A sad and unjust history indeed. To this day, Native Americans are not duly respected for their wisdom,history or love for their land. I think it is a disgrace they are not treated with more respect.
Aloha from Hawai'i! Your are very brave to make this post. I hope that you don't get any nasty backlash because there are many who still believe that this school and many others like it (in Canada, too) were the way to go. If anyone goggles "Indian Schools", they will find many horrifying documentaries about these schools. I believe that you are correct on two points you made: First, we need to know about our past, no matter how painful it might be. And second, yes, some abused kids went on to spur cultural and linguistic rejuvenation. The same type of schools existed here in Hawai'i. Our Grandma Emma (b. 1899) was literally beaten by teachers for speaking Hawaiian, just like in the "Indian Schools". She and her classmates suffered severe psychological and emotional issues, but they perservered. Their descendants are now on the forefront of language and culture resurgence efforts.
Let me add a couple of comments which no-one will probably read. America's seemingly bent on "English only" policies is misguided. Can you imagine what would have happened during WW II in the Pacific without the Navaho Code Talkers? (Check them out.) And why does the US military have to spend tens of millions to send recruits of immigrant origin to the Monterey language school to learn their ancestral languages? This wouldn't be necessary if they had had the opportunity to grow up bilingual. Having citizens who are bilingual, especially in the military and State Department, is important to our national security.
When thinking of the Native Americans, I think of all the tears, despair and anguish, the sadness.. I can't imagine how they felt seeing their children taken away. The Native Americans have a rich culture, and this land truly belongs to them.. Thanks for this very respectful and informative Vlog!!
I found this incredibly sad. Especially the unknowns. I’m assuming most of them were children. To die so far away from home and away from your family. Tragic.
The school is still there i was told. Google has the address as 122 forbes ave. The cemetery is on my list to go see. I've been to alot places that I saw on this channel first so thank you wandering woodsman
That was a dream catcher laying on top of that stone. It is to catch bad spirits as the person slept. Thank you for sharing a very important part of history. What a tragic event.
History is truth. We can not pick what we want to remember. The bad as well as the good has made us who we are. Erasing is not the answer. Learning is. Thanks for another great video.
I visited this site several years ago. There is a small museum with pictures of groups of children who attended the school. I felt an overwhelming sense of sadness imagining the fear and pain they must have experienced. Very few people in this country are aware of this part of our history.
Native Americans were given American names , who served in the military in World War II too. In 2002 I went to my Dad's ship's reunion in Albuquerque, NM He served on the USS Gridley DD 380 . A Destroyer of the Gridley Class . Reason it was in Albuquerque was because a member of the crew, Santiago Riley , a Peublo Tribal Member of the Laguna Peublo located West of Albuquerque. We all were invited to attend their Harvest Festival, and Santiago's family had a lunch in the Community Center for the whole group. At the Lunch I met Al Smith , the youngest member of the Navajo Codetalkers. He was technical advisor for the Movie " Windtalkers" and played the grandfather at the bus. Now most of the crew members are gone.
To think of the terror of these children, ripped from their tribes, families and lands makes me very sad. Thank you for highlighting this. I agree, good and bad history must be preserved to learn from.
Thank you for this video. A few years ago, the Carlisle school was in the national news because the Native American tribes wanted the remains of the children buried there returned to them. I was teaching a poli sci course at a college and we used this controversy as a discussion. Again, thank you for this video.
Im part of a group of people whom put enteries on find a grave....sometimes people want pictures of graves of their families but live too far away to come back to take pictures. I did one recently, and the person was thrilled to actually see the stone once again...find a grave was once a single identity, and then sold out to ancestry...check it out.
Thanks for your sensitivity concerning this dark chapter of our history. Fascinating to read the mix of Americanized and Native names. Glad each tribe was documented on the stones.
So sad but all our countries have our deep regrets from the past We just have to teach our children and their children that we all share this world Thank you Cliff you are a wonderfull teacher xx
My friend the videos you have done from my home Pennsylvania have been outstanding. This video in question is my favorite, and the hardest to watch so far. My family are decentents of a a CHEROKEE Princess that ties to the Christopher Columbus voyage many moons ago. You handled this very professional like, and I thank you. These were sad times indeed, but as you stated in different terminology. Much good rose from the ashes indeed! Don't stop doing what you do. God bless you sir.
Thank you for show casing the Indian gravesite. I can honestly tell you it has always been well kept. I recommend visiting the Army Heritage museum sometime. There is also a wonderful trail you can walk where it shows different moments in history of the military. They have tanks, helicopters, old log homes, trenches, etc that you can read up on or explore while walking.
