This is what happens when one company has a monopoly. They can charge anything they want for a product because they know we'll pay. I came back into the hobby after years of being gone because I missed it... now I'm leaving again because I have other things to spend my money on. When you have to pay $320 for a simple product like this it's no longer worth it.
It’s honestly just the demand for the product. They have to meet the demand but at the same time can’t overproduce products because then the value will go down.
Also i dont think investors are the ones running up the prices. Its the resellers, subscription box dealers, and multibox breakers who sell spots. They are the ones killing the hobby
There are also a few TH-camrs that seem to buy a million boxes of the same product and cause a complete jacking up of the prices. And I'm not talking about Packercards87.
@@jthom0027 Jabs seems to never have an issue getting 5 case plus of anything he wants. Thats the stuff that dries up the supply for everyone else. And there are several others like that. Packers doesnt, and you can tell he actually enjoys the cards
Panini wants the big spenders, not people like you and me. They don’t care about us collectors, they want people investing and driving up the prices. They love it, similar to how video game companies don’t care about the loyal people, they want newer, more casual players to join
The whole “let’s invest in sports cards instead of the market” movement is asinine on two fronts: 1. The only reason the stuff has value is because people are willing AND ABLE to pay for it, once the economy tanks, nobody’s going to have money to buy the stuff anyway, and 2. It’s turning the hobby in to another playground for the wealthy to bully the “normal” folks out of. Can’t we just keep this fun hobby for ourselves? Sorry. End rant.
It's time to take a break from sports cards till they come back to reality , the odds of getting even half the value out of a box is about 10 percent !
At the time I'm watching this, Claypool has had some insane games, James Robinson is a ROY candidate, and Peoples-Jones scored the game-winning touchdown with seconds left to beat the Bengals.
I haven’t been here for a while because I just haven’t been into the hobby. But I bought a box yesterday of 2014 Rookies & Stars and pulled a Khalil Mack Auto Rookie Card and I was like,” I need to get back into the hobby again.” And I did I’ll be here ever time you upload. Your the 🐐 of football cards!
I would say panini sales will bomb. Their products are flawed in a lot of openings I see, damage and points... AND THEY WANNA CHARGE MORE!!!??? FOOT ON THAT!
Tavien Feaster played for Clemson for 3 years as a backup to Travis Etienne and he transferred to USC his senior year. He recently was picked up by the Jacksonville Jags in the free agency.
Got outshined by Etienne. Can't wait to get Etienne/Lawrence next year. In relation to the video, insane that one of his auto pulls was undrafted Feaster who might not even make it out of camp.
I agree with you 100%. Hobby boxes are getting more expensive and the value 90-95% of the time doesn't match or even come close to the price of the box. Its a shame that I see collectors who essentially have to leave the hobby or only do singles because of how prices are going. Hopefully things do come back to earth eventually but this looks to be the new norm
$320 for a college product box is just insane. You need a crazy pull just to break even, and with no guaranteed parallels or on-card autos your odds are worse than ever. I still think there’s good value in purchasing singles but unless you can get sealed products at retail cost it’s a terrible investment.
I actually collect Peoples Jones lol cuz of his name. He was drafted 6th round to the Dawg Pound Browns.. very great pick if u ask me. Punt Returner/ Wide receiver.. thanks for the preview on these. Best of pulls to you brother
Wow. Sorry for your luck on that box. Im staying away from this product. $320 is just a dumb price and isnt fair in the least bit. I buy retail boxes and rip them when I luck into them. Otherwise Im just picking my cards i want and buying them that way. Just think of all the nice prospects that could be had for 320 bucks. Thanks for video. Glad I watched. I was debating getting into a break. This helped me make my decision.
Started collecting memorabilia and cards early last year. I'm at a point where I could've afforded them last year and I was ready to start buying hobby boxes but these prices skyrocketed. Ive seen Legacy and Score jump $75-$100 before even releasing. Was even thinking about starting my own channel. Its disappointing. Keep up the great job though, love watching!
