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and like Charlie, at least in my opinion. He was so so so patient and gentle with Nick for the total of season 1 and 2, does everything to make everything perfect not only for Nick but for each and any of his friends and his big sister, goes all the way out to the point he neglects his own mental health- this of course is very dangerous but to repeat Tori: He is the nicest person in the universe.
the craziest part is that these teenager characters are supposed to be around the same age of characters in euphoria, but the difference is otherworldly. i resonates with that royal white blue letterbox 'the show is so cheesy, but then again i am a rat'
I loved getting to see a show depict struggling with intimacy as a trans person. But also showing a really healthy relationship at the same time, Tao is so fucking supportive
I love how no one in these couples makes the other feel unsafe or unloved on purpose, ever. That doesn't mean they're perfect or don't make mistakes, but they always try to be the best they can be to one another and it's endearing
They are my favorite couple in the show. Love to see this representation ❤ I'm not really familiar with trans people because I don't know anyone like that personally. But seeing their struggles on screen, the journey they have to go through and showing that they are completely normal and valid persons like everybody else is so important ! And omg can we agree that Elle is sooooo pretty ! ❤
Seeing little baby Mr. Farouk DESTROYED me. 😭😭😭 That precious baby needed someone like Charlie when he was younger so much! And the thing about Charlie blowing up at his mom for not letting him stay over at Nick's...that's a normal teenager reaction. It's not because of his mental health, just any teenager would throw a bit of a tantrum. So in a way that was kind of nice to see?? I appreciated that his mom could recognize that she jumps to being angry quickly and easily and that that's not fair. Can't believe it but we finally have some GROWTH from her!
I resonate a lot with Charlie's mom. My mom was very similar in her lack of proper communication. These bits with her actually made me understand how my mom wanted to say things in a nice way but most often failed. I am gonna hug her the next time I see her :)
She also did the same for me but from the younger sibling perspective. Before this season I never really realised how much my older sister cared and tried to help me in my personal hard times. I've never seen her hard times but she's seen some of mine and always did everything she could to help. Damniteven just writing this makes me tear up lol
no fr 😭 and i had depression in high school just like her (i haven’t read solitaire yet but i think that’s a part of it right?), i love her portrayal so much, she’s so real. trying to be cold and aloof but really being so warm and loving? she’s wonderful
I really hope peoples' way of speaking of Charlie's mental health will change because what I've seen is shocking and disappointing and leaves me very worried if people might also speak to actual people suffering from bad mental health in real life, too.
I'm so used to the word 'headboy' that I was confused by your reaction for a second. and then I died cuz you just gave 'headboy' such a different new meaning that I'm afraid I can't take it serious anymore💀
@@DangerousTempest It's basically something like that, yeah. It differs from a student council, but functionally the position is similar in the sense that a headboy/headgirl (my sixth from had both) is responsible for facilitating communication between the student population and the school, and they generally just oversee the other students. Edit: My school had a student council, a prefect body, AND both a headboy and headgirl. Some schools may only have 1 or 2 of these tho, since the responsibilities tend to overlap to some degree.
I think they were foreshadowing a bit with Nicks mental health and codependency with Charlie and college so I think that’ll be explored season 4 if there is one and I’m so readyyyy.
Yeah, I didn’t have to stop school, but I did have to leave early each day for 6 months cuz IOP it did hit I mean a lot of the kids at the clinic did come from rez and were in PHP or had to go back to rez for a few weeks and idk what happened to one of them, which I try not to think about bc he was pretty much my clinic little brother but I never got his phone number and HIPPA
ashley when not giving a fuck about supporting characters in other shows sometimes vs ashley being interested in every character in this show is, periodttt girl. it shows how good of a writing and directing had took place.
46:57 i had sleepovers with my boyfriend when i was 13-14, but my father didn’t know about them. he thought i was going to my friends house, and im pretty sure my mom only let me because she knew i didn’t have any friends and she knew my dad was going to die soon(i know this sounds ominous, but he was sick for YEARS), and that was the only place i had that i could actually be a kid for a little while. (i am now realizing that this is a little trauma dumpy, i apologize. i really was just trying to answer the question, but it took a bit of a sad explanation lol)
not joe locke hijacking our internet mom's channel !! (im living for it i fear) update: 5:05 the way ash literally summed up nick's aunts speech is sending me
47:19 talking abt the sleepovers is so real bc kids in my grade be having sleepovers with their significant others and I’m just shook bc my parents would NEVER. Like it actually baffles me….
@@Luciella_Lou no literally and at first i just heard like the vocals and i was like omg billie and then the second part started playing as nicks looking in the camera and im like oh shit i'm unwell
Not in America? Adolescents seem to mature slower in the US, or at least are treated as immature for longer. You can legally live by yourself from 16, and have your own income enough to support that if you choose to do an apprenticeship or join the armed forces rather than (say) A Levels in sixth form. You’re also no longer a minor. Weirdly, still can’t buy alcohol without someone over 18 present but most counties have inconsistent minimum age laws.
I'm not British, but German. But if you're going to have sex, you're going to have sex anyways. You don't need a sleepover for that. If anything, you're less likely to have sex when you're sleeping over at someones house when their parents are also home. Parents have to make sure to talk about sex openly with their child (consent, safe sex, etc) so they're prepared to make good and healthy choices for themselves. But when your child is sixteen, you won't be able to stop them from having sex if they want to. You instead need them to feel comfortable talking to you about any issues and to listen to you about how they can be as safe as possible. That's how I was raised. I only have one close male friend but I was allowed to sleep over as a teen, the only reason I had to sleep in another room as him was bc his parents were kinda conservative. My parents would have no problem with me sleeping in the same bed. Didn't even blink an eye when I slept in his bed for a few days when I visited him a few years later, either. It was only for convenience and totally platonic, but I feel like many US-Americans are just more obsessed and concerned with sex in general and would read that situation differently, as well.
@@Tessa_Gr no it’s literally just dangerous to sleep at someone’s house as a kid. that’s the easiest way for children/teenagers to be sexually abused by family members.
This season was my favorite so far. Being a bi girl who was bullied and had anorexia, I saw myself in Charlie and Nick. Nick has always been my favorite character, I always identified with him, with his way of pleasing and helping people, but always leaving his own feelings in the background... But, this season, I mainly identified with Charlie, his therapy sessions seemed like mine... the difference is that I didn't have a Nick to support me, but now I do. The video that Tao made for Charlie made me understand how important it is to have someone who supports you no matter what happens. Everything passes, everything gets better 💗
from what you're explaining about your mental illness and gaining weight, i relate so much. i've gained 10 pounds in the past couple months and i come up with a plan in my head to fix it and then do nothing about it. what made you finally go through with your healing journey? i need some motivation. love you ash.
honestly it really all started with a break down i had maybe a month ago and i just knew that this was the breaking point in terms of not only my weight, but my confidence, relationship with others, etc. so for me personally im such a visual person when it comes to my goals so i have a checklist for just about everything right now. workouts, making sure im actually eating meals (i get busy and tend to forget lunch) stuff for work so i don’t feel too overwhelmed, and most importantly i have about 70 sticky notes on my wall right now and everyday i pull one down to motivate myself to keep going and kinda see a finish line almost. i know it takes time to build new habits and change your ways so i almost set like a 3 month period of just focusing and changing what i wanted. no matter what i do in those 3 months, whether it’s perfect or not, will atleast help get me to a better place then i am now and will help the journey become easier. also and probably the most important one is i got a new scale because i know through working out sometimes you can’t rely solely on one number. i got one that measures like body fat, muscle, etc. so if i don’t see that initial number really move, i can look at the other ones and not get discouraged. honestly a lot of it is just pushing yourself until this new pattern becomes normal and you don’t even think about it. it’s been a bit tough ngl just putting so much emphasize and focus on myself as i’m the type to push it away and deal with it later (aka never) but i know it’s what needs to be done you know? good news is i already see such a difference in so many areas in my life and i know it’s only because im finally being a little selfish in life and putting me first. whatever journey you go on or whatever works for you, just know im totally supporting you. good days and bad. YOU GOT THIS !!!