It is sad and disturbing. I wrote an essay on the Indian Boarding Schools for a United States History class in college and I did pretty well on it too. When I was doing the research on the subject, I came across the Carisle Indian Boarding school and wrote about it. I also found personal interviews and a lot of good information including the different groups, classes, meal times, and other activities at the schools. It is sad because a lot of the Indians got sick and died from illnesses, those who lived to tell the tale often told about losing a family member or friend. "The federal government forced Native Americans to assimilate by leaving the only life they had ever known on the tribal lands and brought them to boarding schools, so that they could learn the ways of white man." The quote is an excerpt from my essay on the boarding schools and I learned a lot of things that I had not known about the topic into my essay and even my instructor learned things that he had not known before either until he read my essay. Thank you for sharing this video and I hope to visit there someday. Stay safe and be careful this Holiday season. Happy Thanksgiving!
I watched a show on FBi Most Wanted It was about a school in Canada run by the Catholic Church. They could not find a school in the USA. The school was called the Mushroom, because they mostly ate mush. The children were given a number, would not go by their name. Their hair was cut very short and they were not treated well. Do you remember studying anything like this/. It was so sad.
Drove right by that and didn't stop back in September after a group of us went out to eat at the 1757 Bar & Grille from our TH-camr meetup at the Army Heritage Museum. Now I'll have to go back out there sometime and check it out for myself.
It makes me happy the spot is taken care of and the graves are washed. I thought it was going to be run down and forgotten because of its location next to the road.
This was quite intriguing. My husband’s grandfather was Apache, he was brought to what is now the Carlisle War College. He was there with John Thorpe … he found a wife , got married and had children. Unfortunately there’s no records of his original Native “ name “ ( of course ) as a result of assimilation. But also there was a fire in the archive building so my husband has no idea of any other interesting information. I wish there was a way to. It would explain a lot of things. We live in Dillsburg which is about 15 minutes away.
The weeping cherry tree reminds me of the Kokopelli Indian symbol. Very interesting videos, I visit many of the places you video, and now go back and seek these interesting sites you highlight. Thank you, for instance yesterday I was at the cemetery of the pioneer settlers of the town Pandemonium in Tuscarora State Forest.
Thank you for trip to the cemetery of those poor children in that Indian School , what a sad video for those children being torn away from their families.
Cliff , Another great history video you prepared like none other can provide us .Thank You . Agree 100% our history should never be erased it has made our country better . Great incredible knowledge shared which is appreciated .
Very educational video. I have followed you for some time as I learned about you from Jay's Channel. I'm from St. Louis, Mo. And have visited the Trail of Tears in southeast Missouri. Indeed our original forefathers were indeed done wrongly by the U.S. Government. A sad but, very important part of our history. Again thank you for your awesome and interesting videos!
Thank you for showing this. It is sad and at the same time teach us something. I still think taking away a person culture, their way of life, their heritage is wrong. U can change their name. Teach them a different way. But who they are. U cannot take that away. Depend on how old these children were. Some had already been taught about their culture, who their ancestors were. Names given at birth. Yes history is important. I'm sure those who survived still wanted to know their true culture their ancestors and their ways. I'm sure they thought they was doing these children a favor. But many must of been confused. Given new names, taught to live a different life. I'm glad those tribe name was on their headstone. Many probably died from diseases. I hope they was treated fair. But there's some things we are not going learn in a book.. All in all they were human beings. Should be treated and respected as such. The school probably is gone. The area it was a marker should be placed.. Thank you for going there. Showing us what some never knew, probably would never have known had u not been interested enough to search this. I wonder how many have families still alive. Maybe its just me. But should be with family not in a fenced area.I hope some see this and will want to have their remains moved. See in unknown disturbs me no one will know who they were or the tribe they came from. Keep doing what u do. I appreciate it. I always learn something. Bless you. Take care and be safe. Love, respect, and positivity always. Neita James.:-)
Thank you so much for shedding light on this subject. I had Pa. history in high school but I think they left this part out. Very interesting. I wonder how many people went through this school.
