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- Embark on a whirlwind journey through time and explore the fascinating saga of the Ice Crown in the Adventure Time universe! Discover the crown's creation, its transformation of Simon Petrikov into the Ice King, and Betty Grof's desperate attempts to reverse its curse. Learn how this epic tale echoes the show's theme of fate's endless cycle.
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Interesting thought: After its first use, the crown kept granting the same wish until it was reset, making anyone who wore it like Evergreen. The second time it was used the wish was to protect Simon. It wasn't reset after that. And when Gunter, who is secretly Orgalorg, got it next, the thing it did (turn Gunter into the Ice Thing) protected Simon (by preventing Orgalorg from ever being a threat to him again).
That's a really good way of thinking of it. I never thought of that. I was honestly confused on why the crown got another wish. Maybe it was a continuity error, but I like to think your theory is right!
I never understood why the clown fused with orgalorg it never did that before so maybe that was also part of Betty’s wish
My theory is that the crown sort of combines the first wish made after-reset + the current wish being made. Gunther made the first "default wish", so everyone after him would have a combination of "being Evergreen" + their own wish. Simon at first only wore it as a joke, and didn't have anything in mind at the moment (being a famous researcher, having his own house, a woman who he loves and loves him equally). However, after Betty disappeared, he got his wish, to find "his princess", which the crown mutated into his obsession with princesses. What happened to Gunther was probably that, a combination of the "default wish" (now being "protect Simon") and his own wish (become the Ice King)
I wonder how much further could we go by resetting the crown and giving it to someone else. We had Evergreen, Ice King, Ice Thing, how distorted can we go from the original Ice Elemental?
@@blightchip4236I like to think it was a way to end the never ending curse, one wish to protect Simon in any methodologically possible way
Ice King was effectively a parody of Evergreen, while Ice Thing is a parody of Ice King. Even more detached from reality.
Ice Thing was still a parody of Evergreen.
Waluigi ass character
Ice thing looks happier.
It also prevented Simon from ever acquiring the Ice Crown again by fusing with the Ice Thing
Honestly the ice things seems to be tamer and nicer than what ice king initially was. Probably because this time Gunther was treated better.
Its funny that the second the ice elemental frozed herself, the ice king came in and took her place as the elemental. It might be like the universe trying to balance itself or something.
I mean yeah he's like a weaker version of her
EXACTLY , the second gen ice elementals were 3 males 1 female and now 3 female and 1 male
after the mushroom war during the apocalypse, i think the oozers (the green goo monsters) were the slime assimilation, and the pink goo was the mother gum. but what happened to the fire elemental then???
@@3ntroverse fire on the buildings idk
Both ice element tried to survive and the other elements aren't on their sides.
Despite Gunter making the same wish the original Gunter did, this time the crown fused with him. I think that was Betty’s wish in action.
I like to imagine a universe in Fionna and Cake which answers "What if Gunter listened to Evergreen's orders and stopped the green comet"
or what if Betty was the one who got the role of being Simon? (using the crown, raising marceline etc.)
@@mptyalln Uhhhhh, Ice Queen.
A good summary, and tying it into the idea of Cycles is a take I admit I haven't seen explored before.
The only thing I'll take issue with is the implication that Betty's wish went "wonky." She tried to wish away Golb in a couple of ways with the crown before she realized it wasn't powerful enough to attack directly, then just wished she had the power to save Simon, "however it has to happen." The tone of her voice and the look on her face suggested a sense of acceptance, as she had to know from all her studies the price she'd have to pay in Madness and Sadness for that kind of power. She may not have known she would fuse with Golb, but she knew whatever was going to happen, "Betty" would cease to exist.
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... damn it, did I just write an entire "Um, Well, Actually 🤓" essay to a Creator on TH-cam who probably already knew all the information in it because of a single ambiguous word choice? AGAIN?!
I have a problem.
Haha no worries, I love when people disagree with me or bring up new points that I didn't realize. I LOVE talking about Adventure Time, so I love stuff like these. Please keep commenting, whatever it may be, I appreciate it so much! But you are right. I think the word "wonky" was definitely used poorly there. Because I do agree, I think she knew what she was doing with that final wish.
@Paxw golb is a fundamental part of the universe he's the anthropomorphic embodiment of entropy. Nothing is powerful enough to erase that. Just like when death "died," death is another anthropomorphic embodiment of a fundamental function of reality. You can kill/change the form of it, but the underlying principle will always exist.
@@paxw37 have you watched distant lands yet?
