it.
I don't think it's so much an intelligence gap as a patience gap. Jon seems to willing to pause and try to speculate on things, whereas Ashtyn has _zero_ patience with anything she's not acquainted with.
I think thoes two made me lose half my brain capacity ;_;
And still they make more money doing this than I do working a normal job. Tragic :(
@@Zoey-- Money laundering? (Not you, them).
Aren't you the guy who poo'd his whole butt out of his entire butt
@@Zoey-- Hey, another Zoey.
And yeah, they get way too much. I have seen decent reactors that actually do add to the content through actually pausing and talking quite a fair deal. They don't deserve money, but there are definitely ones that I find fine, and enjoy due to enjoying seeing people enjoying shows that I love. A major reason I like Lets Plays as well.
But these two really don't, they just stare in silence most of the timeline. And get thousands of dollars. Its dumb.
I'm more surprised you even watch them XD
20:39 British high command recieving the news of the crushing defeat at Isandlwana
Sounds correct.
Ashtyn & Jon: "Why wouldn't they wear armour?"
Seventeenth Century Soldiers: "We did!"
Wow, to be so dense to think that militaries got dumber and dropped the use of armour by the end of the 17th century for no reason...
technically heavy cavalry still wore armour well into the 19th century. hell french heavy cavalry wore them into ww1.
Von Bredow's death ride accidentally gave a good impression
Also Seventeenth Century Soldiers: "And it made us big fat targets for their musketeers, so we dropped them and pick a musket instead."
24:33 "Marching 10, 15, 20 miles." Well a Zulu regiment can run, RUN 50 miles and fight a battle at ze end of it.
"And who the hell do you think is coming to wipe out your little command? The Grenadier Guards?"
Jesus Christ I’ve never felt so much pain watching a video of people reacting to a video in my entire life.
Also if these people aren’t careful Brandon might colonize them.
Well if that person has a flag they might be safe.
colonize them.... If you know what i mean ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Colonise is such a strong term. I prefer the term "enforced opium trade deals".
@@Lv-sl3rm remove the flag
no flag
colonize
19:02 Every second I listen I can feel more and more of my brain cells dying and I simply cannot bear the agony of being forced to having to force my ears to bear such a disgraceful noise.
Kim Kardashian Voice: *BUT THEY DINT USE ARMOOOUUUURRRR*
20:06 here we see brandon f visibly dying inside. for a good minute or so.
Can you blame The man? I certainly Don't.
"Petty? Yes. Silly? Very. Fun? Almost."
This, sir, is why I like every video before I watch them.
Their comments about armor were painful to listen to. Never mind the fact that individual soildiers in WW1 WW2 and I believe Korea didn't wear armor either for a lot of the same reasons. And its not like they didn't try either. Attempts were made in WW1 that didnt pan out. The flak jackets of WW2 were too bulky for a soldier on the frontline and were mostly given Air and Naval Personnel. Flak jackets were not adopted by frontline personnel until Vietnam from what I recall, and to call them bulletproof would be a bit of a stretch.
Hence the term Flak Jacket, it's not made for stopping you getting shot, it's made so you can survive better if a grenade or light explosive goes off in your face.
@@Seriona1 A fair point. I should have probably gone into a little more detail.
@@grizzlyburn160Well to be fair, it's a common misconception about the armor. I am sure it can stop some small arm calibers but the purpose was due to how warfare changed with guerilla warfare hence why the jacket became useful. While the US did experience a bit of guerilla warfare in WWII and Korea, it wasn't until Vietnam where the enemy specifically Viet Cong made use of light explosives.
@@Seriona1 Funny enough i was going to mention how i still sometimes use the terms "flak" and "bulletproof" interchangeably, but I was sure if it was that big of a misconception, or I was just an idiot. Feels good to know the only idiots here are Ashtyn and Jon. More Ashtyn than Jon in this particular video.