@@urinternetmomash I was wondering what your workout routine is? I’ve been looking for a routine that can actually help me and not make me feel weak unlike a lot of the routines I’ve seen on TH-cam. I’ve gained quite a lot of weight in this past year so I really need to have a plan that can motivate me enough. I love u so so much!❤️
I used to be really hypersexual like to the point where I lost friends because I made people so uncomfortable. Idk why that was happening, if it was trauma or something or because I was virgin until but I just could not stop talking about it and it was awful. This show reallllly helped with that a lot. There’s a lot very sweet intimacy in this show and I feel like shows don’t do that often. It’s like the intimacy comes from two characters talking about how they just aren’t ready for sex and their partner is like “ok but can I still kiss you 🥺” is so freaking sweet!! All that to say I just went cold turkey on sex two years ago and it’s been awesome and I’ve developed some close knit friends now and I’m really happy 😂. I’m so high I might delete this ❤❤ Ugh even the parents and kids. “Love can’t cure a mental illness” Who told them they could say that that just isn’t allowed
i really relate to this, i have bpd and my friends have been so frustrated with me and my hypersexuality the past few years. i’m not sure how to regulate without it or make friends/relationships without it, how did you do it?
@@ryndesu8299 Hi! I've had similar experiences with hypersexuality, though not bpd, when I was younger and thought that sharing a little bit about it might be helpful. I only realised it in hindsight, but my behaviour was an unconscious way of covering up other issues I had, such as really bad depression. In a way, it helped me feel like the depression was more manageable, but being really hypersexual impacted my friendships and relationships negatively, too. These things are so individual, so your situation might be really different, but if I could give my younger self advice, I would tell her that it's ok not to perform in front of people and that it's safe to be sad and talk about her thoughts and feelings. I hope this is at least a little helpful. ❤
this show/season is particularly insane for me because my name is tori and i'm best friends with my younger brother who deals with really bad mental health stuff and has a boyfriend named nick like ur kidding
this season was an emotional rollercoaster for me, they did an amazing job and im praying netflix renews them for a last season at least. i relate to charlie a lot, and to you too also. thanks for talking about your mental health and state right now, it made me feel less alone and motivated me. it’s hard to make changes when you’re just dwording inside and when you have people in your life obsessed with your weight and constantly remind you of how much you’re gaining. i just don’t know where to start sometimes but let’s hang on i guess hahahs
I understand so much your struggle with holiday food, my family is from the south of Italy, and for Christmas, there’s this tradition that you have to eat THIRTEEN, FUCKING THIRTEEN different dishes: multiple appetizers, multiple first courses, multiple seconds, multiple side dishes and dessert. It’s exhausting at times, but at the same time it feels nice? It feels like a toxic relationship homestly😂😂😂😂
so validating seeing someone my age connect to this show, especially as it’s aimed at the younger audience! hope you’re good Ash and thanks for filming this ❤ (your break in ep 4 was so real and i did the same loool)
when i say i was crying the entire season even when completely unprompted and unnecessary. just constant tears that turned into ugly sobs. the whole experience is cathartic but also definitely in need of rehydrating
ever since i read the books, Charlie and I have been one and the same. and i was honestly SO not prepared for how faithfully they adapted volume four. I cried SO many times watching this season, it’s my favourite one yet.
no because david saying that thing about needing attention is literally what my mom said when i tried to talk to her about my mental health🥰🥰 and this kind of things coming from people you're supposed to trust not only makes you feel misunderstood, but actually makes you doubt yourself :(
I loved the season! As someone who relates with Charlie’s struggles is nice to see it represented in a genuine way. Also sidenote, the interviews of Joe and Kit that came out with this season is iconic.
I cried like a damn baby at every single episode this season, good GOD. 😭 Joe Locke & Kit Connor absolutely knocked it out the park with the acting in this one 🔥 And so did Jenny Walser (who plays Tori) because all of her scenes with Charlie made me sob too UUGGGHH.
not that I had a significant other in high school 💁🏻♀️ but my friends and my sister were constantly staying over at their s/o's place, sometimes whole weekends, it was totally normal, sure there were some parents who were less open to it, but from my experience, from a european country - Austria (not to say that you can generalize), it was very normal
I'm from Denmark and it's definitely the same here. Even long distance would be fine and people would fly to visit each other without much complaint from parents.
I’ve zero people to share my thoughts on the show to,so I’ll write em here. I’m a 21 years old boy, living my uni life and have been struggling with depression as well. I’ve always been neglected by my dad first,by occasional friends then,due to not being able to settle long terms relationships and at last by girls(and boys too). You said that watching it was in some kind of way healing,but when it came to me, I was very heavy-hearted. Every sentence,every scene, every romantic interaction was just so convenient. Charlie was surrounded by a great ecosystem,an organ able to work for him. But I wasn’t that lucky at all. And that aches me so bad. So if you’re reading this and can somehow relate, you’re not alone and we all eventually will find our peace of mine
this is my comfort show for a reason. it's so refreshing to have a show that not only shows healthy relationships but also healthy and wholesome LGBTQ+ relationships. this show has always felt like a huge hug to me and helped me through my own sexuality, im so glad it took so long to bring the sexual content to the show because forming that safe and secure emotional connection is soooo important and not talked about enough. i also love the representation of aroace in Isaac! I absolutely love the cast, Kit and Joe did AMAZING and im so proud of how far theyve come!
OH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR THIS ONE, so ready to cry with mother!!, Season 3 was basically me crying for 4 hours straight, it was not what I expected.
Thank you for pointing out what a strong actor Joe is. You're right that he has such expressive wide eyes and his facial expressions are so subtle but so impressive as well. It's subtle shiftings of emotions but it's done so well. Joe clearly is the raw talent Kit's been praising, who of course is the old pro Joe called him.