I think it's interesting how, unlike all the other crown wearers, Gunther actually fused with the crown, effectively preventing anyone else from ever being able to wear it again. Also it's being worn by the Orgalorg, so you've got to wonder how that affects the ice thing's power levels. Maybe that's why it's transformed so much by the time it shows up in the future. It didn't stay the same shape as the other wearers. Maybe it can use the primary function of the crown as many times as it wants since it is the crown? I wonder if someone stole his eye to de-power him?
There is a great theory somewhere in the comments, that after Betty's wish the crown is locked in the "protect-Simon" state
So maybe it's essentially trying to protect Simon by preventing him and anyone else from putting it on ever again
Yeah I never thought of it like this. I just thought maybe the Adventure Time creators ran out of time and wasn't really thinking for the continuity of the show. But knowing the creators, that's probably not the case. You're probably right. I think that it fused so quickly and the crown "disappeared" because it was still protecting Simon. Making the crown no longer wearable to anyone else. I think you're spot on here
well we know what happened to the eye, remember in the finale we see that ice thing’s eye popped out as he proposed to turtle princess in the library
@@calebakerley3466 In sketches/the future we see Gibbon actually has the eye and is protecting the dog kingdom, implying he has got some of its powers due to being able to shoot ice bolts and maybe immortality from it
Gibbon has the eye now.
What you didn't mention is that a bunch of decades after the end of AT, one of Jake's grandchildren, Gibbon, stole one of the crystals from Gunther (now the Ice Thing) in order to live forever and build an authoritarian society where only he has powers and the other pups don't. Beth (from Come Along With Me) ran away from this society and is actively in hiding with the other dude of whom I've forgotten the name. The cycle repeats.
Ice king and the Ice crown have always been one of my favorite aspects of adventure time. The tragic effect the crown had on everyone it came in contact with for to long 😪
Same. Such an interesting relic in the Adventure Time universe, and just the representation of the never-ending cycle
He is the only character they didn't ruin
Betty tho
@acacacacac acaccaca I'm not gunna to lie. I was never much of a fan of Betty, I get her part in everything, but her character itself, I never really liked
@@risinglion1996 thats what happens when you introduce a character out of nowhere and two episodes in she is one of the most powerful characters around and half of the plot revolves around her and a couple episodes more she fused with god
who the fuck was betty? all we know is she loved simon, thats literally it
@acacacacac acaccaca I'll never understand why they went with "Let's make Betty, fuse with Golb!" Truly boggles the mind. It was a cool scene when they fused, tho
Its so weird to think a tiny little character design choice in the beginning would come to fundamentally change Adventure Time forever.
The thing I love about his videos is that they feel more longer than they actually are which I think is a good thing
Thank you!!
With recent revelations, it's astonishing that this one crown was the cornerstone for the fate of no less than three universes
Funny that the crown seems to work on the same "monkey's paw" method as prismo's wish powers.
Makes you wonder where Evergreen and the other elementals really come from. They don't seem to be from the timeline/reality they shown to be in (which I assume on Earth 65 million years ago). The elementals seem out of place in the dino world as if they were banished or stranded there. If all else, they were either from the distant future or another reality altogether. A major clue about multiple realities comes from the book of Enchriridioin. All the princess gems plus the three red gems are connected to the book. The three red gems came from that dino monster that Evergreen fought. So if that event happened first, then the Enchiridion was created after (by who I don't know and Prismo isn't gonna tell). It is also possible that there were more sets of red gems out there (one set for the crown and the other for the book). Either way, magic and technology played a crucial role here.
Yeah you bring up a good question and I've always wondered that myself. I think Patience St. Pim briefly goes over how the elementals came to be, but I think it's very short and still doesn't explain a whole lot. And yeah the Enchiridion is also another mystery. Like was the Enchiridion a relic way back when Evergreen was an elemental? I would love to make a video about that and try and find out!
I always view them like the gumball people and whatever else existed there were all created by the life comet upon landing on earth before the lich resets the world, it would explain why anything has Sapience in this world cause in ours it wasn't that long ago before people gained sapience so them having it kinda makes me wonder then I remember that something has to physically craft them and give them awareness of the world before Lich came and jazzed it all up
1:31 jhjjbjjmm
Well, the Crown did grant Betty her wish in the only way that it could. Golb is a fundamental fact of reality. It's disharmony. It can not not exist. So the only way to make him go away was to make him want to, and the only way to do that was to merge him with Betty.
I keep wondering how the Ice Crown interacts with the elemental cycle. Evergreen was a natural elemental, so was Patience; but in Elements, Ice King was treated as an elemental by her.
