Really interesting..As a child aged about 6 I found what I thought was a diamond ring... Dad took it too the police station and they said it was a fake... they tried to scratch glass with it. I remember the disappointment... Plus the coppers said if it were a real diamond of that size, it wouldn't be in a silver mount. True enough.
Diamonds don’t maintain their value, and the entire industry is a whole scam considering de beers artificially inflates the value of the diamond. The colors letters and cuts are all mainly invisible to the naked eye. You should purchase a stone that you love and that makes you feel happy. The perceived value of it is just perceived. Whether the stone is a diamond or not is up to you :) hopefully that helps.
Geese Beemps it is best to educate oneself before buying a diamond. The colour of a stone is definitely noticeable with the naked eye; just compare a D colour to an I or J colour; you will see the difference. The best colour is no colour. No one wants an inferior diamond; they want the best quality for what they can afford.
L S It might not have been clear, but considering the scale goes from no color to Z (literally yellow,) i thought it was safe to assume my comment referenced the visible difference between two letters that are next to each other. For example: D vs E, or I vs J. Any of them compared to a single letter above or below is essentially undetectable for a naked eye. Obviously, you wouldn’t compare a D with a N or something. But again, I was referencing the fact that paying more for a letter up because it’s “less yellow” is very scammy since most people wouldn’t even know unless they were explicitly told what letter it was.
@@AnaluGPrd There's devices for that that check the refraction index of stones using light. Not exactly a household method, but any jeweler who works with diamonds will be able to test this for you.
Jonathon Calleija, moissanite has a hardness of 9.25 so please tell me what kind of sandpaper are you using to scratch it? Certainly nothing average people would have. I know about the double refractive nature of moissanite but the average person would not have access to this type of equipment.
Good to see you back in the videos Tommy! If you guys ever want an apprentice I'm only in Kent and I have a degree in silversmithing, goldsmithing and jewellery design. I interviewed in Hatton Garden last week but they cast everything and fob it off as genuine handmade, I can't work like that because I want to learn the proper goldsmithing skills and actually hand make real top quality work
The Floating test only works with certain dense fluids and is highly dependant on which diamond imitation it is. In general all those tests only work to identify Glass, rock crystal, CZ, YAG, Fabulite and similar imitations. Moissanite can't be identified with most of the tests. Very informative nevertheless.
Found a random "diamond" sitting in the crawlspace of the house I just bought. Looked really similar to my mom's real diamond ring, and it passed most tests I tried, but after it failed the newspaper test I decided to take a lighter to it (dropping it in the water made the same cool sound that it does in the video). Sure enough it was completely shattered. I crushed it just for good measure.
Tbh I find it interesting the way people dislike CZ and love diamond. CZ is far more perfect in its colourlessness, it is more weighted on the finger, it literally shines brighter or shall I say it makes rainbows and diamond barely does. Diamond often has brown or yellow tinge in the stone and is lighter and less sheer. The only real reason diamond is better is the hardness of the two stones, CZ scratches over time and shows wear and tear, diamond will not show scratches. CZ is an 8 hardness while diamond is a 10. But then CZ is so cheap you could just get another stone put in everytime scratches showed after extended use. Hahah but I guess... “diamonds are forever”. I love my heavy colourless rainbow stones ♥️
Вот сколько работаю ,никогда не бросаю изделие при ремонте или изготовлении горячим в воду либо кислоту,!Уверен,что и бриллиант пр определенной температуре может треснуть от резкого охлаждения!Ну я бы точно так не рисковал))))
Just finished picking through about 10 quarts of river gravels and there were loads of stones. Pink, yellow, red, green, orange, purple, white, all varrying shape and size. I know in my state we have every type of gemstone, excluding Ruby, but not every color. Would the tests work on uncut diamonds? What is a good broad spectrum gem tester?
Tfs! Truly appreciate your videos. They are very helpful. I have a question about an issue ive been having and was wondering if you had any advice? So, i recently made a diamond four prong solitaire ring and have been having trouble with the prongs catching on everything and i am afraid i will lose the stone if i wear it. So its put away for now. I made a 22k gold alloy and platinum twist makume gane type of band and a platinum four prong setting. I have cut, polished, and burnished them down as close as i can. And feel if i go any further i will end up not having enough metal to actually hold on barely over the gurtle. (Sorry if my spelling is incorrect.lol)
@@shiettamoore7615bro…. You’re typing this on the Internet right? I didn’t even have to scroll to find one for $10. (keep in mind you always get what you pay for especially with tools.) Or you can get one for a couple hundred dollars they can’t even tell him between lab grown stones
Hi, Just wanted to know how you got into jewellery making? I love design technology and product design etc l, and also love jewellery with a passion, i feel like its something i would want to pursue but dont know where to start?
