I think you’re underrating warlock a lot. His utility is very useful and his damage while not amazing is still solid. At r3, he’s even solid in bgs and has won me so many rounds. He’s so versatile and fun to use, making him a must have across all progression levels.
I agree. I would also mention that as 7* with crit focus he does a lot of damage with his highest crit damage. I would for sure rate him 2 tiers above starky, who has only damage and a power drain on heavy once a few minutes...
Lags I respect all of your opinions but there’s no way u can put Idoom with visions, doc oc, dark hawk, star lord, etc. in the same tier bro. Idoom is not bad. He just takes a while to ramp. Medium - heavy cancel sp3, medium - heavy cancel sp1, then spam sp2s. He deserves S tier at the bare minimum. If u wanna make the argument for BGs, then ok the champs I listed before are not beating him in BGs. I’ve never once argued with any of ur choices for champs in tier lists but this is the FIRST. I can agree with the punisher 2099. I used to think p2099 was ass then I took his 7* to r3 lmfao. Dude puts in work. Especially against domino weirdly.
@@wideyeoman1018100%. It’s actually crazy how much there is. Like yeah he was over hyped but he’s never been bad. I want the 7* so bad. I wouldn’t even mind a b2b pull of him in a titan.
Viv needs to be in S. You could argue S plus when she becomes a 7*. A super versatile attackers that is a very solid defender. Also a lot of utility. She cant take the meta defenders but shes good for almost everyone else.
@@Lagacy Did he get buffed shortly after his release? Because I swear I saw a couple of videos like 4 or 5 years ago about how broken he was. Maybe my memories are modified by my love for him tho😆
@@Lagacy except everybody also said he's the greatest utility champ on release. Covered endless bases, still does. I remember that time, and truth be told after an L2 his damage is super solid for any content across the board besides marathon content. All you really do is cycle L2's anyway. His crit dmg % is still absurdly high. People also said doom was bad on release, what happened then? Lmao
as a person whos favourite class is tech i can clearly see since forever that you hate this class anyhow always happy to watch your vids, happy new year
He said right at the beginning that this one was purely his own opinion, and not reflective of the community. I don't really know how he can have Vision AoU above OG Vision, but OG vision has crazy good power control, and at a reasonable sig level has awesome power gain. If you can play reasonably well, your opponent will never throw a special, like ever.
Thing I like about Sentinel: heavy spam at three bars seems to be just as fast as sp2 spam which is nice depending on defender immunities. Mixing them together is definitely the most fun tho.
For me Penny Parker and Omega Sentinel are SS or more. Both do so much for me. Great defenders and both hit hard. OS has a looot of utilities. Regen, drain with synergy, plasma, autoblock, armor, double immunity, and other good synergies. Penny almost the same, her 2nd is a nuke, but lacks armor up and should be bleed immune too. But her autoblock with damage is annoying.
My r3 hulkbuster is an absolute beast. He’s a tank plus love his power control and huge damage and regen on every fight not just once per quest like Ironman. Highly recommend especially when you master his rotation.
I think you missed it on Iron Heart. She’s so good for war. Immunities, tracking, reverse control immunity, the ability to user her pre-fight to switch between incinerate (energy) and rupture (physical) damage, and she can eat prowess. Oh and her damage is more than solid. I think the only way you can rank her below Ultron is if you value BGs more.
Just looked at my store and I got the catalyst deal that was in the other vid. It caps at 99 and I didn’t spend in banquet does anyone know if it’s a bug ?
When Nimrod 1st launched I felt he could be better. Various immunities being one of them. Plasma wasn’t such a big thing so I wasn’t thinking that, but I was thinking another dot. The issue is too op makes it harder for the contest to grow and means when the solution arrives it might be a bit of a prickly one. I do understand we can’t have a 1:1 in the comics and don’t believe we necessarily should, but I do want to see some accuracy as far as power level goes.
I like this tier list it’s a great idea the only thing I’d like to comment on is I think your sleeping on rocket a little bit I think he deserves top of A at least he’s really good does well against all of the mutants besides Domino I know your disclaimer at the start of the video I just I have to say something
Nice to see the duck up there. Definitely belongs. I might put Shocker up to tip top because he’s a huge threat on D. And Viv up one. As others have said the Kang synergy with Apoc is great enough he should be up a few. Because that power drain is amazing.