thank youuu! We're constantly told that we have to have sex for a relationship to work out and it just sucks. As someone who only just discovered that they're asexual(very sex repulsed too😭), I've struggled with accepting it because of this whole idea that sex is what holds a relationship together. I'm afraid that I won't be wanted because I don't want that. I just want to love somebody and for them to love me. There are so many other ways to be intimate with someone else and I really think so many people have forgotten that. I still have a lot of accepting to do but I'm getting there! But, that's exactly what makes Heartstopper so wonderful. Like you stated, it shows us there's so many other ways to love somebody and there's so much more to a relationship than sex and romance. I keep writing these silly long comments about how much it means to me on different people's reactions to season 3 but it really is sort of healing to see something like that when it isn't what's been normalized in our current society, even though it should be. Also, just wanna say a silly cheesy thank you Ashley for being such a comfort to me for so long! I don't usually comment because when I do I just end up typing as much as I did here but you're genuinely one of my favorite people on this platform because you're just so relatable, funny, entertaining, pretty, honest, and so much more! So thanks for that and thanks for making me feel like I have somewhere I can go when I need comfort!!!💕💖 (I'm done now, I promise)
this season truly destroyed me i'm unwell after it. especially as someone who dealt with something similar (however way less severe). and as someone who's also been in nicks shoes wanting to do everything to fix that person when in reality there's nothing you can do😣😫
honestly watching you crying when charlie’s friends do all of those little details and presents to him makes me feel so so sad, mainly cause i feel like i relate to you a lot. when i was in the that phase of my life i also didn’t have any of my “friends” support or anything, and thinking that maybe if they have done what charlie’s friend did to him everything would’ve been different… fuck it rly hurts 😭 i love u ash fr, you make me feel so much better, i appreciate that you also vent with your own experiences a little bit with us too, you’re such an angel to this world 💜
Came here to say this. Although to be fair, other than the one scene of his dad speaking Spanish with the teacher and Nick's dad asking how Spring is a Spanish surname (while he has the very un-French surname of Nelson 😂) its not referenced that much in the show so easy to forget
MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SHOW AS A MENTALLY ILL BEING The first two seasons of this show made me realize the harm I was doing to myself by maladaptive daydreaming and keeping a void open in my life just so only someone (who is as perfect as nick nelson (nobody like that exists)) else can fill it. Even though I have lived as an aromantic outside it was actually me being a huge hopeless romantic (I am also bi and my country and my parents are homophobics so it kinda adds to that) and mentally broken just disassociating (thank you media for lying everyone about perfect love) and creating universes to run away to (I was also rewatching wandavision at that time). I started watching the first two seasons the week before the s3 came out and 2 days before I have started binging, I was diagnosed with adhd and started meds. Knew I have had adhd for a few years now (also have autism but let's not get that deep rn) but getting a confirmation was both a relief and a huge burden. I have made slides about adhd to my parents just so they can know what it is, what is the medication going to do and what can they do to help me through my life because it was very hard to talk about it. And I have went in a spiral of emotions (I usually can't regulate them (autism) and they burst out when I get overwhelmed and such) I was reliving my childhood constantly. Everyone was saying (I am majoring on computer engineering, in 4th grade and have high gpa, also have lived and worked in USA for for months all by myself) it was a miracle I made this far in life with my condition unchecked and how much more successful I could be if I have known it before(I was also one of them ''gifted child''). And that broke me so bad. I have wasted all my life being constantly depressed and in a constant state of anxiety. I was overwhelmed by the all the possibilities of how my life could be and blamed everyone. After finishing s2 I was in a state of depression I have never felt before. The anxiety attacks were getting stronger (I have had them all my life so I have learned to at least ease them till that) and I was no longer able to control them. The depression was so bad I nearly attempted life unsubscription. I have had those thoughts all my life but it was never that close. It was so bad I couldn't mask anymore. Everyone around me has noticed it too (ı was the ''easy child'' no-one ever noticed my struggles I survived all by myself) and when they tried to intervene it became even worse. I felt like I was being a burden to them, my situation was also effecting them. So I isolated myself, locked myself in my room for a week. I watched s3 the day it came out. It made me realize on top of all of that, I also had an eating disorder. I realized that at least for two months I wasn't eating at all (my adhd would make me forget about eating when I was alone so I have basically never had a normal eating habits but I loved food) (yes the meds do make eating harder but I was having problems way before I have started them and they kinda made it better because I have to eat before taking meds). The food disgusted me, especially if there was someone around. Every time I had to eat, It was exactly like Charlie's screen darkening effect. Started lying to my parents and my sister about eating before (I don't generally lie), would change topics when it came to eating and might even be rude sometimes. This is not the only time I have suffered it though. When I was 16-17 there would be times I wouldn't eat anything for 2 days straight. I lost around 20 kg's (44 ish pounds) in about 3 months. I don't even know how I survived or even not hospitalized tbh. Let's add the fact that my mom is exactly like Charlie's mom. Very controlling and most probably have ocd which clashed with my rules and routine needs (autism) and I have distanced myself from her for the last 3 months because of it. After I have finished the s3 I have booked a session with my therapist. After the session I have pulled apart my childhood and threw him away. He was trying to protect me but instead he became my worst enemy so in order to be happy I threw him away. I don't know how much of a good thing it is to do but I have never been happier. Traumas haunts us because we let them to. Because we think that it is what makes us us. Surviving a danger doest mean that we have to be defined by it. Let the past stay in the past because it is nothing but a memory. It only exists if you let it to. And if you let it exist, it will control you. Live in the moment, start a new life. Doesn't have to be a big thing like moving to another country. Just change the colour of your shirt, change your hair, go outside for no reason... You don't own anyone anything, including your past. Let them go and be free. This was my experience with this show. Still not over the e.d. thing but trying to improve. I don't know if anyone has read this comment or not but if you did, know that it does get better. I used to laugh when people say that but you just have to believe in it.
This season BROKE me. I went through an eating disorder at 16 and it is truly hell. The way it affects your body and mind is insane. But the way it affects those that love you is devastating. And the way it doesn’t just get better after being hospitalized or in a clinic program. It is so scary and serious. The way they broke it down was heart wrenching
heavy on the sleepovers thing. Not to rant but I was talking to my friend about it and we came up with very different feelings about it. Sleepovers were a huge thing and I was never allowed to do it as a kid but my friend said it wasnt fair for Charlies mom to say that to him. I was so confused cause he's literally a 16 year old I thought it made sense but it seems like thats not the general consensus?
I think it might be a cultural thing, I'm not British, but I am european (Danish) and it was definitely very normal for people to sleep at their partners place. And even if their parents were really strict, they would just claim to be at a friend's house. (Which were mostly if they hadn't told their parents about the relationship yet)
Throughout the show I think Mrs. Spring's nearly always made very reasonable points, just not expressing them in a likeable way. Like when she banned him from seeing Nick at all until his homework is done I thought that was fair, because Charlie is in school for a reason and needs to focus on his work, and Nick is quite the distraction. She wasn't saying "you can't ever see Nick again", she was saying "you can't see Nick until your homework is done". A realistic timeframe and that treats them meeting up as a reward he can earn. For the sleepovers, again Mrs. Spring was being very reasonable, especially by her standards. She wasn't saying no, she had reservations because when your kid is 15-16 and he's asking to sleep over at someone else's house when he has previously expressed his romantic feelings towards this other person, and probably hasn't yet had SexEd - you do worry. Had Charlie let her continue, she might've said he should wait until after his GCSEs or A-Levels or whatever which, again, isn't saying "you are never allowed to have sleepovers with Nick".
I had a pretty rough mental journey since I was a kid and I'm still treating it, however I get the mom at some extent, cause moms worry beyond our imagination. Her concern about the sleepover was totally justified to me, but maybe that's because I'm Brazilian (moms here are on a hole other level of stress😅). Txh sm for this early post, Ash! Also, hope you may find happiness in the little moments and strength in the big ones❤
What I love about Heartstopper is that the characters can just BE for no reason. I feel like in a lot of media that I consume anyone who's part of a marginalized community has to have a reason to exist while in Heartstopper characters can just be whoever they are.
