Atari 7800 (& 2600+) Controller Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2024
- Today we look at over 20 different options if you want to play Atari 7800 games on your Prosystem or your brand spankin new Atari 2600+! Everything in this video I either have first hand experience with or I've done some research into. So what do you need, what game specific controllers are worth picking up, and what should you stay away from? Stay tuned to find out!
Video61 for the Gripstick, CX-30 Evolved Paddles, Trak-Ball & More!
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AtariAge for Seagull 78 and 7800 Mega Adapter and Games!
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Good Deal Games Homebrew Heaven for Proline Coupler!
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Ed Laddin Controllers to make your friends say WOW!
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OGHUGO Ebay Store and Website for the 2 button competition pro!
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Also, please check out Big N Funky Productions TH-cam channel and watch his video on the Commotron Super Turbo and Ed Laddins Super Twin 78 Arcade Stick! All Links Below!
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Super Twin 78 Arcade Stick Review
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Commotron Super Turbo 2000 Wireless Gamepad
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Video61 for the Gripstick, CX-30 Evolved Paddles, Trak-Ball & More!
www.atarisales.com/7800new.html
AtariAge for Seagull 78 and 7800 Mega Adapter and Games!
atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_list&c=29
Good Deal Games Homebrew Heaven for Proline Coupler!
www.gooddealgames.com/inventory/Atari%207800.html
Ed Laddin Controllers to make your friends say WOW!
www.edladdin.com/shop/edladdin-arcade-controllers/3
OGHUGO Ebay Store and Website for the 2 button competition pro!
www.ebay.com/str/oghugosretrogamestore
oghugo.fws.store/
Also, please check out Big N Funky Productions TH-cam channel and watch his video on the Commotron Super Turbo and Ed Laddins Super Twin 78 Arcade Stick! All Links Below!
www.youtube.com/@UCo9Ftz3Ey4OKGXlJPCPr0Uw
Super Twin 78 Arcade Stick Review
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Commotron Super Turbo 2000 Wireless Gamepad
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OGHUGO Gamepad and 2 button competition pro were supplied for a review that will be released at a later date. The upcoming reviews and thoughts in this video are my own and I am not sponsored by nor have I agreed to do a positive review in exchange for any compensation. Good or bad, all the thoughts provided are my own and are the result of testing and using the products.
Also Hugo seems to be listing the NES style 7800 gamepad already for around 35 bucks! That's a great deal if it's similar or even improved from what he sent me!
The best option for me is the mega 7800 adapter. What it has over the seagull 78 is two button sega master system compatibility.
The sega master system controller. Pinout is very simple. If you are a do it yourselfer, you could make your own controller following the master system pin out, and then simply pair it with the mega 7800 adapter. This differs from the 7800 pin out, which is more complicated.
Also, sorry I didn't mention cord length again but here's why:
For Atari 2600+ and even 7800 I always sit close to the console. Because unlike other ones, you often have to flip the reset switch or select. Therefore its not something I think of. But if I get enough comments asking for controller length comparison I'll rectify it!
Just wanted to chime in that my main 7800/2600 controllers I use are my Retrogameboyz NES style controller and my Bratwurst joystick controller. I swap between them depending on the game being played. I did want to mention that I too a few months back starting having issues with my RGBs NES style controller not wanting to register the main fire button all the time. I cracked the controller open and found that his earlier controllers use some pretty weak wire cable in them and the wiring had broken loose on the solder joint for that button. I went ahead and redid all of the wire connections and it has been working great. I've spoke to Mike about this at RGBs and he states it was an issue with earlier controllers but he uses better wire now. So, Jon that might be something to look at just in case your controller has a similar cause.
Thank you that's excellent information to have! I'm glad to know that it's been remedied as they are great feeling controllers and ones I highly recommend. I'll have to see what I can do to fix mine now that you have identified the issue!
