The biggest difference from a fan's perspective I've seen changed, I started watching F1 in 2007, has been the promotion of the sport on social media. I remember under Bernie Eccelstone literally any F1 video would be removed off TH-cam for copyright infringements. Wasn't it not until 2016 that Formula 1 even got a TH-cam channel?
The head of Formula one was very anti internet. When he was forced out, the social media exploded. Netflix was invited in. That’s when the sport seemed to have exploded.
My List: 1. Dominance of Schumacher 2. Brilliance of Häkkinen 3. Sound of V12 engine 4. Jean Todt - "Rubens let Michael pass for the championchip..." 5. Kimi drinking in a yacht moments after his race ended at Monaco in 2006
@@danbunce2934 watch hakkinen vs schumacher clips. you'll love the rivalry between them especially the overtake hakkinen did on schumi in spa (idr which year tho)
Changing engines for new ones pretty much every session was something they used to do too Oh and spare cars. Dudes crashing a car and running back to the pits under a red flag to take the spare was hilarious.
I agree, another one could be legendary or overtaking galore tracks. My earliest memory of F1 is seeing the blue and green BMW-Sauber-Petronas rounding Sepang on TV. With the sound echoing from the CRT TV, it was glorious.
Agreed, but the V10s and V12s please. Standing trackside in Adelaide in 1994... the sound of the Williams et al... music, and the ear piercing scream of the Ferrari V12. Nothing has come close since.
A huge change that has taken place gradually since I started watching in the early 90's is the reliability. A race where all cars made it to the finish was something to be remembered. With gearbox failures, engines blowing up and other mechanical failures a race was never over until the last corner. There's some legendary races where one leader after the other dropped out and the guy running in a lost position came out to win.
That's a great shout. Yes, 90s races could be a real lottery in terms of reliability. Probably a reflection of driver quality too, having had the standard improve of years (even with some current drivers being less than stellar).
@@stegra5960 Panis' only F1 win, but I think it was a wet race and that played a big part as well. Still the race with the least finishers though if I'm correct.
Fun fact: All of Senna’s complete F1 seasons from 1984-1993 were done without refueling and is exactly between two periods where refueling was allowed.
Don’t know if anyone’s ever mentioned this but the format of these videos is so engaging! Really appreciate all the behind the scenes work that goes into making these videos ❤️
@@jantijtgat2506 by your standard then 2017-2020 season was FAR more boring because we already know mercedes will be won and one of their driver will won Wdc, and also that will be hamiliton because rosberg is already retired. Don’t make me mention 2000-2004
Certainly something that younger viewers won't have experienced, waking up at 3AM on a Sunday morning on 13th October 1996 to witness the whole of the race to see Damon Hill win in Suzuka, with Murray Walker's greatest line "...and I've got to stop, because I've got a lump in my throat!"
@@colehartel7206 Suzuka is a Japanese track. So if the race starts 2 PM local time, it would be 7-9 AM for Europe and 10pm-1am for America, depending on coast. So yeah, not the perfect time for most of the world. That's why a few races in East Asia start in unusual times locally, to accomodate international viewers better.
Few more things 1.Single lap qualifying-2003-2005 2.Naturally aspirated engines of the V8/V10 3.Pre race warmup on Sunday morning 4.1 hour long qualifying with just 12 laps 5.Cars with weird aero horns aka McLaren MP4/20 with its Viking horns
@@RafitoOoO I do think the current format we have since 2006 is the best but the single lap qualifying is also great with its own charm. You can watch and appreciate the drivers’ skill of any cars or teams plus love how fuel loads played a huge part in race strategy. Lastly if a top driver gets caught in the wet,made a mistake or have to run early,it’s fun seeing them fight through the field. Cases in point Michael Schumacher imola 2005 Kimi Raikkonen Suzuka 2005 Juan Pablo Montoya Hockenheim 2005
@@Milkywayboy who cares if they're faster? I'd much rather watch a field of V10s and V12s that are hell even 10 seconds a lap slower than the cars we have now. 90s and 2000s were the best F1 eras in my opinion
I miss the screaming V10's. I was able to go to the 2005 US GP (yes that one) and the cars shook the stands coming down the front stretch. It was an amazing thing to experience.
Sooo glad you included the late great Murry Walker! I have soo many memories watching F1 with my mum when i was younger and Murry Walker was always amazing, he will always have a special place in my heart. GO! GO! GO!!!!!
Small, nimble cars! They used to look so aggressive being driven as opposed to now. The sound helped too, but there was something about those smaller machines.
yes watch Alonso, Mika, kimi and Juan Pablo flick those cars around in those days were just classic! TURN UP THE VOLUME BOYS WERE ABOUT TO GO GREEN!! nothing like those high rpm NA engines!
The new minimum weight of 798kg would have been unbelievable for most of F1 history. In the early '60s they were allowed to make the cars as light as 450kg! Even going back to the 600kg minimum of the '90s would be great for improving the cars' agility.
One thing: sound! Since the V8's and v10's are a thing of the past no new fan could ever realise how good the sound was of the old cars. #BringbacktheV10
Murray Walker, Bill McLaren, John Motson, Sid Waddell, Clive Everton, Brian Johnson. There are some commentators whose voices embody the sport they are commentating on. Murray was a force of nature, he’ll never be matched in F1 commentary. His knowledge, passion and enthusiasm for F1 blasted through the TV. Very proud to still have my Silverstone GP Marshal’s bib that he signed from 1997.
One of the best commentaries from Murray was one for BTTC when the driver puts his middle finger up to another driver and Murray says I’m going for first says John Cleland.
As someone that got into F1 in the middle of the 2020 seson, and now my life is all about F1 and i'm really into F1 now, I'm very sad that i wiil not see those things but i will always come back and Watch the good old races.
I feel like David Croft will be remembered very fondly once he’s retired, not like Walker of course but second to him, like Martin Tyler to John Motson in football. “It’s lights out and away we go” will become an iconic line, in fact I would argue it is already and I know I’ll definitely miss hearing that once Croft isn’t on anymore.
Nobody will remember Crofty fondly, people can't wait to see the back of him and is nowhere near a second to Murray, you've got Brundle, Hunt, Coulthard, Ben Edwards, James Allen...even for all his cock ups Jonathan Legard i'd put in front of Crofty. Depending on who you ask, either Hunt or brundle will always be 2nd to Murray, both ex F1 drivers who knew what they were talking about, Crofty just talks utter shite most of the time.
Single lap qualifying was brilliant! We saw all the action from every lap (also meaning sponsors were guaranteed airtime), the drivers could really make the difference, we got mixed up grids due to mistakes, weather - tracks drying or getting wetter, track evolution, people missing their lap start time so having to start at the back. It was crazy and exciting but generally a fair way of determining the grid.
The most important thing they will never experience is "luck relative to the car". In the older days so many times the race leader car would break something, spicing up the race.
Refueling was hardly as dangerous as the video implies. There were scary moments very occasionally but generally speaking it was fine. It also gave greater strategy variables, plus lighter cars, pushing harder for longer. Which is something I think we can all agree has been sorely missing in recent years, with drivers having to save everything from fuel to tyres to engines etc.
Thank you. Somebody had to say it. There are literally more people who have died from stray tires than the supposedly "dangerous" refueling. 🙄 It's mostly media sensationalism as with most things, and it brought an important strategic element to the races.
I think the danger mainly came when it was a safety car because you had to wait for the pack to queue up before pitting. So teams would rush a lot more and that’s when scenarios like Massa in Singapore 08 happened.
@@flyingphoenix113 yeah agreed. It feels like an overreaction to me. Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we've seen a rise in the number of mechanics getting hit or run over in recent years because they only have 2.5 seconds to get everything done instead of 7 or 8.
I remember watching F1 for the fist time back in 2010. I was really young but Seb winning a race was everything I wanted. I also remember that when the turbo hybrid era begun, I was kind of confused by the sounds the cars made, since the screaming noise of those naturally aspirated V8s was really stuck in my mind!