Do you want to work at a jeweler's bench making things every day? Do you want work on the sales floor? Would you prefer to just design? Which ever one you prefer, there's a different set of schooling and career paths.
I don't really know about jewelry but this video was very interesting! I have a question, does this test applies to any other kind of "diamond" (I'm sorry, English is not my first language, I don't know the word) Like if I do the same to an emerald I should expect the same?
I have a real diamond earrings comparison and its still confusing. I did the UV test, all the little squares making 1 large princess cut reveals a few stones having a glow sediments that holds a charge after the light is removed while other stones in the same set don't yet all are real. Best take what you to to pawn as they test, they don't need to know you don't intend to but wanted a quote for if you do : )
I found a diamond on a cafe, and i used the lighter technique. Lol, i guess you can figure out what happened next, but fyi it did pass the newspaper test and the fog test. The lighter completely destroyed it.
I would like to know how accurate these tests are I found a stone it passed every test you just did except for the last one it completely shattered after heating it up and dropping it in water
Hot water, aluminium foil and bicarbonate soda - th-cam.com/video/xTPRLB-1-B0/w-d-xo.html or - tin foil in a bowl hot water and salt left for 5 minutes stir and remove silver
OK... but that cubic looked kind of cool after the burn test... with a coat of epoxy or something to hold it together it might be a "new" kind of accessory! lol.
Omg I’m so excited cause I found what I think it might be a real Diamond 💎 I just need the sandpaper test and the fire test but I feel very confident it is a real diamond and if it’s not well I have nothing to lose cause I did found after all
With the sandpaper test, if your sandpaper is diamond grit made from industrial grade diamond dust (grits) it will scratch a real diamond. The grade or grit rating of the sandpaper is dependent on the size of the diamond grits or diamond dust particles used. If you use silica type sandpaper (lower cost type of sandpaper) then it will probably not be able to scratch the real diamond. I did like your demonstration. I have seen jewellers use the electronic devices for testing diamonds. This device measures the diamond's surface thermal absorption factor to determine if it is fake or not. I have seen fake diamonds for costume jewellery made from clear silica. They are like a very hard glass. There are some types of high quality replica that visually look like a real diamond. I wonder of a specific gravity test would be a good test. The specific gravity of diamond is 3.52 (3.52 g/cm^3).
NO. Gold is bought and sold in almost every city in the u.s. The second hand market for gold is huge. With the popularity of lab-grown diamonds and how hard they are to tell from mined diamonds and De Beers devaluing the lab grown diamond value, the second hand market is almost non existent. It takes expensive, special equipment to be able to tell the difference between lab-grown and mined diamonds. There for the ease of which gold is sold and how hard it is to resell diamonds gold is a much better investment.
Bobby your face expressions always crack me up bro. You are so much fun to watch. I am launching my Jewelry Business this month finally and I will send over a video for you to have a laugh at. Cheers mate..
I would say, probably not since there’s plenty of other things that can cut glass. I’m actually not even sure if I can do that if it’s not specially pointed. I think that’s just Hollywood magic
I am laughing so hard at the last two. I mailed you recently regarding telling a fake from a real stone for my latest Georgia Pattison Mystery. Fortunately, of all the tests, she can only do the first and I was so chuffed when you confirmed this for me. I've decided to put a link to this video in the story so that anyone can access this information. Thank you again.
This is really good information..(. Have a diamond tester ) But with a moissanite stone.With a diamond tester it will read just like a diamond..⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hope you can create a video like this that can be done for mounted diamonds. More of us will want to test our rings rather than loose diamonds xx
Really interesting..As a child aged about 6 I found what I thought was a diamond ring... Dad took it too the police station and they said it was a fake... they tried to scratch glass with it.
I remember the disappointment... Plus the coppers said if it were a real diamond of that size, it wouldn't be in a silver mount. True enough.
This episode rocked!
Thanks Alec. Lovely engagement ring you made your Fiancé. Congratulations to you both.
Since diamonds are hydrophobic which means they repel water and are attracted to grease I would try some Vaseline first on a wet stone.
