the British presenter is bloody rude. just because u lived in a nice decent posh place doesn't mean we all share the same luxury. living here is survival and how dare you insult their home.
@@hallucinatedovens8414 I grew up in a poor shack without running water, and had a great childhood. The thing people who have lived their whole lives in cushy privilege don't understand is that very poor people can make the best of bad conditions, and tight happy communities can grow out of places like this. You call it a squalid hellhole because it feels good to look down on other people rather than confront the fact that people can be strong and happy despite not having the comforts you enjoy and the things you value.
@@songweaver8638 Just because people make the best of their situation doesn't mean the place isn't a shit hole lol. I didn't grow up rich or privileged either, I've had to sleep with my jacket on during the winter. We made it through but that doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty situation. What you said doesn't prove it isn't a bad a place.
Seriously, this was a popular travel show on the BBC? Is this really the same Alan Whicker that was awarded a CBE from the Queen? They didn't speak to a single Chinese person. It's thirty minutes of British colonizers trying to civilize those heathen Chinese, with a dash of an old guy hitting on every White woman he see's. I really hope the rest of Whicker's show wasn't like this... th-cam.com/video/__y3i2v2G4g/w-d-xo.html
they did a 20 minute interview on the most fascinating piece of architecture in living memory, the most densely populated place that ever existed, and they spend 15 minutes of it talking to English ladies about Jesus.
Ah yes, Alan Wicker. Notoriously belittling of other cultures. His complete lack of deeper understanding of how the city is still a home for many, and the way he constantly belittles the place shows how bad he was at dealing with something not instantly recognisable as 'normal'.
Yes definitely, I also didn't like how belittling he was to the Christian girls, I'm not the least bit religious but they moved there and lived in that city next to their fellow man in harsh conditions and helped people have hope quit drugs and try to turn their lives into something better, that deserves respect.
The walled city was a shithole though. There's another documentary on TH-cam by some germans, where you can see all the live rats, dead rats, cockroaches, mold, people smoking while preparing food, child labour, water running everywhere, stuff falling from the ceiling everywhere, toilets and kitchen sinks placed one meter apart. There was no consideration given to hygiene or working conditions at all. Some guy cut his finger off but was still working 12 hours a day with a bandaged hand, cutting up noodles. There was a kindergarten right in the middle, with no windows or ventilation, only a ceiling fan blowing the stale air around. That's not normal. This was not a place anyone would live if they could avoid it.
@@OtnerNaut child labor in that part of the world is quite common, the fuck are you talking about? It’s all somewhat common in many places in the world, I hate to shit on your narrow knowledge of the world.
@@BombayBerke So what? I haven't said anything to the contrary. Does the fact that child labor exists other places invalidate my point? What did I say to make you so mad? Chill out.
This has to be one of the worst documentaries I've ever watched and sadly about a topic I'm really interested in. The presentation was atrocious, did he really have to be this patronising? He made no effort in hiding the fact that he viewed himself as superior to the poor people of the walled city and his interactions with the British girls were borderline creepy. Furthermore, the documentary made absolutely no effort to show the life from the perspective of the people who lived there. Absolutely hated that two third of the entire documentary was about the drug addict salvation thing, which in itself, was a pretty important aspect of the Walled city, but nonetheless didn't really deserve to be blatantly the center focus of the whole documentary. Finally there were little to no actual, awe inspiring, captivating footage of the walled city that you'd expect to see in documentaries like these.
I have to correct you on one bit--he was straight up CREEPER creepy. He asked a woman working with an interesting religious movement helping drug addicts in the area across the world that he'd come to document whether or not she had a BOYFRIEND. And then asked the next one, the noticeably bigger woman, about her DIET. They're both so obviously uncomfortable, and he's so creepy, and so obviously interested in connecting with them not just in a pervy way but, in a continuation of his condescending attitude, also in a kind of possessive 'western woman remind creep of home must cling' way. 'Not like Sheffield!' Yeah no fuck. I'm horrified by the 'reporter', and that's without forgetting that I'm viewing this through the lens of the past and that things are different. He's fucking creepy in any decade in any city. I bet he used this to make himself sound big to other reporters later: "Well I covered the Kowloon Walled City, yep, went right in and talked to the locals!" What I find unbelievable is that the editor thought this was OK too. Ugh. The Past Was The Worst.
This doc kind of represents the British mindset perfectly, out of touch, acting superior while knowing nothing and making no effort to know anything about the countries it's exploiting. When I was young I actually used to think British people were smart, can you believe that?. As an adult I realise they're actually some of the most uncultured, ignorant and unintelligent people in Europe.
as a women i felt very annoyed and uncomfortable with the interviewer asking such weird and intrusive questions to the women he was talking to. why did he stand so closely behind the woman in 12:18? why did he ask if they were married? he had a really negative, ethnocentric view of the place too. it wasn't a slum....it was a home to many hard working, honest people.
Erin Neal I’m sure she felt really really uncomfortable sitting next to a British interviewer. Whilst in the midst of the Kowloon walled city in a room full of heroin addicts.