I have staggered watching F1 over the years (watching only some highlights, following a few drivers such as Schumi and Vettel on only their biggest achievements, and hearing all about the Rich Energy debacle) and I only really started to really get into it late last year when I watched some races with friends over on Discord. This video - and a bunch others from you guys and other channels - really helped me get a crash course on what's going on in F1 now and make me catch up before I watch my first full season this year, and hopefully be able to watch the Singapore GP in person (as it's the closest GP location to me). Thanks so much guys, looking forward to this season!
@@danwebber5785 my friend from the Netherlands has a Ziggo Sport subscription to watch F1 so he livestreamed the race to us via Discord's screen sharing, and we talked about everything while it was ongoing. the commentary was in Dutch but at least the graphics are in English and he's translating the key points to us
As an American who has recently gotten into f1 (yes, netflix, sorry) I have watched hundreds of hours of back content and 100% agree with you on Murray walker. Such a legend. Even the times where he had to share the mic (like literally a single mic) with James hunt. Top shelf.
I started following f1 when i was 10 at the start of the 2011 season. Theres a reason Seb is a massive hero of mine. I really miss the sounds of the v8s. I know most people a bit older prefer the v10s but the v8 was the soundtrack as my f1 addiction took hold
- How did you forget ENGINE SOUNDS?! My favorites were the V10s. Back when F1 cars had that "wow" factor. - Beautiful cars (not that they're ugly today, but those early 2000s cars were just beautiful) - Kimi in his prime - Mercedes not dominating (actually Mercedes not even being in the sport as a team, only as an engine supplier) - Old scoring system (A win was 10 points!) - Bernie Ecclestone - Classic, beautiful old F1 logo - Flags in the podium were actual flags - Tobacco brands sponsorship - And of course, Michael Schumacher (GOAT). Keep fighting Legend.
I appreciate you coming at this as an educational standpoint. Many older fans sometimes make newer fans feel bad because they dont know as much or almost want to gate keep the sport they love.
I've been watching since the end of the v10/start of the v8 era's. They need to be on here for the even newer fans. The noise from those cars were ridiculous compared to the current ones.
@@dodgycurry I remember seeing my parents watch it when I was a kid, and all I wanted to do was go out and play football. But only just remember the v10's too. 1st full season I sat and watched was 2007 when Lewis joined the sport.
@@joshmilne6611 I used to often sit with my dad from a very young age (like 3-4) and watch the Grand Prix as I’ve always been mad about cars. I always thought my first year watching was 2007 but after further thought, I can distinctly remember the v10s, the Renault mild seven livery and Alonso winning a championship or two.
@@GryphLane not really.. they (FIA and Mercs) even tried to slow Ferrari down 2018 when Ferrari had a dominant car, also tried to slow down Redbull with the wing issue and the pit speeds. FIA protected Mercedes.
@@timotiusfabian5743 Even Mercedes admit they didn't know the 2021 rule changes were going to disadvantage them at first, there is literally no way the FIA knew.
With Murray Walker gone, Charlie Whiting, dr Sid Watkins.. It makes you realize how F1 has change generations. Maybe do a video about those iconic figures (other than drivers) in F1?
I still don't understand the "but muh safety" argument for refueling tho. Indycar does it, nascar does it, sports car racing does it. There's never massive issue with any of those. Don't see why F1 can't go back to refueling when all these other racing series don't have any serious issues with it
I think a large part of it was that it was around the same time as the push to reduce costs and encourage new teams to enter the sport. It had been 15 years since Verstappen's pit fire, so they had plenty of time to ban it on safety grounds before then
@@CrusaderAce24 you act as if there already aren't a ton of passes made in the pits already. Besides, refueling would actually increase passing on track anyways. Proof: Indycar
I think creating a system that would allow for safe refuelling is definitely possible, like the green light system currently in use for tyre changes. Just add one more signal for the fuel guy that cannot turn green as long as the fuel hose is still in the car and you're good to go. I'm 100% sure this could work pretty well with the safety regulations.
The main reason why it was banned was that they wanted to have the duels directly on the track and not at the pits. This overtaking in pits was really a problem in the late 2000s, not comparable with Undercuts/Overcuts today.
@@lor7780Its because they are allowed to change starting fuel. They fuel as less as possible. If FIA would regulate, that everyone starts with same amount of fuel, they maybe would have more times when they need to burn it, not save it.
Alain Prost pushing his car to the finish line at the German Grand Prix in 1986 after he ran out of fuel in the last corner while leading. The hour-long window to qualify, but everybody waited until the last 10 minutes to get on the track and then they all complained the track was to crowded. I started watching F1 in the late 70's.
I always like the comment from the TV show Outnumbered. "Murray Walker was fantastic. He was the perfect commentator because he sounds like a racing car."
Refueling needs to come back. It can be done safely, but the FIA will never do it because that would require admitting IndyCar had a good idea before they did.
@@haze_productions9715 And look how long it took the FIA to admit they made the wrong call. And even then, they made it a point to come up with as different a ground effect arrangement as possible from what we stuck with. (to their credit, though, using the rear brake cooling ducts to help keep the sides of the diffuser stable to minimize disruption of exiting airflow is legitimately brilliant)
@@hentai69master IndyCar teams would do the same if they could get away with it, but thanks to rigorous safety inspections they can't. Even the FIA made sure to do that after the big 1994 fires that were the results of illegal modifications. IndyCar has proven since introducing the immobilizers how safe refueling mid-race can be. F1 would be better if they brought it back using the same tech IndyCar uses.
It wasn't IndyCar that brought pitstop to circuit racing. F1 already had refueling in the 1950s... Ok it was some very slow pitstop, often in the 40 seconds, and it was not always really professional, but still. The choreographied pit stop, that was nascar in 1963. But it wasn't the first professional pitstop. The first professional pitstop on circuit racing was done in 1935 in Donington Park, by a German team. They were refueling and changing tires in around 35 seconds in those days. What happened is the FIA made the race shorter, cutting it from 500km to 300km, and also cut some exotic fuel of the early 1950s.which made team move to kerosene, about the same time as the engine went from front to back. So the pitstop was perceived as not worth it for a long time. Until the 1980s when Gordon Muray started to do the math and thought that 1 pitstop with his car could work if BMW is able to offer a reliable engine for this... The FIA than banned refueling over safety, brought it back to try to switch things around, ban it back to try to bring a show back when races were won with pit strategy. I say bring it back. Why? Two reasons. 1.Have you seen the size of the 1990s cars vs now? No wonder it's hard to pass with car this long. 2. Have you seen that Grosjean crash? I can't help to think that 140 liters of gasoline didn't help that crash. But made it count. Put like a gaz thank at maximum 50 liters, slow down the pit lane speed a little bit (the speed, right now, is 60 kph: reduce it to 50 kph), and force the team to shut down the engine during refueling. That should force smaller cars and some changes in the engines.
This year will be my 20th full season of F1. Call it anyway you want, first decade of 2000's was iconic, and although there were less overtakes, many of them were fantastic because it took everything to make it stick. I don't really care for drs overtakes, that's most artificial thing ever added to Formula 1.
Me is 2022 my 3rd full season i watch a lot of races in 2019 some in 2018 2017 and 2016 and in 2015 when 7 year old me asked in Dutch who is the Dutch driver my dad sayd the one with ver of the names of was new for me in 2017 that the leader board became verticaal exep for horzontaal
I just recently got into F1 in the mid-to-late of last season and I love all your videos. I try to watch all of them and find them very educational for the sport. But while I was watching this I got to thinking... what if you made a video about all the things a newcomer would need to know about the sport to have an idea of what's going on and to understand what and why things are happening. Thanks mate, and I look forward to seeing your upcoming videos soon.