Who to find sure price buyer of diamond?
im here because of school
Lmao i see what you did there
Can you please make a video about buying diamonds. Where to buy them, how much is good price, not get scammed, negotiating and etc......
Sadly I dont think they will due to privacy of sellers :(
Diamonds don’t maintain their value, and the entire industry is a whole scam considering de beers artificially inflates the value of the diamond. The colors letters and cuts are all mainly invisible to the naked eye. You should purchase a stone that you love and that makes you feel happy. The perceived value of it is just perceived. Whether the stone is a diamond or not is up to you :) hopefully that helps.
Geese Beemps it is best to educate oneself before buying a diamond. The colour of a stone is definitely noticeable with the naked eye; just compare a D colour to an I or J colour; you will see the difference. The best colour is no colour. No one wants an inferior diamond; they want the best quality for what they can afford.
L S It might not have been clear, but considering the scale goes from no color to Z (literally yellow,) i thought it was safe to assume my comment referenced the visible difference between two letters that are next to each other.
For example: D vs E, or I vs J.
Any of them compared to a single letter above or below is essentially undetectable for a naked eye. Obviously, you wouldn’t compare a D with a N or something. But again, I was referencing the fact that paying more for a letter up because it’s “less yellow” is very scammy since most people wouldn’t even know unless they were explicitly told what letter it was.
Geese Beemps yes, I see your point, and I agree.
These tests only work on cubic zirconia and will not work to separate moissanite from diamond.
Always best to have a professional test the stone but it can detect CZ like you said.
@@BobbyWhite Can you do that test? How to tell diamond from moissanite?
@@AnaluGPrd There's devices for that that check the refraction index of stones using light. Not exactly a household method, but any jeweler who works with diamonds will be able to test this for you.
Sandpaper will scratch moissanite easily, you can also see double refraction if you have a loupe. Synthetic diamond is very different
Jonathon Calleija, moissanite has a hardness of 9.25 so please tell me what kind of sandpaper are you using to scratch it? Certainly nothing average people would have. I know about the double refractive nature of moissanite but the average person would not have access to this type of equipment.
Good to see you back in the videos Tommy!
If you guys ever want an apprentice I'm only in Kent and I have a degree in silversmithing, goldsmithing and jewellery design. I interviewed in Hatton Garden last week but they cast everything and fob it off as genuine handmade, I can't work like that because I want to learn the proper goldsmithing skills and actually hand make real top quality work
Does the heat and water test do ANY damage to the real diamond?
The Floating test only works with certain dense fluids and is highly dependant on which diamond imitation it is. In general all those tests only work to identify Glass, rock crystal, CZ, YAG, Fabulite and similar imitations. Moissanite can't be identified with most of the tests. Very informative nevertheless.
Could probably achieve similar results with a much bigger/longer container..? Maybe unfeasibly big with water though...
Try Lithium Metatungstate (LMT)
I'd love to see you test out "filled" stones against solid ones!
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Hey! My science teacher had us watch this video and record the data for an assignment. This was a really cool video guys
My boy looking like eminem x tom hanks cross over.
Found a random "diamond" sitting in the crawlspace of the house I just bought. Looked really similar to my mom's real diamond ring, and it passed most tests I tried, but after it failed the newspaper test I decided to take a lighter to it (dropping it in the water made the same cool sound that it does in the video). Sure enough it was completely shattered. I crushed it just for good measure.
Tbh I find it interesting the way people dislike CZ and love diamond. CZ is far more perfect in its colourlessness, it is more weighted on the finger, it literally shines brighter or shall I say it makes rainbows and diamond barely does. Diamond often has brown or yellow tinge in the stone and is lighter and less sheer. The only real reason diamond is better is the hardness of the two stones, CZ scratches over time and shows wear and tear, diamond will not show scratches. CZ is an 8 hardness while diamond is a 10. But then CZ is so cheap you could just get another stone put in everytime scratches showed after extended use. Hahah but I guess... “diamonds are forever”.
I love my heavy colourless rainbow stones ♥️
Good video on Diamonds fake or real.
"It's gone misty, it's finished."🤣
Вот сколько работаю ,никогда не бросаю изделие при ремонте или изготовлении горячим в воду либо кислоту,!Уверен,что и бриллиант пр определенной температуре может треснуть от резкого охлаждения!Ну я бы точно так не рисковал))))
Just finished picking through about 10 quarts of river gravels and there were loads of stones. Pink, yellow, red, green, orange, purple, white, all varrying shape and size. I know in my state we have every type of gemstone, excluding Ruby, but not every color. Would the tests work on uncut diamonds? What is a good broad spectrum gem tester?