I feel like everything he said about the city was perfectly reasonable, but the questions the womens' relationship status can be considered weird for sure and they struck me as a bit odd.
this is fascinating place, but too bad it focused so much on the drug addicts. you could have stayed in the UK to discuss drug addicts. and the presenter is a bit disrepectful.
I agree, I think it should not have focused so much on the addicts, the video starts off with a tour in the walled city and is much more interesting. then after like 10 minutes we get lumbered with the drug dealers which isn't as fun, but it's still a rare insight into the slum. I just wish more time was spent walking round the city with the Aussie, he seemed to know his way around there.
I have to agree. Kowloon is one of the most fascinating places on earth to me, but there doesn't seem to be any documentaries where they show a lot of the inside of it. I'd really enjoy a video of like, a day in the life of a standard inhabitant of the walled city. Too bad it was demolished.
Another good example of POV issues. To the viewpoint of a gweilo, crimes, poverty, lack of social facilities, and the people's living conditions are the norms for documentaries about slums. Be it Kowloon Wall City or Rio de Jaineiro, or maybe Mumbai. This has almost become a cliche that if you do not touch such themes, the director would remiss. On the other hand, I can fully understand how HK people feel about the KL Wall city, a place where many of HK's people started their life - they escaped from communist turmoil in Mainland China, not without struggles, and started their new life in HK, so their hard-working spirit, their determination to earn a place in HK (I think, a typical example would be Tseng Tsou Chou, King of Kowloon ), etc. Anyway, I still feel it is good to have a documentary where I can see how KL Walled City really looked like.
@@S_dott I'm probably going to do it one day but I think it wouldn't be as much as building the world trade center 1/2 scale as I once did. The hardest thing would probably be mapping everything out and trying to build it as accurate as possible
Jerk Interviewer aside (that is disgustingly obsessed about young women being married) - I've met Jackie Pullinger and that woman is the bomb! And as of today her program is still running, and run the exact same way and still helping people get off of heroine.
The interviewer is bad by today’s standers. He’s beyond creepy, if not predatory, with the females he interviews and is incredibly biased about “this awful place.” Instead of leading his subjects to shape the tone of the narrative through thoughtful questioning, he throws out his abhorrence whenever he can, despite their neutral if not positive about their experiences within KWC.
Why won't this guy quit admonishing these women for being single and calling them nuns? They have found a purpose in their life besides a man and are too dedicated to even worry about that. What a creep.
White erasure happened. Truly a sickening thing to see the West fall like this, but it's not too late. Our people have been brainwashed by antiwhites, and people like you who revel in our suffering will not get off scot-free.
I enjoyed going to places like this in 1958-72 with my Chinese friends to visit & meet their friends/family living here. This guy just went there to complain, his words horrible, he lives in fear. He is a prick, surprised he didn't wear a hazmat suit. He never even spoke a single kind word about anything or to anyone living there. Of course, it was crowded, etc. what the hell did you expect? I use to travel with miserable people like this. They were either sick or afraid of getting sick, living in constant fear. Today, so many the same,,,, afraid of their shadow. I never gave much thought about negative aspects. I never felt any fear of safety, etc. I only felt amazed and pleased with the generosity & warm hospitality of everyone. I was always given food/drink/smiles.
@@Marrikable Don't think that excuses the millions of slaves they sold and captured. Or the many slave colonies they had, or the massacre of natives in not just the U.S and Canada but the Carribean as well.
It's interesting how this winds up being less a documentary of Kowloon Walled City and its inhabitants and more a documentary about the lingering effects and mentality of colonial imperialism, even as (relatively) recently as 1980. So, uh, it's interesting and worth watching (in pieces) but not for the reasons I'd gone looking for documentaries about Kowloon Walled City.
WOW. heard about this city and wanted to take a virtual dive in. Not sit through a wanker being disrespectful, prejudice, and just flat out Rude when referring to the city and it's inhabitants.
Lived in Hong Kong when the Walled City still stood....the presenter is a condescending git with no respect for the uniqueness of the place he was "investigating."
Yes after the 5 minute mark the video focuses on the drug centre ran by Jackie Pullinger, this is far less interesting than how the film starts, I too would rather have been taken on a tour around the city by the Aussie, they touch on some interesting subjects and he shows us some interesting parts of the city, whereas the girls in the drug centre just keep speaking about how Jesus is saving the drug addicts. Nevertheless, it's still a rare insight into the city, and people with any interest on the city regardless will appreciate any footage based in it. Plus since the Kowloon walled city ceases to exist, we have to go with what we have unfortunately, and beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Kind of funny he's looking down on the people here but the reason they lived in these conditions was because his country's drug pushing imperialistic and colonialism ways forced on the generation's before. If he was a smart as he acted he would of had a bit of sympathy for them. To me this is one of the most interesting architectural structures ever built. It literally had everything you could ever need.
The time of the British occupation doesn’t seem to have been very pleasant all. The effect of Britain’s drug running was still being very much felt in the 1980’s.