Oh that was just wonderful. We have a bad history in Australia too. Most countries would I imagine. I enjoyed hearing the history good or bad it’s good to know and as you say learn from our mistakes. Thank you so much for taking me along I just loved it. Please stay safe and take care
hindsight is 20/20 and maybe these people 140 years ago thought they were helping these kids to have a future that they wouldn't have on a reservation, still doesn't mean it was right. same could be said for some in public ed. today who strip our kids of who they are and our countrys history
thank you for your presentation; I have driven past that site several dozen times; I once had access to the War College as an enlisted member of the Army Reserve yet felt it was more honorable to leave the gravesites in peace after learning some of the unfavorable history of the school; I was gladdened when I learned of the efforts to reunite these interred remains with their native tribes a few years ago (the gaps in the rows are where the remains have been transferred); you should visit the Army Heritage Center nearby & show the outdoor displays for folks who can't visit the site...the archives at the Heritage Center might have more detailed histories on the people buried there
This goes out to the wandering woodsman,I am Native American and I do volunteer work for this site.....some of your info is not accurate,I would like to get together so we can discuss to further educate you on this subject...these children were ripped from their parents loving arms away from everything they have ever known,just to Kill the Indian Save the Man...the school also operated until the late 1950s I would like to help you understand the tragedy these children went thru just to be assimilated into White America! When I am there on site I feel the pain,suffering and utter dread these innocent children went thru because we were labeled Savages by the US government! Also there are 240 gravesites with 180 bodies in the ground that were relocated from the baseball diamond grandstands! The children built and maintained that school,they built the LeTort Creek waterway that flows thru the barracks 70% of the structures were built by students! I hope I didn't offend anyone with my words I am only trying to educate and raise awareness to the oppressive events that our own government put these children thru.....I hope to hear from you on this matter....reach me on Facebook under Johnny BlackHawk
Great message in this one on history and learning from it. Sounds like a great opportunity for a part two. Maybe a video of the old school building if it still stands and maybe the original burial site?
Great Videos. What is your best way of protecting against ticks ???? Thank you for your videos. Im looking forward to taking my family on some of your trips
This has happened in the city we live in too. The Chippewas now own the old school and cemetery. At first they refused...I didn't blame them. Is very sad and do hope we've all have learned from this too.
Very interesting. . .also very sad that the children had no dates of birth listed. . .soul chilling, that there were so very many 'unknown's'. . .this is a good lesson for all Americans as we ourselves are under siege by Global Corporatists\Oligarchs who wish to eliminate any trace of our organic culture. Thank you for your work, Cliff.
Great video. And a lots of history. Those poor children never made it home. God bless you Cliff. I noticed that each grave had one flower. Does anyone know who puts those on there?
It is a fascinating, intriguing, & very sad part of history. No one should ever be stripped of their identity. Grateful there was rejuvenation because of this. Yes we should definitely learn from the bad & never repeat those actions. It does look like their resting place is very well cared for & respected. Do like how some kept part of their names & tribes were represented. Thanks Cliff for this lesson even though hard to hear, their story needs told. Peaceful sleep to all those who rest there.⚘
Thank you for covering this. Some of these schools operated into the 80s and 90s. Many more deaths occurred than we will ever know. The abuse that occurred has led many to be unstable adults.
America like other countries has a history rather it be bright or sad...history should never be erased its a time line written upon the trace of our people's throughout the ages. We must remember The Indian cemetery at the Army War College is a great reminder not all decisions are great ones but yet made by imperfect people in an earlier period of time. I like many who love history each find our own story within another's past lives and deep stories. May God rest their souls and may all of those effected by these stories of tragedies find peace in a torn world that is forever changing...and may we learn /others from the many past mistakes to never tread this way again . May God forgive our transgressions and restore our hearts with love, care & compassion
Thank you for bringing this horrible history to light for many unaware-my great gram was one that was put in a "school"and thank goodness she was adopted out to wonderful people-these were more like nazi gulags-never to return to their People-abused ,neglected ,and abused and Sold! there WERE more in the East! The government and army etc.back then died with blood and sorrowful souls on their hands.More than sad...disgusting...
@@jayforkner2692 My mistake not Missouri. When I lived in Oklahoma I worked across the state line in MO and worked with Native Americans from various tribes.
Although the circumstances are very sad for the children the cemetery shows that it is very respectfully kept. They honor their native tribes roots which I am glad they acknowledge. I wonder of disease took the children like small pox, TB, or another one? I will have to look up this school. Often St. Katherine Drexel would establish schools and send nuns to help organize them. St. Katherine did come from the Drexel family of Philadelphia. She gave up her fortune to her missions.
Cliff as you walked around I noticed several gaps where markers should have been. Think these are remains that have be repatriated? Thx for another touching video
They were able to rid the world of some of the most powerful spirituality. I’m just happy they weren’t able to completely get rid of the native culture, religion, and spirituality. I believe the indigenous way will make a strong return one of these days.
Thank you for doing this video. As you said our government did not do right by native Americans from day one and something like sending the children to school and depriving them of their native families and identity is a stink on the USA. At least these graves are well maintained. RIP all there.
Do you happen to know if there are still records of students who attended the school? A member of my mom's family went to the school but we don't have much information!
I remember learning about this is school. I was flabbergasted at the cruelty. To take children, people and try to stamp out their culture is beyond horrific. We must always remember the mistakes, injustice, cruelty of our past so hopefully we do not repeat it!!
I don't understand the Unknown ones. They were given names when they got there so why isn't it on the stone? Hate to even say it but...were they really moved to the new cemetery or just the stones. Don't think they had enough respect for them to bother putting that much time and effort in to move that many.