I dont care what anyone says Refueling gives you more flexibility in strategy (compared to tyres alone) and forces you to take risks and gambles, which dont always line up with your tyre strategy. Its why indy car feels more fun sometimes cause some teams do 1 less pit and fuel save more than tyre save. And if you cock up planning your the fuel or tyres strategy you get punished Also some drivers/teams might be able to pull off 3 stops with an extreme fuel strategy. Cause weight delta is worth 0.4s per lap at most circuitrz
I lived in the times of the Bridgestone and Michelin tyre war, and to those calling for a return of a second tyre supplier I say don't do it, hear me out. To those who say "it'll improve the racing," will it though? The fact is that the tyre would switch on in a specific track/weather/temperature combination and if you're on the wrong tyre company's tyres, there's nothing you can do other than watch the ones on the right tyres pull away. Worse still, as graphically shown in the infamous 2005 US Grand Prix, there's more self interest at play, rather than looking at the bigger picture, as James Allen said after that race: "Well it's an illustration of how the teams in Formula One simply can't agree, even in the most extreme circumstances. The FIA didn't seem to want to help either. Formula One should be deeply ashamed of itself today, it lost all semblance of common sense here at Indianapolis, pinch me! Did I really see this?!" What's often forgotten about 2005 is that after the Spanish Grand Prix, where Bridgestone had two tyre failures on Michael Schumacher's car, they sought addressing of the tyre rules for 2005, but Michelin didn't play ball
The other thing about Indy 2005 that gets forgotten is that Michelin didn't attend the test day that was offered. Neither did Bridgestone, but Bridgestone could transfer data from the Firestones used in IRL so didn't need to.
@@Djarra even if they did though, they wouldn't have been able to use Indy to test. Even at the time, it wasn't one of the nominated tracks used to test the cars
My entry: The absolute agony/frustration when ITV took advert breaks during the race. This was all pre-Twitter, so you could only find out what happened when James Allen or Murray Walker told you when the race came back on.
-Proper sound -Smaller cars that could actually race eachother -Refuelling -Tyre wars -Murray Walker/James Allen (I liked him, even though after Hamilton came into F1 he became biased) -Rivalries that didnt need that much media hype -Drivers being more aggresive, no bullshit penalties for every contact I dont know what else could be.
Everyone should be made to listen to a Murray Walker commentary, I started listening to his commentaries back in the 90's and there was no one else like it. Absolute legend 👏
Murray's final commentary in 2001 Indianapolis GP made me fall in love with this sport, his passion of the sport and bringing people together was immaculate, RIP LEGEND, you will be missed
The first time I watched a FULL F1 season is 2021! What a season to watch! And Max is ma favourite driver because he's young unlike Lewis. So I like Max more because I'm 14. And my first F1 memory is the 2016 Austria GP!
Glad to see new fans getting involved. My first F1 memory (I think!) was Monaco in around 2001/2002. You had a great season as your first, some of the usually boring races were actually really good in 2021.
For me as a very fresh F1 fan it would be the HALO, it seems crazy to not have that. Seeing former formula 1 cars without it with driver so open for harm is insane
I miss pre-qualifying. Back in the day there used to be 26 cars starting a race but even more entrants for each race. So before qualifying 14 cars had to be knocked out out before official qualifying began. 20 cars on a grid is too little.
The noise!!! Im 18 so many of my friends who watch f1 do not know about old f1, they say the v6s scream. I went to the silverstone classic a few years ago, 20 90s f1 cars lining up is a real noise. One of those cars could trump the entire grid revving together in a noise battle
I wholeheartedly disagree with this video on refueling. They need to bring it back, especially considering how heavy these cars are nowadays (which is completely fine - safer cars are better for everyone), but Lewis, George, Kevin, Max, Sebastian, and a few others have stated that they want refueling back. It adds so much diversity to strategy, and allows the cars to push for longer. They have safety switches where if the car pulls off, the hose will automatically detach from the car and stop pouring fuel. It’s a simple lever action that NASCAR implemented in 2019, and it’s worked wonders. I really hope that F1 listens to the fans and drivers on this one and brings it back. There’s a safe way to implement it nowadays and it would add another element to GP’s. I understand that F1 wants the manufacturers to push the boundaries of thermal efficiency, but they’re capped at this point due to the restrictive nature of the engine regulations, especially considering that they’re now frozen. There’s every reason to do it now, and few reasons not to.
F1 had a full fule hoses pull completely off and covered cars, driver's in petrol. Then we have the William pit garage go up in flames. Now no fuel to be around the pit lane or garages for safety.
It’s just for the safety but it made races boring as hell If a faster car was struggling to overtake someone then they would just change strategies so it would be in as much free air as possible
I think another way is to mandate that the tires do not come off the car until the hose is removed, to add a 2-3 second buffer period. With the increase time in pit stops from the refueling it would only make a 20% difference.
@@emmjea6913 still wouldn't make any difference anyway didn't back then. Front runners would be out way in front pit refuel and go as fast as possible have a even bigger gap by end the race.
No they don't need to bring it back and they better don't bring it back -It only adds more diversity to the strategy on paper, but in real life it doesn't really. You usually get as much fuel as much your tyre lasts. If you think about it, if anything, it even makes strategy more boring as you cannot change it mid-race. If you are stuck behind someone or tyre wear is unexpectedly high or low, then that's it, your race is f*cked. Last year the Spanish and French GPs were made at least somewhat exciting by mid-race strategy changes, which arguably also changed the outcome on both occasions. -Yes the cars are heavier, so what? Lighter car doesn't necessarily mean better racing. Also if they brought back refuelling they would probably just fit batteries in the freed place which is even heavier. -Also teams spent loads of money on making fuel pumps more powerful and pump out more liters/second which in itself doesn't fit F1's cost cutting ambitions. -And then I still didn't talk about safety
I missed out on pretty much all of these because I only discovered F1 via a official video showing strange crashes last year and then my first ever recent video footage I saw was 2021 Hungarian GP.
I watch F1 since 1999 soo the evolution of F1 is phenomenal.From refueling ban, tyre manufacturer competition, technology the bring to the car is really entertaining
Elimination quali would work in esport where you dont have to scrap for space on the track..in reality theyre all on the same track trying to put out fast times at the same time - recipe for disaster.
Being a fan since 1990 so they are all too familiar. Tyre war: yeah, F1 could probably see 2 or 3 tyre manufacturers entering the sport instead of just one. An extra factor to set teams apart. Refuelling: despite opening new strategic options, good it's gone. Not worth the risk. DRS: yeah, contentious. In an ideal world we'd scrape it. Would be nice to go a full season without it and then draw some conclusions. Qualifying formats: the current one is the best. Enough said. Murray Walker: Not being a Brit I only knew him by name. But nice quotes.
I like your idea of having a PTT style implementation of KERs. I think it would be great to have something like a set number of pushes per race and you can choose whenever you want to use them charging or defending or just going stupid fast down the finish straight. I dislike the current qualifying. I find it annoying that drivers can mess with each other's qualifying. I think either single car quals would do good or even better team quals, let the teams get 6x laps each where their goal is to push/pull each other around as fast as possible. Would even lead to cool intrigue if there is intra team points battle going on.
I miss refueling so much, it creates many different strategies, undercut, overcut, 2 stops, 3 stops, different pitstop times... Races after 2009 are so boring strategy-wise. Nobody ever died on refueling, I don't see much safety issue tbh.
I was watching something the other day in which someone pointed out how safety is the only consideration that gets taken seriously anymore. If something absurd is done on safety grounds, your case against it has to appeal to safety as well. It's a bit of an exaggeration, but I think there's a kernel of truth to it.
I don't think that refuling was THAT scary and dangerous. Only one I known was Jos Verstappen had a bit of drama with that. Few drivers pulled out the hose and that's it throughout idk 30-40 years maybe of refuling I think. And you know, Nascar, WEC and other endurance championships do refule while racing. And there's nothing dangerous for noone. THAT level of danger was when drivers couldn't change their tires. There was several accidents with that or even good ol US gp at Indianapolis. Cmom dude
I don't really disagree, but I'd argue that in NASCAR or WEC refueling is generally safer than in the old F1 because pitstops on those sports aren't as quick as in F1, so it's harder for a driver do accidentally drive off with the hose attached. But then again I also believe that those incidents were caused by the fact cars didn't have as many sensors as nowadays and it was common for the lollipop man to screw up sometimes. Maybe with those new regulations, could F1 test refueling again sometime in the future? It'd be interesting.
@@Shapershift Yeah, agreed could be that electronics might help in solving that. Aren't nowadays pitstops slower than before? They made some regulation so the red bull lost in their pit stop speed? I mean we could go slower on those, for example f1 cars should have jacks build to the floor of the car and be controlled by spotter. The ideas are on the table and it is Fia's decision about bringing it back.