The main reporter guy was pretty smug, condescending and pompous. it seems like he didnt actually research it in depth. Just showed up, read a few books, and "heard" a bunch of stuff. You could tell the guide was really offended by some of the stereotypes and generalizations.
It would be great to get a proper interview with people like Jackie to really try to undestand how do they get in this places and what kind of deals do they have with the local mafias and goverment. They must pay a whole lot of money to the authoroties and drug cartels but its worth it for them because it gives them the "miracle" stories they need to get more money in their homelands
Wow. The woman at 13:47 really saves this documentary. This racist BBC anchor just says a serious of rude things, then he sexually harasses two young women. Thank God for the woman at 13:47 she really puts things into perspective, very smart and faithful soldier ✝️✝️
I wish I would have known this was almost entirely Jesus propaganda instead of a documentary about the subject I was actually looking to learn about maybe the title should be changed
I agree. It is completely off topic. I have no problem with religion and not problem with religious content on TH-cam. But please label it appropriately so we're not forced to sit through it needlessly.
man, i thought this was gonna be an actual documentary about the daily life in Kowloon. Instead it's just the White Man telling the Orientals to be better and believe in a God that doesn't care about them unless they convert. I mean, I know it's from 1980, but damn. All these people are awful. No wonder he got chased out the first time. If you want an accurate depiction of Kowloon, please read the book by Greg Girard. The Christian 'Saviours" were in it for their own self interest. So condescending and gross.
Oh really? Wow. I would like to read about that. I have looked into that book and its hard to find. What were they in it for? I was wondering about their motives.
I like how the vilest, most absolutely putrid millennial phone-brained couch creatures try to call actual humans with empathy "gross." LOL. Those junkies were having such good times on heroin! How dare those girls try to help them! It's so _condescending!_ All of this is just you projecting. You are The Worst Person In The World. Go back to your sterile sunlight-free existence of pornography and "youtubers," slime-creature.
6:25 Sounds like the congregation are singing in English! Couldn't the organisers have at least translated the words into Cantonese or Mandarin, to make it more easily accessible to those in dire need of help and support?
This place simply should have never have existed and is a great example of what could happen if there is no authority or laws enforced. These people worked like slaves in horrible environments, employed by illegal drug cartels and black markets. There is no culture here. I do believe it was in the country’s best interest to demolish these slums. It’s very unfortunate.
I'm sorry for the huge disrespect from my countryman. It would have been good to explore the role of the British in creating this 'squalid' place. The missionaries are very interesting. Why is the interviewer directly behind the Sheffielder. Such an odd and unnerving way to talk to someone. I'm fascinated by the Walled City. If anyone didn't get a chance to check out the game 'Stray, it's a great way to explore the walled city.
If i had a time machine, id replace this guy for this role. mostly squandered opportunity for rare sights and insights. How the hell don't you just take the camera around the halls until your out of tape?
10:51 that poor women. just imagine growing up in the north and then you have to eat macaroni and sauce for breakfast! I'd be alright as I don't eat in the morning!
I remember visiting the walled city - there is nowhere else quite like it that I have been to since. I also went to Hang Fook camp multiple times - amazing place and amazing people.
Who is this beautiful articulate woman at the end of the video? The English lady who moved to the Walled City to work with addicts? She must be about 80 now. Is she still alive? My God, I would love to speak with her.
People who lived there remember it fondly and miss it. That stuff exists everywhere else, but it's just in a more comfortable setting for you. This place shows that humans can govern themselves and that we're capable of living in incredibly different conditions. Your perspective is narrow.
Margo Hannah I agree the video is dominated by that for most of it. Quite disappointed but on the flip side any footage from inside this place is hard to find so it’ll have to do.
He was blatantly insulting the place where people call home. The girls he were "interviewing" were clearly uncomforable. This documentary had so much potential, but was ruined by a shit journalist. You go to a city to learn more about it, but don't even bother with talking to the actual citizens??? I'm surprised this even aired.
That's Journalism/Anthropology. He as a person wasn't there to engage with or present things. He was a selfish vacationer publishing his own edited experience. The value this Nasir captured for us, is constrained by his personal engagement, but derives from the people he connected with who were vividly connected to others. Its a shame he didn't look for more, but in a way his disengagement highlights their engagement. Andrew Callahan would have known everything about the area from local rappers within a day.
And you think you're better than thou for pointing that out about a journalist being objective while citing his being British as the reason, you're a hypocrite two times! Wow you are fkn stupid
Jackie is honestly a god send. being hooked on dope is the best worst thing ever. the begging for 'just one more hit' is very real. w/o her those people would have zero chance getting off junk.
Literally could not have picked a worse TV presenter to send in to this incredible place. All he does is scoff and talk down about everything and everyone. He literally refers to it as "such an awful place". Doesn't even seem to try and find the beauty and mystique in it. This whole documentary just wreakes of old-fashioned self-perceived British superiority. Even the Christian "social worker" seems like she doesn't actually give a shit about the people. She literally says she is just there to turn people on to Jesus, not to help drug addicts. She says she doesn't really care if they get help with their drug problem as long as they find Jesus. The only scum I saw in this video was the smug western/christian people thinking they are better than everyone, not the actual city itself.
