Talking Dragon Age: The Architect

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    Welcome back to Talking Dragon Age, featuring a very tired Cole and malfunctioning audio kit. Today, we talk about the Architect. We talk a bit about his history, his character, and what he may do in the future.
    About when I mention the first battle at Vigil's Keep: I forgot to mention it's possible the Withered didn't even try to go with the Architect's plan. Seranni says all the Disciples have a bestial nature but can overcome it. There was also that darkspawn who framed humans for the attack on the elves in Wending Wood. The Architect talks about not telling him to do that in his journal. Everything else I said still stands - he did just stand there while we were fighting dragons, and we did find that one Grey Warden who had his legs broken in the Silverite mines. I find it hard to believe the Architect didn't know about him.
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  • @dewittbourchier7169
    @dewittbourchier7169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I too like it, it makes the Architect's struggles and failures poignant. Basically, consciously or not, he's crying out "I can fix this, I can fix my mistake" and he's failing. It also makes it tragic because although physically he - and Corypheus - are not physically human anymore. Emotionally, they remain very human and it is part of their unspoken anguish that they cannot be fully human anymore. Corypheus for example, is quietly heartbroken that he cannot go back into society, and that is wife and children are long dead.

    • @christineherrmann205
      @christineherrmann205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting take.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but his family is still alive, at least the protagonist Hawke if they survive Inquisition.

    • @rink7723
      @rink7723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wait what?@@channel45853

    • @xsvrrx
      @xsvrrx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how human can you really be if you lived for 1000 years though?

  • @savvypang
    @savvypang 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I always let him live just to see what impact he may have in the future.

    • @flamesofchaos13
      @flamesofchaos13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's just crazy though....Like all that risk just to see.

    • @afgusti4269
      @afgusti4269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@flamesofchaos13 just like having kieran

    • @flamesofchaos13
      @flamesofchaos13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@afgusti4269 But what if you made Kieran just to save your best friend or brother-in-arms or simply yourself? What if you made love to Morrigan because you actually care for her? What about when Kieran is a normal child made through the romance instead of the dark ritual?
      There are plenty of options where Kieran's birth isn't a risk but a justified calculated decision or simply from love itself.

    • @flamesofchaos13
      @flamesofchaos13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afgusti4269 Also I made Kieran through a mix of these choices and I spared the Architect not because of curiosity but instead through my own morals.
      In my opinion given his amnesia and altruism for his kinsmen he's not pure evil. Also I 100% agree when he said the Wardens are Killers and Genocides of an entire people. (Yes a People whether something is gross and/or evil DOESN'T negate it's personhood...They talk, They have leadership, They bleed and die for a cause yes an evil one but one none the less.) That the Wardens to create Wardens go against natrure and ideals by slaughtering the Darkspawn without question and drinking their blood...No worse magically changing it to kill others of their kind. So in fact what the Architect did was fair game given what his enemies have done against his kin.
      So it's about Honor, I don't believe it's as black and white as what was presented by Duncan. (Who murdered a MAN for simply wanting to return to his family!)
      So I guess I have a slight problem with what they said because I'm not a Romantic but instead a Moralist. Morbid Curiosity just doesn't cut it for me as any form of justification it's just unappealing to me.

    • @zsolt3871
      @zsolt3871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I like to keep him alive too. I'm also curious about what he will do in the future and I think he could be the one who saves Thedas from total annihilation. It's a big risk but that's what makes this choice really interesting.

  • @PrincessNobella
    @PrincessNobella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I spare him, and it might make a difference later (assuming) when you see him again... remember Hawk killed Corypheus and he cam back so will(probably) the Architect and his reaction to you will be according to his past interaction with the player. The story behind him to com out is tragic and I expect it to continue but I am hoping for a path of redemption for him

  • @wolfancap6897
    @wolfancap6897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In my point of view, the actions of his minions can be explained as they are not fully commited to the cause, or are still a bit sadistic, The Withered intended to talk, but as the Wardens attacked him he decided to complete the mission by force (AKA kidnapping the wardens and killing many innocents)
    But assuming that the Architect can reincarnate like Corypheous does, killing him in Awakening will only make him more pissed and decide to drop diplomacy and save his people by force, while sparing him could mean he walks away with the knolege that diplomacy is a valid option, he just needs to improve his people skills.