Fun facts for more context on the whole adult-child dynamic in the UK: - The legal age of consent over here is 16. Your parents have no right to tell you what to do with your body from that point onwards. - Once you turn sixteen, you are considered legally competant and may enter full-time employment, take lessons to drive certain vehicles and, in some cases, can live alone and become completely independent from your parents. The fact that Charlie is so aggravated by his mother trying to tell him what he can and can't do is because, while not at the legal age to be considered adult, he is in fact legally entitled to control of his own affairs without parental intervention except in certain cases such as marriage, which is still possible but only with parental consent. (Yes, I know that's wild but it's a thing and it has been very successful for a lot of people. Not everyone because of varying levels of emotional maturity and growing apart over time but that happens with couples of all ages.) So yeah. That's why Charlie is justified in telling his mother to back off trying to tell him what to do. Legally speaking, she has no right. All my American besties, feel free to pop off about any of this in the replies. I'm sure y'all have opinions. 😂
as someone who's mentally ill, doesn't have the best relationship with food and who's a younger sister and knows how much my sister worries about me, i cried ugly tears during every single episode of this season
46:52 I did have sleepovers with my significant others in high school. My mom wasn't stupid, and just told me to be safe, and to not do anything I wasn't comfortable with. I think her thought process was that we were gonna do what we were gonna do regardless, and that she'd prefer we were just in a safe place instead of sneaking out and going who knows where to do who knows what. I'd usually refer to them as a "friend," and my mom would ask "what kind of friend?" If I didn't respond with their name directly, I'd either say "just a friend" (if they were actually just a friend) or "a _friend_ friend." She knew I was gay, but I only had one official boyfriend in highschool, and that way she'd know what to possibly expect if they stayed at our home. One of my _friend's_ Mom sort of confronted me in a way while driving me home after staying at their house one time, because she saw that we were sleeping in the same bed together when she woke us up in the morning, and it was super awkward.... She asked a bunch of questions about what our relationship was to each other, because he hadn't "slept in the same bed" with another boy since he was little. I didn't really know how to respond, and just told her that the bed was more comfortable and that it doesn't matter.... Like, we fooled around a little and cuddled, but we weren't actually "boyfriends" or anything, and I'm also not gonna sleep on a hardwood floor when there's a perfectly comfortable bed there.. it's also nice to have someone/something to snuggle when you're sleeping (whether it be a person, pet, pillow, stuffed animal, etc) 😂 My Mom also had a similar attitude about partying and stuff. She didn't allow partying in our home, but was usually okay with me going to parties (to a certain extent) at friend's houses as long as she knew where I was going, had met the friend and at least one of their parental figures, I'd assured her that I wouldn't get into a vehicle if the driver had been drinking, and would promise to call if I needed help or a ride home. I didn't always follow _all_ of those rules exactly.... But I think knowing that I wouldn't be too scared to call her if something happened gave us both peace of mind.
42:38 Mother you ATE this up. Preach. (Also thank you for this amazing video, it's carrying me through the anticipation of having to wait for the season finale of Agatha All Along).
Episode 4 destroyed meeeeee I was already tearing up in episode 2 and the end of 3 when Charlie reads his letter to his parents but I was not prepared for 4 😭
I moved in with my girlfriend (now my wife) when I turned 16, we had a house together etc... I am from the UK. I would say its pretty common in the UK for 16 year olds to either move in with their significant other or even just stay over at their house. I know some people from school who got married at 16, so watching the show as someone from the UK its not really a big deal. However I understand how different countries and cultures have differing outlooks on the topic :) also love your videos Ashley
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no girl I was literally rolling around on the ground hugging my pillow just to cope
Girl I had a breakdown after Charlie told his parents what was happening, you’re fine
Definitely not ❤
ash can you please watch outer banks a new season just came out so this would be a good time to start 😋😋
@@urinternetmomash girl no I would never
45:26 "that actually feels a little homophobic, you're going to the gay kid and naming him head boy?" ASHLEYYYY 😭
WELL !!!
That really made me pause the video like AHAHAHA
@@urinternetmomash OH MY GODDD!!! I JUST GOT ITTT!!!
i had to walk around my room for a while hahahahahah oh ashley
SCREAMINGGGGGGGGG LMFAOOOOOO
Nick being Captain America when his aunt is literally Peggy please
😭😭😭
and then u remember how Joe’s mum (Wanda) unalived Peggy in MOM 💀
@@thisis.diegoramirez OMG 😭😭
I’m so sorry but these were all the thoughts that went through my head 😅😅😅
And his boyfriend being in marvel too
WHY MEN CAN’T JUST BE LIKE NICK GODDAMNIT
FRRR😭😭😭
Real😂😂😂😂
So real!
Rightttt❤❤
and like Charlie, at least in my opinion. He was so so so patient and gentle with Nick for the total of season 1 and 2, does everything to make everything perfect not only for Nick but for each and any of his friends and his big sister, goes all the way out to the point he neglects his own mental health- this of course is very dangerous but to repeat Tori: He is the nicest person in the universe.
alice put her everything into tori and charlies relationship theyre so devastating
no like it was feeling a little too personal for me. really had me watching this like: 🧍🏻♀️
no because tori had me bracing myself every time she walked into the room
they remind me of me and brother so I started crying
the craziest part is that these teenager characters are supposed to be around the same age of characters in euphoria, but the difference is otherworldly. i resonates with that royal white blue letterbox 'the show is so cheesy, but then again i am a rat'
they’re 15/16 here and in euphoria they’re 17-19
@@kapikk7they’re 17-18
@@IndigoTulip charlie tao and issac are 15/16 (doing gcse that year) and nick tara darcy and elle are 16/17 (just finished gcse starting sixth form)
i cant relate to the euphoria kids for shit but i relate so hard to literally everyone in this show it’s insane
@@hotdogwater9060literally same
45:25 “you’re going to the gay kid and naming him head boy…” HAD ME IN TEARSSSS
im still crying 🤣🤣🤣
That's crazyyy
"Catch plains not feelings " ..."never mind she's straight " when I tell you I died😂😂😂
but like .. that was iconic !!
I loved getting to see a show depict struggling with intimacy as a trans person. But also showing a really healthy relationship at the same time, Tao is so fucking supportive
I love how no one in these couples makes the other feel unsafe or unloved on purpose, ever. That doesn't mean they're perfect or don't make mistakes, but they always try to be the best they can be to one another and it's endearing
They are my favorite couple in the show. Love to see this representation ❤
I'm not really familiar with trans people because I don't know anyone like that personally. But seeing their struggles on screen, the journey they have to go through and showing that they are completely normal and valid persons like everybody else is so important !
And omg can we agree that Elle is sooooo pretty ! ❤
10:32 the funny part is this line was actually in the comic and not something they added bc of joe being in marvel
Exactly, I remember Nick really likes Iron Man and Marvel stuff lol
Seeing little baby Mr. Farouk DESTROYED me. 😭😭😭 That precious baby needed someone like Charlie when he was younger so much!
And the thing about Charlie blowing up at his mom for not letting him stay over at Nick's...that's a normal teenager reaction. It's not because of his mental health, just any teenager would throw a bit of a tantrum. So in a way that was kind of nice to see?? I appreciated that his mom could recognize that she jumps to being angry quickly and easily and that that's not fair. Can't believe it but we finally have some GROWTH from her!
ur so right baby mr farouk KILLLLEDDD MEEEE
I resonate a lot with Charlie's mom. My mom was very similar in her lack of proper communication. These bits with her actually made me understand how my mom wanted to say things in a nice way but most often failed. I am gonna hug her the next time I see her :)
you have been feeding us good! first Agatha All Along now Heartstopper in one week?!
🍿That’s what mothers do, feed
omg it’s chuuuu
She will be gagged by Agatha All Along episode 5
Ariana, what are you doing here? 😂
ok but where's your Agatha reaction 🤔🥺🥺
Tori got me more than anyone else this season too! They said older siblings, you’re gonna cry!