6:38 "As soon as they leave if it wasn't for Jesus they'd be back on drugs" What about that poor bloke at 6:17 he didn't stop taking the drugs? EDIT: That's not him praying btw, he's nodding out on heroin, tis true that in that moment in church he is truly in heaven/paradise.
the British presenter is bloody rude. just because u lived in a nice decent posh place doesn't mean we all share the same luxury. living here is survival and how dare you insult their home.
It's a squalid hellhole, I'd love to see you living there
@@hallucinatedovens8414 I grew up in a poor shack without running water, and had a great childhood. The thing people who have lived their whole lives in cushy privilege don't understand is that very poor people can make the best of bad conditions, and tight happy communities can grow out of places like this. You call it a squalid hellhole because it feels good to look down on other people rather than confront the fact that people can be strong and happy despite not having the comforts you enjoy and the things you value.
@@songweaver8638 Just because people make the best of their situation doesn't mean the place isn't a shit hole lol. I didn't grow up rich or privileged either, I've had to sleep with my jacket on during the winter. We made it through but that doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty situation. What you said doesn't prove it isn't a bad a place.
@@songweaver8638 He calls it a hellhole because its a literal slum. I don't see how it relates at all to growing up privileged.
Bedbugs LOL you slept with a jacket on? Wow poor you
This would have been better if the presenter had not come in with such a sense of superiority and just experienced it as it was
Yea he's an arrogant prick
Yeah typical western fuckhead tourists.
That was Alan Wicker's "schtick" - even here in the UK in the 1980s he came across as a throwback.
@@KandiKlover Nah just Brits.
Seriously, this was a popular travel show on the BBC? Is this really the same Alan Whicker that was awarded a CBE from the Queen? They didn't speak to a single Chinese person. It's thirty minutes of British colonizers trying to civilize those heathen Chinese, with a dash of an old guy hitting on every White woman he see's. I really hope the rest of Whicker's show wasn't like this...
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they did a 20 minute interview on the most fascinating piece of architecture in living memory, the most densely populated place that ever existed, and they spend 15 minutes of it talking to English ladies about Jesus.
well said
@@jimajams7080 you the type of nigga to say God doesn't exist when someone says bless you
@@godamitwan Saying 'bless you' is an insult to intelligent people.
Well, what a better way to spread the gospel to a group of people in a very populated place! Well done!
That's because that was a significant part of the cultural change after the drug problem.
Geez can this guy go a single sentence without calling the place a shithole?
He's a rather nice quaint sample of old Britannia.
Ah yes, Alan Wicker. Notoriously belittling of other cultures. His complete lack of deeper understanding of how the city is still a home for many, and the way he constantly belittles the place shows how bad he was at dealing with something not instantly recognisable as 'normal'.
It's a worse culture. It's horrible.
Yes definitely, I also didn't like how belittling he was to the Christian girls, I'm not the least bit religious but they moved there and lived in that city next to their fellow man in harsh conditions and helped people have hope quit drugs and try to turn their lives into something better, that deserves respect.
The walled city was a shithole though. There's another documentary on TH-cam by some germans, where you can see all the live rats, dead rats, cockroaches, mold, people smoking while preparing food, child labour, water running everywhere, stuff falling from the ceiling everywhere, toilets and kitchen sinks placed one meter apart. There was no consideration given to hygiene or working conditions at all. Some guy cut his finger off but was still working 12 hours a day with a bandaged hand, cutting up noodles. There was a kindergarten right in the middle, with no windows or ventilation, only a ceiling fan blowing the stale air around.
That's not normal. This was not a place anyone would live if they could avoid it.
@@OtnerNaut child labor in that part of the world is quite common, the fuck are you talking about?
It’s all somewhat common in many places in the world, I hate to shit on your narrow knowledge of the world.
@@BombayBerke So what? I haven't said anything to the contrary. Does the fact that child labor exists other places invalidate my point? What did I say to make you so mad? Chill out.
This has to be one of the worst documentaries I've ever watched and sadly about a topic I'm really interested in. The presentation was atrocious, did he really have to be this patronising? He made no effort in hiding the fact that he viewed himself as superior to the poor people of the walled city and his interactions with the British girls were borderline creepy.
Furthermore, the documentary made absolutely no effort to show the life from the perspective of the people who lived there. Absolutely hated that two third of the entire documentary was about the drug addict salvation thing, which in itself, was a pretty important aspect of the Walled city, but nonetheless didn't really deserve to be blatantly the center focus of the whole documentary. Finally there were little to no actual, awe inspiring, captivating footage of the walled city that you'd expect to see in documentaries like these.
Hashim Zaman it was the attitude generally of the Brits in HK at the time, I fear
I have to correct you on one bit--he was straight up CREEPER creepy. He asked a woman working with an interesting religious movement helping drug addicts in the area across the world that he'd come to document whether or not she had a BOYFRIEND. And then asked the next one, the noticeably bigger woman, about her DIET. They're both so obviously uncomfortable, and he's so creepy, and so obviously interested in connecting with them not just in a pervy way but, in a continuation of his condescending attitude, also in a kind of possessive 'western woman remind creep of home must cling' way. 'Not like Sheffield!' Yeah no fuck.