I'd love to see again mid-race refueling and lighter cars. Maybe I'm missing something here, but couldn't they just make a rule that says you can only do the entire refueling procedure while the car is lifted?
The 12 lap qualifying was the best. There wasn't much to do for long periods but you could focus on the actual fast laps. Now they all happen at once and you don't see anything even tho there is constantly action on track.
To add another point: the so much higher unreliabilty with especially those big engine blows and races with less then 10 drivers finish. And another: 24 cars on the grid
Michael Schumacer in his prime and golden age at Ferrari against Hakkinen, Murray Walker epic Commentary + V10 sounds era = best F1 Moments ever for me!
2001 to 2006. Otherwise known as Schumacher vs the world. Those were the glory days for me because Michael won just about everything. Hehe. I don't care how boring it was for everyone else. I had a blast watching my hero dominate the sport. I'd use a time machine just to see it all unfold again. Bwahahaha!!!
Fortunately we have David Croft now. He is brilliant too, in fact he is the only reason why i watch races with english commentary instead one with my native language.
I don’t agree that refuelling is necessarily that dangerous if done correctly… it’s done safely in other, similar motorsports, it was done safely in F1 for years with very few incidents and zero serious ones. The danger of fire is really overstated. The pit crews and fire safety get it put out within a second or two any time there is an accident. The most dangerous thing that actually happened was the time the hose was left in and got wrapped around one of the pit crews legs but stuff like that is avoidable depending how they choose to refuel the cars. It also adds so many different dimensions to a race and so many different strategies that have been missing from F1 in recent years and creates races where you often have no idea the actual positions people will finish until the last few laps. I’d actually like to see it back tbh.
Me personally being a new f1 super fan coming from watching drive to survive. I wish I could’ve caught on the sport sooner, it’s a bummer seeing replays from races in the 00’s and seeing that there was such different cars and different technologies seems so interesting.
The era that you refer to in this video as "The Glory Days". Only people who started watching Formula 1 at that time call it that. You might find that many people consider that to be one of the worst eras in F1. It was the refuelling and the tyre war in that era which resulted in the lack of overtaking. The era prior to refuelling had more overtaking. Also calling the early 2000s the "Glory Days" is laughable considering some of the eras that preceded it and the eras that followed. The 60s was very good with Clark and Hill etc. The 70s had amazing cars and Stewart, Andretti, Fittipaldi, Hunt and Lauda just to name a few. Then there was the 80s which needs no explanation. Then once refuelling was banned we had some great seasons. 2010 going down to the last race with multipe drivers able to win. Remember 2012 with multiple race winners etc.
Ok, I'm old, and this is one I hope no one ever has to experience again, but the time when it was not unusual to have drivers regularly killed during the season. It was shocking, sad, tragic and as we've discovered, preventable, but also almost an expected part of motor racing. I distinctly remember that horrible weekend at Imola when Senna and Ratzenberger died and Rubens Barrichello nearly joined them. Since then we have only tragically lost Jules Bianchi, and Grosjean's accident in Bahrain shows how far F1 has come. Fans today have no idea how reassuring it is to see a massive, high-speed crash where the drivers jump out of their cars like nothing happened.
I came in to say this very thing. People today have no idea what a different sport F1 is now compared to the past. And, IMO, it's much, much better. Not only did multiple world champions die, one, Jochen Rindt, died after he won the championship but before the season ended. If today's safety was still at the pre-1980 level, a significant percentage of drivers over 30 who are still racing would have died years ago. And don't get me started on morons like Jackie Stewart who say racing has become too safe. Tell us, Sir Jackie, how many deaths per season would meet your standards?
My list: 1. Senna (end of sentance) 2. Kimi Räikkonen 2005 Japan 3. V12 + V8 engines 4. Michael Schumachers naughty tactics in 94 + 97 5. Häkkinens speed
What about the fan car , lotus with the double body or chassis. Williams active suspension ,or the car with the vibration dumper ,Six/eight wheel car, the cars with the huge disfuser
The memories of watching races religiously every Sunday at my grandparents house as a kid, some how never forget buttons Malaysian win and is that glock among a lot of other classics. Good times.
Grooved tryes! These were introduced alongside the skinny 1800mm cars in 1998 to reduce speeds. Thank goodness for the return of slicks in 2009 - that was the change of regulations between 2008-9 I was looking forward to
In the quali format you could add the single lap quali. A small mistake could cost a driver 10 places and with different fuel strategies we had mixed grids
The biggest difference from a fan's perspective I've seen changed, I started watching F1 in 2007, has been the promotion of the sport on social media. I remember under Bernie Eccelstone literally any F1 video would be removed off TH-cam for copyright infringements. Wasn't it not until 2016 that Formula 1 even got a TH-cam channel?
They were so dumb
He said that F1 should've been an old man's sport, because the people with money weren't interested in those social media channels
Funny enough around 2015-2016 was the rise of F1 youtubers as well
Lol, 2007. Newbie.
The head of Formula one was very anti internet. When he was forced out, the social media exploded. Netflix was invited in. That’s when the sport seemed to have exploded.
You missed my favourite Murray quote
“There’s nothing wrong with the car except it’s in fire”
Good times
or from when he did the PlayStation 1 game - "you can see visually just how close the cars are!" as opposed to seeing audibly? RIP to a true legend
My List:
1. Dominance of Schumacher
2. Brilliance of Häkkinen
3. Sound of V12 engine
4. Jean Todt - "Rubens let Michael pass for the championchip..."
5. Kimi drinking in a yacht moments after his race ended at Monaco in 2006
V10>>>
@@shikarics V12 3.5l > V10 3.0l
Schumacher is a cheat. Move on
I want to experience this championchip you speak so highly of
@@danbunce2934 watch hakkinen vs schumacher clips. you'll love the rivalry between them especially the overtake hakkinen did on schumi in spa (idr which year tho)
Changing engines for new ones pretty much every session was something they used to do too
Oh and spare cars. Dudes crashing a car and running back to the pits under a red flag to take the spare was hilarious.
Naturally aspirated engines could have been added to this list, if a new F1 fan has never heard an old V12/V10/V8 car they'd be in for a shock
I agree, another one could be legendary or overtaking galore tracks. My earliest memory of F1 is seeing the blue and green BMW-Sauber-Petronas rounding Sepang on TV. With the sound echoing from the CRT TV, it was glorious.
And skirts...
Unpopular opinion: V6s sound better than the V8s. I've always hated how winy they were proper hurt my ears as a kid.
@@rockthedwaynejohnson8188 true but the V8s from the 60s sounded amazing
Agreed, but the V10s and V12s please. Standing trackside in Adelaide in 1994... the sound of the Williams et al... music, and the ear piercing scream of the Ferrari V12. Nothing has come close since.
A huge change that has taken place gradually since I started watching in the early 90's is the reliability. A race where all cars made it to the finish was something to be remembered. With gearbox failures, engines blowing up and other mechanical failures a race was never over until the last corner. There's some legendary races where one leader after the other dropped out and the guy running in a lost position came out to win.
That's a great shout. Yes, 90s races could be a real lottery in terms of reliability. Probably a reflection of driver quality too, having had the standard improve of years (even with some current drivers being less than stellar).
Monaco 96 for example with the podium taken by the only 3 drivers to reach the finish line.
@@stegra5960 Panis' only F1 win, but I think it was a wet race and that played a big part as well. Still the race with the least finishers though if I'm correct.
Thats something even I notice, "only" watching since 2005.
I never forget the engine blow up from Satos car in Monaco 2004
Fun fact: All of Senna’s complete F1 seasons from 1984-1993 were done without refueling and is exactly between two periods where refueling was allowed.
So it was allowed in 1994?
Would the car have been easier around Tamburello had it been heavier?
Don’t know if anyone’s ever mentioned this but the format of these videos is so engaging! Really appreciate all the behind the scenes work that goes into making these videos ❤️
Murray Walker: "Senna asked for the pole position to be moved from the left to the left"
"Michael Schumacher as I expected is extending his lead over Michael Schumacher"
1 light
2 lights
3 lights
4 laps
Errrrrr ……go
My list would be:
1. Schumacher dominance
2. Interesting title fights
3. Vettel being HATED 😂
Hey I believe that the 2021 title battle was quite good
Yes, the 2021 title fight was not interesting at all. Everybody knew at the start of the season Verstappen would become champion.