She also did the same for me but from the younger sibling perspective. Before this season I never really realised how much my older sister cared and tried to help me in my personal hard times. I've never seen her hard times but she's seen some of mine and always did everything she could to help. Damniteven just writing this makes me tear up lol
As an eldest sibling I resonated with Tori so much. Sooo her scenes definitely made me tear up
as a youngest sibling Tori had me crying and wanting to hug my sister, i love her to pieces but i won't tell her
no fr 😭 and i had depression in high school just like her (i haven’t read solitaire yet but i think that’s a part of it right?), i love her portrayal so much, she’s so real. trying to be cold and aloof but really being so warm and loving? she’s wonderful
EVERY ep had me tearing up. kit connor and joe locke did so so good this season! i really loved the way mental health was portrayed.
I really hope peoples' way of speaking of Charlie's mental health will change because what I've seen is shocking and disappointing and leaves me very worried if people might also speak to actual people suffering from bad mental health in real life, too.
I'm so used to the word 'headboy' that I was confused by your reaction for a second. and then I died cuz you just gave 'headboy' such a different new meaning that I'm afraid I can't take it serious anymore💀
I mean I didn’t know it was a real thing in england…..I thought that shit was just in harry potter 😭😭 im french we don’t have that here at all
@@mariannestrgzr9374 its a thing in india too, probably because of colonization 😀
Wait but was she right? Is it like student body president or something?
@@DangerousTempest It's basically something like that, yeah. It differs from a student council, but functionally the position is similar in the sense that a headboy/headgirl (my sixth from had both) is responsible for facilitating communication between the student population and the school, and they generally just oversee the other students.
Edit: My school had a student council, a prefect body, AND both a headboy and headgirl. Some schools may only have 1 or 2 of these tho, since the responsibilities tend to overlap to some degree.
@@exposureeee thank you! That's very interesting, I had no idea
I already know this is going to HURT her especially episode 4
we dont talk about her !!
I think they were foreshadowing a bit with Nicks mental health and codependency with Charlie and college so I think that’ll be explored season 4 if there is one and I’m so readyyyy.
As someone who had to take a break from school due in part to my mental illness this season hit HARD a week after moving home
me literally going to online school to finish high school because my anxiety was taking over my life… it’s a little TOO real
Yeah, I didn’t have to stop school, but I did have to leave early each day for 6 months cuz IOP it did hit I mean a lot of the kids at the clinic did come from rez and were in PHP or had to go back to rez for a few weeks and idk what happened to one of them, which I try not to think about bc he was pretty much my clinic little brother but I never got his phone number and HIPPA
ashley when not giving a fuck about supporting characters in other shows sometimes vs ashley being interested in every character in this show is, periodttt girl. it shows how good of a writing and directing had took place.
I literally cried during EVERY SINGLE EPISODE, i so was dehydrated omg
Me!
Also me
Same! And I also stayed up until 2 am and felt actual physical pain the next day😭
So me😂
REALLL
46:57 i had sleepovers with my boyfriend when i was 13-14, but my father didn’t know about them. he thought i was going to my friends house, and im pretty sure my mom only let me because she knew i didn’t have any friends and she knew my dad was going to die soon(i know this sounds ominous, but he was sick for YEARS), and that was the only place i had that i could actually be a kid for a little while. (i am now realizing that this is a little trauma dumpy, i apologize. i really was just trying to answer the question, but it took a bit of a sad explanation lol)
not joe locke hijacking our internet mom's channel !! (im living for it i fear)
update: 5:05 the way ash literally summed up nick's aunts speech is sending me
47:19 talking abt the sleepovers is so real bc kids in my grade be having sleepovers with their significant others and I’m just shook bc my parents would NEVER. Like it actually baffles me….
blue playing during the halloween party changed me as a person ngl
genuinely shocked me to my core i wasn't ok i had to pause it.
@@abbyo6578 SAMEEEEEE i heard it in the background and was like there’s no way?????
@@Luciella_Lou no literally and at first i just heard like the vocals and i was like omg billie and then the second part started playing as nicks looking in the camera and im like oh shit i'm unwell
Same omg and I hear it live in less than two days
I STOPPED BREATHING 😭😭
girl same here!! definitely NO sleepovers with significant other. i don't know where these kids find their parents/grandparents like????
Not in America? Adolescents seem to mature slower in the US, or at least are treated as immature for longer. You can legally live by yourself from 16, and have your own income enough to support that if you choose to do an apprenticeship or join the armed forces rather than (say) A Levels in sixth form. You’re also no longer a minor. Weirdly, still can’t buy alcohol without someone over 18 present but most counties have inconsistent minimum age laws.
in my experience that was absolutely normal 😅 i did that a lot during hs and all my friends did too, idk maybe it’s cultural (I’m from france)
I'm 19 and my boyfriend has 20 and we can't because of my parents 💀 I'm SO jealous
I'm not British, but German.
But if you're going to have sex, you're going to have sex anyways. You don't need a sleepover for that.
If anything, you're less likely to have sex when you're sleeping over at someones house when their parents are also home.
Parents have to make sure to talk about sex openly with their child (consent, safe sex, etc) so they're prepared to make good and healthy choices for themselves. But when your child is sixteen, you won't be able to stop them from having sex if they want to. You instead need them to feel comfortable talking to you about any issues and to listen to you about how they can be as safe as possible.
That's how I was raised.
I only have one close male friend but I was allowed to sleep over as a teen, the only reason I had to sleep in another room as him was bc his parents were kinda conservative. My parents would have no problem with me sleeping in the same bed. Didn't even blink an eye when I slept in his bed for a few days when I visited him a few years later, either. It was only for convenience and totally platonic, but I feel like many US-Americans are just more obsessed and concerned with sex in general and would read that situation differently, as well.
@@Tessa_Gr no it’s literally just dangerous to sleep at someone’s house as a kid. that’s the easiest way for children/teenagers to be sexually abused by family members.
This season was my favorite so far. Being a bi girl who was bullied and had anorexia, I saw myself in Charlie and Nick. Nick has always been my favorite character, I always identified with him, with his way of pleasing and helping people, but always leaving his own feelings in the background... But, this season, I mainly identified with Charlie, his therapy sessions seemed like mine... the difference is that I didn't have a Nick to support me, but now I do. The video that Tao made for Charlie made me understand how important it is to have someone who supports you no matter what happens. Everything passes, everything gets better 💗
Mom, it's OK to [ugly] cry! We are here ugly crying with you!