That wouldnt make any sense seeing as they went to the time and effort and cost to dedicate a new cemetery, with stones and so on even for the ones they couldnt identify. If you werent going to make the effort to do it properly, you wouldnt make the effort at all. Those arent the original stones. They're too uniform and new to be the originals. More likely the original markers were too broken, worn or simply missing, to get the right information from them. And if the records for the school are missing or incomplete, that information is probably lost to time. Over the time that the school was open, hundreds of the students died mainly from infectious diseases. Most were claimed by their families and returned home for burial. The 186 remaining at the school mostly died from tuberculosis. The school closed because the US War Department needed the building back. Carlisle was a barracks prior to the opening of the school. As for respect, dont believe everything negative you hear. Dig deeper. The man who founded the school was an Army officer who had spent a lot of time working with the Native Americans. When he died, after the school closed, he was buried at Arlington. His former native students at the school raised the money and had his marker dedicated from themselves. They were apparently very fond of him and called him "Father"
America, and almost all other countries, have horrible history of killing. If you were “different” in any way, whether it was color, gender, how your eyes were set, your nose, and of course religion belief, was just an excuse to isolate, or even kill. You are right, we have to learn from history to not duplicate. Nice tribute, and your right, they all had loved ones.
@Mary H so your saying the college you went to didn’t teach history classes? I’m over 50 myself and I took so many different history classes in College.
I really like this kind of video. Unfortunately, the history of this place will only be what we have been allowed to hear. If the children/people buried there could speak I'm sure they would tell a different tale. Great video!
Canada did the same thing a lot of native Americans fled Canada to the USA to flee the schools and to find employment and freedom both of my grandmother fled Canada to escape the schools so there children win not suffer the schools
A lot of colonization unfortunately. My grandmother was full blooded Cochimí a tribe from the Baja California region and there is absolutely nothing left of the culture, traditions and language because of assimilation into the Spanish culture and Catholic religion. The boarding schools went on well into the 20th century, but the United States turned a blind eye to it. There are still living relatives that remember the horror of being taken from their parents into these so called "schools".
When you take over another persons land and try to make them like what you want then NO America is not the only one as the English ( united for now Britain) is very much to blame as America is there becuase of them and many other countrys but now we should move forward
I had shared this with a few "native American ppl ik... please resort to using native American than the word indian... cuz I ndian makes some angry ..... like racial words anger other races.. remember. Use native American instead of indian
A sad and unjust history indeed. To this day, Native Americans are not duly respected for their wisdom,history or love for their land. I think it is a disgrace they are not treated with more respect.
THE ONLY MINORITY THAT HAS A RIGHT TO COMMPLAIN, YET RARELY DO.
@@micahlamilton5442 so true
Aloha from Hawai'i! Your are very brave to make this post. I hope that you don't get any nasty backlash because there are many who still believe that this school and many others like it (in Canada, too) were the way to go. If anyone goggles "Indian Schools", they will find many horrifying documentaries about these schools. I believe that you are correct on two points you made: First, we need to know about our past, no matter how painful it might be. And second, yes, some abused kids went on to spur cultural and linguistic rejuvenation. The same type of schools existed here in Hawai'i. Our Grandma Emma (b. 1899) was literally beaten by teachers for speaking Hawaiian, just like in the "Indian Schools". She and her classmates suffered severe psychological and emotional issues, but they perservered. Their descendants are now on the forefront of language and culture resurgence efforts.
Let me add a couple of comments which no-one will probably read. America's seemingly bent on "English only" policies is misguided. Can you imagine what would have happened during WW II in the Pacific without the Navaho Code Talkers? (Check them out.) And why does the US military have to spend tens of millions to send recruits of immigrant origin to the Monterey language school to learn their ancestral languages? This wouldn't be necessary if they had had the opportunity to grow up bilingual. Having citizens who are bilingual, especially in the military and State Department, is important to our national security.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” Albert Einstein
When thinking of the Native Americans, I think of all the tears, despair and anguish, the sadness.. I can't imagine how they felt seeing their children taken away. The Native Americans have a rich culture, and this land truly belongs to them.. Thanks for this very respectful and informative Vlog!!
Life / Man /Humans can be soooo cruel....
You can learn more from your mistakes than you can from your successes.
TY for this....my ancestors buried there, appreciate your efforts, as well as I....
Our country has so much history people don’t want to talk about it. I love your perspective and thank you so much for taking us there.
The real truth is it was our ancestors that created this sadness even though people would not want to admit that
I, myself, am part Cherokee. My great grandmother was full blood Cherokee, so these type of stories always tug at my heart. Thanks for sharing!!
I found this incredibly sad. Especially the unknowns. I’m assuming most of them were children. To die so far away from home and away from your family. Tragic.
