Your comment early in the episode about showing people what they didn't have the opportunity to see stood out to me. Having been asked several times recently why I choose to photograph small song birds, that is basically what I've come up with. You'd never see those amazing little details in real life. Enjoyed the episode as usual. It's a beautiful photo!
Great point, and it’s why your images are so amazing to me. I’ve never seen, and may never see in person, the beautiful birds you photograph. They are so special for that reason. Thanks, as always!
What a stunning shot! I listened to the podcast version on my drive home, but I had to check out the photo here in a larger format. I fell in love with photography when I was young by taking photos at the Abbotsford International Airshow and aviation photography still excites me! Must be incredible to shoot air to air. 😊
Thanks for watching, as always. I kept thinking while we were chatting how many people shoot air shows like you. Brett’s air to air stuff is soooo good.
Some weeks ago I shot Mi-24 helicopters on an air display with my EOS 5D mk iii, EF 70-200 f2.8 lens at 1/125s but at least 90% of all shots were blurry which was very frustrating when I checked in Lightroom. Found out, until ~1/400 s the rotors were still blurry and more likely to get sharp (with max. aperture ~8 or 9) and max ISO lower than 800. Is it my lens though, or is it normal succesion rate or do I need to practice panning a bit more?
So, there are so many variables here that answering the question with certainty is near impossible. First of all, the 5D3 with the 70-200 2.8 is more than capable of that shoot. That said, I’m not surprised at the only 10% hit rate. 1/125 simply isn’t fast enough. If you want to shoot at around f/8, and you need a shutter of 1/600 to 1/1000, then you’ll need to turn up the ISO. I’m not sure why you’re fixed on 800 or less. I shot concerts with a 5D3 at 3200 every show. Ignore the noise. If the worst thing someone says is your shot is noisy then everything else - composition, sharpness, exposure - all the technical stuff is done well. Noise doesn’t matter as much as people think. The greatest images of a generation are noisy as hell. So use an ISO that in combo with your aperture will allow you to get the shutter you need. Now, then you can play with slower shutters and / or lower ISO, and practice better panning. Again, without being there with you no answer is a definitive one. Good luck.
@@BehindTheShot Thanks I'm still in the experimenting phase and try to find a good compromise with my settings. Sadly there are no airshows every day:-) My problem with the noise is that you lose details after de-noising so I want to reduce it to a minumum. I also think, I found out spot metering is less accurate than 5 spots metering. Will be my next mission to try both to compare
@FriesyRider so a few things, first, people do too much denoise, so yeah you’ll some detail, but done correctly not that much. Selective edits are always better. Good denoise apps are also better than builtin LR denoise. topaz AI Denoise Ali’s great and hold details well. This is a conversation I’ve had many times, and the answer is still people worry about it too much. I shoot shows at over 10,000 ISO at times and don’t denoise at all. Your mentioning Spot Meter, and then 5 spot meter, which is confusing. Metering is Spot, Partial, Evaluative etc. there a single point AF or 5 or 9 point AF but nothing is called 5 point meter. It’s very important to understand that Spot meter on a 5 series camera ALWAYS meters of the center point only. If you move your focus point up and to a side it won’t meter there. The spot meter does NOT follow the focus point on a 5 series body. Also, I’d use the 5 of 9 point AF Assist focus mode, with AF Case #4 I think for what you’re shooting.
@@BehindTheShot Hi, yes I meant 5 point AF (I´m German, so sometimes not so specific with my English vocab :-) Thanks for the explanation, well appreciated
@FriesyRider I totally get that, and I happen to be in Munich at the moment, so I’m experiencing the other direction - my German is non-existent. Hahaha. Good luck.
Your comment early in the episode about showing people what they didn't have the opportunity to see stood out to me. Having been asked several times recently why I choose to photograph small song birds, that is basically what I've come up with. You'd never see those amazing little details in real life.
Enjoyed the episode as usual. It's a beautiful photo!
Great point, and it’s why your images are so amazing to me. I’ve never seen, and may never see in person, the beautiful birds you photograph. They are so special for that reason.
Thanks, as always!
@@BehindTheShot And that's why I share them. It's great knowing that they bring pleasure to more than just myself. Thanks for the kind words!
How cool is that. You guys just keep living the dream.
What a stunning shot! I listened to the podcast version on my drive home, but I had to check out the photo here in a larger format. I fell in love with photography when I was young by taking photos at the Abbotsford International Airshow and aviation photography still excites me! Must be incredible to shoot air to air. 😊
Thanks for watching, as always. I kept thinking while we were chatting how many people shoot air shows like you. Brett’s air to air stuff is soooo good.
Some weeks ago I shot Mi-24 helicopters on an air display with my EOS 5D mk iii, EF 70-200 f2.8 lens at 1/125s but at least 90% of all shots were blurry which was very frustrating when I checked in Lightroom.
Found out, until ~1/400 s the rotors were still blurry and more likely to get sharp (with max. aperture ~8 or 9) and max ISO lower than 800.
Is it my lens though, or is it normal succesion rate or do I need to practice panning a bit more?
So, there are so many variables here that answering the question with certainty is near impossible. First of all, the 5D3 with the 70-200 2.8 is more than capable of that shoot. That said, I’m not surprised at the only 10% hit rate. 1/125 simply isn’t fast enough. If you want to shoot at around f/8, and you need a shutter of 1/600 to 1/1000, then you’ll need to turn up the ISO. I’m not sure why you’re fixed on 800 or less. I shot concerts with a 5D3 at 3200 every show. Ignore the noise. If the worst thing someone says is your shot is noisy then everything else - composition, sharpness, exposure - all the technical stuff is done well. Noise doesn’t matter as much as people think. The greatest images of a generation are noisy as hell. So use an ISO that in combo with your aperture will allow you to get the shutter you need. Now, then you can play with slower shutters and / or lower ISO, and practice better panning.
Again, without being there with you no answer is a definitive one. Good luck.
@@BehindTheShot Thanks
I'm still in the experimenting phase and try to find a good compromise with my settings. Sadly there are no airshows every day:-) My problem with the noise is that you lose details after de-noising so I want to reduce it to a minumum. I also think, I found out spot metering is less accurate than 5 spots metering. Will be my next mission to try both to compare
@FriesyRider so a few things, first, people do too much denoise, so yeah you’ll some detail, but done correctly not that much. Selective edits are always better. Good denoise apps are also better than builtin LR denoise. topaz AI Denoise Ali’s great and hold details well. This is a conversation I’ve had many times, and the answer is still people worry about it too much. I shoot shows at over 10,000 ISO at times and don’t denoise at all.
Your mentioning Spot Meter, and then 5 spot meter, which is confusing. Metering is Spot, Partial, Evaluative etc. there a single point AF or 5 or 9 point AF but nothing is called 5 point meter. It’s very important to understand that Spot meter on a 5 series camera ALWAYS meters of the center point only. If you move your focus point up and to a side it won’t meter there. The spot meter does NOT follow the focus point on a 5 series body.
Also, I’d use the 5 of 9 point AF Assist focus mode, with AF Case #4 I think for what you’re shooting.
@@BehindTheShot Hi, yes I meant 5 point AF (I´m German, so sometimes not so specific with my English vocab :-)
Thanks for the explanation, well appreciated
@FriesyRider I totally get that, and I happen to be in Munich at the moment, so I’m experiencing the other direction - my German is non-existent. Hahaha. Good luck.