  • @LadyCrazyMonkeyPants
    @LadyCrazyMonkeyPants 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I tend to spare him. He woke Urthemiel up, who just so happened to be the god he worshipped back when he was human, I don't think that could be a coincidence that he went straight for Urthemiel while not having a single memory of his past. What if the Magisters Sidereal are still under the control of the Old Gods just in a more subtle way. Corypheus had his memories but Dumat was the first Old God to bring the blight and the first slain. So maybe the longer Urthemiel is gone the more memories he will regain. And in that codex entry about the others they could easily be the magister for the achdemons for blights two, three, and four. The way it talks they were in the process of regaining their memories. But then we have to get into the whole Old God baby having Urthemiel's soul and if she does have the ability to control the Architect is she purified like Morrigan seems to suggest and now could be a force for....good? Or would Urthemiel still go for the mystery goal that the Old Gods had in causing the Magisters perform the ritual?

    • @tyx8898
      @tyx8898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you think about it too, Corypheus is the first magister to be slain too, if you didn’t kill the architect.

    • @BattyButtercup
      @BattyButtercup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My theory for why the Old Gods sent the magisters into The City is that the Old Gods were similar to Kieran or Justice!Anders: they were intelligent dragons who hosted spirits.
      Upon the creation of The Veil, the separation of the Old Gods from The Fade Changed them due to the spirits within them (a Justice&Anders situation) or severed the spirits from the dragons entirely.
      The sudden physical separation from The Fade drove the Old Gods to feel empty & lonely (see Kieran & Karl begged for death rather than be "cut off" from magic again) &, as they still retained enough of a connection to The Fade to dream, the dragons sought mages to enter Arlathan/The Golden City, perhaps hoping to "move in" via Flemeth- style horcruxes they had their followers wear.
      Dragons are said to have "ruled the world". They were certainly pre-dated The Evanuris who deliberately used dragon-shifting to mark their godliness. While interaction between the evanuris/elves/others is likely - dragons are near-universally revered - I don't think dragons involved themselves much with elven or dwarven affairs & Titan-relations, pre-Veil, are a coin's toss: while Titans heavily involved themselves with dwarves, dragons seemed to collect worshippers all over but otherwise ignored others.
      Thusly, I don't think dragons knew much of The Taint or why Arlathan was sealed off. Where the Old Gods expected freedom/connection they found confusion.
      Why the dragons were underground doesn't matter much here except that, regardless of the revelation of The Blight, the Old Gods could now communicate with darkspawn & be freed physically (as theorised in another video of Kingdom's).
      I doubt any of the Old Gods enjoyed being trapped AGAIN but through The Calling. After all THAT, Utheneril's actions upon being freed from The Blight make sense: the spirit was likely deeply intertwined with its dragon by then but neither are Human in nature so just... walking around, experiencing life as a human child must have been both novel and relaxing.
      Utheneril is very, very, very old: either a peer of Mythal's or perhaps even older. After the trauma of their experiences, Solas & Mythal likely sympathised greatly.
      What role a freed Old God could have in stopping the threat of The Blights is uncertain but they would understand Blight more than any ancient elf, greywarden, freed darkspawn, or Architect-like creature. Blight-stopping aside, it must be nice to have "someone from the old days" around. I am of the opinion that dragons were as devastated by the creation of The Veil as elves were. Not that the Old Gods or the Evanuris or The Architect are really dragons, elves, or humans anymore.