Sentinel should be SS. I have a r3 awakened 7 star and he's one of the best champs I've used. Has utility hits hard as a truck. Can get a full revive off the Sp3 then your locked into sp2s that do so much work
I have him r3 too. He will definitely get more respect as people get to know him. He’s the complete tech package imo. I’d put him right after starky in this chart.
@jerryharder3399 yea once he gets to those 100 charges it's game over. I feel like with all the new buffs to champs and the decent list of new champs they have released he's slightly overlooked.
@@zachhauth366 I have rank 3 as well and my only problems with him is that: most mutants punish shock and incinerate and he doesn't benefit from willpower. If he applied plasma to mutants only then he would be the most busted tech.
@kickass2117 you make a great point. He isn't a good matchup for some Mutants. But he does so well vs most of the Champions in game. Even with out the incinerates at 100 charges he hits so hard.
Amazing video. The entire class rated in a comprehensive guide that’s easy to follow and digest. And I agree with everything except iDoom. He’s better than Vision man 😢
Ik not alot of people have 7star ultron but u gotta put more respect on that name brother his utiltys really good especially awakened an he does sooo much damage against mutants especially hes the most underrated tech champ bar NON!
i feel like iron heart should be atleast up at s+ if not, higher up on s, having her at rank 6 she’s probably one of my most used champs w her easy damage and miss counter plus the reverse control immunity and parrying non contacts, she can counter most of the mutant class including onslaught quite well esp cus she can switch between incinerate and rupture, deffo one of the most underrated champs
Really really good list Lags thank u so so much the only places I would probably disagree is prob the 2 Visions I’d probably just drop them 1 tier & I’d put shocker in the SS tier & I would definitely switch Iron Man and omega sentinel around but love your opinion and all the experience u have in game so again thank you
I recently got the game for my younger bro, and it happens to be that I play it more now, so all I wanna ask is, as a new player, you guys keep talking about a good defender and a good attacker. I get how it works. I am in Act 4 btw just reached it, and I just want to know if the top of the tier list will perform even for progression, right? because I have a few 5 starts to pick from to lvl up. ( lady deathstike, plower and starlord )
You guys that are arguing about his list need to understand that it’s the rating for the tech champs compared to other tech champs and not the game as a whole
Lots of A tier tech champs, does that mean the class is improving? I would love to see that Ultron get buffed, please do him justice from the comics. Who is better, Nimrod or Sentinel?
Dude when was the last time you used shuri? 😂😂 and, jack o kills mutants faster and better than nimrod, but hes a 7str so, only if nimrod had plasma he woild be in ss prob... I also saw this in the last vid, its how unbiased these stuff are, everything is agreeable. Good job.🎉
I’m Preying One Day We Either A Get A MCU KANG Or B Give The Current KANG A Bad @$$ Rework & Buff As Someone Who Loves KANG He Can Ofc Be A Lot Better I Would Give Him A Move-set Similar To Punisher 2099 That Would Be Bad @$$ Bro! And My Favorite 2 Tech Champs In The Game Rn Are 💯 PROWLER & JACK O LANTERN There Both Amazing Brooo…!!!🔥🔥🔥
Lagacy tiers should get renamed ss=bg menace, s+=god in one caterogy or good in both , s=are best at something , A =decent but lacks something, b=mid ,c= bad but usefull, d=shit but they do something ,e= shit all the way
Stop adding more tiers. Readjust what the lower tiers should look like. For instance, your B, C, and D tiers really should be pushed down into the F tier and your A and S should be pushed down to A through D. Your S+ and SS should be your S tier. If you're going to do rankings, be ruthless not generous. Otherwise, good video!
I know it’s Lagacy’s list, but the amount of personal bias in this list and the skill one is just so icky. Visions in A tier, putting IDoom anywhere lower than S. Starlord in A is wild, IMIW over IDoom, and Viv being worse than doc oc, starlord, and nebula?