5:12 I’m 26. Ever since I first saw this game pad around age 11, I was foaming at the mouth, with bulging read eyes, rocking back and forth in the corner of a room in my grandmas house. I had no money or way of finding a store that would have it. All while everyone’s playing Xbox 360 ps3 I’m obsessively stalking the desire to have this controller to play any game like galaga, even missile command which I loved. And there was a game I was obsessed with a 2d overhead game where you have a sword and there are green blobs you and stuff. I know it’s an nes style now but I didn’t know at the time!!!
Weird fact - the 7800 Gamepad was the controller that came with the PAL Atari 2600 Jnr system in Australia. I used the game pad as a kid when playing my 2600 - and I never knew that it was a 7800 controller. I didn’t even know that the Atari 7800 even existed back then. And I always wondered why this controller had 2 buttons when they both did the same thing for 2600 games
Brilliant fact! Thank you for sharing that's very interesting! Maybe they had a surplus of them? Or maybe they were really proud of them? Very interesting!
Great Video Jon, you have a wide collection of controllers !
What can I say, I'm a connoisseur of 7800 controllers
Helpful video. I picked up the NES-like controller from RetroGameBoyz with the wood grain look to match my 2600+. It works great and looks cool
Great controller guide, Jon! 🕹️
First, I’ll state my personal preference-arcade joystick. No dpad or flightstick for me. I grew up playing coin-op games in the arcades, CX40 with the 2600, and the Wico Redball and Bat with Atari computers.
Before I got the 7800, I tried the Proline controller at PRGE, and I knew right away that it wasn’t for me. I got started on the 7800 with the arcade controller by Retrogameboyz. I loved it so much that I got two more-one for 2P and another with a 4-way joystick. I also have RGB’s Robotron dual stick gamepad. Last year, I graduated from RGB’s controllers to an Edladdin All-Play 4/8 (can switch between 4 way and 8 way by simply turning a plate). I hope to order the twin stick from Edladdin soon. The genuine arcade controller parts used in Edladdin controllers feel better to me than RGB’s controllers that use cheaper parts to keep the price down. RGB’s controller are great, and Edladdin controllers feel even better-you get what you pay for.
As far as paddles go, V61’s CX30 Evolved paddle is the best paddle that I’ve experienced. There’s a slight weighty feel when you rotate the paddle which I can only describe as buttery smooth. If paddles are important to your gaming, do yourself a favor and get them.
I've been wanting to try video61s evolved paddles for a long time. As a 7800 fan I love the idea of having 7800 stylized paddles.
RGB has been making good stuff for years and I learned that they have improved their quality even more recently. I dream of the day I get an Ed Laddin joystick. It's just too expensive for me but maybe one day I'll make some money off this TH-cam thing and get one lol
Also I forgot all about retrogameboyz arcade sticks. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with them. And there's so many options out there it's just impossible to name them all. Regardless thanks for your input!
@@TheAtariNetwork which Edladdin controller would you get? I went with the All-Play because I really wanted a 4-way joystick for Pac-Man and the like. I was trying to choose between the All-Play and the Twin Stick.
@@socrates0603 I'm probably split between the two too. I like the twin stick because I love Robotron and it could be used for Petscii Robots and time Salvo. Along with all the other games while ignoring the other stick. Honestly typing this I think I'd go with that one lol
Awesome video! So glad you mentioned the pro line coupler as it actually makes those controllers useful and I find them to be very responsive. I want to buy an Aladdin twin someday but for now the pro lines do the job. Has anyone done a pause button mod for a controller and system? I know that’s been done on the sega master system.
I remember reading something about a pause button before but I haven't seen it implemented on anything. I'll have to look into it again and find out!
The couplers are great and really affordable. If you already have the Pro lines and like Robotron 2084 it's a no brainier!
I've never been a fan of Ataris controllers after the VCS. Side firing buttons and button mashing games=pain. One of their many mistakes with this console was not releasing it here with the overseas pad.
I do appreciate that Retro gamer boys puts out controllers for obscure systems, but i haven't been impressed with what I've gotten from them. They're pricey and feel like $5, 3rdv party NES controllers, which I'm guessing is what they're based on.