    • @flamesofchaos13
      @flamesofchaos13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BattyButtercup I like your theory seems to connect the dots. But a few things it's unproven dragons had any relations to Ancient Elves or Pre-Veil societies so they must of not bothered with them or purposefully hid away...Besides from the Evanuris that probably tracked them down and enslaved their spirits to gain their "godlike/divine" powers, The Architect IS a Freed (Awakened) Darkspawn the only difference between him and Corpy and all other Darkspawn is simply magical power, Mythal probably just wants to use them for simple power to gain vengeance against whoever, Solas you're probably right about him sympathizing with these twisted and corrupted Spirits in Dead and Tainted Dragon Bodies...However why would he consider killing them all as a bad thing why does he think permanently ending their suffering will make things much worse for all? Wouldn't he at least wish their pain and the pain they cause to stop no matter what end? Something is off-putting there.

    • @briarrosegael2015
      @briarrosegael2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Christa Kelly Wait I thought Urthemiel was sort of a subversion of the whole “god of beauty” thing by being male. All the Old Gods are male, except one who I thought was Razikale.

  • @Golovologovo
    @Golovologovo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I always roleplay super diplomats who are trying to please everyone, so with me, every self-conscious creature not willing to hurt me will live. And the consequences -- well, we'll deal with them later! %) Besides, the Architect is tremendously adorable with his mask-hat-thingie and stuff.
    Grey Warden's path is one of difficult decisions. There are no code, strict ethics, noble history, nothing - they're just condemned to decay warriors with a sole anti-blight purpose, so why demand any special strategical wisdom from them?

  • @davidegronda3848
    @davidegronda3848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I kill him most of the times and my reason for it is merely a military one , the wardens can deal with normal mindless darkspawn even during Blights and the old Dragon gods are almost all dead so eventualy it will be over but if he create intelligent darkspawn it will be terrible for everyone because they became an even bigger threath even without an Archdemon ,of course we now know that the architect is not the only one that can be a sort of replacemant to an archdemon but apart from that i choose a simple enemy that i know how to face to a complex and unknown one

    • @zedarkenigma
      @zedarkenigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, you just killed an ally

  • @elissacousland44
    @elissacousland44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Dragon Age devs are masters of telling the same story without making it obvious. The theme of someone rising up to free their people and then the resulting world dealing with the aftermath is one we see several times. While listening to this recap on the Architect, I was struck by how similar he seemed to Solas. He doesn't wish to cause harm (but is not above it if it is necessary) in order to return free will to his people. Where have we seen this before? I feel like all we have to do is look through the history of Thedas in order to figure out what his plans will eventually yield. This is actually something about the DA series that I really enjoy though, and I hope they eventually do something with it. The Architect seemed too crazy and monumental at the time to not be setting up something for later.

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lindsay K I wonder if this theme is a part of world's history repeating itself? Like, in Mass Effect, every cycle went through the same process. One race pushing another down, AI rebelling against their creators, etc. So maybe this is kind of the same thing?
      Although, I would point out that the Architect is trying to solve for peace. Solas wants his people and his people alone to prosper.

    • @elissacousland44
      @elissacousland44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Kingdom That is certainly a valid point. If you look at it, you have the Original Sin as it were- the Magisters entering the Golden City. Now they might not have been oppressed as we know it. But it is still this narrative of trying to rise up beyond one's station to make life better for them and their people. 'Their people' being the Magisters, I would think, and not the people of Tevinter as a whole. That resulted in the Blight. We have Andraste and the slaves that ended up eventually culminating in the Exalted March and destruction of what little was left of Elvhen culture. We have Solas and the elves of course, resulting in the original fall of everything and the creation of the Fade. The cause and effect here is strong. So I would be very interested in seeing what the fallout of this plan of the Architect's would be.
      I think it's also important to note that Solas doesn't necessarily NOT want anyone else to prosper. He just has very clear goals, and if something happens to conflict with them, he isn't willing to put aside his people for those who would not do the same in return. I think he's smart enough to know that this plan isn't probably the best. I think he knows that the likelihood of failure is high. But the guilt is so overwhelming for him that he can't bring himself to acknowledge that fact. He can't admit that everything is probably screwed either way. It's too much for him to bear.