The school is still there i was told. Google has the address as 122 forbes ave. The cemetery is on my list to go see. I've been to alot places that I saw on this channel first so thank you wandering woodsman
That was a dream catcher laying on top of that stone. It is to catch bad spirits as the person slept. Thank you for sharing a very important part of history. What a tragic event.
History is truth. We can not pick what we want to remember. The bad as well as the good has made us who we are. Erasing is not the answer. Learning is. Thanks for another great video.
I visited this site several years ago. There is a small museum with pictures of groups of children who attended the school. I felt an overwhelming sense of sadness imagining the fear and pain they must have experienced. Very few people in this country are aware of this part of our history.
That hoop you picked up is a Dream Catcher. Let's good dreams threw traps bad dreams.
Native Americans were given American names , who served in the military in World War II too. In 2002 I went to my Dad's ship's reunion in Albuquerque, NM He served on the USS Gridley DD 380 . A Destroyer of the Gridley Class . Reason it was in Albuquerque was because a member of the crew, Santiago Riley , a Peublo Tribal Member of the Laguna Peublo located West of Albuquerque. We all were invited to attend their Harvest Festival, and Santiago's family had a lunch in the Community Center for the whole group. At the Lunch I met Al Smith , the youngest member of the Navajo Codetalkers. He was technical advisor for the Movie " Windtalkers" and played the grandfather at the bus. Now most of the crew members are gone.
Very interesting.
I met a Native American Vietnam veteran here in Canada at Walmart. He was a nice guy.
To think of the terror of these children, ripped from their tribes, families and lands makes me very sad. Thank you for highlighting this. I agree, good and bad history must be preserved to learn from.
Thank you for this video. A few years ago, the Carlisle school was in the national news because the Native American tribes wanted the remains of the children buried there returned to them. I was teaching a poli sci course at a college and we used this controversy as a discussion. Again, thank you for this video.
I just came upon your channel.. thankful for your Presentation. God. Bless You...
Im part of a group of people whom put enteries on find a grave....sometimes people want pictures of graves of their families but live too far away to come back to take pictures. I did one recently, and the person was thrilled to actually see the stone once again...find a grave was once a single identity, and then sold out to ancestry...check it out.
I am well aware of the boarding schools in British Columbia
Horror stories
Thanks for your sensitivity concerning this dark chapter of our history. Fascinating to read the mix of Americanized and Native names. Glad each tribe was documented on the stones.
So sad but all our countries have our deep regrets from the past
We just have to teach our children and their children that we all share this world
Thank you Cliff you are a wonderfull teacher xx
thank you for your dignified tribute to our American brothers and sisters
My friend the videos you have done from my home Pennsylvania have been outstanding. This video in question is my favorite, and the hardest to watch so far. My family are decentents of a a CHEROKEE Princess that ties to the Christopher Columbus voyage many moons ago. You handled this very professional like, and I thank you. These were sad times indeed, but as you stated in different terminology. Much good rose from the ashes indeed! Don't stop doing what you do. God bless you sir.
Thank you for show casing the Indian gravesite. I can honestly tell you it has always been well kept. I recommend visiting the Army Heritage museum sometime. There is also a wonderful trail you can walk where it shows different moments in history of the military. They have tanks, helicopters, old log homes, trenches, etc that you can read up on or explore while walking.
They gave us to the tools to preserve our cultures. Interesting outlook.
Enjoyed this little bit of history! Thank you!
I used to do business on the Army Base and never knew the cemetery was there. Thank you for bringing it and the story to life.
Seen so many videos people doing the trail from start to finish and you show show so much more another great video.
Sounds familiar 🌟
They each have a flower,that's nice⚘
OMG I am literally doing my final paper on Carlisle!!! Thank you so much for making this video and going out there.
Prettyeagle-what a beautiful name-very interesting, Cliff-thank you for bringing this to our attention-may we learn again from this story!
Well done, but very sad American history. Thanks!💯
It is sad and disturbing. I wrote an essay on the Indian Boarding Schools for a United States History class in college and I did pretty well on it too. When I was doing the research on the subject, I came across the Carisle Indian Boarding school and wrote about it. I also found personal interviews and a lot of good information including the different groups, classes, meal times, and other activities at the schools.
It is sad because a lot of the Indians got sick and died from illnesses, those who lived to tell the tale often told about losing a family member or friend. "The federal government forced Native Americans to assimilate by leaving the only life they had ever known on the tribal lands and brought them to boarding schools, so that they could learn the ways of white man." The quote is an excerpt from my essay on the boarding schools and I learned a lot of things that I had not known about the topic into my essay and even my instructor learned things that he had not known before either until he read my essay.
Thank you for sharing this video and I hope to visit there someday. Stay safe and be careful this Holiday season. Happy Thanksgiving!