This is a very nice video! Keep up the good work guys!
What was the grit of the sandpaper you used? Would finer or coarser grits work?
You just need fine
Tfs! Truly appreciate your videos. They are very helpful. I have a question about an issue ive been having and was wondering if you had any advice? So, i recently made a diamond four prong solitaire ring and have been having trouble with the prongs catching on everything and i am afraid i will lose the stone if i wear it. So its put away for now. I made a 22k gold alloy and platinum twist makume gane type of band and a platinum four prong setting. I have cut, polished, and burnished them down as close as i can. And feel if i go any further i will end up not having enough metal to actually hold on barely over the gurtle. (Sorry if my spelling is incorrect.lol)
i love your work bro
That was cool never seen that last test, cool effect too
How about CVD diamond can you identify it
and HPHT🤔
One way to tell if a diamond is real : use a diamond tester😂
Where do you get a diamond tester from?
@@shiettamoore7615bro…. You’re typing this on the Internet right? I didn’t even have to scroll to find one for $10. (keep in mind you always get what you pay for especially with tools.)
Or you can get one for a couple hundred dollars they can’t even tell him between lab grown stones
Final flame test ruin my dreams.. 😅😅😅😂
Thank u gentle men..now maybe I won’t be fooled as much! I enjoy watching and learning from u...
Hi,
Just wanted to know how you got into jewellery making?
I love design technology and product design etc l, and also love jewellery with a passion, i feel like its something i would want to pursue but dont know where to start?
Do you want to work at a jeweler's bench making things every day? Do you want work on the sales floor? Would you prefer to just design?
Which ever one you prefer, there's a different set of schooling and career paths.
you guys are great, tnx for sharing
What grit of sand paper would you use ?
Helpful vid 👍
The newspaper test also work with white sapphire or other white stone?
Always watch your vids
Does this work w lab created vs real diamonds or just cz?
No uv light test? Always like that one
We wanted to just use items that most people will have at home.
Nice Test, 😊 it's possible test for the Black Diamond?
I don't really know about jewelry but this video was very interesting! I have a question, does this test applies to any other kind of "diamond" (I'm sorry, English is not my first language, I don't know the word) Like if I do the same to an emerald I should expect the same?
Nice one guy's
Yeah I'll just quickly stick my diamond in the fridge for a couple of minutes 😂😂
I have a real diamond earrings comparison and its still confusing. I did the UV test, all the little squares making 1 large princess cut reveals a few stones having a glow sediments that holds a charge after the light is removed while other stones in the same set don't yet all are real.
Best take what you to to pawn as they test, they don't need to know you don't intend to but wanted a quote for if you do : )
The tempered diamond looked so pretty 4:16
I found a diamond on a cafe, and i used the lighter technique. Lol, i guess you can figure out what happened next, but fyi it did pass the newspaper test and the fog test. The lighter completely destroyed it.
The one I found passed all the tests. I will try burning it again tho.
Would you recommend lab grown diamond's
What are your thoughts on lab created diamonds?
That's terrific guys - well done. Thank you
Thankyou
Do Silicon carbide sandpaper test Will work to sintetic mossainite?
I would like to know how accurate these tests are I found a stone it passed every test you just did except for the last one it completely shattered after heating it up and dropping it in water
Love it you guys, 4:21 who’s picking that up? 5 ways to go mad looking for a dropped stone
Haha
Great info but how can you tell lab grown diamonds from real minded diamonds???
How do you test a rough diamond ?
How much you think a diamond like the one in the video is worth? I found one doing a plumbing job
Very helpful bros
Very informative info ..ty
Ty for sharing
Hi Bobby and Tommy,
what about lab grown diamonds???
Thx!!
I have a question what is the best way to clean Silver
Hot water, aluminium foil and bicarbonate soda - th-cam.com/video/xTPRLB-1-B0/w-d-xo.html
or - tin foil in a bowl hot water and salt left for 5 minutes stir and remove silver
Mad science😂 Enjoyed it - but will take your expert advice, and take my stone to an expert💫
please talk about lab grown diamonds vs natural diamonds
En lo personal preferiria los de laboratorio teniendo en cuenta el daño de la mineria.
Thank you! I think the point of these videos is just to make sure everyone knows what they’re buying.
And that’s a pretty good reason to
OK... but that cubic looked kind of cool after the burn test... with a coat of epoxy or something to hold it together it might be a "new" kind of accessory! lol.
