TRADITIONAL VS MODERN COMPING FOR DRUMS | Jazz Drummer Q-Tip of the Week
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this Jazz Drummer Q-Tip of the Week free drum lesson, I compare and contrast traditional vs modern comping for drums in a jazz context for jazz comping. Understanding the difference between traditional vs modern comping for drums is crucial for understanding how to best fit different playing situations we jazz drummers are put in that require jazz comping. From watching this free jazz drum lesson, you will understand better what traditional vs modern comping for drums is and be able to apply these approaches of jazz comping to different situations and scenarios as needed.
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ZILDJIAN CYMBALS
22" Dry Complex II Prototype
19" Avedis Crash/Ride
14" K Custom Special Dry Hi Hats
TAMA STARCLASSIC DRUMS
14X18 BD
16X14 FT
14X14 FT
8X12 TT
6.5X14 Snare Drum (Starphonic Copper)
VIC FIRTH STICKS
Quincy Davis Signature Stick
--Lesson Time Stamps--
00:00 - Traditional vs Modern Comping for Drums Intro
00:26 - Playing Intro
00:50 - Lesson Explanation
01:07 - What is Traditional Comping?
05:08 - Traits of Traditional Comping: Limb Independence, Strong Groove & Repetitious, Moderate Level of Interactiveness & Language
10:14 - Modern Comping Interlude
10:40 - Traits of Modern Comping: Limb Dependence, Groove is Implied & Not repetitive, Right Hand Freedom & Rhythmically Adventurous
16:56 - You don’t have to be an EITHER/OR drummer.
18:17 - Closing Remarks
Man I just have to get this out. I graduated Berklee 2007. I recently discovered this channel and these videos are magnitudes of times more helpful than the majority of classes or lessons focused around jazz drumming that I took in school. Everything here is so well-explained and simply executed and *useful*. If you have even a passing foundation of jazz drumming like I (barely) do and many other drummers coming up playing mostly rock or funk, it feels like these are exactly the type of videos for you to instantly learn something that you can take back to the kit and improve on. Q, this is a wonderful channel man - it's unlocked my desire to return to jazz and try to get a little better. Thanks.
I appreciate that Dan. Thanks for sharing and I totally understand your frustration. Glad you’re finding inspiration in my videos!
That’s why I went to UNT not Berkeley lol Berkeley accepts anyone!
Co-sign, every time I watch this channel I take something w me that transforms my playing. He is a maestro maestro ✌🏽👍🏽
@@policeluber6720UNT’s acceptance rate is 81% 💀 even Berklee’s ain’t that high.
I’m a death metal drummer but these past few months I’ve discovered jazz and fusion, and man, this is what I want to drum 24/7 now. Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Jean-Luc Ponty, I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole. I’m starting a jazz music school soon, and these videos are SO helpful in getting my jazz chops up to date. THANK YOU!
I love this comment! Glad my lessons have been helpful to my man! Rock on🤘🏾
Bro, I believe funk and deathmetal perfectly compliment one another, same with classical... They are the sex of their respect genres!
“If you can’t do this, you have noooo business trying anything else”. 😂😂😂 so true! Great video, glad i stumbled upon your videos, they are great! You are very easy to listen to and watch 👍🏼
Awesome to hear Nick! Thanks for watching:)
Speech to gesture...all over the World ... THAT'S oral teaching in drumming...from India to Africa
Absolutely Delritmo!
Of course the best demonstration of independence is the fact that you're able to talk so fluently while playing!
Not easy but I'm slowly getting better at it Ashley:)
Being able to speak over these patterns is masterful! Love your playing bro
I appreciate that!
The biggest takeaway for me: I REALLY appreciate when a great educator breaks down complex concepts to bite-sized fundamentals that have otherwise been deemed illusive or "mystical"!
I especially like the part where you demystified the whole "chatter" vibe...It's a language, and so Jazz isn't based on rhythmic randomness.