    • @michaelhenry3234
      @michaelhenry3234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Lindsay K That reminds me of ASOIAF where past history ends up repeating itself. Not of any law within the universe, but because the writer used backstory as indirect foreshadowing.

    • @BattyButtercup
      @BattyButtercup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      each game (and book, tbh) features revolutionaries as key figures of the plot but NOT as protagonists: Fen'harel, Andraste, & Shartan are legends; Anders, the viscount's son in DA2 (Saemus?), The Architect, & Briala are often obstacles or outright antagonists (even if you, as a player/reader, sympathise or actively support them).
      The thing about revolutions of the "throwing off the might of the oppressors" sort is that... the oppressors tend not to react well when confronted. DA2 is an exercise in seeing the humanity and POV of both ends of a dichotomy. It actively puts the player in situations that humanise those involved & demonstrate how attempting to point at one faction as Evil cannot be done - Hawke's surviving sibling; Keran the templar & his sister Macha; the templar recruits at The Gallows; every questline involving the Viscount's Son; blood mage!MERRILL versus every other blood mage; possessed!Anders versus every other possessed person; refugee-turned-guard!Aveline versus desperate refugees-turned-criminal; ambient dialogue on Fereldan refugees, ambient dialogue on alienages...
      Each revolutionary ends up surrounded by, if not actively causing, bloodshed. Attempts at opening dialogues only "work" when life has already been lost & even then compromises seldom last let alone appease anyone involved: Andraste freed the south from magisters... but her people turned on each other until Circles & Alienages became NEW chains; Architect freed darkspawn from mindless slaughter... only for some to be driven mad. Fenris echoes the latter in how his initial escape from slavery goes but, for some Obvious Reasons, fares off better than, say, whoever that poor woman who became a broodmother who became "Mother" did.
      ...so, revolution is bloody & not nearly as noble if you're living it is a Big Recurring Theme and a lot of our present-day revolutionaries have started the bloodshedding by now.

    • @flamesofchaos13
      @flamesofchaos13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BattyButtercup Way to accurately assess the themes there. But what is it you're arguing for the False God's to have destroyed the world? The Darkspawn to serve the Archdemon and cause Blights? The Magi who dissent at Chantry "rule and order" be silenced or negated to be oppressed? For Templars to continue taking Lyrium that drives them all mad?
      Obviously something had to be done. It's simply the method of the antagonists that were flawed not really the intent to rebel against literal corruptions and evils.

  • @DarkKing009
    @DarkKing009 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the Grey warden did nothing wrong
    #theGreywardendidnothingwrong

  • @-Mushroom_Kid-
    @-Mushroom_Kid- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The thing I find interesting about the dragon age series is that mages and darkspawn are just as bad as any zealous templar with a sharpened sword
    It's how power is used not what the power is

  • @thejohnhopkinscompany9599
    @thejohnhopkinscompany9599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I kill him every time but after playing Inquisition I don't for a second believe he's truly dead.
    I also have a theory that the way the darkspawn joining works is that it gives the darkspawn a fragment of the soul of the Greywarden who's blood they drank, which gives them individuality.

  • @younggrasshopper3531
    @younggrasshopper3531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You ponder at the beginning if a Grey Wardens lifespan could be extended by consuming grey warden blood? The answer is yes in a sense, as seen by the blood mage at vigils keep who extended his life using grey warden blood