@@jantijtgat2506 literally no one thought that.
@@jantijtgat2506 by your standard then 2017-2020 season was FAR more boring because we already know mercedes will be won and one of their driver will won Wdc, and also that will be hamiliton because rosberg is already retired. Don’t make me mention 2000-2004
IT DONE BLEW UP!!!
Certainly something that younger viewers won't have experienced, waking up at 3AM on a Sunday morning on 13th October 1996 to witness the whole of the race to see Damon Hill win in Suzuka, with Murray Walker's greatest line "...and I've got to stop, because I've got a lump in my throat!"
It wasn't 3am for most viewers. F1 is an international sport, remember.
@@colehartel7206 Suzuka is a Japanese track. So if the race starts 2 PM local time, it would be 7-9 AM for Europe and 10pm-1am for America, depending on coast. So yeah, not the perfect time for most of the world. That's why a few races in East Asia start in unusual times locally, to accomodate international viewers better.
Few more things
1.Single lap qualifying-2003-2005
2.Naturally aspirated engines of the V8/V10
3.Pre race warmup on Sunday morning
4.1 hour long qualifying with just 12 laps
5.Cars with weird aero horns aka McLaren MP4/20 with its Viking horns
dont forget BMW'S twin keel! i hated that with a passion!
Single lap qualifying was dope though. Today is better, but going all in for a lap had its charm.
@@RafitoOoO I do think the current format we have since 2006 is the best but the single lap qualifying is also great with its own charm. You can watch and appreciate the drivers’ skill of any cars or teams plus love how fuel loads played a huge part in race strategy. Lastly if a top driver gets caught in the wet,made a mistake or have to run early,it’s fun seeing them fight through the field. Cases in point
Michael Schumacher imola 2005
Kimi Raikkonen Suzuka 2005
Juan Pablo Montoya Hockenheim 2005
@@fromthesidelines1453 oh my god I totally forgot that one
Im glad i got the end of V10s and experienced fully the V8s,since 2014 i dont feel as amazing hearing smaller machines and bigger cars
I would enjoy the current engine sound if they brought back the internal engine mics like in 2019 on the redbull you could hear the engine cracking
Might not sound as good but they are faster! That’s the most important part
@@Milkywayboy who cares if they're faster? I'd much rather watch a field of V10s and V12s that are hell even 10 seconds a lap slower than the cars we have now. 90s and 2000s were the best F1 eras in my opinion
@@benchaggaresmusic f1 is the best because they are the fastest
Go watch NASCAR for sound
@@Milkywayboy no
Not for me at least,i know with technology they will only get faster,but its not the same feeling of power,even if its faster
I miss the screaming V10's. I was able to go to the 2005 US GP (yes that one) and the cars shook the stands coming down the front stretch. It was an amazing thing to experience.
Experienced that 2.
the Sound should be #1 to #5 on this list.
Sooo glad you included the late great Murry Walker! I have soo many memories watching F1 with my mum when i was younger and Murry Walker was always amazing, he will always have a special place in my heart. GO! GO! GO!!!!!
More Murray, one I have on my keyring
"And excuse me while I interrupt myself"
"And with half the race gone there's still half the race to go"
Small, nimble cars! They used to look so aggressive being driven as opposed to now. The sound helped too, but there was something about those smaller machines.
yes watch Alonso, Mika, kimi and Juan Pablo flick those cars around in those days were just classic! TURN UP THE VOLUME BOYS WERE ABOUT TO GO GREEN!! nothing like those high rpm NA engines!
The new minimum weight of 798kg would have been unbelievable for most of F1 history. In the early '60s they were allowed to make the cars as light as 450kg! Even going back to the 600kg minimum of the '90s would be great for improving the cars' agility.
One thing: sound! Since the V8's and v10's are a thing of the past no new fan could ever realise how good the sound was of the old cars. #BringbacktheV10
i even have it as a ringtone! love to play it in the staff tunnel at work!!!!!!
Murray Walker, Bill McLaren, John Motson, Sid Waddell, Clive Everton, Brian Johnson.
There are some commentators whose voices embody the sport they are commentating on.
Murray was a force of nature, he’ll never be matched in F1 commentary. His knowledge, passion and enthusiasm for F1 blasted through the TV.
Very proud to still have my Silverstone GP Marshal’s bib that he signed from 1997.
One of the best commentaries from Murray was one for BTTC when the driver puts his middle finger up to another driver and Murray says I’m going for first says John Cleland.
As someone that got into F1 in the middle of the 2020 seson, and now my life is all about F1 and i'm really into F1 now, I'm very sad that i wiil not see those things but i will always come back and Watch the good old races.
search for formula 1 season review on youtube. any season from 1999 till 2012 is worth watching.
I feel like David Croft will be remembered very fondly once he’s retired, not like Walker of course but second to him, like Martin Tyler to John Motson in football.
“It’s lights out and away we go” will become an iconic line, in fact I would argue it is already and I know I’ll definitely miss hearing that once Croft isn’t on anymore.
Nobody will remember Crofty fondly, people can't wait to see the back of him and is nowhere near a second to Murray, you've got Brundle, Hunt, Coulthard, Ben Edwards, James Allen...even for all his cock ups Jonathan Legard i'd put in front of Crofty. Depending on who you ask, either Hunt or brundle will always be 2nd to Murray, both ex F1 drivers who knew what they were talking about, Crofty just talks utter shite most of the time.
"for lewis hamilton only"
most memorable
Single lap qualifying was brilliant!
We saw all the action from every lap (also meaning sponsors were guaranteed airtime), the drivers could really make the difference, we got mixed up grids due to mistakes, weather - tracks drying or getting wetter, track evolution, people missing their lap start time so having to start at the back. It was crazy and exciting but generally a fair way of determining the grid.
The most important thing they will never experience is "luck relative to the car". In the older days so many times the race leader car would break something, spicing up the race.
Started watching in 2012. So glad I got to see some of the V8 cars. Not in person, but on TV.
Refueling was hardly as dangerous as the video implies. There were scary moments very occasionally but generally speaking it was fine. It also gave greater strategy variables, plus lighter cars, pushing harder for longer. Which is something I think we can all agree has been sorely missing in recent years, with drivers having to save everything from fuel to tyres to engines etc.
Thank you. Somebody had to say it. There are literally more people who have died from stray tires than the supposedly "dangerous" refueling. 🙄 It's mostly media sensationalism as with most things, and it brought an important strategic element to the races.
I think the danger mainly came when it was a safety car because you had to wait for the pack to queue up before pitting. So teams would rush a lot more and that’s when scenarios like Massa in Singapore 08 happened.
@@flyingphoenix113 yeah agreed. It feels like an overreaction to me. Plus, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we've seen a rise in the number of mechanics getting hit or run over in recent years because they only have 2.5 seconds to get everything done instead of 7 or 8.
I wish refueling was in F1 again, it's so bad right now
Big flames look worse than a wheel rolling off on its own but in a pit lane the stray wheel will always be more dangerous
I love the fact you included Murray here! He was as much a part of F1 as the regulations themselves.
I remember watching F1 for the fist time back in 2010. I was really young but Seb winning a race was everything I wanted. I also remember that when the turbo hybrid era begun, I was kind of confused by the sounds the cars made, since the screaming noise of those naturally aspirated V8s was really stuck in my mind!
I have staggered watching F1 over the years (watching only some highlights, following a few drivers such as Schumi and Vettel on only their biggest achievements, and hearing all about the Rich Energy debacle) and I only really started to really get into it late last year when I watched some races with friends over on Discord. This video - and a bunch others from you guys and other channels - really helped me get a crash course on what's going on in F1 now and make me catch up before I watch my first full season this year, and hopefully be able to watch the Singapore GP in person (as it's the closest GP location to me). Thanks so much guys, looking forward to this season!
How do you watch them with friends on discord? Can you tell me how it works?