I wander if the prices would be lower if Topps still made football cards so that Panini couldn’t just sky rocket the prices because of the very little competition
I agree with what you said at the end 100% I can't afford to buy any hobby products and that really sucks I couldn't afford a lot of hobby last year and I don't have a LCS near were I live so I'm stuck buying online and I sadly won't be able to get anything unless I buy single cards off of Ebay and I subscribe to the boombox high end and platinum but I have to rely on retail this year big time and that's getting to be a disappointment cause prices are going up but the product isn't going up I'm a collector I don't sell unless I am trying to buy something for my PC and all the younger people are crazy about rookie QB's and it's forcing the price up dramatically sorry for going on and on but it really is a huge bummer I won't be ripping a fraction of what I used to for 20 years smh it's frustrating. Thanks for sharing at least I can watch you rip hobby all year.
It would be nice if there wasn't a monopoly on cards.. Maybe things wouldn't be so ridiculous if Topps, Upper Deck, Sage, etc. could get licensing and there was some competition.. It goes for all sports
Well Bowman has spiked this year but that is resale prices which people buying hoards and jacking up prices will ruin the hobby, Im probably gonna stick to singles and retail if i can ever find any
Tough break on that box. The Mahomes should do well though. I thought Panini was sending you free boxes to open up to kinda give everybody a sneak preview of the product? I mean you are one of the best ambassadors of conducting yourself on TH-cam.
Price is high on the box but you didn’t do too bad. CJ Henderson went 9th overall, second best projected CB behind Okuda. Claypool was a 2nd rounder to Pittsburgh. And DPJ was one of those talented receivers who fell, not a bad landing spot in Cleveland. So not a bad box.
So for people familiar, there’s no way he could recoup anything close to what he paid for this box with what he pulled right? 300+? Even at 100 I’d pause for a box of cards. I preordered a box of Legacy at 100 and it’s being sold for 250 at most sites! No way I open that thing.
These ridiculous price hikes are due to Topps & Panini allowing wholesalers to sell to other wholesalers, each one then marks up the price & by the time the hobby stores gets them its big bucks. Upper Deck forbids that, UD isn't a perfect company but in this regard they're Dead Right. a Wholesaler can only sell directly to a UD Diamond Dealer approved Hobby shop which negates the skyrocket in price
The main problem is Panini control's the football card market and until a competiter like Topps or upper deck get back into making football cards I don't see much changing and it's sad that most collectors are getting priced out of the hobby for myself I will continue just to buy some retail just to get the feeling of ripping some packs and going on eBay and adding a card for my PC now and then way more affordable as always love the vids!
that mahomes scared tf outta me i thought it was a auto lol
Same 😂
Yeah me too
That Hasty. 😍 if you ever wanna sell I’m interested.
Same here, thought it was a Veteran Ticket 😍
Nah, noticed right away it didn't have the "The autograph is guaranteed by Panini..." Line on the back. Ha
This is what happens when one company has a monopoly. They can charge anything they want for a product because they know we'll pay. I came back into the hobby after years of being gone because I missed it... now I'm leaving again because I have other things to spend my money on. When you have to pay $320 for a simple product like this it's no longer worth it.
It’s honestly just the demand for the product. They have to meet the demand but at the same time can’t overproduce products because then the value will go down.
This is not a monopoly lol
Also i dont think investors are the ones running up the prices. Its the resellers, subscription box dealers, and multibox breakers who sell spots. They are the ones killing the hobby
Agreed
There are also a few TH-camrs that seem to buy a million boxes of the same product and cause a complete jacking up of the prices. And I'm not talking about Packercards87.
They kill the hobby too, but investors are just as bad.