  • @Doc_Aspy
    @Doc_Aspy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tinfoil hat time.
    I think he'd wind up not really picking a side between any other surviving magisters and everyone else. When he was still a magister, he told Corypheus "no" to visiting the Golden City to become gods because what he was doing appeared blasphemous to good old Archy. He was still a bit of a nerd about it and curious as all get out--which isn't diminished after losing his memories and all--but he didn't do anything to help until Urthamiel told him, "Hey, kid. Do this, and we can remake the world into a lovely paradise, and it'll be neat and perfect." Though, what their idea of "paradise" is is up for debate. An Eden sort of world where there are beauty and abundance with no sin? A world of peace among the races? A world where magic is everywhere like it once was before the Veil? Who knows? Him getting the godhood from Urthamiel instead of Corypheus getting it from Dumat could have been with good intentions or bad. We just don't know.
    Corypheus did it out of paranoia since belief in the gods was dropping dramatically; he was described as being "not a terrible guy" in a codex entry when you're in the Fade. Though, owning slaves is kinda the exact opposite of not a terrible person but anyway. Whether his intentions were good or not in the beginning, he's too corrupted now to go back to who and what he once was. That, and, you know, he was ripped to bity-bits when the Inq introduces a rift to his gut and thought to be gone for good now. At least we know where his mind was before they entered the Golden City.
    Because the Architect seems mostly okay-ish, in terms of behavior/beliefs, I think he'd side more with "life" in general than complete destruction to start from scratch like he'd planned to an eon ago. No matter his plans to unite everyone through the blight--whether he decides to continue or not, I would LIKE to believe that he'd choose whichever side had the better chance of bringing peace to the world. If he ever remembers his past, then perhaps he'll be an absolute nope on helping any remaining magisters/arch-demons because "Look what happened last time, idiots. The world wasn't half bad, but now it's even worse than where we started. Look at it; it's got anxiety. That, and I was a priest for the god of beauty and look what it did to me. I look like I was run over by a bronto and chewed up then spat out by a dracolisk. I can't go running around, repping Urthamiel looking like a splattered, rotten egg that's been chilling out on the sidewalk in the summer for five days."
    If Solas succeeds in merging the waking world and the Fade again, idk how that would affect them; this is including any remaining magisters hiding around out there. Would it worsen the madness remaining magisters may suffer from, like exposure to the Fade + the red lyrium growing out of him + the blight +whatever the heck else was up with him did to Corypheus? Would that be a catalyst for the Architect to get his memories back one day? Would it, in some way, LESSEN the madness and bloodlust of the darkspawn in one way or another, the Architect and his freed buddies included? Who knows? Certainly not I.
    Anyway, again, whichever side had the better chance at preserving life and maintaining peace would have his support. Dude seems fixated on getting everyone to chill out and stop fighting like overgrown, bloodthirsty babies. The tired, nerdy dad-friend who just needs some peace and quiet and maybe a long nap, I guess.
    Sorry for the ten-page essay of incoherent ramblings, terrible jokes, OOC dialogue, and headcanons. I'm half asleep and not entirely with it today.

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I very much enjoyed your thoughts XD You and I share a similar sense of humor and love of lore, I think

    • @Doc_Aspy
      @Doc_Aspy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheKingdomEntertainment Thanks for taking the time to read it all. :0)
      I think my appreciation for it comes from the details and my love of world-building. There's something satisfying about creating something from nothing until you have a world as vast as what this series has. It's just impressive, and there's enough left out for anyone to come in and add in their own little details; you're not exactly wrong or right since some things are up for interpretation. That's one of the best things about a story, inviting the audience to dream up their own details to fill in the blanks.
      And at least I now know that I'm not the only one with a warped sense of humor.

  • @LongTran-kp3kz
    @LongTran-kp3kz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah. I actaully REALLY liked 'The Calling' DLC and all the moral quandaries it made you have to wrestle with. Like, when freed of the calling, a lot of Darkspawn aren't really so different than us, and I even pitied the MOther and, it's not like the Architect didn't feel at least a little bad about it.
    I know that in my runs, I always ended up working with them since, ultimately, their goals aligned with mine and they aren't awful pp.
    I did make sure to add some strings attached to keep things as on the level as I can get them, all thins considered.

  • @manuelalonsodominguezvazqu2145
    @manuelalonsodominguezvazqu2145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Amazing video!* 😙

  • @michamcv.1846
    @michamcv.1846 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    even the free darkspawn are a way bigger threat , it would be better for the commander to make the architect his friend , since he seem not able to seal him at the point.
    i mean we often forget the magisters found their way back out of the veil ones , they will do it again:-)

  • @SMsneakyninja
    @SMsneakyninja 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wakanda forever. But... you kind of broke my heart. I live for that Talanadas.