@@danwebber5785 my friend from the Netherlands has a Ziggo Sport subscription to watch F1 so he livestreamed the race to us via Discord's screen sharing, and we talked about everything while it was ongoing. the commentary was in Dutch but at least the graphics are in English and he's translating the key points to us
@@karlostrino3620 right on mate thanks
As an American who has recently gotten into f1 (yes, netflix, sorry) I have watched hundreds of hours of back content and 100% agree with you on Murray walker. Such a legend. Even the times where he had to share the mic (like literally a single mic) with James hunt. Top shelf.
I started following f1 when i was 10 at the start of the 2011 season. Theres a reason Seb is a massive hero of mine. I really miss the sounds of the v8s. I know most people a bit older prefer the v10s but the v8 was the soundtrack as my f1 addiction took hold
same but i was 8 watching on the tv with my parents , red bull was always dominating
- How did you forget ENGINE SOUNDS?! My favorites were the V10s. Back when F1 cars had that "wow" factor.
- Beautiful cars (not that they're ugly today, but those early 2000s cars were just beautiful)
- Kimi in his prime
- Mercedes not dominating (actually Mercedes not even being in the sport as a team, only as an engine supplier)
- Old scoring system (A win was 10 points!)
- Bernie Ecclestone
- Classic, beautiful old F1 logo
- Flags in the podium were actual flags
- Tobacco brands sponsorship
- And of course, Michael Schumacher (GOAT). Keep fighting Legend.
Hell yes 🙌 🎉🥳
Out of all of that the only one I miss and if I had the power to bring back would be Murray!
I appreciate you coming at this as an educational standpoint. Many older fans sometimes make newer fans feel bad because they dont know as much or almost want to gate keep the sport they love.
I've been watching since the end of the v10/start of the v8 era's. They need to be on here for the even newer fans. The noise from those cars were ridiculous compared to the current ones.
same here, i think i started watching in 2005/6 so can just about remember the v10s, although i was very young.
@@dodgycurry I remember seeing my parents watch it when I was a kid, and all I wanted to do was go out and play football. But only just remember the v10's too. 1st full season I sat and watched was 2007 when Lewis joined the sport.
@@joshmilne6611 I used to often sit with my dad from a very young age (like 3-4) and watch the Grand Prix as I’ve always been mad about cars. I always thought my first year watching was 2007 but after further thought, I can distinctly remember the v10s, the Renault mild seven livery and Alonso winning a championship or two.
Those formats are so good bcs they give you the exact information you need and it's only 5mins long. Keep it up!
The tire war and no changing tire rule was one of the biggest jokes by the FIA. Clearly a deliberate way to defeat Ferrari. And so they did.
Even now they're trying to peg back Mercedes because they're just better than everyone else
@@GryphLane not really.. they
(FIA and Mercs) even tried to slow Ferrari down 2018 when Ferrari had a dominant car, also tried to slow down Redbull with the wing issue and the pit speeds. FIA protected Mercedes.
@@driver_18 exactly. Mercedes have only been helped by the FIA
@@driver_18 the changes to disadvantage low rake cars are protecting mercedes? 😂
@@timotiusfabian5743 Even Mercedes admit they didn't know the 2021 rule changes were going to disadvantage them at first, there is literally no way the FIA knew.
With Murray Walker gone, Charlie Whiting, dr Sid Watkins.. It makes you realize how F1 has change generations.
Maybe do a video about those iconic figures (other than drivers) in F1?
I still don't understand the "but muh safety" argument for refueling tho. Indycar does it, nascar does it, sports car racing does it. There's never massive issue with any of those. Don't see why F1 can't go back to refueling when all these other racing series don't have any serious issues with it
I think a large part of it was that it was around the same time as the push to reduce costs and encourage new teams to enter the sport. It had been 15 years since Verstappen's pit fire, so they had plenty of time to ban it on safety grounds before then
Because it'd be boring all over with most overtaking being done in the pits
@@CrusaderAce24 you act as if there already aren't a ton of passes made in the pits already. Besides, refueling would actually increase passing on track anyways. Proof: Indycar
I think creating a system that would allow for safe refuelling is definitely possible, like the green light system currently in use for tyre changes. Just add one more signal for the fuel guy that cannot turn green as long as the fuel hose is still in the car and you're good to go. I'm 100% sure this could work pretty well with the safety regulations.
The main reason why it was banned was that they wanted to have the duels directly on the track and not at the pits. This overtaking in pits was really a problem in the late 2000s, not comparable with Undercuts/Overcuts today.
@@lor7780Its because they are allowed to change starting fuel. They fuel as less as possible. If FIA would regulate, that everyone starts with same amount of fuel, they maybe would have more times when they need to burn it, not save it.
First race I can vividly remember is the 1996 Monaco GP. Born 1992
So...the race that barely had any finishers.
There was also a brief tyre war between Goodyear and Bridgestone between 1997 and 1998. Those were the times.
Alain Prost pushing his car to the finish line at the German Grand Prix in 1986 after he ran out of fuel in the last corner while leading.
The hour-long window to qualify, but everybody waited until the last 10 minutes to get on the track and then they all complained the track was to crowded.
I started watching F1 in the late 70's.
Another Murray commentary I liked was "Senna wanted to change it from left to left"
Matt love your content BUT refueling was amazing and oh my oh my it should come back. Dont think it will but those pit stops were something else.
I always like the comment from the TV show Outnumbered. "Murray Walker was fantastic. He was the perfect commentator because he sounds like a racing car."
Refueling needs to come back. It can be done safely, but the FIA will never do it because that would require admitting IndyCar had a good idea before they did.
Ground effects would like to have a word with you. The Americans never got rid of venturi tunnels.
I disagree. Some teams would try to find loopholes to refuel faster. This wouldn't be safe. It's better that refueling is banned.
@@haze_productions9715 And look how long it took the FIA to admit they made the wrong call.
And even then, they made it a point to come up with as different a ground effect arrangement as possible from what we stuck with. (to their credit, though, using the rear brake cooling ducts to help keep the sides of the diffuser stable to minimize disruption of exiting airflow is legitimately brilliant)
@@hentai69master IndyCar teams would do the same if they could get away with it, but thanks to rigorous safety inspections they can't. Even the FIA made sure to do that after the big 1994 fires that were the results of illegal modifications.
IndyCar has proven since introducing the immobilizers how safe refueling mid-race can be. F1 would be better if they brought it back using the same tech IndyCar uses.
It wasn't IndyCar that brought pitstop to circuit racing.
F1 already had refueling in the 1950s... Ok it was some very slow pitstop, often in the 40 seconds, and it was not always really professional, but still.
The choreographied pit stop, that was nascar in 1963. But it wasn't the first professional pitstop.
The first professional pitstop on circuit racing was done in 1935 in Donington Park, by a German team. They were refueling and changing tires in around 35 seconds in those days.
What happened is the FIA made the race shorter, cutting it from 500km to 300km, and also cut some exotic fuel of the early 1950s.which made team move to kerosene, about the same time as the engine went from front to back. So the pitstop was perceived as not worth it for a long time.
Until the 1980s when Gordon Muray started to do the math and thought that 1 pitstop with his car could work if BMW is able to offer a reliable engine for this...
The FIA than banned refueling over safety, brought it back to try to switch things around, ban it back to try to bring a show back when races were won with pit strategy.
I say bring it back. Why? Two reasons.
1.Have you seen the size of the 1990s cars vs now? No wonder it's hard to pass with car this long.
2. Have you seen that Grosjean crash? I can't help to think that 140 liters of gasoline didn't help that crash.
But made it count. Put like a gaz thank at maximum 50 liters, slow down the pit lane speed a little bit (the speed, right now, is 60 kph: reduce it to 50 kph), and force the team to shut down the engine during refueling. That should force smaller cars and some changes in the engines.
One thing that it didn't mention (especially for us motorsport fans) was the Lollipop Man at the Pit Stop.
This year will be my 20th full season of F1. Call it anyway you want, first decade of 2000's was iconic, and although there were less overtakes, many of them were fantastic because it took everything to make it stick. I don't really care for drs overtakes, that's most artificial thing ever added to Formula 1.