Thanks for this video Quincy.. this was VERY insightful and helpful. I'm going to get to shedding!
I appreciate your extremely thoughtful comment. I definitely am striving to make what many feel are ambiguous concepts clear and fairly easy to understand. Thanks for watching as always my friend👊🏾
This is so true!!
Not being a native english speaker I do appreciate the clarity of your explanations and your flow, really easy to understand for foreign people. And also your humbleness and musicality.
Glad my speaking and flow are easy for you to understand Bernard!
Your insight into jazz drumming is unparalleled. You're also an amazing teacher. You also make me realize, even after playing off and on for 50 years,how much I have to learn! Keeping good time is hard enough alone!
Im an old now retired Jazz and bigband drummer and its just great to see an apparent movement (all be it slowly) away from Rock drumming with its nothing much more than straight Quarter ,eighth and 16th note patterns, yes you young guys lets start to see that old "Swing" feel again ,I thought for decades it would never happen, two great books "Jim Chapin on coordinated independence" and Louie Bellson's " Modern Reading Text in 4/4" although there are three printing errors in that book of which I did mention to Mr.Bellson at one time but he didn't like me bringing his attention to it LOL, but still a great book.
I play piano and guitar but goddamn, uptempo jazz drumming is one of the coolest things in music.
I've seen some of your older videos, and I've started watching more and more of late. I enjoy you being yourself on the videos I've been watching lately. Been around for a minute, and I've been wondering where I fit into today's scene after laying out for a few years. My son's enrolled at The New School, and he gave me a few ideas which helped get me back up to speed. As the dad that's no longer cool (ha), I don't hear from him as much, and this video was very helpful. I can do a lot with this. I appreciate you, Brother...
So happy this lesson helped you! And congrats to you for raising a kid who is attending The New School. Cool school!
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.. thankQ Dr Q. You d'man. I learn and grow so much from your vids. I watched loads now.. and keep coming back to you.. owe you one fella.
I love how your videos are more on teaching rather than flashy camera editing. Really shows the focus of your channel is to teach. The simplicity makes it very light to watch and easily understandable too!
I appreciate that feedback and I'm glad you like my teaching style Jiggy:)
Best jazz drumming channel
Very kind of you🙏🏾
I feel some Bernard Purdie vibes. I loved it.
Oh yes! He’s in there even if I didn’t intend it:)
Really great stuff, Quincy. In the 80s, my late great teacher from Chicago, Tony Caselli, constantly talked about comping as a language. Using the Ted Reed book, he would always have me keep time and sing the SD/BD parts for one line, then play it. This call and answer approach has stuck with me to this day, helping me to avoid the "chatter" habit of not communicating with others in the band. These days, I play gigs on both drums and piano (thanks to the same teacher that insisted I study jazz piano!), and my piano comping style comes directly from my drum comping.
That’s awesome Toni! What a great teacher you had and an awesome application of Ted reads Syncopation book. Cheers!
Gracias!
Thanks for keeping the jazz alive man!!!
My pleasure Allen! Jazz is America:)
Thanks for the lesson!
My pleasure!
I am coming back to this after a year of studying jazz. This is so usefull, you clearly stated the path to approach the modern style. Amazing as always Q
Glad it was helpful!
thank you for this vid.
Really great to hear someone who deeply understands what they're talking about, articulate it so generously. Thank you!
I appreciate that!
By FAR the best video on this subject and clears up tons of misconceptions about jazz for people who just kind of fall into playing jazz as a path that they’re “supposed to” follow
I appreciate that No No!
Man oh man, you're a great teacher and fantastic drummer! Thanks so much for your videos!
Excellent. Thanks so much . I love “ it’s not either or “ . And how you frame that in terms of needing independence.
Thanks for watching Jeff!
Love your lessons, Brother
I appreciate that Donald!
Such a great teacher!
That's very kind of you! Thank you.