I'm horrified by the 'reporter', and that's without forgetting that I'm viewing this through the lens of the past and that things are different. He's fucking creepy in any decade in any city. I bet he used this to make himself sound big to other reporters later: "Well I covered the Kowloon Walled City, yep, went right in and talked to the locals!" What I find unbelievable is that the editor thought this was OK too. Ugh. The Past Was The Worst.
This doc kind of represents the British mindset perfectly, out of touch, acting superior while knowing nothing and making no effort to know anything about the countries it's exploiting. When I was young I actually used to think British people were smart, can you believe that?. As an adult I realise they're actually some of the most uncultured, ignorant and unintelligent people in Europe.
I have to laugh at how bad this documentary is, or else I'll just get angry
as a women i felt very annoyed and uncomfortable with the interviewer asking such weird and intrusive questions to the women he was talking to. why did he stand so closely behind the woman in 12:18? why did he ask if they were married? he had a really negative, ethnocentric view of the place too. it wasn't a slum....it was a home to many hard working, honest people.
Erin Neal I’m sure she felt really really uncomfortable sitting next to a British interviewer. Whilst in the midst of the Kowloon walled city in a room full of heroin addicts.
As a man I'm uncomfortable just listening to the old geezer rambling acting as if he is superior and ignoring all locals he's a garbage reporter.
I feel like everything he said about the city was perfectly reasonable, but the questions the womens' relationship status can be considered weird for sure and they struck me as a bit odd.
How do you know it wasn't a slum, did you ever go yourself?
This old man said fuck the wall I’m gonna hit on these English women , this was strange
this is fascinating place, but too bad it focused so much on the drug addicts. you could have stayed in the UK to discuss drug addicts. and the presenter is a bit disrepectful.
I agree, I think it should not have focused so much on the addicts, the video starts off with a tour in the walled city and is much more interesting. then after like 10 minutes we get lumbered with the drug dealers which isn't as fun, but it's still a rare insight into the slum. I just wish more time was spent walking round the city with the Aussie, he seemed to know his way around there.
thanks for sharing the footage.
I have to agree. Kowloon is one of the most fascinating places on earth to me, but there doesn't seem to be any documentaries where they show a lot of the inside of it. I'd really enjoy a video of like, a day in the life of a standard inhabitant of the walled city. Too bad it was demolished.
AintYourChannel ahh I don't think that would happen because many of the residents were thought to be very reclusive.
Another good example of POV issues.
To the viewpoint of a gweilo, crimes, poverty, lack of social facilities, and the people's living conditions are the norms for documentaries about slums. Be it Kowloon Wall City or Rio de Jaineiro, or maybe Mumbai. This has almost become a cliche that if you do not touch such themes, the director would remiss.
On the other hand, I can fully understand how HK people feel about the KL Wall city, a place where many of HK's people started their life - they escaped from communist turmoil in Mainland China, not without struggles, and started their new life in HK, so their hard-working spirit, their determination to earn a place in HK (I think, a typical example would be Tseng Tsou Chou, King of Kowloon ), etc.
Anyway, I still feel it is good to have a documentary where I can see how KL Walled City really looked like.
This old dude hits on anything that moves, doesn't he?
This documentary is very poor. Could have focused on the city but chose to hang out with the blonde young girls instead.
Therefore is an austrian- docunentary (with Englisch subs) in TH-cam about Kowloon walled City. Watch this. It is better.
It was originally a programme about Jackie and her projects over three episodes...not about the Walled city per se.
Interesting footage, garbage reporting.
*/goes to Kowloon/*
*/only talks to white foreigners/*
Who speak English??
Yeah that pretty much spoiled it for me, hey lets ignore everybody else and go talk to the white saviours....
But they do speak English, most of natives don't
colonialism
Lol
man this guy ruined the whole thing
He's such a fucking Jackass.
@@KandiKlover the place was demolished because the world couldn't handle living in perfect harmony, right?
Agreed
Yo this guy is a creep lol he couldn't stop touching the Brittish woman.
This guy is the stereotypical British imperialist, god damn xD
couldn't have said it better. fkin brit
Monty Python did a great parody of Wicker: th-cam.com/video/Cn8Pua5rhj4/w-d-xo.html
Except for the fact that he's Australian, so...
Roman 213 except the elderly
@@unfazedjae2645 I meant my generation
Imagine seeing an HD version recording of this city and being able to see every little detail
Name's OMEGA I would love that. The only hope is that the city is recreated in a video game of some sort in some way
@@S_dott You can recreate it in minecraft
Name's OMEGA yea hopefully someone does it. I doubt it though would be a mammoth of a task 😨
@@S_dott I'm probably going to do it one day but I think it wouldn't be as much as building the world trade center 1/2 scale as I once did. The hardest thing would probably be mapping everything out and trying to build it as accurate as possible
Name's OMEGA well good luck with that. You sound like you know what to do I look forward to seeing this
I don't like the man hosting the show.