24:26 GURL! I read those comics WEEK BY WEEK and this arc was hard to get through! It was like logging into my weekly depression appointment
Omg literally. So rough 😭
this season... applause and cheering all around. every storyline broke me. i also love that they don't create unnecessary drama between the couples 😭
48:07 "LOADS?!" really got me 😂😂
your reaction to nick taking notes is SOOO me girl when i tell you i fell on the floor destroyed inside. WE ALL DESERVE MORE NICKS IN SOCIETY
Once again, the alliest ally strikes again.
from what you're explaining about your mental illness and gaining weight, i relate so much. i've gained 10 pounds in the past couple months and i come up with a plan in my head to fix it and then do nothing about it. what made you finally go through with your healing journey? i need some motivation. love you ash.
honestly it really all started with a break down i had maybe a month ago and i just knew that this was the breaking point in terms of not only my weight, but my confidence, relationship with others, etc. so for me personally im such a visual person when it comes to my goals so i have a checklist for just about everything right now. workouts, making sure im actually eating meals (i get busy and tend to forget lunch) stuff for work so i don’t feel too overwhelmed, and most importantly i have about 70 sticky notes on my wall right now and everyday i pull one down to motivate myself to keep going and kinda see a finish line almost. i know it takes time to build new habits and change your ways so i almost set like a 3 month period of just focusing and changing what i wanted. no matter what i do in those 3 months, whether it’s perfect or not, will atleast help get me to a better place then i am now and will help the journey become easier. also and probably the most important one is i got a new scale because i know through working out sometimes you can’t rely solely on one number. i got one that measures like body fat, muscle, etc. so if i don’t see that initial number really move, i can look at the other ones and not get discouraged. honestly a lot of it is just pushing yourself until this new pattern becomes normal and you don’t even think about it. it’s been a bit tough ngl just putting so much emphasize and focus on myself as i’m the type to push it away and deal with it later (aka never) but i know it’s what needs to be done you know? good news is i already see such a difference in so many areas in my life and i know it’s only because im finally being a little selfish in life and putting me first. whatever journey you go on or whatever works for you, just know im totally supporting you. good days and bad. YOU GOT THIS !!!
@@urinternetmomashstopp ash ur too sweet 😭😭💗
@@urinternetmomashthank you for this ash❤
@@urinternetmomash I was wondering what your workout routine is? I’ve been looking for a routine that can actually help me and not make me feel weak unlike a lot of the routines I’ve seen on TH-cam. I’ve gained quite a lot of weight in this past year so I really need to have a plan that can motivate me enough. I love u so so much!❤️
ASHLEY STAY PREPAREDDDDDD FOR EPISODES 5 OF AGATHA
“heartstopper is not for the mentally ill”
that’s exactly who it’s for ash
BUT IT HURTS
Girl Imagine reading this alone in your room balling your eyes out into a pillow
Imagine reading this with your grandmas in the dark crying together 😭
I read this alone in my kitchen, crying my eyes out at 2am. Wasn't prepared for any of it
Me
ashley’s hair is SERVING oh my god
the way i had to pause multiple times this season to take a break and sob and catch my breath
I used to be really hypersexual like to the point where I lost friends because I made people so uncomfortable. Idk why that was happening, if it was trauma or something or because I was virgin until but I just could not stop talking about it and it was awful. This show reallllly helped with that a lot. There’s a lot very sweet intimacy in this show and I feel like shows don’t do that often. It’s like the intimacy comes from two characters talking about how they just aren’t ready for sex and their partner is like “ok but can I still kiss you 🥺” is so freaking sweet!! All that to say I just went cold turkey on sex two years ago and it’s been awesome and I’ve developed some close knit friends now and I’m really happy 😂. I’m so high I might delete this ❤❤
Ugh even the parents and kids. “Love can’t cure a mental illness” Who told them they could say that that just isn’t allowed
i really relate to this, i have bpd and my friends have been so frustrated with me and my hypersexuality the past few years. i’m not sure how to regulate without it or make friends/relationships without it, how did you do it?
@@ryndesu8299 Hi! I've had similar experiences with hypersexuality, though not bpd, when I was younger and thought that sharing a little bit about it might be helpful. I only realised it in hindsight, but my behaviour was an unconscious way of covering up other issues I had, such as really bad depression. In a way, it helped me feel like the depression was more manageable, but being really hypersexual impacted my friendships and relationships negatively, too. These things are so individual, so your situation might be really different, but if I could give my younger self advice, I would tell her that it's ok not to perform in front of people and that it's safe to be sad and talk about her thoughts and feelings. I hope this is at least a little helpful. ❤
this show/season is particularly insane for me because my name is tori and i'm best friends with my younger brother who deals with really bad mental health stuff and has a boyfriend named nick like ur kidding
burnt myself with a curling iron clicking the notif omg
this season was an emotional rollercoaster for me, they did an amazing job and im praying netflix renews them for a last season at least. i relate to charlie a lot, and to you too also. thanks for talking about your mental health and state right now, it made me feel less alone and motivated me. it’s hard to make changes when you’re just dwording inside and when you have people in your life obsessed with your weight and constantly remind you of how much you’re gaining. i just don’t know where to start sometimes but let’s hang on i guess hahahs
the best thing to do is talk about it and if i can make you feel less alone (and vice versa) then it is worth it 💓
@@urinternetmomashyou’re the best istg ❤
i've literally been looking everyday whether you've reacted to season 3 yet and watched all your old heartstopper reactions last night
I understand so much your struggle with holiday food, my family is from the south of Italy, and for Christmas, there’s this tradition that you have to eat THIRTEEN, FUCKING THIRTEEN different dishes: multiple appetizers, multiple first courses, multiple seconds, multiple side dishes and dessert. It’s exhausting at times, but at the same time it feels nice? It feels like a toxic relationship homestly😂😂😂😂
end of ep 3 when Charlie gives his parents the letter is actually what got me 😖 given a letter like that before so yeah... I sobbed (I'm good now:))
When I tell you this season hit waaaay to close to home for me. I cried every episode. I was Charlie back then and ugh this season was just beautiful
watching the whole season in one sitting is SO me and i'm SO sat
so validating seeing someone my age connect to this show, especially as it’s aimed at the younger audience! hope you’re good Ash and thanks for filming this ❤ (your break in ep 4 was so real and i did the same loool)
thank you so much i was having an awful day and this just made me so happy :)
hope i can help make it a little better
when i say i was crying the entire season even when completely unprompted and unnecessary. just constant tears that turned into ugly sobs. the whole experience is cathartic but also definitely in need of rehydrating
BUT OMG THE ENVOLVING OF THE ACTING?! INSANE ESP ON JOE AND KIT
ever since i read the books, Charlie and I have been one and the same. and i was honestly SO not prepared for how faithfully they adapted volume four. I cried SO many times watching this season, it’s my favourite one yet.
STOP I CRIED SO MUCH WHEN I WATCHED IT
Fr tho, this season was so much more real and heavy, and I love it, but also calm down I can't cry anymore, I've run out 😭😂
no because david saying that thing about needing attention is literally what my mom said when i tried to talk to her about my mental health🥰🥰 and this kind of things coming from people you're supposed to trust not only makes you feel misunderstood, but actually makes you doubt yourself :(
My mum gaslit me for years over this, probably in the hopes the mental illness would just go away. Surprise! It didn’t!
@@AmyAberrant 🥲
I loved the season! As someone who relates with Charlie’s struggles is nice to see it represented in a genuine way. Also sidenote, the interviews of Joe and Kit that came out with this season is iconic.
I updated my friend at the end of each episode how many times I sobbed. It was a total of 15.
i probably sobbed a similar amount of times. I kept pausing and crying
Oh yeah this season was tough I WASN’T prepared
this season BROKE me 😭💔
Mother is feeding us with 50 minutes
their choice to use black friday (and BLUE during the party scene too ) was criminal, I was done for
I cried like a damn baby at every single episode this season, good GOD. 😭 Joe Locke & Kit Connor absolutely knocked it out the park with the acting in this one 🔥 And so did Jenny Walser (who plays Tori) because all of her scenes with Charlie made me sob too UUGGGHH.
Joe doing double duty on the channel back to back
no he has this channel pretty much on lock this month
@@urinternetmomashno pun intended?? (Lock)
1:27 (lol) it is very sweet and corny but considering some of the deep topics they cover this season, the sweetness absolutely balances it perfectly
im going through my own lil journey after years of doing nothing about my mental health, there are many of us here with you, girlie
not that I had a significant other in high school 💁🏻♀️ but my friends and my sister were constantly staying over at their s/o's place, sometimes whole weekends, it was totally normal, sure there were some parents who were less open to it, but from my experience, from a european country - Austria (not to say that you can generalize), it was very normal
I'm from Denmark and it's definitely the same here.