  • @claudiarcade
    @claudiarcade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my first playthrough, which has been posted a few days ago; i spared him. he sounded genuine, he hadnt done anything to overtly harm anyone when you encounter the architect. of course anyone around him who isnt darkspawn does get affected with the taint

  • @cesarpaladines5131
    @cesarpaladines5131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    to be honest I ALLWAYS SPARE THE ARQUITECT ... i believe that is worth the risk

    • @AlexLopez-vm7uq
      @AlexLopez-vm7uq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, and clearly The Architect , at the very least, has good intentions for BOTH Sides... seeing the Taint corrupt and how it Enslaves Darkspawn makes him want to cure it further helping everyone,... and him recognizing the Blights as a Reckoning to ALL involved makes him more sympathetic to The Humans, Dwarves, Elves, etc.
      If The Architect ever finds any secrets or CURE for the Taint, than either discovery would help against the Blight!
      I'm just hoping the Next Dragon Age has Characters that side with him also :D!

  • @spotlight1677
    @spotlight1677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video and I have to say, I always let the Architect live in my runs, he isn't inherently evil, he has regrets on whatever his past maybe. If he sees Corypheus, he will definitely remember his past. With Morrigan's son being a possible reborn Urthemiel will make this nuts. Him and Corypheus are the key to the ending the Blights currently.

  • @kamantariq2513
    @kamantariq2513 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The darkspawn are like Resident evil viruses mixed with the supernatural.
    The brood mothers are terrifying.
    What if Flemethe was turned into a brood mother and then given The Architect joining?

  • @jordanmaroon5663
    @jordanmaroon5663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, I love you videos soo much lol 😂😂😂

  • @87Ayb
    @87Ayb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He's still a Tevinter magister, that's why you can't trust him. It runs DEEP.

  • @16Vagabond
    @16Vagabond ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the Architect dies even if the Warden kills him.
    There's no reason to believe he wouldn't have the same effective immortality Corypheus had. So killing him might actually be worse because he'll just come out of it more distrustful of humanity.

  • @Doomware
    @Doomware 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always spared, but just to keep tabs on him and the other awakened. Learning that he was a possibly immortal merely double that decision down for me.

  • @Skeithwannabe
    @Skeithwannabe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly I think there are a couple variants in the Taint but I will limit myself to (Original Taint(Magistar/Archdemon), Common Tain (Darkspawn), and Abberant Taint (Disciples/Mother/Children)

  • @Alva_Lombax
    @Alva_Lombax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lets say you kill him, what proof do we have that he is dead ? I mean, the BBEG from DAI was killed in DA2 and still came back

  • @TastyGamingQc
    @TastyGamingQc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m fairly certain that him or more precisely the intelligent darkspawn he created are the ones behind those weird war tables missions in dragon age inquisition. Those that we never truly get any explanations for.

  • @NoName-ym5zj
    @NoName-ym5zj 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ngl feel like they literally forgot about my guy Architect. It's one thing I hate about BioWare games, if the character can live or die than you know that in the next game they are unlikely to play a big role or get a fleeting mention in future games. Only exception being Ashley and Kaidan, but this decision doesn't affect the story very much in terms of how different things are. They even both follow the same path and become specteres.

    • @yc_knight6370
      @yc_knight6370 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Let’s hope he comes back in DATV

  • @TyrbeTrost
    @TyrbeTrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I chose to let him live on my playthrough. Yes at first sight there is a huge gamble, but then I thought of the consequences, and it's really not that big of a gamble. Worst case scenario, he's lying to you and want to create an army of intelligent and free-willed darkspawn to conquer the surface. But there is also the matter of the darkspawn without free will and those who oppose him. It would end in a civil war between darkspawn = massive numbers of darkspawn dead. The sheer number is what is so dangerous about the darkspawn during a blight.
    Best case scenario, he truly means what he says and want people and darkspawn to live in peace. He doesn't want more blights. That in itself would be a huge victory.
    Another scenario is you let him live and the darkspawn kill him, which would result in a new blight no matter what. And well, nothing changes.
    You kill him, same as above, it will result in a new blight no matter what and nothing changes.