I get it though. If I get a box from walmart for instance the panini mosaic I'm definitely gonna sell that to get something more high end🤷♂️
@@jthom0027 Jabs seems to never have an issue getting 5 case plus of anything he wants. Thats the stuff that dries up the supply for everyone else. And there are several others like that. Packers doesnt, and you can tell he actually enjoys the cards
Sup dude , you are the person who got me back into card collecting! Thanks
The hobby is way too crazy the resellers are completely taking over
I feel like they are just trying to push out the casual collector and don’t really care about the Quality of their Products
Panini wants the big spenders, not people like you and me. They don’t care about us collectors, they want people investing and driving up the prices. They love it, similar to how video game companies don’t care about the loyal people, they want newer, more casual players to join
Tyler O This! 😐
Prices are out of control, it has taken me out of the hobby.
c00per 24 yup, I wanted to buy this but $314, no!
I'm out too. Not worth it.
For me it's players only (I have been collecting since 1983) I don't buy boxes anymore since 2000ish just pick them up when show up!
Got one on eBay for 220 bucks
Ya I just bought the blaster box’s instead
They're pricing us out of the market.
And it's absolute bullshit.
It’s so annoying what I bought for 15 now 70 It’s insane
On eBay, blasters are $40!!!
The whole “let’s invest in sports cards instead of the market” movement is asinine on two fronts:
1. The only reason the stuff has value is because people are willing AND ABLE to pay for it, once the economy tanks, nobody’s going to have money to buy the stuff anyway, and
2. It’s turning the hobby in to another playground for the wealthy to bully the “normal” folks out of. Can’t we just keep this fun hobby for ourselves?
Sorry. End rant.
It's time to take a break from sports cards till they come back to reality , the odds of getting even half the value out of a box is about 10 percent !
Amen as soon as i get the last of my mail im packing it up for awhile. This is just out of control
have not bought a box for 3 months. Cannot even find donruss football or leaf. So expensive. I just hate how people resell and buy in hoards.
That would Never happen-.- Panini is crazy and a monopol!
At the time I'm watching this, Claypool has had some insane games, James Robinson is a ROY candidate, and Peoples-Jones scored the game-winning touchdown with seconds left to beat the Bengals.
That James Robinson and clay pool are both insane now
I haven’t been here for a while because I just haven’t been into the hobby. But I bought a box yesterday of 2014 Rookies & Stars and pulled a Khalil Mack Auto Rookie Card and I was like,” I need to get back into the hobby again.” And I did I’ll be here ever time you upload. Your the 🐐 of football cards!
I’m priced out. Thanks for commenting on that. I really like the cards but I can’t get them. Thanks for the video!
I would say panini sales will bomb. Their products are flawed in a lot of openings I see, damage and points... AND THEY WANNA CHARGE MORE!!!??? FOOT ON THAT!
its the resellers and card shops that are jacking the price up, it was not 300 dollars on there web site
Don't forget about their latest way to screw us - expired redemptions.
I wish you were right, but there are those out there who have enough money to buy it all up then “break” the boxes to make a mint. It’s sad man.
It looks fun to open hobby boxes i never have opened one but wish i could
Tavien Feaster played for Clemson for 3 years as a backup to Travis Etienne and he transferred to USC his senior year. He recently was picked up by the Jacksonville Jags in the free agency.
Got outshined by Etienne. Can't wait to get Etienne/Lawrence next year. In relation to the video, insane that one of his auto pulls was undrafted Feaster who might not even make it out of camp.
We opened up some 2020 on my channel recently and I love this draft class. Can't wait for the Pro Uniform cards come out.
DPJ is on the Browns and I’m so excited to see him on the squad
Geaux Tigahs! Go Browns.
Not too bad of an opening looking back on it now
I agree with you 100%. Hobby boxes are getting more expensive and the value 90-95% of the time doesn't match or even come close to the price of the box. Its a shame that I see collectors who essentially have to leave the hobby or only do singles because of how prices are going. Hopefully things do come back to earth eventually but this looks to be the new norm
Prices are red hot, but I like watching this guy with his kiddo.