Even long distance would be fine and people would fly to visit each other without much complaint from parents.
I’ve zero people to share my thoughts on the show to,so I’ll write em here. I’m a 21 years old boy, living my uni life and have been struggling with depression as well. I’ve always been neglected by my dad first,by occasional friends then,due to not being able to settle long terms relationships and at last by girls(and boys too). You said that watching it was in some kind of way healing,but when it came to me, I was very heavy-hearted. Every sentence,every scene, every romantic interaction was just so convenient. Charlie was surrounded by a great ecosystem,an organ able to work for him. But I wasn’t that lucky at all. And that aches me so bad. So if you’re reading this and can somehow relate, you’re not alone and we all eventually will find our peace of mine
this is my comfort show for a reason. it's so refreshing to have a show that not only shows healthy relationships but also healthy and wholesome LGBTQ+ relationships. this show has always felt like a huge hug to me and helped me through my own sexuality, im so glad it took so long to bring the sexual content to the show because forming that safe and secure emotional connection is soooo important and not talked about enough. i also love the representation of aroace in Isaac! I absolutely love the cast, Kit and Joe did AMAZING and im so proud of how far theyve come!
OH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR THIS ONE, so ready to cry with mother!!, Season 3 was basically me crying for 4 hours straight, it was not what I expected.
Thank you for pointing out what a strong actor Joe is. You're right that he has such expressive wide eyes and his facial expressions are so subtle but so impressive as well. It's subtle shiftings of emotions but it's done so well. Joe clearly is the raw talent Kit's been praising, who of course is the old pro Joe called him.
OMG ASH THE THUMBNAIL😭😭😭 i feel you
I finished Heartstopper 10 minutes ago! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED! THANK YOU QUEEN ❤❤
I CRIED TOO MOM IT WAS GUT WRENCHING
thank youuu! We're constantly told that we have to have sex for a relationship to work out and it just sucks. As someone who only just discovered that they're asexual(very sex repulsed too😭), I've struggled with accepting it because of this whole idea that sex is what holds a relationship together. I'm afraid that I won't be wanted because I don't want that. I just want to love somebody and for them to love me. There are so many other ways to be intimate with someone else and I really think so many people have forgotten that. I still have a lot of accepting to do but I'm getting there! But, that's exactly what makes Heartstopper so wonderful. Like you stated, it shows us there's so many other ways to love somebody and there's so much more to a relationship than sex and romance. I keep writing these silly long comments about how much it means to me on different people's reactions to season 3 but it really is sort of healing to see something like that when it isn't what's been normalized in our current society, even though it should be. Also, just wanna say a silly cheesy thank you Ashley for being such a comfort to me for so long! I don't usually comment because when I do I just end up typing as much as I did here but you're genuinely one of my favorite people on this platform because you're just so relatable, funny, entertaining, pretty, honest, and so much more! So thanks for that and thanks for making me feel like I have somewhere I can go when I need comfort!!!💕💖 (I'm done now, I promise)
this season truly destroyed me i'm unwell after it. especially as someone who dealt with something similar (however way less severe). and as someone who's also been in nicks shoes wanting to do everything to fix that person when in reality there's nothing you can do😣😫
honestly watching you crying when charlie’s friends do all of those little details and presents to him makes me feel so so sad, mainly cause i feel like i relate to you a lot. when i was in the that phase of my life i also didn’t have any of my “friends” support or anything, and thinking that maybe if they have done what charlie’s friend did to him everything would’ve been different… fuck it rly hurts 😭 i love u ash fr, you make me feel so much better, i appreciate that you also vent with your own experiences a little bit with us too, you’re such an angel to this world 💜
3:01 it was a reference to hin being spanish i think
Came here to say this.
Although to be fair, other than the one scene of his dad speaking Spanish with the teacher and Nick's dad asking how Spring is a Spanish surname (while he has the very un-French surname of Nelson 😂) its not referenced that much in the show so easy to forget
@@Harrison_J_T yeah true hahaha
MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SHOW AS A MENTALLY ILL BEING
The first two seasons of this show made me realize the harm I was doing to myself by maladaptive daydreaming and keeping a void open in my life just so only someone (who is as perfect as nick nelson (nobody like that exists)) else can fill it. Even though I have lived as an aromantic outside it was actually me being a huge hopeless romantic (I am also bi and my country and my parents are homophobics so it kinda adds to that) and mentally broken just disassociating (thank you media for lying everyone about perfect love) and creating universes to run away to (I was also rewatching wandavision at that time).
I started watching the first two seasons the week before the s3 came out and 2 days before I have started binging, I was diagnosed with adhd and started meds. Knew I have had adhd for a few years now (also have autism but let's not get that deep rn) but getting a confirmation was both a relief and a huge burden.
I have made slides about adhd to my parents just so they can know what it is, what is the medication going to do and what can they do to help me through my life because it was very hard to talk about it. And I have went in a spiral of emotions (I usually can't regulate them (autism) and they burst out when I get overwhelmed and such) I was reliving my childhood constantly. Everyone was saying (I am majoring on computer engineering, in 4th grade and have high gpa, also have lived and worked in USA for for months all by myself) it was a miracle I made this far in life with my condition unchecked and how much more successful I could be if I have known it before(I was also one of them ''gifted child''). And that broke me so bad. I have wasted all my life being constantly depressed and in a constant state of anxiety. I was overwhelmed by the all the possibilities of how my life could be and blamed everyone.
After finishing s2 I was in a state of depression I have never felt before. The anxiety attacks were getting stronger (I have had them all my life so I have learned to at least ease them till that) and I was no longer able to control them. The depression was so bad I nearly attempted life unsubscription. I have had those thoughts all my life but it was never that close. It was so bad I couldn't mask anymore. Everyone around me has noticed it too (ı was the ''easy child'' no-one ever noticed my struggles I survived all by myself) and when they tried to intervene it became even worse. I felt like I was being a burden to them, my situation was also effecting them. So I isolated myself, locked myself in my room for a week.
I watched s3 the day it came out. It made me realize on top of all of that, I also had an eating disorder. I realized that at least for two months I wasn't eating at all (my adhd would make me forget about eating when I was alone so I have basically never had a normal eating habits but I loved food) (yes the meds do make eating harder but I was having problems way before I have started them and they kinda made it better because I have to eat before taking meds). The food disgusted me, especially if there was someone around. Every time I had to eat, It was exactly like Charlie's screen darkening effect. Started lying to my parents and my sister about eating before (I don't generally lie), would change topics when it came to eating and might even be rude sometimes. This is not the only time I have suffered it though. When I was 16-17 there would be times I wouldn't eat anything for 2 days straight. I lost around 20 kg's (44 ish pounds) in about 3 months. I don't even know how I survived or even not hospitalized tbh.
Let's add the fact that my mom is exactly like Charlie's mom. Very controlling and most probably have ocd which clashed with my rules and routine needs (autism) and I have distanced myself from her for the last 3 months because of it.