  • @guineagirl246
    @guineagirl246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing about him coming back is that in DAI they say that the reason corypheus can switch bodies is the dragon, but that also doesnt fit with hawke killing him and coming back, i doubt he had the dragon then. Ive actually never even noticed that till i just thought about it now

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Emma Taylor I think the killing the dragon part just temporarily disrupted his ability to possess bodies. Like you said, he didn't have it when Hawke first killed him.

    • @WraithReaper09
      @WraithReaper09 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corypheus did a Suron.

  • @Ironbreeze53
    @Ironbreeze53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sidereal didn’t break any natural laws. They just brute forced their way past Solas’s veil. The taint already existed before they entered & why Corypheus says“I’ve seen the throne of the gods & it was empty”. They taint is probably from either the force that the Evanuris fought against or themselves.

  • @fuckoffgoogle1657
    @fuckoffgoogle1657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His idea of “help” only hurts. Like Solas. It doesn’t make him “good” try or no

  • @trash1170
    @trash1170 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally, I believe the risk is too big to keep him alive. Darkspawn under a archdemon are bad enough but under awakened darkspawn, on top of making more awakened darkspawn and his intentions can be misinterpretted as shown with the first talking darkspawn in the DLC. I'd trust The Architect but the risk he poses is too great, could he go through with giving individuality to a darkspawn and should they have ideals that are against siding with the wardens and peace, could he kill them?

  • @drthalattos
    @drthalattos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t trust him. What he says doesn’t make sense. First there is the mission to the Warden’s Keep - which turns into a massacre. Now that could be because the Architect wasn’t clear to his Disciples. Or what he really wanted was Warden blood - to create more Disciples. But given how good the Architect is at convincing people to follow him (in DA:The Calling and Awakening) the “mistaken orders” defence seems thin. And let’s not forget the warden taken back to the Silverite Mine during the attack.
    In the Silverite mines, you wake up in the Architect’s lab. I bet he extracted warden blood.
    Then there is his wakening of the Archdemon. He claims he wanted to make it a Disciple. But it’s still an Old God until a darkspawn corrupts it, and changes it into an Archdemon. So it would already have been untainted.
    I suspect he wanted the Archdemon under his control.
    Both of his plans involve creating darkspawn armies, which he seems to want loyal to him.

  • @jonathansidwell1
    @jonathansidwell1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you asked how to cure Warden-Commander, well Using the Titan Blood + Great Dragon Blood

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see or play as my dao character again ;-;

  • @dowmage2903
    @dowmage2903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The darkspawn could then choose to gather hords and attack the races. Plus smart darkspawn could do lots of damage. So when roleplaying a greywarden who agrees to with Wyne that you are there to protect people even from them selves as well as the blight, I kill him. So that they don't choose to harm people. But it would be nice to see how this pans out in the future given he might still be alive even if you kill him.

  • @monksters1
    @monksters1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assuming neither the Archdemon or Magister end up taking over each other, that probably the the way to kill the Magisters.
    Since they have souls it is possible that the process of the Archdemon going into the Magisters body will kill them both.

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But couldn't the same be said for when a Grey Warden kills a magister?

  • @MIGBMWLOVER
    @MIGBMWLOVER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the first time I played awakening I killed him because trusting him is a big gamble that I didn't want to take but then again free will is great idea...

  • @cbrock68
    @cbrock68 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I chose to let the architect go but that was because I was still a kid back then and wanted darkspawn playable race/ party member to da2

  • @pirates0138
    @pirates0138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't see a reason why i should spare the Architect because, nothing guarantees that the awakened darkspawn disciples wont start all over again, where they left off, meaning they can still decide to seek out the Old Gods, but without them calling. Still they spread the taint nonetheless. Now all things considered for me there is just no point siding with him, for MAYBE a false hope, that you can break the endless cycle of the blight.