It's a sad day when PC87 pulls a Dj Chark and doesn't go "do dodo do"
Still a pretty cool video though
Kaboom! Chase Claypool and CJ Henderson are two of my favorite players it was great to see you pull those. Love the vids
Claypool is gnna be a beast, guy works very hard
5:02 what kinda card is that. If you are blind I am talking about the bottom and how there is only one number instead of three
Yea I noticed that they left out his weight and Jersey number must be a misprint
$320 for a college product box is just insane. You need a crazy pull just to break even, and with no guaranteed parallels or on-card autos your odds are worse than ever. I still think there’s good value in purchasing singles but unless you can get sealed products at retail cost it’s a terrible investment.
Have the blaster boxes been released as well?
Cards are SO expensive in quarantine
I actually collect Peoples Jones lol cuz of his name. He was drafted 6th round to the Dawg Pound Browns.. very great pick if u ask me. Punt Returner/ Wide receiver.. thanks for the preview on these. Best of pulls to you brother
Wow. Sorry for your luck on that box. Im staying away from this product. $320 is just a dumb price and isnt fair in the least bit. I buy retail boxes and rip them when I luck into them. Otherwise Im just picking my cards i want and buying them that way. Just think of all the nice prospects that could be had for 320 bucks. Thanks for video. Glad I watched. I was debating getting into a break. This helped me make my decision.
I'm a big LSU fan and was wondering what you are going to do with the LSU cards?
Nice James Robinson!
we might be better off just buying the cards we want on the market what do you think pack fan ??
Started collecting memorabilia and cards early last year. I'm at a point where I could've afforded them last year and I was ready to start buying hobby boxes but these prices skyrocketed. Ive seen Legacy and Score jump $75-$100 before even releasing. Was even thinking about starting my own channel. Its disappointing. Keep up the great job though, love watching!
I bought 1 of these packs and did not get an autograph, did I get ripped off?
I wander if the prices would be lower if Topps still made football cards so that Panini couldn’t just sky rocket the prices because of the very little competition
Any new Davids from the draft?
Few months down the road, that chase clay pool auto is looking real nice now
How can I get that Baylor card from you!!!! So cool!!!
what retail packs are worth buying NOW for investment and best product like lower production in retail stores?
Link to where to get those sleeves? Thanks
Is the Chase Claypool for sale? I’d love to buy it!
Lookin back u got some nice pulls
When does the retail come out
What hard covers do you use?
I pulled a 3/6 chase young autograph out of that box which is pretty insane idk what the prices are on the card though right now.
I want to get back in but the pricing and product simply arent worth it right now.
I guess it's cheaper to send to or have a player sign cards. Or more convenient
LOVE the videos PC 87!
I’m a huge Norte dame fan is there any way I can buy that claypool auto?
Is retail out yet
What do u do with ur base cards
Where did you get the box? LCS?
Is people’s jones for sale?
I agree with what you said at the end 100% I can't afford to buy any hobby products and that really sucks I couldn't afford a lot of hobby last year and I don't have a LCS near were I live so I'm stuck buying online and I sadly won't be able to get anything unless I buy single cards off of Ebay and I subscribe to the boombox high end and platinum but I have to rely on retail this year big time and that's getting to be a disappointment cause prices are going up but the product isn't going up I'm a collector I don't sell unless I am trying to buy something for my PC and all the younger people are crazy about rookie QB's and it's forcing the price up dramatically sorry for going on and on but it really is a huge bummer I won't be ripping a fraction of what I used to for 20 years smh it's frustrating.
Thanks for sharing at least I can watch you rip hobby all year.
How much for the Henderson???
How much for the Chase Claypool??
Are you selling the claypool?
That claypool is going to be on the rise!
That Donaven people’s Jones auto. He’s on the Browns
That’s a lot to pay for and not get any numbered auto at all?! Insane! Always enjoy your videos! Thanks
Damn is that James Robinson sold already?
Where do you get your boxes
As a huge Michigan fan, I am SUPER jealous of that DPJ auto! That's so sick! Great video man.
Is the ROI any good?