For the money though, the seagull 78 and your choice of sega controller is really tough to beat.
Mega78 also adds the ability to use the Sega Phaser for light gun games which is a plus! I found Meltdown on 7800 actually fantastic using the Sega Phaser where it feels nearly unplayable with the Atari XE Lightgun.
Both Edladdin 78 and Mega78 adapters work on the 2600+ in my experience too. As Sega controllers won't even work on single button games on the 2600+ without those adapters.
The Hyperkin Trooper is a controller I wholeheartedly recommend to left handed players. I use my left hand to hold the stick and my right hand to fire. I cannot use the stick CX40. To me that is managed, ergonomically flawed design. The trooper is superior in every way. Plus it isn’t nearly as stiff.
There you go folks!
I was looking into this just last night, great work!
Great minds think alike I suppose!
Great comprehinsive video bossman. You nailed this.🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!
For single button games, I prefer suncoms tac-2 joy stick.
Having more options is of course a good thing. But to me, playing Atari with Sega, Nintendo or other brand's pads just feels wrong 😅. Anyway, great overview, thank you!
I also have the B&W NES style pad I bought from Retrogameboys, had it a little under a year and it still works like new so far. I really like the Proline, can play any game with them.
I got a chuckle from seeing my review for the Retron controller on Amazon pop up. 😆 Very informative video!
Back in the day my brother just rewired a stick to allow me { a left handed person} just rotate the stick to rotate the button to the other side.
You are some smart cookies!
I prefer the pad for my 7800.
This is a fantastic rundown of 7800 controllers; some I am proud to own and some I never heard off. I did get a Euro pad from Best Electronics for the authentic factor. I added a RetroGameBoys NES style which is a familiar and easy controller for me. I did blow all my birthday money last year for the Edladdin 78 Arcade style controller. I grew up in the arcade and I was willing to spend a lot to get the feel of the arcade. Ed the creator of these high end controllers serial numbers them and I even had him autograph mine. I do NOT plan on getting an arcade 1UP machine, so this brings back the arcade magic for me. Once again: thanks Jon for giving this info in such an entertaining and concise way!!
Ed Laddin stuff is expensive but everybody says it's well worth the money. Glad to hear you got one! I'd definitely get that over an 1up Arcade machine.
Thanks for watching!
I tend to use the CX-78 Europad or CX-40s. The new Atari pads will be a recreation of the CX-78. They are supposed to be available in March and PLAION has already teased an image. The Retrogameboyz dual pad Is great for Robotron. I haven't had any issues personally.
Will there be any improvements on the cx-78?
@TheAtariNetwork personally, I hope that the buttons are less mushy. But PLAION seems to want to replicate feel - at least they did for the CX-40+. However, with the CX-78, there is a lot less nostalgia (at least in the States). Maybe that opens up the door for some improvements.
@@sabertoothretro gotcha. I was hoping they'd move the buttons a bit closer too. In this case I think sticking rigidly to the original is not a good idea...
My go to these days is the 78 seagull/Genesis controller. I don't think the ranger really works on 7800s. Mine doesn't work right on either of mine but it does work on my Retron 77 and Flashback 2. I also have a coupler for Robotron. Mine kind of broke the one you demonstrated looks less prone to breaking? Where did you get that one?
I have a link for the coupler and a lot of other stuff in a pinned comment and the description. It was from GoodDealGames.com but they don't do orders from December through February for some reason. They've held up really well for me but it's 3D printed material I believe!
When i bought my 7800 im immediately went for a euro pad . My only complaint about it is the buttons are spaced a little too far apart. Mine fortunately came with the screw in thumb stick.
Yeah the button placement isn't perfect but compared to the proline controller it's night and day. I used to use my Euro controller all the time but after getting the retrogameboyz pad and now OGHUGOs gamepad prototype it's hard to go back to it.
@@TheAtariNetwork yeah, my euro pad is currently sitting on its stand, haven't used it in a while, I've just been using a 3 button Genesis controller.