The past is a foreign country
No ones does.
Probably lonely, never had compassion in his life.
Or probably dea.... never wanted to dislike someone more than this guy...
Jerk Interviewer aside (that is disgustingly obsessed about young women being married) - I've met Jackie Pullinger and that woman is the bomb! And as of today her program is still running, and run the exact same way and still helping people get off of heroine.
Probably the most awkward positioning of an interviewer and his subject 10:07
Yes that is very strange.
I think it's cute
@@europhobia3306 creepy fuck
The interviewer is bad by today’s standers. He’s beyond creepy, if not predatory, with the females he interviews and is incredibly biased about “this awful place.” Instead of leading his subjects to shape the tone of the narrative through thoughtful questioning, he throws out his abhorrence whenever he can, despite their neutral if not positive about their experiences within KWC.
🤣 literally read this when the scene changed to that part. My immediate thought was “Why is he standing behind her? She looks uncomfortable” lmaoo
Why won't this guy quit admonishing these women for being single and calling them nuns? They have found a purpose in their life besides a man and are too dedicated to even worry about that. What a creep.
It’s funny because everything he said negative about Hong Kong we can say that in 2019 about London so...
It’s called karma.
Yeah I wonder what caused that🤔 Pretty sure it has nothing to do with Asian and African immigrants🤭
@@kataroquasinzki7383 pretty sure it’s have nothing do to with white peoples not having enough children 🥰
@@wildearth3992 Yeah they should multiply like amoeba so that they can have the quality of life that the Walled City once had👌
London was way worse far before 2019 lol. London was in squalor for centuries and it’s only a modern form of its old self.
White erasure happened. Truly a sickening thing to see the West fall like this, but it's not too late. Our people have been brainwashed by antiwhites, and people like you who revel in our suffering will not get off scot-free.
I enjoyed going to places like this in 1958-72 with my Chinese friends to visit & meet their friends/family living here.
This guy just went there to complain, his words horrible, he lives in fear.
He is a prick, surprised he didn't wear a hazmat suit.
He never even spoke a single kind word about anything or to anyone living there.
Of course, it was crowded, etc. what the hell did you expect?
I use to travel with miserable people like this.
They were either sick or afraid of getting sick, living in constant fear.
Today, so many the same,,,, afraid of their shadow.
I never gave much thought about negative aspects.
I never felt any fear of safety, etc.
I only felt amazed and pleased with the generosity & warm hospitality of everyone.
I was always given food/drink/smiles.
How pervy and rude is this presenter? This man is representing my country...
Congrats :D
@@zizoushifty1483 The UK is the country that is single most responsible for ending the international slave trade. Where are you from, btw?
@@Marrikable Don't think that excuses the millions of slaves they sold and captured. Or the many slave colonies they had, or the massacre of natives in not just the U.S and Canada but the Carribean as well.
@@Marrikable Im from the earth lmao
@@zizoushifty1483 Them and every other culture in the world. They were primarily responsible for ending the international slave trade.
It's interesting how this winds up being less a documentary of Kowloon Walled City and its inhabitants and more a documentary about the lingering effects and mentality of colonial imperialism, even as (relatively) recently as 1980. So, uh, it's interesting and worth watching (in pieces) but not for the reasons I'd gone looking for documentaries about Kowloon Walled City.
that is an interesting way of looking at it!
Such exemplery cultural sensitivity by Alan Wicker.
Should be used as a teaching aid.
fahck, I’m recovering from abdominal surgery, you can’t do that to me
WOW. heard about this city and wanted to take a virtual dive in. Not sit through a wanker being disrespectful, prejudice, and just flat out Rude when referring to the city and it's inhabitants.
Lived in Hong Kong when the Walled City still stood....the presenter is a condescending git with no respect for the uniqueness of the place he was "investigating."
10:09 what the hell kinda sitting position is this
Brilliant description my friend and interesting video 😂
I’m so fascinated with this place I’d love a walkthrough video I wish some one did it
There's one out there from the 80s youll have to look, its half an hour
@@Palendromesounds interesting would be pretty hard to come across
“Have you always been a Jesus lady?” Funniest shit ever
🤣🤣
"Do you have a boyfriend?" Lol just wtf
Already in bits after the first line 'festering slum' 🤣
Hardly any images of the city!!!
The way he is looking at her 10:05 super creepy
Came to watch this after reading Jackie's book Chasing the dragon. One of the most memorable stories I've heard.
Only the first 5 minutes are worth watching.
Yes after the 5 minute mark the video focuses on the drug centre ran by Jackie Pullinger, this is far less interesting than how the film starts, I too would rather have been taken on a tour around the city by the Aussie, they touch on some interesting subjects and he shows us some interesting parts of the city, whereas the girls in the drug centre just keep speaking about how Jesus is saving the drug addicts.