After I have finished the s3 I have booked a session with my therapist. After the session I have pulled apart my childhood and threw him away. He was trying to protect me but instead he became my worst enemy so in order to be happy I threw him away. I don't know how much of a good thing it is to do but I have never been happier. Traumas haunts us because we let them to. Because we think that it is what makes us us. Surviving a danger doest mean that we have to be defined by it. Let the past stay in the past because it is nothing but a memory. It only exists if you let it to. And if you let it exist, it will control you. Live in the moment, start a new life. Doesn't have to be a big thing like moving to another country. Just change the colour of your shirt, change your hair, go outside for no reason... You don't own anyone anything, including your past. Let them go and be free.
This was my experience with this show. Still not over the e.d. thing but trying to improve. I don't know if anyone has read this comment or not but if you did, know that it does get better. I used to laugh when people say that but you just have to believe in it.
i love the annual heartstopper reactions !! also this season wrecked me
This season BROKE me. I went through an eating disorder at 16 and it is truly hell. The way it affects your body and mind is insane. But the way it affects those that love you is devastating. And the way it doesn’t just get better after being hospitalized or in a clinic program. It is so scary and serious. The way they broke it down was heart wrenching
heavy on the sleepovers thing. Not to rant but I was talking to my friend about it and we came up with very different feelings about it. Sleepovers were a huge thing and I was never allowed to do it as a kid but my friend said it wasnt fair for Charlies mom to say that to him. I was so confused cause he's literally a 16 year old I thought it made sense but it seems like thats not the general consensus?
i think charlie’s mom was being pretty reasonable
I think it might be a cultural thing, I'm not British, but I am european (Danish) and it was definitely very normal for people to sleep at their partners place. And even if their parents were really strict, they would just claim to be at a friend's house. (Which were mostly if they hadn't told their parents about the relationship yet)
Throughout the show I think Mrs. Spring's nearly always made very reasonable points, just not expressing them in a likeable way. Like when she banned him from seeing Nick at all until his homework is done I thought that was fair, because Charlie is in school for a reason and needs to focus on his work, and Nick is quite the distraction. She wasn't saying "you can't ever see Nick again", she was saying "you can't see Nick until your homework is done". A realistic timeframe and that treats them meeting up as a reward he can earn.
For the sleepovers, again Mrs. Spring was being very reasonable, especially by her standards. She wasn't saying no, she had reservations because when your kid is 15-16 and he's asking to sleep over at someone else's house when he has previously expressed his romantic feelings towards this other person, and probably hasn't yet had SexEd - you do worry. Had Charlie let her continue, she might've said he should wait until after his GCSEs or A-Levels or whatever which, again, isn't saying "you are never allowed to have sleepovers with Nick".
18:17 the cat
I had a pretty rough mental journey since I was a kid and I'm still treating it, however I get the mom at some extent, cause moms worry beyond our imagination. Her concern about the sleepover was totally justified to me, but maybe that's because I'm Brazilian (moms here are on a hole other level of stress😅).
Txh sm for this early post, Ash! Also, hope you may find happiness in the little moments and strength in the big ones❤
What I love about Heartstopper is that the characters can just BE for no reason. I feel like in a lot of media that I consume anyone who's part of a marginalized community has to have a reason to exist while in Heartstopper characters can just be whoever they are.
omg i have missed your heartstopper reactions
Fun facts for more context on the whole adult-child dynamic in the UK:
- The legal age of consent over here is 16. Your parents have no right to tell you what to do with your body from that point onwards.
- Once you turn sixteen, you are considered legally competant and may enter full-time employment, take lessons to drive certain vehicles and, in some cases, can live alone and become completely independent from your parents.
The fact that Charlie is so aggravated by his mother trying to tell him what he can and can't do is because, while not at the legal age to be considered adult, he is in fact legally entitled to control of his own affairs without parental intervention except in certain cases such as marriage, which is still possible but only with parental consent. (Yes, I know that's wild but it's a thing and it has been very successful for a lot of people. Not everyone because of varying levels of emotional maturity and growing apart over time but that happens with couples of all ages.)
So yeah. That's why Charlie is justified in telling his mother to back off trying to tell him what to do. Legally speaking, she has no right.
All my American besties, feel free to pop off about any of this in the replies. I'm sure y'all have opinions. 😂
as someone who's mentally ill, doesn't have the best relationship with food and who's a younger sister and knows how much my sister worries about me, i cried ugly tears during every single episode of this season
46:52 I did have sleepovers with my significant others in high school. My mom wasn't stupid, and just told me to be safe, and to not do anything I wasn't comfortable with. I think her thought process was that we were gonna do what we were gonna do regardless, and that she'd prefer we were just in a safe place instead of sneaking out and going who knows where to do who knows what. I'd usually refer to them as a "friend," and my mom would ask "what kind of friend?" If I didn't respond with their name directly, I'd either say "just a friend" (if they were actually just a friend) or "a _friend_ friend." She knew I was gay, but I only had one official boyfriend in highschool, and that way she'd know what to possibly expect if they stayed at our home. One of my _friend's_ Mom sort of confronted me in a way while driving me home after staying at their house one time, because she saw that we were sleeping in the same bed together when she woke us up in the morning, and it was super awkward.... She asked a bunch of questions about what our relationship was to each other, because he hadn't "slept in the same bed" with another boy since he was little. I didn't really know how to respond, and just told her that the bed was more comfortable and that it doesn't matter.... Like, we fooled around a little and cuddled, but we weren't actually "boyfriends" or anything, and I'm also not gonna sleep on a hardwood floor when there's a perfectly comfortable bed there.. it's also nice to have someone/something to snuggle when you're sleeping (whether it be a person, pet, pillow, stuffed animal, etc) 😂
My Mom also had a similar attitude about partying and stuff. She didn't allow partying in our home, but was usually okay with me going to parties (to a certain extent) at friend's houses as long as she knew where I was going, had met the friend and at least one of their parental figures, I'd assured her that I wouldn't get into a vehicle if the driver had been drinking, and would promise to call if I needed help or a ride home. I didn't always follow _all_ of those rules exactly.... But I think knowing that I wouldn't be too scared to call her if something happened gave us both peace of mind.
Time lock in and cry girlies 😭😅
So real
For real
This season had me in tears a number of times. Too many things hit too close to home. Especially to my own teenage experiences/struggles
The radio interview PISSED me TF off
42:38 Mother you ATE this up. Preach. (Also thank you for this amazing video, it's carrying me through the anticipation of having to wait for the season finale of Agatha All Along).
To be fair, I'll say that Charlie's mom is really watered down in the show, while Charlie's reactions and answers to her stay the same
42:49 SLAYYYY! Iconic. Love you more than ever in this moment. Absolutely perfectly said.
no one can beat u and dylan when it comes to sneaking in the sponsors in the most creative way possible lmaao
Thank you Ash, I had a really bad day omg i smiled so loudly
44:04 THAT SLURP KILLED ME🤣🤣🤣🤣
as a british person with french grandparents- i dont burn i only tan. i think thats why charlie doesn’t burn, his dad is Spanish! x
Episode 4 destroyed meeeeee
I was already tearing up in episode 2 and the end of 3 when Charlie reads his letter to his parents but I was not prepared for 4 😭
I moved in with my girlfriend (now my wife) when I turned 16, we had a house together etc... I am from the UK. I would say its pretty common in the UK for 16 year olds to either move in with their significant other or even just stay over at their house. I know some people from school who got married at 16, so watching the show as someone from the UK its not really a big deal. However I understand how different countries and cultures have differing outlooks on the topic :) also love your videos Ashley
Omg thats so cute!! wishing yall all the luck🥹🫶🫶
you’ve been helping me so much with stuff that’s happening right now and i want to thank you ash. :))