I know it's probably that the Ice Crown exists outside the cycle, because Patience never actually died, so the ice element's cycle is probably stagnant until she finally kicks the bucket.
But also the Crown could possibly manifest ice elementals, since it turned its users into Evergreen, an elemental.
Next poll who’s prismo boss
Got it
Jake is
Me
U won't kill his boss as well lich
@@branoss04 ???
You know, Gibbon has one of the gems as an eye, that could explain how he's still alive and also the white fur and moustache. Though it appears he has kept most of his sanity, maybe because he wasnt actually wearing the crown? Something tells me if the world ever gets a Shermy and Beth show, that Gibbon will be one of the BBEGs
After watching The newest Fionna and Cake Episode "Winter King", I like to believe that why Ice King went mad, was His greif from losing Betty and with Winter King not greiving for betty and even joking about her death in his universe (Well as Sane as Winter King can get with putting the insanity of the crown into P.B.). But that's just me
Winter king didnt really overcome tho, he transferred the crazy to PB
Honestly? Seeing these kind of in-depth reviews makes me happy i grew up with Adventure Time.
once betty made the wish to keep simon safe shouldnt the crowns only purpose have been to keep simon safe? So even if gunther put it on, it should have stuck to the same wish like it did in all the years before with the original gunthers wish to be like ice king? or was the crown reset again after bettys wish, because it was a wish that could immediately be granted? someone explain the inconsistency pls
You bring up a good point, and honestly, I think technically the writers made a continuity mistake here. Or maybe I'm missing something, but you're right, the crown should not have reset after granting the wish for Betty
Gunther said sven only wore the crown once, right? But we see many people try on the crown throughout the series. we even see abracadaniel use the power of the crown in the wizard road trip episode. So if all it takes is donning the crown one time to store your consciousness in it's circuitry many more people should be in there.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, even the town they travel through inside the crown looks pretty big. Or at least big enough to support more than the two people we see. I bet you're right though. There are probably more people inside the crown that have worn the crown before
Maybe he's the Scandanavian dock worker
Possibly. I know this wasn’t officially said in the show but once someone questioned how at the end of “thank you”, Jake was able to wear the crown w/o going crazy-if forget if it was in the commentary or w’ever but the writer said the crown doesn’t affect Jake bc he’s already magic. Same w/ when abracadaniel wore it. I guess a better explanation would be that besides the powers, the crown can only affect 1 host at a time, but maybe that’s why there weren’t others in there (at least none that we saw)
I think it only affects one person at a time. We've seen several others have the crown, like Gunther, when he was rebuilding the Ice Kingdom for Oce King.
Seven could've worn it once and started to become the Ice King, but after taking it off and never putting it on again, perhaps it was already too late for him.
After he died, which would reset the Ice King cycle, Simon had already bought it from the Scandinavian Dockworker, perhaps a relative or friend of Sven's, or Sven himself?.
Anyways, after Sven probably died, Simon was the next to wear it, and his curse and transformation was set in stone.
I feel like the crown "fused with the ice thing" because the only thing that could overwrite a wish from the crown would be another wish, so to prevent such a wish from ever happening again, the crown basically made it so that another wish could never be made
Everything stays
Right where you left it
Everything stays
But it still changes
Ever so slightly
Daily and nightly
In little ways
When everything stays
You know what’s sad,princess bubblegum was he’s main princess to steal because she was the closet one that acted like Betty.
I've noticed one thing about the ice king...you know how he kidnaps princesses? What if his lingering memory is telling him that he needs his princess (which was betty's nickname from simon)
I think you're right!
That transition to the BMO video plug was smooth like butter👌🏽
Thank you 🙏🙏
"I MADE THAT ITEM WITH THE MAGIC THAT I STOLE!"
-Ice King
😂
He's technically not wrong...
bro i am a big fan of adventure time and one day i found your channel and i was so happy that there are people who make regular video for this unique animation. Straight forward and up 💪🏼 massive W
Thank you so much bro!!! I really appreciate it!!
Dude, only just found your channel today and these descriptions have me on the floor. "Not so cool" and "pretty clutch" had me in tears
after watching the new episodes of Fionna and Cake, the crown is way way way more significant to the creation of ooo. we literally got the main continuity thanks to a kidnapped dinosaur called Gunther
Tree trunks and mag wood are the same person YOU CANT CHANGE MY MIND!! FIGHT ME !!!!