I watched a show on FBi Most Wanted It was about a school in Canada run by the Catholic Church. They could not find a school in the USA. The school was called the Mushroom, because they mostly ate mush. The children were given a number, would not go by their name. Their hair was cut very short and they were not treated well. Do you remember studying anything like this/. It was so sad.
Drove right by that and didn't stop back in September after a group of us went out to eat at the 1757 Bar & Grille from our TH-camr meetup at the Army Heritage Museum. Now I'll have to go back out there sometime and check it out for myself.
It makes me happy the spot is taken care of and the graves are washed. I thought it was going to be run down and forgotten because of its location next to the road.
This was quite intriguing. My husband’s grandfather was Apache, he was brought to what is now the Carlisle War College. He was there with John Thorpe … he found a wife , got married and had children. Unfortunately there’s no records of his original Native “ name “ ( of course ) as a result of assimilation. But also there was a fire in the archive building so my husband has no idea of any other interesting information. I wish there was a way to. It would explain a lot of things. We live in Dillsburg which is about 15 minutes away.
Thanks so much for making this video. and showing us the history of this grave site. greatly appreciate all your hard work,
My grand mother( dad's mom), was sent to carliel, Kate Wolf( e). We are Eastern band Cherokee from Big cove township of Cherokee NC...
The weeping cherry tree reminds me of the Kokopelli Indian symbol. Very interesting videos, I visit many of the places you video, and now go back and seek these interesting sites you highlight. Thank you, for instance yesterday I was at the cemetery of the pioneer settlers of the town Pandemonium in Tuscarora State Forest.
Thank you for trip to the cemetery of those poor children in that Indian School , what a sad video for those children being torn away from their families.
We have the same shameful history in Canada too. They were called residential schools here. Nancy
Yes and mass graves where children were just dumped into like the residential school in Brantford Ontario
Cliff , Another great history video you prepared like none other can provide us .Thank You . Agree 100% our history should never be erased it has made our country better . Great incredible knowledge shared which is appreciated .
Some of those buried came from far away like the Nez Perce tribe people. To be brought all the way to Pennsylvania...wow.
Almost seems like they made a point of at least one from every tribe. Strange. Thank you for the video! So sad.
Very educational video. I have followed you for some time as I learned about you from Jay's Channel. I'm from St. Louis, Mo. And have visited the Trail of Tears in southeast Missouri. Indeed our original forefathers were indeed done wrongly by the U.S. Government. A sad but, very important part of our history. Again thank you for your awesome and interesting videos!
Thank you for showing this. It is sad and at the same time teach us something. I still think taking away a person culture, their way of life, their heritage is wrong. U can change their name. Teach them a different way. But who they are. U cannot take that away. Depend on how old these children were. Some had already been taught about their culture, who their ancestors were. Names given at birth. Yes history is important. I'm sure those who survived still wanted to know their true culture their ancestors and their ways. I'm sure they thought they was doing these children a favor. But many must of been confused. Given new names, taught to live a different life. I'm glad those tribe name was on their headstone. Many probably died from diseases. I hope they was treated fair. But there's some things we are not going learn in a book.. All in all they were human beings. Should be treated and respected as such. The school probably is gone. The area it was a marker should be placed.. Thank you for going there. Showing us what some never knew, probably would never have known had u not been interested enough to search this. I wonder how many have families still alive. Maybe its just me. But should be with family not in a fenced area.I hope some see this and will want to have their remains moved. See in unknown disturbs me no one will know who they were or the tribe they came from. Keep doing what u do. I appreciate it. I always learn something. Bless you. Take care and be safe. Love, respect, and positivity always. Neita James.:-)
Definitely sad history, can't erase the past got to learn from it, well said. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing this history. Very unfortunate story.
Thank you so much for shedding light on this subject. I had Pa. history in high school but I think they left this part out. Very interesting. I wonder how many people went through this school.