  • @JustMike_Official
    @JustMike_Official 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't quite agree with his methods, and always end up killing him, as I don't trust him at all. Still, he'll live. Why wouldn't he have the same ability as Coryphifish?

  • @LadyRuin
    @LadyRuin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not going to lie the architect kind of reminds me of Solas.🤷

  • @spotlight1677
    @spotlight1677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope you see my message but man, Tinfoil Hat:
    The Architect was surely a good man when he was a Sidereal Magister, out of all the 7 Old Gods, Urthemiel the God of Beauty was most likely the friendliest one as we see with Reborn Urthemiel as Kieran. I'm pretty sure when they breached the Fade he may have been the one saying this is too far now. Him Governing Bsatty and him serving Urthemiel means he must act accordingly. In his Sidereal Magister days, he must have been a beautiful man, given his look next to Corypheus well Blighted. He also has an overall good heart for what he is, I wish we saw him interact with Coryoheus, his memories would have returned. With power comes infighting, since all the Magisters are governing different aspects like Lusacan-Night Razikale-Mystery Urthemiel-Beauty Toth-Fire Zazikale-Chaos Andoral-Slaves and Draconis-No Magister of Governing title, this would mean Urthemiel and the Architect of Beauty would have to represent everything good with the World of Thedas. I believe in The Architect doing a great thing in the future for everyone.

  • @michamcv.1846
    @michamcv.1846 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder which magister saved khal sharok with his experiments^^

  • @lordnihilus4845
    @lordnihilus4845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What call the architect is a deutragonist Someone who’s isn’t a good or bad person

  • @martagerc8743
    @martagerc8743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Well I always kill messanger and Architect. You are Warden, you exist to kill darkspawn. Look at DAI, Wardens listening to magisters and darspawn and where it gets them haha 🤣

    • @bluetwinkiesaregood
      @bluetwinkiesaregood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Those are reasonable points. ✅

    • @johndoe-cv8pr
      @johndoe-cv8pr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly! Very true! A world without dark spawn is the ideal

  • @tyx8898
    @tyx8898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think Duncan is really dead? I felt with his wisdom and abilities and adventures, allowed him to survive the ogre darkspawn

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tyler Todd He was still surrounded by the horde, though. And wounded. Besides, it's been more than 10 years. The Calling would have taken him by now anyway. Also, I imagine he would have made his presence known to the Wardens - at least to Alistair.

    • @tyx8898
      @tyx8898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about King Merric? Wasn’t he in one of the books as Alistair was looking for him when he runs into Morrigan’s sister and Sten as the new Arishok.

    • @TheKingdomEntertainment
      @TheKingdomEntertainment  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tyler Todd Maric...well, his body was effectively destroyed. His spirit MAY still be in the Fade, living a perpetual dream, but I'm not really sure.

    • @tyx8898
      @tyx8898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I love about these games. They leave a lot of mystery and unanswered questions that really make you think of what’s next to come. That and the choices lol developing your own story based on the lore given has always been 👍🏻👍🏻 for me

  • @michamcv.1846
    @michamcv.1846 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    who would the architect consider his god.. Solas or Kiran ?

    • @yang6642
      @yang6642 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Architect was the high priest of Urthemiel, the old god that we fought at the end of Dragon Age: Origins

  • @tinaswafford1985
    @tinaswafford1985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another good video. You cannot cooperate with the Architect if you want the people or creatures or world to continue. There is no dilemma. Reason being is that to cooperate means reproduction stops. Yes, most of the population dies first if you make a Joining like the Architect wants. That alone SHOULD BE enough to deter you [unless you're a big jerk like some of the Grey Wardens are, ha ha, thinking the end justifies the means.] However, as you pointed out, even the freed darkspawn who is trying to help isn't helping for the long run because he accidentally spreads the Taint! No reproduction equals the end of people, and Taint spreading equals the end of the rest. Even ravens avoid Tainted lands. Anyway, ... I see no dilemma. :)