A lot of fakes (mainly moissanite) also dance and reflect colors WAY to brilliantly
i have it, i tested and its True Diamond, but if tested in news papper its like fake Diamond.... Or cutting diamond makes that?
Bobby what about Lab grown diamonds? Any way to tell if it’s lab grown without expensive machinery.
Brilliantly!!! 👌🏻
Thanks!! 'Really Really Thanks!
So test 3 the stone needs to be cut?
nice for ur information
Use full video guys 👍🏻
Thanks boys .now I am more confident wen going to bay a diamond to terky.
Omg I’m so excited cause I found what I think it might be a real Diamond 💎 I just need the sandpaper test and the fire test but I feel very confident it is a real diamond and if it’s not well I have nothing to lose cause I did found after all
With the sandpaper test, if your sandpaper is diamond grit made from industrial grade diamond dust (grits) it will scratch a real diamond. The grade or grit rating of the sandpaper is dependent on the size of the diamond grits or diamond dust particles used. If you use silica type sandpaper (lower cost type of sandpaper) then it will probably not be able to scratch the real diamond.
I did like your demonstration. I have seen jewellers use the electronic devices for testing diamonds. This device measures the diamond's surface thermal absorption factor to determine if it is fake or not. I have seen fake diamonds for costume jewellery made from clear silica. They are like a very hard glass. There are some types of high quality replica that visually look like a real diamond. I wonder of a specific gravity test would be a good test. The specific gravity of diamond is 3.52 (3.52 g/cm^3).
Now i know my diamonds are fake haha... Thanks for the info
i think with the water test it gonna work if it's made of plastic
This is a great video! I never knew this.
Thanks for making this video
👍
These tests don’t work on created diamonds 💎 because they have exactly the same properties as natural diamonds 💎
Are diamonds a better investment then gold? Why?
NO. Gold is bought and sold in almost every city in the u.s. The second hand market for gold is huge. With the popularity of lab-grown diamonds and how hard they are to tell from mined diamonds and De Beers devaluing the lab grown diamond value, the second hand market is almost non existent. It takes expensive, special equipment to be able to tell the difference between lab-grown and mined diamonds. There for the ease of which gold is sold and how hard it is to resell diamonds gold is a much better investment.
Bobby your face expressions always crack me up bro. You are so much fun to watch. I am launching my Jewelry Business this month finally and I will send over a video for you to have a laugh at. Cheers mate..
Bobby is the serious one, I've seen a few of the videos with him interacting with his other jewelry buds, and he has smiled :)
Can we get one on how to spot a HPHTs and CVDs next time? :)
Is it true that another test for the real diamond is that it can cut glass?
I would say, probably not since there’s plenty of other things that can cut glass.
I’m actually not even sure if I can do that if it’s not specially pointed. I think that’s just Hollywood magic
excellent stuff cheers chaps
Thx so much it helped me with my homework ☺️☺️☺️
That was brilliant
How much it cost?
Very good.
Rocking bro 🤜, keep it up!
I am laughing so hard at the last two. I mailed you recently regarding telling a fake from a real stone for my latest Georgia Pattison Mystery. Fortunately, of all the tests, she can only do the first and I was so chuffed when you confirmed this for me. I've decided to put a link to this video in the story so that anyone can access this information. Thank you again.
Glad we could be of assistance April! Thats lovely- thank you very much!
*Hits fat line*
:Time to make my thumbnail !
I found a few jewels I believe to be real diamonds. I'm wondering if there are any other ways to tell if they're fake or not
Nice
This really helps me since there's a scammer in our house right now. Scamming my parents lol. 🤣
Cool
Time to do these tests nextweek, however it's still mounted and I don't think if I can still place it as is. 😂
Go your local shop. They won’t charge you and if they do don’t pay.
It helped me alooooot
awesome video guys
This is really good information..(. Have a diamond tester ) But with a moissanite stone.With a diamond tester it will read just like a diamond..⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Omg i know my engagement ring is a real diamond but still i wouldn't rub it across sand paper or try to burn it 💎💍😁
But you never know!! Try the lighter lol!
But you never know!! Try the lighter lol!
Only do this if you need reassurance of the love of your fiance.. if he bought it alone..
Man said “breath on it”
And I could immediately hear the angry screams of 1000 Middle Eastern shop owners.
Are you sure about the 5'? thermic issues etc..
Why am I watching this like I have a diamond in my inventory