Oh that was just wonderful. We have a bad history in Australia too. Most countries would I imagine. I enjoyed hearing the history good or bad it’s good to know and as you say learn from our mistakes. Thank you so much for taking me along I just loved it. Please stay safe and take care
hindsight is 20/20 and maybe these people 140 years ago thought they were helping these kids to have a future that they wouldn't have on a reservation, still doesn't mean it was right. same could be said for some in public ed. today who strip our kids of who they are and our countrys history
I don’t think that beating children and raping them was doing a good deed for them because that’s what went on in these so-called schools
thank you for your presentation; I have driven past that site several dozen times; I once had access to the War College as an enlisted member of the Army Reserve yet felt it was more honorable to leave the gravesites in peace after learning some of the unfavorable history of the school; I was gladdened when I learned of the efforts to reunite these interred remains with their native tribes a few years ago (the gaps in the rows are where the remains have been transferred); you should visit the Army Heritage Center nearby & show the outdoor displays for folks who can't visit the site...the archives at the Heritage Center might have more detailed histories on the people buried there
This goes out to the wandering woodsman,I am Native American and I do volunteer work for this site.....some of your info is not accurate,I would like to get together so we can discuss to further educate you on this subject...these children were ripped from their parents loving arms away from everything they have ever known,just to Kill the Indian Save the Man...the school also operated until the late 1950s I would like to help you understand the tragedy these children went thru just to be assimilated into White America! When I am there on site I feel the pain,suffering and utter dread these innocent children went thru because we were labeled Savages by the US government! Also there are 240 gravesites with 180 bodies in the ground that were relocated from the baseball diamond grandstands! The children built and maintained that school,they built the LeTort Creek waterway that flows thru the barracks 70% of the structures were built by students! I hope I didn't offend anyone with my words I am only trying to educate and raise awareness to the oppressive events that our own government put these children thru.....I hope to hear from you on this matter....reach me on Facebook under Johnny BlackHawk
Great message in this one on history and learning from it. Sounds like a great opportunity for a part two. Maybe a video of the old school building if it still stands and maybe the original burial site?
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Thank you for your videos. Im looking forward to taking my family on some of your trips
Being part American native myself, I find this very interesting indeed! Sad too. Thanks for showing us this! 😊
This has happened in the city we live in too. The Chippewas now own the old school and cemetery. At first they refused...I didn't blame them. Is very sad and do hope we've all have learned from this too.
This was so interesting. Yes we need to know history so that we can learn from it! Never knew this existed. I am going to try and visit!
Very interesting. . .also very sad that the children had no dates of birth listed. . .soul chilling, that there were so very many 'unknown's'. . .this is a good lesson for all Americans as we ourselves are under siege by Global Corporatists\Oligarchs who wish to eliminate any trace of our organic culture. Thank you for your work, Cliff.
Great video. And a lots of history. Those poor children never made it home. God bless you Cliff. I noticed that each grave had one flower. Does anyone know who puts those on there?
It is a fascinating, intriguing, & very sad part of history. No one should ever be stripped of their identity. Grateful there was rejuvenation because of this. Yes we should definitely learn from the bad & never repeat those actions. It does look like their resting place is very well cared for & respected. Do like how some kept part of their names & tribes were represented. Thanks Cliff for this lesson even though hard to hear, their story needs told. Peaceful sleep to all those who rest there.⚘
Thank you for covering this. Some of these schools operated into the 80s and 90s. Many more deaths occurred than we will ever know. The abuse that occurred has led many to be unstable adults.
America like other countries has a history rather it be bright or sad...history should never be erased its a time line written upon the trace of our people's throughout the ages. We must remember The Indian cemetery at the Army War College is a great reminder not all decisions are great ones but yet made by imperfect people in an earlier period of time. I like many who love history each find our own story within another's past lives and deep stories. May God rest their souls and may all of those effected by these stories of tragedies find peace in a torn world that is forever changing...and may we learn /others from the many past mistakes to never tread this way again . May God forgive our transgressions and restore our hearts with love, care & compassion
I wonder how many were left at the original site.
Thank you for bringing this horrible history to light for many unaware-my great gram was one that was put in a "school"and thank goodness she was adopted out to wonderful people-these were more like nazi gulags-never to return to their People-abused ,neglected ,and abused and Sold! there WERE more in the East! The government and army etc.back then died with blood and sorrowful souls on their hands.More than sad...disgusting...
I agree with you about history.
The military takes great respect in there graves. Anywhere else wouldn't have the same respect. Also there's a Jim Thorpe Gymnasium.
Many of the Native American Tribes that used to be in PA are now on reservations in Missouri and Oklahoma.
Indian reservations in Missouri?
@@jayforkner2692 My mistake not Missouri. When I lived in Oklahoma I worked across the state line in MO and worked with Native Americans from various tribes.
Hi, from Carlisle, England. Pity those poor children. Taken from their parents, given new names, forbidden from talking in their native language.
It seems so sad that some are not known!
1:55. Literally a truth that many people are so blind too. Sad, hope we can progress.
I believe for those interested,Dickson College is working on digitizing the records of the Carlisle Indian School
And, I thought you were going to talk about Carlisle, Cumbria where my family is from....lol! No Indian schools there.
Although the circumstances are very sad for the children the cemetery shows that it is very respectfully kept. They honor their native tribes roots which I am glad they acknowledge. I wonder of disease took the children like small pox, TB, or another one? I will have to look up this school. Often St. Katherine Drexel would establish schools and send nuns to help organize them. St. Katherine did come from the Drexel family of Philadelphia. She gave up her fortune to her missions.