😂
Ok I'll fight lol! Magwood is a dog tree trunks is an elephant. Also magwood is a lava elemental and tree trunks is an elephant lol. 😂
"In the late 1900s"
*Great now I feel old*
😂😂😂
I can tell this guy loves writing, the alliteration is CRAZY
Just realized that ooo looks like a majestic bird, kind of cool.
1:18 i think he wished to be evergreen but the way he look up to him, thats why he was so poweful that he can stop the meteor
Adventure time would make for an Amazing open world game if done properly
Agreed
I don't get why you had to re-explain the same time twice in the same video. I had whiplash hearing the same thing twice.
Accidentally becomes a facsimile of his Father Figure/ Personal Hero and his immediate realization and the only words out of his mouth in increasing desperate cries....
"Gunther, No!"
Adventure Time show me something odd. I think it was Mark Twain who said it, “History doesn’t repeat but it often rhymes.” In adventure time, many civilizations are ended by catastrophic events. In evergreen, the comment hit. In Simon’s world, the war occurred. Then even in the future, Princess Bubblegum’s civilization ended in some sort of catastrophe. Adventure Time shows of how time itself will repeat over and over again. All good things must come to an end. But it also shows a tragic side to it. Even though Adventure Time has very poignant moments, it’s a message to make the most of life with loved ones. Wether it be for a brief time or a long time. Always love those around you no matter what. Godspeed.
I don’t like being a hater, but, haters gotta hate. This video kind of feels rushed… it never stays on one topic for long enough to comprehend. I am a huge Adventure Time fan being even then I was lost in your conclusions. It also was kinda dumb to tell the story then go back and explain more things in detail rather than tell the story with the details included.
Dino Gunther broke the crown, his wish broke his mind and his mind breaking corrupted the crown.
Evergreen made it clear that if he had taught Gunther some of the magic basics, Gunther could have recentered his mind and fixed things or something like that been a bit since I saw that episode…
The crown didnt change anything really, invented the crown and the wish was wasted, didnt invent the crown and the comet still strikes
Why Simon is the only one that kept alive by the crown despite the other wearers that die is that have something to do with Betty wish also why Ganter doesn't effected by the crown when he wear it when he reconstruct the ice kingdom
You have a talent for hooking your viewer until the end, this is the third video I’m watching because of the post-video links 😂
Thank you! That's something I've been trying to work on a lot recently
Adventure Time's lore is so freaking cool
For it to win against glob ever green was genius
Sad this didn't include more stuff with Ice Thing, Gibbon and the Pup Kingdom vs Ice Thing Lore
I have a whole sperate video about the future Pup Kingdom and Gibbon!
Adventure time if everyone just agreed to get rid of the catalyst comet
0:10 that aint a tyrannosaurus my man
Oh and also if the nightosphere is sustained by chaos then does that mean Golb is the god of the nightosphere
"That boy ain't right." - Evergreen
bro you were really pushin the time limit of this video huh
Gunther really had to put on that crown
Now imagine... What if in one of the dimensions in Fionna and Cake....
That it gets worn by the ONE thing it was created to DESTROY!
Yeah the LICH wearing the crown.. Madness affecting that evil being would be crazy.
Please don't skip the primordial monsters video,🥺
I won't. It'll be a future video, don't worry
@@paxw37 ok thanks i thought you did that instead of it
0:10 "Meet T-Rexes!"
BOI
If the crown reset, does that mean everyone who was in the crown just died?
Sadly, yes. Or at least, I think
why the elemental of ice is always obsesed with not die to the catalist comet?
Good question. Idk 😂
AMAZING how this is all being explained now
So wait does that mean Orgalorg wants to be like Evergreen/Ice King?
Don't know if it was Orgalorg in control or just Gunter in control. But yeah whoever it was wished to be like the Ice King
Something thats always bothered me is the lack of citizens in the ice kingdom. We know the ice king is easy a few thousand years old. He was alive long before the fall of modern civilization. Which means he was always the ice king as far as the kingdom we see in Oo is concerned. He's even talked about "traditions" in the ice kingdom in multiple episodes and talks about himself as if he actually has to shoulder the responsibilities of a leader. So where are his people? We only ever see the penguins which he treats as little more than pets. Its nothing like the parent-child relationships we see between other royals and their people. Even PB who literally created her people from raw materials treats them more like people and citizens than ice king does with the penguins. We're never given a reason or whereabouts to the people of the ice kingdom and whenever finn and jake are seen traveling through it, he rarely runs into anyone and even then, he runs into the odd wild animal or monster. Not a city. Not people. The only thing that makes sense to me is that simon, in his earlier years as the ice king, was unstable and mentally insane. Thats been shown and proven in several flashbacks. He'd black out and do something crazy with the crowns powers before snapping back to reality with no clear memory and a lot of regret. What if, in one of these black outs, he went around zapping all of his citizens into penguins? Its easy to say these penguins despite the ice kings treatment, are smarter than your average bird. They have the same cognitive level of thinking as any other character in the show. Nothing like the wild wolves, birds, and various other woodland creatures we see throughout the show. I never see anyone talk about this so maybe i missed something but idk... Ice king is sus.