Me is 2022 my 3rd full season i watch a lot of races in 2019 some in 2018 2017 and 2016 and in 2015 when 7 year old me asked in Dutch who is the Dutch driver my dad sayd the one with ver of the names of was new for me in 2017 that the leader board became verticaal exep for horzontaal
1992 when I was 8 it all started for me
And next year is gonna be even worse
I just recently got into F1 in the mid-to-late of last season and I love all your videos. I try to watch all of them and find them very educational for the sport. But while I was watching this I got to thinking... what if you made a video about all the things a newcomer would need to know about the sport to have an idea of what's going on and to understand what and why things are happening. Thanks mate, and I look forward to seeing your upcoming videos soon.
I dont care what anyone says
Refueling gives you more flexibility in strategy (compared to tyres alone) and forces you to take risks and gambles, which dont always line up with your tyre strategy.
Its why indy car feels more fun sometimes cause some teams do 1 less pit and fuel save more than tyre save.
And if you cock up planning your the fuel or tyres strategy you get punished
Also some drivers/teams might be able to pull off 3 stops with an extreme fuel strategy. Cause weight delta is worth 0.4s per lap at most circuitrz
this intro gave me immense "Gentleman, a short view back to the past" vibes
I lived in the times of the Bridgestone and Michelin tyre war, and to those calling for a return of a second tyre supplier I say don't do it, hear me out.
To those who say "it'll improve the racing," will it though? The fact is that the tyre would switch on in a specific track/weather/temperature combination and if you're on the wrong tyre company's tyres, there's nothing you can do other than watch the ones on the right tyres pull away. Worse still, as graphically shown in the infamous 2005 US Grand Prix, there's more self interest at play, rather than looking at the bigger picture, as James Allen said after that race:
"Well it's an illustration of how the teams in Formula One simply can't agree, even in the most extreme circumstances. The FIA didn't seem to want to help either. Formula One should be deeply ashamed of itself today, it lost all semblance of common sense here at Indianapolis, pinch me! Did I really see this?!"
What's often forgotten about 2005 is that after the Spanish Grand Prix, where Bridgestone had two tyre failures on Michael Schumacher's car, they sought addressing of the tyre rules for 2005, but Michelin didn't play ball
I think bridgestone won
The other thing about Indy 2005 that gets forgotten is that Michelin didn't attend the test day that was offered. Neither did Bridgestone, but Bridgestone could transfer data from the Firestones used in IRL so didn't need to.
@@Djarra even if they did though, they wouldn't have been able to use Indy to test. Even at the time, it wasn't one of the nominated tracks used to test the cars
@@SiVlog1989 They were offerd a tyre test day at Indy because of the resurfacing and both manufactures turned it down (they would have had to pay)
The tire war was fine except for the Indianapolis race. And if tire changes were allowed we wouldn't even have that problem.
My entry: The absolute agony/frustration when ITV took advert breaks during the race. This was all pre-Twitter, so you could only find out what happened when James Allen or Murray Walker told you when the race came back on.
-Proper sound
-Smaller cars that could actually race eachother
-Refuelling
-Tyre wars
-Murray Walker/James Allen (I liked him, even though after Hamilton came into F1 he became biased)
-Rivalries that didnt need that much media hype
-Drivers being more aggresive, no bullshit penalties for every contact
I dont know what else could be.
-Driver deaths/injuries to add more drama and emotion
Everyone should be made to listen to a Murray Walker commentary, I started listening to his commentaries back in the 90's and there was no one else like it. Absolute legend 👏
A pretty big one you missed would’ve been v10 and V8 engine sounds
Murray's final commentary in 2001 Indianapolis GP made me fall in love with this sport, his passion of the sport and bringing people together was immaculate, RIP LEGEND, you will be missed
The first time I watched a FULL F1 season is 2021! What a season to watch! And Max is ma favourite driver because he's young unlike Lewis. So I like Max more because I'm 14. And my first F1 memory is the 2016 Austria GP!
Im 21 and 2022 will be my first full F1 season. Also a Max fan because Im part Dutch but also really like Sainz and Gasly
My first F1 Memory was 2017 Sepang, when Wehrlein gave Vettel a Taxi
Glad to see new fans getting involved. My first F1 memory (I think!) was Monaco in around 2001/2002. You had a great season as your first, some of the usually boring races were actually really good in 2021.
And your name is Lewis. Ironic…
My first memory of f1 is 2008 British GP. Lewis absolutely dominated that race
For me as a very fresh F1 fan it would be the HALO, it seems crazy to not have that. Seeing former formula 1 cars without it with driver so open for harm is insane
I miss pre-qualifying. Back in the day there used to be 26 cars starting a race but even more entrants for each race. So before qualifying 14 cars had to be knocked out out before official qualifying began. 20 cars on a grid is too little.
The noise!!! Im 18 so many of my friends who watch f1 do not know about old f1, they say the v6s scream. I went to the silverstone classic a few years ago, 20 90s f1 cars lining up is a real noise. One of those cars could trump the entire grid revving together in a noise battle
Refuelling is not dangerous at all (with the right gear), it just seems so.
Bring back refuelling!
Tell that to Williams when their garage went up in flames and full padoc went to help put it out
Never forget Murray Walker's iconic commentary during Suzuka in 1990 "Senna wanted to move the pole position from the left to the left"
I wholeheartedly disagree with this video on refueling. They need to bring it back, especially considering how heavy these cars are nowadays (which is completely fine - safer cars are better for everyone), but Lewis, George, Kevin, Max, Sebastian, and a few others have stated that they want refueling back. It adds so much diversity to strategy, and allows the cars to push for longer.
They have safety switches where if the car pulls off, the hose will automatically detach from the car and stop pouring fuel. It’s a simple lever action that NASCAR implemented in 2019, and it’s worked wonders. I really hope that F1 listens to the fans and drivers on this one and brings it back. There’s a safe way to implement it nowadays and it would add another element to GP’s.
I understand that F1 wants the manufacturers to push the boundaries of thermal efficiency, but they’re capped at this point due to the restrictive nature of the engine regulations, especially considering that they’re now frozen. There’s every reason to do it now, and few reasons not to.
F1 had a full fule hoses pull completely off and covered cars, driver's in petrol. Then we have the William pit garage go up in flames. Now no fuel to be around the pit lane or garages for safety.
It’s just for the safety but it made races boring as hell
If a faster car was struggling to overtake someone then they would just change strategies so it would be in as much free air as possible
I think another way is to mandate that the tires do not come off the car until the hose is removed, to add a 2-3 second buffer period. With the increase time in pit stops from the refueling it would only make a 20% difference.
@@emmjea6913 still wouldn't make any difference anyway didn't back then. Front runners would be out way in front pit refuel and go as fast as possible have a even bigger gap by end the race.
No they don't need to bring it back and they better don't bring it back
-It only adds more diversity to the strategy on paper, but in real life it doesn't really. You usually get as much fuel as much your tyre lasts. If you think about it, if anything, it even makes strategy more boring as you cannot change it mid-race. If you are stuck behind someone or tyre wear is unexpectedly high or low, then that's it, your race is f*cked. Last year the Spanish and French GPs were made at least somewhat exciting by mid-race strategy changes, which arguably also changed the outcome on both occasions.
-Yes the cars are heavier, so what? Lighter car doesn't necessarily mean better racing. Also if they brought back refuelling they would probably just fit batteries in the freed place which is even heavier.
-Also teams spent loads of money on making fuel pumps more powerful and pump out more liters/second which in itself doesn't fit F1's cost cutting ambitions.
-And then I still didn't talk about safety
I missed out on pretty much all of these because I only discovered F1 via a official video showing strange crashes last year and then my first ever recent video footage I saw was 2021 Hungarian GP.
My favorite part of the official strangest crashes video was a Minardi taking off doing a backflip across the line.
They had reserve cars back in the days…
I watch F1 since 1999 soo the evolution of F1 is phenomenal.From refueling ban, tyre manufacturer competition, technology the bring to the car is really entertaining
The elimination quali's were actually a good idea, but instead of 90 seconds, every 3 laps for all drivers.
You'd still have needed a time limit of some sort
The main problem why it didn’t work was the lack of enough tires. If they would have changed that, the format were pretty sure been quite successfully
Elimination quali would work in esport where you dont have to scrap for space on the track..in reality theyre all on the same track trying to put out fast times at the same time - recipe for disaster.