They are dumb, watch their video of D-day from Saving Private Ryan. It hurts. I think the Flak Jacket is technically bulletproof to a degree but it's not going to stop large caliber fire but I think NATO doesn't issue them for this reason, it's to help against light explosive. Like safety glass on your car, it can stop bullets, it's not designed for it.
One interesting aspect of the Longbow vs Musket discussions I seldom see is about Janissaries: they were professional soldiers (as in, had soldiery as a full-time occupation) and were trained since a very young age to do so. Nevertheless, they used firearms instead of bows. I think that is a clear sign that whichever advantages the bows presented, military commanders of the time regarded firearms as superior.
Medieval Warriors: use swords and bows
These idiots: why didn’t they just use machine guns and tanks. They were so stupid
Hey Siri when was the machine gun made
The first machine guns were created in the 1860s-1890s
It is quite comical seeing a foot soldier wear modern headphones 10/10 👌
Imperator Salt Formerly LMS 5588 they are actually 1815 style earmuffs standard issue for the troops in the Orkney islands
Didn't hear the tank
Love the picture of the Tiger I in your profile picture
British soldier listening to american communications 1775 colorized
AThrowableKnight it’s 131 in bovington with me vape nayshing in the front
That brilliant princess couldn't survive a week in the 1930s, let alone the 18th century.
How *could* she survive? WITHOUT MAKEUP?!
@@groherzogtummapping867 makeup is thousands of years old.
@@lukatomas9465 It's called a joke. And also, makeup may have existed back then but was limited in accessibility, usually only nobles could even afford it.
ATAHistory EN in the 1930s, makeup was accessible to most women. Even in the 19th century, there was at least some makeup most women could access.
Let's be honest she could... now I'm not too sure... get... small pox?
I love how Ashtyn struggled to remember what a machine gun is called and had to ask Jon for help.
“I think they were all stupid. They should have had…um…what’s it called? The one that keeps going?”
“……………….Machine guns?”
“Yeah.”
Ryan is actually their history teacher and he just wanted them to study for exam they had
They're like a case study for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Ashtyn & Jon aren't exactly the most intellectual of channels, I've never actually seen them actually say anything worthwhile, they don't even seem to understand the content they are viewing in any way. it gets even worse with the warhammer 40k videos when you can tell they don't have any clue what they are talking about. the only reaction channel I watch, every now and then, are the renegades who actually discuss topics similar to the videos, their reaction video to "what if the purge was real" causes an in depth discussion about anarchy and world governments. whereas Ashtyn and Jon just sit there.
They.,.have 40k video reactions? Oh, for the love of the Omnissiah....
@@BrandonF yes, don't watch them. they are rage inducing.
@@BrandonF truly, don't, it feels as if you brain had an orkoid spore infection...
Yeah, I think the Renegades can be pretty cool to watch. Or similar videos where the video is so much more than the reaction part, so there is atleast something other than the original video going into it.
I found them through British comedy reactions. They miss basic context clues and blame cultural differences for not understanding jokes, it's amusing.
Though the history of war or Warhammer lore is a lost cause for sure.
It's funny to think but in 200 years we're probably gonna have people reacting to today like "omg why didn't they use energy shields",
“Why don’t they just use armour” *soldier struggling to move around in 3 inch thick steel armour*
I know this is a joke, but three inches of metal armor sounds too thick even for tanks lol.
Oh no if you look at tanks even a Sherman would blow that out of the water with up to 7 inches of steel plating in places, a heavier or more modern tank? Even the lighter armour is probably thicker than that
French Heavy cavalry Cuirass: am I a joke to you?
@Korean cowboy 42
They had horses. That’s different.
20:13 When you order all your cavalry to charge at unsuspecting infantry, you then pay attention to another side of the map. When you go back to check on them they have all shattered because the infantry moved into square formation. RIP Brandon, we were all brought to pure terror and anguish when hearing what they had to say about armour.
Empire and Napoleon Total War fams will know how relatable that is...
@@groherzogtummapping867 Dragoons are best as mounted infantry for hit and runs, trust me, the charges aren't worth it
@@bobbemis8911 Yeah, but I had been learning to play cav in Medieval II, so my style of cav play is pretty much outdated in Empire. Also I can't see how useful can a unit of 60 infantrymen be.