7:58 or in other words, everything stays, but it still changes
I blame Gunther for everything both versions but Betty was a real one
If the ice elemental froze herself why would it picc a new elemental if the last one is still alive???
And who came first?? Evergreen or patience?? He was trying to stop the bomb and she froze herself?? How does that work?? Was it 2 ice elements at the same time
evergreen came before patience. he's from the dinosaur era and patience is from around the real world's modern era
I swear it wasn’t me it was the crown 🎵
Of all things he could have created he chose ...a crown ?
i love that he talks like how i imagine someone from adventure time would talk about this stuff
Ty!!!
Wow awesome vid. Thank you
Thank you!!!
Before it was worlds, now it’s realities
ppl forgot that jake might still alive, because he es sleeping giving life to prismo maybe they do something about it idk, plus when lich "die" i say "die" becuz hes head was in the midel, he might still alive but like a cosmic prision thing only this head floatinc around
"the late nineteen hundreds"
goddamn I feel old
😂😂
4:34, if the crown reset would all those peoples minds and memories be erased? Like would past wearers of the crowns consciousness be lost forever, ripped from the universe? does anyone know
This is interesting, because the crown did reset. So I think you're right. I think all the previous people trapped inside the crown AI got erased. But at the same time that could be seen as a good thing. Finally being released from the Crown's curse
i guess that would depend on whether you see them as separate entities (souls) inside the crown or just a part of the crown (data), first scenario the souls themselves are separate, so they would be effected separately, altering them specific to the person (gunther could lose their intelligence as they were a dinosaur given sapience for example) potentially keeping these reduced forms inside the reset crown, or these forms could potentially be reduced to nothing anyways, but if you see them as data, they would definitely be reset as the crown reverts
I love the way you word things, it sounds just like an AT episode lol
ice crown was pretty cool, it could be used during the time without magic.
After 5 minutes you just repeat yourself 👎
Anyone notice how the creature that had the gems as eyes looked like tree trunks and how the comet looked like the litch
Well, what about memory entities of the crown? They will be reseted?
About life in a circle to repeat itself im surprised u didn't further prove it by bring up the.Vampire king and his speach of the wheel of fortune and wanting to break out the repeating cycle
SANTA?!
😂😂
please can you do a theory on magwood and tree trunks? is she a reincarnation of it?
I gotchu. Didn't even realize that at first
@@paxw37 wooo :D
I didn't even knew that giant elephant was Magwood until videos described so. I just thought some random past incarnation that resembled tree trunks came busting in out of fear of the comet.
However, if such is the case maybe Magwood's physical appearance can be deciphered. After all tree trunks did have an episode with the respective element of Fire (Ring of Fire).
It feel like you repeated the whole script twice throughout the video 🤔
Huh, how very fascinating, i wonder why the Crown merged with Gunter?
Why is the crown so powerful to begin with
I also changed my logo to the lich
read it as "how ice cream changed adventure time"
What’s the Curses name because I just wanted to know
my question is why would orgalorg want the crown and why would he be even stronger
The amount of what if in adventure time is many .....
Wait the current ice elemental knows the truth what if she wished her predecessor succeeded and stop the comet 🤔 or would that be a worse can of worms than Finns wish?
Yeah probably... 😅
In like season 1 Jake had the crown on
Hmmm....
Season 3 Episode 17 Jake was wearing the crown near the end of the episode
@@Lodada Yeah, wow, you're right
how ice king like gunter,while dino gunter doesnt?
that's new
Dude ngl but you sound like fun! I like that I found your channel on god !! Do you have a tidi talk ??
literally the whole plot of the hbo show
Wish I could find a girl like Betty
Why didn't evergreen used the crown anyways?
what episode is this
Evergreen. Season 6 episode 24
@@paxw37 tysm
i forgot how disgusting and disturbing this kids show was
Isnt gunter (penguin) also orgalorg too?
SLIMY D ???