No love for Warlock and Shuri overrated also Ghost isn’t that great without synergies, I got Prowler at R3 and I think is better than Antman 6* I suppose Sentinel got a buff otherwise don’t get it that high
I swear lags hates idoom as much as Kendrick Lamar hates drake😂
I know right 😂 👍
Agree 100%. Also in what life would someone take vision over him? Its ridiculous
I hate idoom also
@vitopancur1208 That’s the exact reason I wrote this comment
I hate him so much as well 👎
I think you’re underrating warlock a lot. His utility is very useful and his damage while not amazing is still solid. At r3, he’s even solid in bgs and has won me so many rounds. He’s so versatile and fun to use, making him a must have across all progression levels.
Yeah he’s basically Jack of all trades. Probably the most utility of any champ.
Definitely in this economy I’d put him over ghost 6*s useless
I agree. I would also mention that as 7* with crit focus he does a lot of damage with his highest crit damage. I would for sure rate him 2 tiers above starky, who has only damage and a power drain on heavy once a few minutes...
That passive heal block will always be useful.
Lags I respect all of your opinions but there’s no way u can put Idoom with visions, doc oc, dark hawk, star lord, etc. in the same tier bro. Idoom is not bad. He just takes a while to ramp. Medium - heavy cancel sp3, medium - heavy cancel sp1, then spam sp2s. He deserves S tier at the bare minimum. If u wanna make the argument for BGs, then ok the champs I listed before are not beating him in BGs. I’ve never once argued with any of ur choices for champs in tier lists but this is the FIRST. I can agree with the punisher 2099. I used to think p2099 was ass then I took his 7* to r3 lmfao. Dude puts in work. Especially against domino weirdly.
I agree, Idoom hate is getting out of hand
@@wideyeoman1018100%. It’s actually crazy how much there is. Like yeah he was over hyped but he’s never been bad. I want the 7* so bad. I wouldn’t even mind a b2b pull of him in a titan.
Pull him from a titan, took him to r2 and boi he is ass😂
Actually I can put him anywhere I want bro is mid 🗿
@@Jux420 highly disagree. Is he the best? No he’s far from it. He’s not ass though.
Bro hates Deathless Vision so much he left him off completely
Facts😂😂😂
Viv needs to be in S. You could argue S plus when she becomes a 7*. A super versatile attackers that is a very solid defender. Also a lot of utility. She cant take the meta defenders but shes good for almost everyone else.
Great setup but imo you need more context on why you are putting each champ in their tier
Warlock. Aged like a fine wine
I swear I remember him being one of the absolutely best champ when he came out.
@@adampospisil3447when he came out everyone called him a noodle lol
@@Lagacy as a 7* with stat focus on crit and his high crit damage he is not noodly anymore
@@Lagacy Did he get buffed shortly after his release? Because I swear I saw a couple of videos like 4 or 5 years ago about how broken he was. Maybe my memories are modified by my love for him tho😆
@@Lagacy except everybody also said he's the greatest utility champ on release. Covered endless bases, still does. I remember that time, and truth be told after an L2 his damage is super solid for any content across the board besides marathon content. All you really do is cycle L2's anyway. His crit dmg % is still absurdly high. People also said doom was bad on release, what happened then? Lmao
Highly underrating Viv Vision
Came here to say this
as a person whos favourite class is tech i can clearly see since forever that you hate this class
anyhow always happy to watch your vids, happy new year
Tell me about it, I’m halfway through and the fact he put HTD higher than Ironheart is sacrilege 😭😭
@@NickHarding26HTD is goated especially the 7* but I will admit that ironheart has more utility
@Doggo-l8b oh yeah I’m not saying HTD isn’t worthy, he’s far better than he was that’s for sure like you said IH is just that tad better with utility
There are some biases here ngl. Like seriously the visions over idoom and rocket? Bro forget vision has 0 damage?
It’s his own tier list. Go make your own video. Oh wait. Nobody cares 🤦♂️
He said right at the beginning that this one was purely his own opinion, and not reflective of the community. I don't really know how he can have Vision AoU above OG Vision, but OG vision has crazy good power control, and at a reasonable sig level has awesome power gain. If you can play reasonably well, your opponent will never throw a special, like ever.
Personally I think ghost shouldn’t be that high, her damage now is outshined by loads of 7 star r3 techs like guardian and shocker.
For real. Nobody uses ghost anymore. She should be behind everyone in the top 3 tiers of this list imo. All see more use and are more valuable.