I miss the hood old days. Been watching f1 since 2007
The old engines being so loud that if you attended a race, you had to wear ear plugs AND ear defenders to avoid getting deafened
A Murray Walker a day, helps you work, rest and play!
Murray was an incredible human, and very generous with his life. One of my favourite people.
Being a fan since 1990 so they are all too familiar.
Tyre war: yeah, F1 could probably see 2 or 3 tyre manufacturers entering the sport instead of just one. An extra factor to set teams apart.
Refuelling: despite opening new strategic options, good it's gone. Not worth the risk.
DRS: yeah, contentious. In an ideal world we'd scrape it. Would be nice to go a full season without it and then draw some conclusions.
Qualifying formats: the current one is the best. Enough said.
Murray Walker: Not being a Brit I only knew him by name. But nice quotes.
I like your idea of having a PTT style implementation of KERs. I think it would be great to have something like a set number of pushes per race and you can choose whenever you want to use them charging or defending or just going stupid fast down the finish straight.
I dislike the current qualifying. I find it annoying that drivers can mess with each other's qualifying. I think either single car quals would do good or even better team quals, let the teams get 6x laps each where their goal is to push/pull each other around as fast as possible. Would even lead to cool intrigue if there is intra team points battle going on.
I miss refueling so much, it creates many different strategies, undercut, overcut, 2 stops, 3 stops, different pitstop times... Races after 2009 are so boring strategy-wise. Nobody ever died on refueling, I don't see much safety issue tbh.
I was watching something the other day in which someone pointed out how safety is the only consideration that gets taken seriously anymore. If something absurd is done on safety grounds, your case against it has to appeal to safety as well. It's a bit of an exaggeration, but I think there's a kernel of truth to it.
1:40 that gas price fading in gives me a lot of nostalgia to the times when gas wasn’t 5 bucks a gallon.
I don't think that refuling was THAT scary and dangerous. Only one I known was Jos Verstappen had a bit of drama with that. Few drivers pulled out the hose and that's it throughout idk 30-40 years maybe of refuling I think. And you know, Nascar, WEC and other endurance championships do refule while racing. And there's nothing dangerous for noone. THAT level of danger was when drivers couldn't change their tires. There was several accidents with that or even good ol US gp at Indianapolis. Cmom dude
I don't really disagree, but I'd argue that in NASCAR or WEC refueling is generally safer than in the old F1 because pitstops on those sports aren't as quick as in F1, so it's harder for a driver do accidentally drive off with the hose attached. But then again I also believe that those incidents were caused by the fact cars didn't have as many sensors as nowadays and it was common for the lollipop man to screw up sometimes. Maybe with those new regulations, could F1 test refueling again sometime in the future? It'd be interesting.
@@Shapershift Yeah, agreed could be that electronics might help in solving that. Aren't nowadays pitstops slower than before? They made some regulation so the red bull lost in their pit stop speed? I mean we could go slower on those, for example f1 cars should have jacks build to the floor of the car and be controlled by spotter. The ideas are on the table and it is Fia's decision about bringing it back.
Seeing my first F1 race in 1992 and watching it regularly since 1993... I still miss those times.
So upset i never got to hear the screaming v10s
Can we just have a whole Murry video, the legendary man deserves it
I'd love to see again mid-race refueling and lighter cars. Maybe I'm missing something here, but couldn't they just make a rule that says you can only do the entire refueling procedure while the car is lifted?
The 12 lap qualifying was the best. There wasn't much to do for long periods but you could focus on the actual fast laps. Now they all happen at once and you don't see anything even tho there is constantly action on track.
Another addition: major controversies from 2007-2009: spygate, crashgate, and teams threatening the FIA to leave F1
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Onboard lap guide, they did this for a couple years in the early 90s, I still remember Senna's "Alain, we miss you" before his lap.
To add another point: the so much higher unreliabilty with especially those big engine blows and races with less then 10 drivers finish.
And another: 24 cars on the grid
26, actually
Michael Schumacer in his prime and golden age at Ferrari against Hakkinen, Murray Walker epic Commentary + V10 sounds era = best F1 Moments ever for me!
2001 to 2006. Otherwise known as Schumacher vs the world. Those were the glory days for me because Michael won just about everything. Hehe. I don't care how boring it was for everyone else. I had a blast watching my hero dominate the sport. I'd use a time machine just to see it all unfold again. Bwahahaha!!!
Fortunately we have David Croft now. He is brilliant too, in fact he is the only reason why i watch races with english commentary instead one with my native language.
Getting rid of refuelling was a great move. Much safer and it means that fuel efficiency is much more valuable
It's racing who cares about fuel efficiency. I want powerful gas guzzling machines that can be heard 10 miles away. V10's all the way
I don’t agree that refuelling is necessarily that dangerous if done correctly… it’s done safely in other, similar motorsports, it was done safely in F1 for years with very few incidents and zero serious ones.
The danger of fire is really overstated. The pit crews and fire safety get it put out within a second or two any time there is an accident. The most dangerous thing that actually happened was the time the hose was left in and got wrapped around one of the pit crews legs but stuff like that is avoidable depending how they choose to refuel the cars.
It also adds so many different dimensions to a race and so many different strategies that have been missing from F1 in recent years and creates races where you often have no idea the actual positions people will finish until the last few laps.
I’d actually like to see it back tbh.
So glad I watched F1 when it was better during the V8 era
Me personally being a new f1 super fan coming from watching drive to survive. I wish I could’ve caught on the sport sooner, it’s a bummer seeing replays from races in the 00’s and seeing that there was such different cars and different technologies seems so interesting.
The era that you refer to in this video as "The Glory Days". Only people who started watching Formula 1 at that time call it that. You might find that many people consider that to be one of the worst eras in F1. It was the refuelling and the tyre war in that era which resulted in the lack of overtaking. The era prior to refuelling had more overtaking. Also calling the early 2000s the "Glory Days" is laughable considering some of the eras that preceded it and the eras that followed. The 60s was very good with Clark and Hill etc. The 70s had amazing cars and Stewart, Andretti, Fittipaldi, Hunt and Lauda just to name a few. Then there was the 80s which needs no explanation. Then once refuelling was banned we had some great seasons. 2010 going down to the last race with multipe drivers able to win. Remember 2012 with multiple race winners etc.
Ok, I'm old, and this is one I hope no one ever has to experience again, but the time when it was not unusual to have drivers regularly killed during the season. It was shocking, sad, tragic and as we've discovered, preventable, but also almost an expected part of motor racing. I distinctly remember that horrible weekend at Imola when Senna and Ratzenberger died and Rubens Barrichello nearly joined them. Since then we have only tragically lost Jules Bianchi, and Grosjean's accident in Bahrain shows how far F1 has come. Fans today have no idea how reassuring it is to see a massive, high-speed crash where the drivers jump out of their cars like nothing happened.
It’s always shocking to see how high the mortality rate was back then. Especially since those times are heavily romanticised.
I came in to say this very thing. People today have no idea what a different sport F1 is now compared to the past. And, IMO, it's much, much better. Not only did multiple world champions die, one, Jochen Rindt, died after he won the championship but before the season ended. If today's safety was still at the pre-1980 level, a significant percentage of drivers over 30 who are still racing would have died years ago. And don't get me started on morons like Jackie Stewart who say racing has become too safe. Tell us, Sir Jackie, how many deaths per season would meet your standards?
My list:
1. Senna (end of sentance)
2. Kimi Räikkonen 2005 Japan
3. V12 + V8 engines
4. Michael Schumachers naughty tactics in 94 + 97
5. Häkkinens speed
What about the fan car , lotus with the double body or chassis. Williams active suspension ,or the car with the vibration dumper ,Six/eight wheel car, the cars with the huge disfuser
The memories of watching races religiously every Sunday at my grandparents house as a kid, some how never forget buttons Malaysian win and is that glock among a lot of other classics. Good times.
Grooved tryes! These were introduced alongside the skinny 1800mm cars in 1998 to reduce speeds. Thank goodness for the return of slicks in 2009 - that was the change of regulations between 2008-9 I was looking forward to
I will say one thing if you watch old F1 clips that you might hear the humming and blasting of air horns.
In the quali format you could add the single lap quali. A small mistake could cost a driver 10 places and with different fuel strategies we had mixed grids