Nevertheless, it's still a rare insight into the city, and people with any interest on the city regardless will appreciate any footage based in it. Plus since the Kowloon walled city ceases to exist, we have to go with what we have unfortunately, and beggars can't be choosers I guess.
I think this is not 1980, at least 1985 because they were talking about after 1997.
P.S. I lived in walled city 8 years when I was a child.
omggg, do you have any memories from there? so cool honestly
The interviewer is like: "My house is bigger than this whole dump"
This guys need to be charged for sexual harassment.
6:45 you know that if that women had enough time and money she would help those guys 24/7
Wow. Impressive lady. Could have seen more of the city but that interview is inspiring!
That lady is 23 yrs old but looks like 50,holy s**t!
are you blind? she looks older, but 10 years max, not 25
That's the kind of chick who becomes a nun.
What a fantastic work those girls did back then....what happened to them? Still working on the field today?
for a video about Kowloon walled city, they sure didn't spend a lot of time showing Kowloon walled city.
I agree. Too much focus on the missionary.
Kind of funny he's looking down on the people here but the reason they lived in these conditions was because his country's drug pushing imperialistic and colonialism ways forced on the generation's before. If he was a smart as he acted he would of had a bit of sympathy for them. To me this is one of the most interesting architectural structures ever built. It literally had everything you could ever need.
6:08 In this video COMPLETES the concept of HELL inside this place.
couldnt have got any decent footage of the city huh?
The time of the British occupation doesn’t seem to have been very pleasant all. The effect of Britain’s drug running was still being very much felt in the 1980’s.
I'm not a religious person but that is one incredible woman. Such determination and love.
The main reporter guy was pretty smug, condescending and pompous. it seems like he didnt actually research it in depth. Just showed up, read a few books, and "heard" a bunch of stuff. You could tell the guide was really offended by some of the stereotypes and generalizations.
who's here because of shenmue 2?
So sad it's gone.. come back and live the nostalgia every now and then but makes me more sad than I can explain that this city is gone.
The lady missionary talked about the part in John of Bible at 11:14 of this video, which I read before going to bed. (message from Hong Kong)
Watched 2 documentary on kowloon city and in both this lady ate more than a third of screentime.
It would be great to get a proper interview with people like Jackie to really try to undestand how do they get in this places and what kind of deals do they have with the local mafias and goverment. They must pay a whole lot of money to the authoroties and drug cartels but its worth it for them because it gives them the "miracle" stories they need to get more money in their homelands
Read 'Chasing the dragon'' and ''Crack in the Wall''-both 1980's titles..Jackie never paid anyone off.
The craziest part is that it doesn’t look much better right outside the Walled City it’s almost exactly the same.
Wow. The woman at 13:47 really saves this documentary. This racist BBC anchor just says a serious of rude things, then he sexually harasses two young women. Thank God for the woman at 13:47 she really puts things into perspective, very smart and faithful soldier ✝️✝️
I wish I would have known this was almost entirely Jesus propaganda instead of a documentary about the subject I was actually looking to learn about maybe the title should be changed
I agree. It is completely off topic. I have no problem with religion and not problem with religious content on TH-cam. But please label it appropriately so we're not forced to sit through it needlessly.
Alecia Wagner wrong! We need MORE JESUS "propaganda" if anything bc He is EVERYTHING!
paulanderson79 JESUS CHRIST is KING of kings!
One of those where you inadvertently learn a lot more about the presenter than the subject.
Props to Jackie. Was that David Cameron in the end?
man, i thought this was gonna be an actual documentary about the daily life in Kowloon. Instead it's just the White Man telling the Orientals to be better and believe in a God that doesn't care about them unless they convert. I mean, I know it's from 1980, but damn. All these people are awful. No wonder he got chased out the first time. If you want an accurate depiction of Kowloon, please read the book by Greg Girard. The Christian 'Saviours" were in it for their own self interest. So condescending and gross.
Oh really? Wow. I would like to read about that. I have looked into that book and its hard to find. What were they in it for? I was wondering about their motives.
I like how the vilest, most absolutely putrid millennial phone-brained couch creatures try to call actual humans with empathy "gross." LOL. Those junkies were having such good times on heroin! How dare those girls try to help them! It's so _condescending!_
All of this is just you projecting. You are The Worst Person In The World. Go back to your sterile sunlight-free existence of pornography and "youtubers," slime-creature.
phenomenal place .So sad it doesn't exist anymore. this year is 30 years ago since it got demolished.
Great stuff !!!
I would have loved to live in this place, there is a strange fascination that I have for the Kowloon Walled City
6:25 Sounds like the congregation are singing in English! Couldn't the organisers have at least translated the words into Cantonese or Mandarin, to make it more easily accessible to those in dire need of help and support?
HK was a British colony then they could probably already speak English
This place simply should have never have existed and is a great example of what could happen if there is no authority or laws enforced. These people worked like slaves in horrible environments, employed by illegal drug cartels and black markets. There is no culture here. I do believe it was in the country’s best interest to demolish these slums. It’s very unfortunate.