Still have my 7800 from Christmas '89
I Opened that Atari Poster & saw those EU Controllers; I was So pissed I couldn't find them anywhere growing up.
I just figured they were an UnReleased Controller until I learned the truth in early 2k's
Still don't have one, but I cannot justify spending $50.00+
Yeah it's a lot especially if you don't play it much. I got them cheaper before but the extra money for the rebuilt ones are totally worth it. At least in my experience!
Also it's so cool that you not only have that memory but you still have your 7800. I always enjoy hearing that stuff. Thanks for watching!
I paid around $30 for mine shipped.
@@madmax2069Where'd you find that?
@@MotownBatman eBay
@@madmax2069 Well damn that didn't take long lol, Well Done
I wish there was an easy way to convert the light phaser in current times. I cannot find an adapter for sale nor instructions on making one. And the Mega7800 may as well not exist.
No love for the Starplex controller? If you’re a fan of Asteroids you have to get one of these. It also works with Space Invaders and other side scrolling, shoot em up’s.
I'll look into it. I definitely didn't cover everything ..
@@TheAtariNetwork No problem. The video was pretty comprehensive.
I just use a CX-78 JoyPad or a CX-24 ProLine
Solid choices I respect it!
I have 2 euro pad controllers. But the second button doesn’t work. It just does whatever button 1 does. So I can only use them with my 2600 weird.
That's weird. Maybe reach out to @ivorytowercollections as he might be able to tell you what to do to fix it or what's going on with it at least...
I bought an OG Hugo joystick. It worked fine on my 2600 plus but did not work on either my Sears telegames heavy sixer or my vintage Atari HK sixer either so I’m returning it
I haven't had any issues with mine so far but I'm sorry to hear you did. Hopefully that's not common
@@TheAtariNetwork yeah I think it’s faulty
@@TheAtariNetwork did yours work on vintage 2600 systems? The buttons are the problem. They didn’t work.
@@frankschalk7790 I tested on 2600+ and 7800 with no issues. But given what happened to you I'm going to pull out my 2600 junior and see if it works
@@TheAtariNetwork yes, great test
I received the Seagull 78 this week, but it does not work. I asked for support or return on atari age and did not get a response.
That's weird but I know Albert has been extremely busy since like July of last year. I would email him again because I know he'll make it right with you. I had to email him once like 3 times and he was extremely apologetic and took care of the issue and I'm sure he'll do the same for you.
@@TheAtariNetwork Who is Albert and where can I contact him? Is he the guy who makes the adapter?
He is pretty much the main guy running the show at AtariAge. You can reach him via the form in his website or pretty much any other contact email you can find. I do admit sometimes you have to attempt to reach him a few times but I promise he will make it right. He's a good guy just a bit overwhelmed if I'm honest. At least that's my take
European here. My two cents of knowledge regarding 7800 pad. They are CRAP. I was really lucky to get one for my Atari St for a steal and they are really uncomfortable. The directional pad is horribly imprecise. Try playing a vertical shoot 'em up with that and you'll see. The buttons are somewhat ok but a farcry from for example the standard NES pad. Also, they are way too far away from each other and a bit "sunken" so good luck pushing both at the same time (not than any ST game needs that to my knowledge, but there's that). Also, it is extremely easy to push more than one direction involuntarily, somewhat similar to what happens with a Master System pad but worse IMO. If yoy feel comfortable with them maybe you'll like the euro pad but my advice is: Don't waste your money on that. As the video says, there are better options.
I wouldn't disagree with much of what your saying but I feel the dpad is much better without the thumbstick. The buttons are definitely too far apart. And yet it's a massive improvement over the proline! This should tell you that Atari really struggled with controllers in this era. And yet my love for the 7800 endures!
You forgot a bunch of controllers! Omg this guy am I right?
Get out of here silverback go make your own controller video! #boycottsilverback
Buy premium joystick or nes style. Best option is the Edladdin Segul 78 adapter and use a sega genesis controller
Cx24 hate