Honestly I just prefer to use light dragoons, they work more like mounted lines and don't need to unmount in order to shoot. They fit my style of multiplayer gameplay better, and in single cav is useless anyway. At least from what I managed to observe in my prettu short 100 hours of gameplay.
@@groherzogtummapping867 Dragoon were mounted infantry.
@@lukatomas9465 You're simplifying it a lot. Besides, I'm talking about a game called Total War EMPIRE (and NAPOLEON by proxy)
Brandon F. is the one who donated $750 to Ashtyn&Jon so they would make a video about The Armchair Historian, thus re-propelling him back into relevance and giving Brandon an excuse to make a pedantic video about them.
#conspiracytheories
Shut up
Shhh, not too loudly!
Brandon F. Have you seen Sharpe? Horn blower? If so, what do you think about these two series?
I want to believe.
@@sheagillis3765 He has made a number of, often not exactly fawning, comments on Sharpe. So that is a for sure yes. I have not seen him comment on Hornblower though.
"The cat is the most entertaining thing so far." Brandon delivers the facial! He is hanging from the rim, with no regard for human life!
The cat is the real hero of the video.
7:00 that "Ryan, why?" absolutely killed me
"...the bookshelf behind you, with antique books that you've never actually read, but they certainly make you feel very important?"
Never have truer and more relatable words been spoken.
There speaks the anti-intellectual, glorying in ignorance. Better not to project your own inadequacies in reading on to others.
Mmm the subtlety in the insults. Feels good man.
An interesting thing is that I actually have diary entries from my great grand uncle who was a Canadian soldier in the Great War. He joined up in 1915 and there are entries in it where he is talking about not having enough food or that the food is in very poor condition. It's interesting to think about that soldiers from the Revolutionary War or even as recent as the Great War were plagued with hunger at one time or another. I mean he was lucky that in some of the entries he mentions that his family members sent him sweets with which to pass the time, but I couldn't imagine the feeling of going hungry in war like that or eating crap quality food.
"I'll just stay at home" (cannon blows up house)
4:55
750 dollars...
And grampa keeps telling me hard work is the best way to get rich...
That's more than I make in a good week, and that's before taxes!
You need audacity, a good ability to speak publicly, and con people, and no small amount of luck, to get away with something like this.
I think another point about the bayonet, is that bayonets were often used after the gun has been fired, and thus empty.
Plugging the barrel of an empty gun, especially a musket, doesn't make the gun less effective any more than putting pants on a dead skunk helps the stench.
normally when order to fix Bayonet the enemy is danger close. Otherwise you have time time to reload for one more volley. So by that time you may not need to fire again. but with the improvement it allow to fix it sooner not wasting time for them to get closer.. if they start to flee or find time to reload you can without removing it. but like Brandon said stuff like that just don't happen. Its kind of like the remote. Ashley would look at the tv and wonder why there nob to change the channel when you can use the remote. Cause princess the tech for the remote haven't been invented and the idea on how to crafted haven't been thought about as it was being invented. Gawd hearing her make me wonder if she even went to school.
@@Marveryn also it's interesting some tactics used against plug bayonet were false charges which could be quite deadly
During the armour conversion my jaw is legitimately dropped, right as they said that a musket ball is not as good at piercing as modern day. Because it is at least regarding the heat of the musket ball penetrating any metal on such “armour”.
Also, black powder is supposed to have more chemical energy than smokeless powder used these days...
In absolutely no way do muskets and round ball projectiles have anywhere near the penetration of modern rounds. Especially against things like steel.
@@firstname4097 however..... smokeless powder is better than black powder. Since smokeless powder is more controlled burn rather than black powder which burns instantly. And black powder creates more smoke which blinds your view the more and more you shoot especially in vast volleys of muskets.
I was so happy to find myself so invested in this cauldron abandoned in Napoleonic Spain, that I had completely forgotten about Jon and Ashtyon.❤