Perfekt!!!! Thanks a lot!!!
You are so welcome Geraldo!
Why am I just now finding this channel?! Such great content!!!
You gotta work on your timing. LOL!! I'm kidding. Welcome aboard Kev!
Such a great lesson. Thank you Q!
Glad you enjoyed the lesson!
Love these lessons!
Great lesson!!
Thank you Serkan!
As always a really great lesson
Thanks a lot Mike
Great lesson. Thank you!
My pleasure Julian!
Thank you. Buena lección! ✌🏽🇩🇴
My pleasure! Thanks for watching:)
Great Lesson! In my collaborations I have noticed that pianists love modern comping, often some they ask for time dilation to make it more relaxed and less pulsating at the beginning of the solo.. But traditional comping is always the basis for any soloist!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Roberto, and thanks for watching Roberto!
I should say, so CLEARLY AND GENEROUSLY!!!
Thank you for a very good lesson!
Thank you for watching!
Great info!!
Glad it was helpful Eddie!
Thanks you, bro!!
My pleasure!
Dude I needed this video for sure.
It's yours Barret:)
Beautiful ride cymbal sound at feel!
You Sound Great!
I really enjoyed this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you enjoyed it Roland!
Another great lesson. Thank you. Everything sounds great, but I especially love those sticks on that ride with your wonderful playing.
I appreciate that Neal!
Soooo good. Really appreciate the time stamp for quick reference and the way you structure the phases of transition. Thank you!
Thanks so much Josh! I’m glad the time stamp is helpful cause it’s really tedious to add. Lol! See you on the next one!
Just awesome. I really enjoy your teaching style and content Q!
Thanks so much Howard!
beautiful lesson Q, just what I needed! thanks!
Terrific lesson, so much to think about and work on, thank you sir!
Glad it was helpful!
Great Lesson, Quincy!
Glad you liked it!
Great lesson as always, thank you
My pleasure Steve!
Beautiful explanations
Brilliant breakdown!
Thanks!
Thank you, again, for sharing your wisdom, Quincy…what I love about your posts is that you constantly emphasise the importance of serving and respecting the music above all else…
Keep on keepin’ on!
It's alllll about the music. I appreciate that Mike!
Great lesson
Thanks for watching Warren!
Like your Drum instructional Videos.
Great video, thank you !! It was very interesting and useful !!
Glad you liked it Alexandre!
Great vid Q!
Glad you enjoyed it Mark!
Quincy’s ability and clarity to expose ideas and concepts is remarkable! Always a valuable and interesting lesson, All the best!
I appreciate your kind words Roberto!
like everyone, i watch lots of stuff on youtube, but yours is the only channel i subscribe to. the only one. you are a bad, bad man.
You’re too kind Ocho. I really appreciate your support and kind words. Thank you🙏🏾
Endless thanks for your great data and instruction for jazz language , I’m very grateful of you
My pleasure!
Hello Q, just catching up on to your vids!
I downloaded this one and watched on a train trip a while ago, I enjoyed it a lot as always!
When you started with the "Rhythms that don't feel good" it remained of me playing the Syncopation P.38 on my left hand while keeping the cymbal beat on the right hand (great exercice for independence but not great for vocab...).
I played like that and every one (including some of my teachers) was telling me "no, man, you play the left hand (or right foot) to loud, it's not rock music" and man, now I know that: THAT WAS NOT THE (only lol) PROBLEM! The real deal was that I was playing rhythms that DO NOT SWING, as Hutch would say "VOCABULARY, MAN!".
When I started with the "Art of Bop Drumming" I understood that....
Thanks for sharing Joel. Your issue with the left hand that you had is common amongst many drummers.
Very beautiful ride sound.
Glad you like it Paulie!
Great videos Q!!!
Thanks Kev!
You have a wonderful feel reminds me of Jeff Hamilton or Gary chafee gréât lesson !