Where do you buy cards from? I started collecting when I was very young and have been missing collecting. I'd like to know the best place to buy
Panini strikes again! I haven't bought a box in a couple years and this video justifies my decision.
That claypool is sick!
CJ Henderson was the number 9 overall pick. That’s nice and the receivers are nice as well.
Yo can I buy that chase claypool card from u, I’m a big Steelers fan???
That Claypool auto is looking pretty good right about now.
Yup
I can't agree more about the recent price increase. Thanks for the video
I feel you. I won't buy it just by looking at you in this video. Go Packers. GO JETS. I'LL BUY OTHERS PACKS.
It would be nice if there wasn't a monopoly on cards..
Maybe things wouldn't be so ridiculous if Topps, Upper Deck, Sage, etc. could get licensing and there was some competition..
It goes for all sports
Topps for baseball isnt nearly as ridiculously priced as this is, NT basketball fotl starting price 30k LOL you are nuts
Well Bowman has spiked this year but that is resale prices which people buying hoards and jacking up prices will ruin the hobby, Im probably gonna stick to singles and retail if i can ever find any
You looking to sell the Donavan peoples Jones?
Is it crazy that herbert card pictured him running the ball and not throwing it? Like he was running for a game winning touchdown or something :)
That claypool was so nice
How much for the herbert?
Tough break on that box. The Mahomes should do well though. I thought Panini was sending you free boxes to open up to kinda give everybody a sneak preview of the product? I mean you are one of the best ambassadors of conducting yourself on TH-cam.
Is the dpj for sale
Price is high on the box but you didn’t do too bad. CJ Henderson went 9th overall, second best projected CB behind Okuda. Claypool was a 2nd rounder to Pittsburgh. And DPJ was one of those talented receivers who fell, not a bad landing spot in Cleveland. So not a bad box.
Panini needs to bring back the suggested price this is insane how as soon as it comes out price jumps $200
Brian Ross panini sets that price on their app.
I would like to see a new card collection video. I would like to see how your collection has evolved
Sorry man, love the watching you rip packs.hope the next box you get is blessed with many good pulls.
How much for the Cj Henderson 😳
I don't usually get the game ticket until later in the season that's the early stuff cost more money
So for people familiar, there’s no way he could recoup anything close to what he paid for this box with what he pulled right? 300+? Even at 100 I’d pause for a box of cards. I preordered a box of Legacy at 100 and it’s being sold for 250 at most sites! No way I open that thing.
Your so lucky u got the DPJ!!!! He went to Michigan and I am a big Michigan fan!!! I want to get one of these so maybe I can pull him
AHHH! A Hasty auto too!!?? When I commented I had only seen the card with Mims and Hasty
These ridiculous price hikes are due to Topps & Panini allowing wholesalers to sell to other wholesalers, each one then marks up the price & by the time the hobby stores gets them its big bucks.
Upper Deck forbids that, UD isn't a perfect company but in this regard they're Dead Right. a Wholesaler can only sell directly to a UD Diamond Dealer approved Hobby shop which negates the skyrocket in price
That's why hockey is still an affordable hobby. Exclusive rights deals need to go.
The price on this is nuts.
Nice new product
how much for the dpj or for free, ive ben here awhile? im a huge michigan fan
The main problem is Panini control's the football card market and until a competiter like Topps or upper deck get back into making football cards I don't see much changing and it's sad that most collectors are getting priced out of the hobby for myself I will continue just to buy some retail just to get the feeling of ripping some packs and going on eBay and adding a card for my PC now and then way more affordable as always love the vids!
Good vid it’s hard to collect when I’m in doors but your vids help a lot thank you for make these vids
Crazy how much more expensive contenders is this year, over double the price 🤦🏻♂️
Eventually the bubbles gotta burst
How much for the Donavan people's jones and he went to clevland
yikes, glad I stayed away from this product. Awesome Mahomes numbered card though!! Best of luck next time!
I think that Clyde edwards Elaire will be a beast in kc, he fits right into their offense
It’s insane that panini is making less quantity and charging a lot more.