Some of them died of deseases, some were simply shot. New born babies were thrown alive into wood stoves.
So sad. The school for these children did no better than the government
we need visit our past to guide our future to do better
Cliff as you walked around I noticed several gaps where markers should have been. Think these are remains that have be repatriated? Thx for another touching video
It's sad
They were able to rid the world of some of the most powerful spirituality. I’m just happy they weren’t able to completely get rid of the native culture, religion, and spirituality. I believe the indigenous way will make a strong return one of these days.
Thank you for doing this video. As you said our government did not do right by native Americans from day one and something like sending the children to school and depriving them of their native families and identity is a stink on the USA. At least these graves are well maintained. RIP all there.
Do you happen to know if there are still records of students who attended the school? A member of my mom's family went to the school but we don't have much information!
I remember learning about this is school. I was flabbergasted at the cruelty.
To take children, people and try to stamp out their culture is beyond horrific.
We must always remember the mistakes, injustice, cruelty of our past so hopefully we do not repeat it!!
I don't understand the Unknown ones. They were given names when they got there so why isn't it on the stone? Hate to even say it but...were they really moved to the new cemetery or just the stones. Don't think they had enough respect for them to bother putting that much time and effort in to move that many.
That wouldnt make any sense seeing as they went to the time and effort and cost to dedicate a new cemetery, with stones and so on even for the ones they couldnt identify.
If you werent going to make the effort to do it properly, you wouldnt make the effort at all.
Those arent the original stones. They're too uniform and new to be the originals. More likely the original markers were too broken, worn or simply missing, to get the right information from them.
And if the records for the school are missing or incomplete, that information is probably lost to time.
Over the time that the school was open, hundreds of the students died mainly from infectious diseases. Most were claimed by their families and returned home for burial. The 186 remaining at the school mostly died from tuberculosis.
The school closed because the US War Department needed the building back. Carlisle was a barracks prior to the opening of the school.
As for respect, dont believe everything negative you hear. Dig deeper. The man who founded the school was an Army officer who had spent a lot of time working with the Native Americans. When he died, after the school closed, he was buried at Arlington. His former native students at the school raised the money and had his marker dedicated from themselves. They were apparently very fond of him and called him "Father"
Jim Torpe thats interesting because we had schools here set up by the tribes
How is there grave markers marked unknown? A sad reminder of how native Americans were and are treated.
America, and almost all other countries, have horrible history of killing. If you were “different” in any way, whether it was color, gender, how your eyes were set, your nose, and of course religion belief, was just an excuse to isolate, or even kill. You are right, we have to learn from history to not duplicate. Nice tribute, and your right, they all had loved ones.
History,good and bad is there and we should learn from it. That's why those trying to rewrite history are so wrong.
The problem is our schools don't teach American History good or bad....Soon we will loose all our history. be well.
Where did you go to school?
I learned this in public school.
@Mary H so your whole public education(K-12) was just one book ?
That’s it?
So true..........
@Mary H so your saying the college you went to didn’t teach history classes?
I’m over 50 myself and I took so many different history classes in College.
I really like this kind of video. Unfortunately, the history of this place will only be what we have been allowed to hear. If the children/people buried there could speak I'm sure they would tell a different tale.
Great video!
Canada did the same thing a lot of native Americans fled Canada to the USA to flee the schools and to find employment and freedom both of my grandmother fled Canada to escape the schools so there children win not suffer the schools
M ost have no age or year of birth. Were most children?
A lot of colonization unfortunately. My grandmother was full blooded Cochimí a tribe from the Baja California region and there is absolutely nothing left of the culture, traditions and language because of assimilation into the Spanish culture and Catholic religion. The boarding schools went on well into the 20th century, but the United States turned a blind eye to it. There are still living relatives that remember the horror of being taken from their parents into these so called "schools".
Oh yes history is important if we are not to repeat the bad things here in Australia same things happened Aborigines call it the stolen generations
Pennsylvania is a great state but so much dark history here it's sad
how come so many died so young?? whats all that about?? forced names horrible
I wondered the same thing. Seems like a lot of deaths in a school that wasn't open that long. Children are usually sturdy and healthy
@@mmmm-gr7xr This is before vaccinations, children died often, it is not so hard to imagine medical care was absent and the abuse they suffered.
I understand. I suppose one rampant infectious disease could have filled the graveyard. Thanks for your thoughts.
When you take over another persons land and try to make them like what you want then NO America is not the only one as the English ( united for now Britain) is very much to blame as America is there becuase of them and many other countrys but now we should move forward
You haven't said it was illegal for us to speak our language United States government wasn't having that
I had shared this with a few "native American ppl ik... please resort to using native American than the word indian... cuz I ndian makes some angry ..... like racial words anger other races.. remember. Use native American instead of indian