Thank you so much for your lessons
You are very welcome Issam!
Wonderful lesson and playing 🙏
Glad you liked it Stevie!
Thanks!
That’s very kind of you by the Bill. Thanks so much, sir.🙏🏾.
Another fantastic and useful lesson!
My man! Thank you🙏🏾
Lovely playing Quincy. So many jazz drummers I meet focus all their attention on comping without really getting the underpinning feel, and more importantly energy into the ride and the rest of the kit happening. For example, I could listen to what you do for just 30 seconds at say 1:00, or at 11:00 for hours! Because it means something. It's this that makes everything else you are showing golden. Lovely!
I enjoy your videos and help me a lot!
Thanks from Japan.
I’m very happy to hear that！ いつも見てくれてありがとうございます🙏🏾
Awesome! Great lesson man thanks!
Rock on...I mean jazz on Jimmy!
great presentation
Thanks RC!
Beautiful !
Thank you!
Another great lesson from a great jazz drummer.
I appreciate that Bill!
Thank you Q I just bought some lessons from your website I love your teaching
great lesson sir!! i got a lot a work to do
We all have lots of work to do Rodrigo:) thanks for watching my friend!
Ich verfolge deine posts seit langer zeit und bin sehr dankbar fuer das teilen deiner unglaublichen erfahrung und inhalte...
Ich weiss es sehr zu schaetzen...
Wise guy teaching
Bitte schön my friend:) Danke für es geschauen👍🏾
Superb lesson, learned more than ever about comping just b4 sleep. Thank you.
Love to hear that!
Brilliantly articulated lesson, thank you so much - I can’t wait to practise.
Thanks for watching!
Brilliant lesson‼️it’s gonna be such a help with my progress, thank you MrQ✌️🌻
Awesome man, great stuff! Youre a great great player, great teacher, and I love your setup to speak while playing, very helpful and efficient!
Thanks a ton Bee!
Awesome video. Beyond informative
I really appreciate that Ricky:)
that drumkit 😋😍
Nice lesson!! Thanx
My pleasure Lucas!
Excellent! Thank you for sharing 🥁
My pleasure Artie. Thanks for watching!
Haven’t finished watching yet but I love this lesson and I just want to thank you
I appreciate that very much sir!
Very interesting breakdown!
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching.
Great 👍
Thank you Arthur!
Great Lesson on traditional vs modern coping.
Thanks Veronica!
All I can say about this is, WOW! Thanks for posting this great lesson.
Thanks for watching Don!
Great source of knowledge 🙏
Thanks Diego. Glad you’re enjoying the lessons.
Great, Quincy, as always!
🙏🏾🙏🏾
thnx again Quincy, another great lesson.
I appreciate that Eamon! Glad you're enjoying my lessons.
Great tutorial; very practical, and Q’s teaching style is very natural and unpretentious...
Yeah man I need to get on my comping even more ✌️🎶digging your lessons Mr.D‼️
Glad you’re enjoying the lessons! Thanks for your words.
Mr. Davis thank you so much you are such an incredible teacher the way you are describing the concepts showing them and then presenting ways to expand on them it’s just brilliant
What was particularly helpful was having you reinforce what you’re playing vocally incredibly well done thank you for sharing your gift and your time you’re a great player teacher and you seem like a really great person
You're very welcome Joe!
Hi Quincy Brian up here in Canada i really like when you mentioned singing or humming the groove and trying to comp that way sort of tap dancing the left hand been trying to work on it
I allways learn something new when I watch your lessons! Thank you from Germany!
So happy to hear that Anika:) Cheers to you and one of my fav countries, Deutschland❤️
Looks like I have NOOOOO BUSINESS trying anything else for now... haha!! Thanks Quincy, your lessons are just great! I look forward to every new one. All the best! P
I guess I made my message loud and clear :-) Thanks for watching Pete and I’m glad you find my lessons helpful.