I'm sorry for the huge disrespect from my countryman. It would have been good to explore the role of the British in creating this 'squalid' place. The missionaries are very interesting. Why is the interviewer directly behind the Sheffielder. Such an odd and unnerving way to talk to someone. I'm fascinated by the Walled City. If anyone didn't get a chance to check out the game 'Stray, it's a great way to explore the walled city.
If i had a time machine, id replace this guy for this role. mostly squandered opportunity for rare sights and insights. How the hell don't you just take the camera around the halls until your out of tape?
10:51 that poor women. just imagine growing up in the north and then you have to eat macaroni and sauce for breakfast! I'd be alright as I don't eat in the morning!
I remember visiting the walled city - there is nowhere else quite like it that I have been to since. I also went to Hang Fook camp multiple times - amazing place and amazing people.
Say more!
Its creepy how hes talking to the woman around 10 mins in from behind ,she seems uncomfortable.
You could tell he didn't want to be there.
Who is this beautiful articulate woman at the end of the video? The English lady who moved to the Walled City to work with addicts? She must be about 80 now. Is she still alive? My God, I would love to speak with her.
Yes that’s her. Jackie pullinger and yes she is still alive. Last time I checked!
*The racism of the presenters is so evident. Ridiculously unprofessional*
Drug trafficking, sex, murders, money laundering, gambling...you name it! This was the place for the makings of a good Triad crime drama.
Wow, what a paradise!
People who lived there remember it fondly and miss it. That stuff exists everywhere else, but it's just in a more comfortable setting for you. This place shows that humans can govern themselves and that we're capable of living in incredibly different conditions. Your perspective is narrow.
Sad, it was a religious documentary about foreigners, not about the people who lived there.
Margo Hannah I agree the video is dominated by that for most of it. Quite disappointed but on the flip side any footage from inside this place is hard to find so it’ll have to do.
Let's be real though the British are insipidly negative about everything to this day.
He was blatantly insulting the place where people call home. The girls he were "interviewing" were clearly uncomforable. This documentary had so much potential, but was ruined by a shit journalist. You go to a city to learn more about it, but don't even bother with talking to the actual citizens??? I'm surprised this even aired.
Are this apartments and restaurants in one building? 🏢 😬
Yes the whole building was one as a whole
I wonder what ever happened to those nice Ladies from this Documentary?
They seemed to have helped a lot of people out of a very tough situations.
Is this reporter related to Jimmy savile
Idk but he gives off the creeps fer sure
Blood sport brought me here...
That's Journalism/Anthropology. He as a person wasn't there to engage with or present things. He was a selfish vacationer publishing his own edited experience. The value this Nasir captured for us,
is constrained by his personal engagement, but derives from the people he connected with who were vividly connected to others.
Its a shame he didn't look for more, but in a way his disengagement highlights their engagement. Andrew Callahan would have known everything about the area from local rappers within a day.
I agree with most comments about the man and the subject matter, but I honestly would like to know what happened to that woman in 1997.
Had to turn off the sound, what a horrid man! British stiff upper lip, better than thou attitude at its worst!
And you think you're better than thou for pointing that out about a journalist being objective while citing his being British as the reason, you're a hypocrite two times! Wow you are fkn stupid
British cities are objectively better though
THE UTTER SHIET ABOUT ADDICTION PLS LMAO
Jackie is honestly a god send. being hooked on dope is the best worst thing ever. the begging for 'just one more hit' is very real. w/o her those people would have zero chance getting off junk.
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Literally could not have picked a worse TV presenter to send in to this incredible place. All he does is scoff and talk down about everything and everyone. He literally refers to it as "such an awful place". Doesn't even seem to try and find the beauty and mystique in it. This whole documentary just wreakes of old-fashioned self-perceived British superiority. Even the Christian "social worker" seems like she doesn't actually give a shit about the people. She literally says she is just there to turn people on to Jesus, not to help drug addicts. She says she doesn't really care if they get help with their drug problem as long as they find Jesus.
The only scum I saw in this video was the smug western/christian people thinking they are better than everyone, not the actual city itself.
I really enjoyed listening to Jackie Pullinger
This video too "HD" in this era but the content so poor...
My goodness this reporter is terrible!! Loved these ladies, felt the Love from them. God bless you ladies
6:38 "As soon as they leave if it wasn't for Jesus they'd be back on drugs" What about that poor bloke at 6:17 he didn't stop taking the drugs?
EDIT: That's not him praying btw, he's nodding out on heroin, tis true that in that moment in church he is truly in heaven/paradise.
This man seems to be very judgemental
Such a shame letting that arse talk about a historical gem like that. He ruins everything!!! WHy???
How did Jesus freaks get in there?
Princess Nakoruru we're always here.
Would you rather have Allah freaks?
We all know Kowloon was a shithole but for some reason it’s interesting af
Its not about the city its about religion and how religion is whats needed to get off opium and heroin.... yeah ok.
This is the most unflattering, most interesting glimpses into Kowloon I have ever seen. Amazing! And gross! And stuffy...
Whoa, the journalist guy is the most condescending arrogant dude evee
brilliant