I still use her a lot. She is really good (I run recoil everywhere except Battlegrounds)
@@abedijkstra03 almost everyone does that becuase recoils don’t really hurt u outside of BGs depending on meta.
I don't think he's looking at if the champ is a 7* or not in this list
this should be done live , a live stream where you discuss a bit with chat and ppl are hyped about thier fav champ to be placed
Thing I like about Sentinel: heavy spam at three bars seems to be just as fast as sp2 spam which is nice depending on defender immunities. Mixing them together is definitely the most fun tho.
I feel like you need to revisit omega sentinel. As a 7* rank 3 her damage is almost unrivaled
Kang with with the apocalyps synergy is actualy pretty good. I got him r3 just for fun!
One of the only things I disagree with is LDS. She should be at least S tier!
For me Penny Parker and Omega Sentinel are SS or more. Both do so much for me. Great defenders and both hit hard. OS has a looot of utilities. Regen, drain with synergy, plasma, autoblock, armor, double immunity, and other good synergies. Penny almost the same, her 2nd is a nuke, but lacks armor up and should be bleed immune too. But her autoblock with damage is annoying.
“Jack is what Green Goblin could be” wait till you find out why Jack O’Lantern has all the gear and weapons he does in the comics
My r3 hulkbuster is an absolute beast. He’s a tank plus love his power control and huge damage and regen on every fight not just once per quest like Ironman. Highly recommend especially when you master his rotation.
I think you missed it on Iron Heart. She’s so good for war. Immunities, tracking, reverse control immunity, the ability to user her pre-fight to switch between incinerate (energy) and rupture (physical) damage, and she can eat prowess. Oh and her damage is more than solid. I think the only way you can rank her below Ultron is if you value BGs more.
Finally some Darkhawk respect I’ve had him at R5A for about 7 months and he is great still in my BGs deck over a bunch of other tech champs
I've had a sig 200 silver centurion for years he's underrated. Putting dark hawk, doc oc and star lord above him is ludicrous 😂 great video lags.
Just looked at my store and I got the catalyst deal that was in the other vid. It caps at 99 and I didn’t spend in banquet does anyone know if it’s a bug ?
Not a bug. Real offer for 3 days only.
Warlock is an absolute G , he carried me so much through the story content. I love that character
When Nimrod 1st launched I felt he could be better. Various immunities being one of them. Plasma wasn’t such a big thing so I wasn’t thinking that, but I was thinking another dot. The issue is too op makes it harder for the contest to grow and means when the solution arrives it might be a bit of a prickly one. I do understand we can’t have a 1:1 in the comics and don’t believe we necessarily should, but I do want to see some accuracy as far as power level goes.
You know I thought I had trash opinions but after seeing your tier list videos I think I have the best takes in the world
WHAT!! there is no way the visions are A tier, they should be D or C tier minimum 😮😮
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@markornjak3169 and putting idoom at the same level as visions is mental
@@Mukendibutolofredderick-bf6rl yeah. I really like his tier lists usually but this one is horrendous imo
Yeah, did he forget to they have no damage?
If u play properly with them they can be B tier imo
i have to say as a proud owner of sig 200 7* sentinel that i think u are underating i would say top 3 tech atleast
Lags need to show my guy OG iron man some love he's OP. he needs that SS
I like this tier list it’s a great idea the only thing I’d like to comment on is I think your sleeping on rocket a little bit I think he deserves top of A at least he’s really good does well against all of the mutants besides Domino I know your disclaimer at the start of the video I just I have to say something
Not to mention putting idoom under the visions xdd
I know this is your list but I just wanted to suggest checking out Viv Vision and Lady D again. I believe they should be S tier
just got shuri as my first 7* and she almost surpassed my max stark spider immediately
Nice to see the duck up there. Definitely belongs. I might put Shocker up to tip top because he’s a huge threat on D.
And Viv up one. As others have said the Kang synergy with Apoc is great enough he should be up a few. Because that power drain is amazing.
Sentinel should be SS. I have a r3 awakened 7 star and he's one of the best champs I've used. Has utility hits hard as a truck. Can get a full revive off the Sp3 then your locked into sp2s that do so much work
I have him r3 too. He will definitely get more respect as people get to know him. He’s the complete tech package imo. I’d put him right after starky in this chart.
@jerryharder3399 yea once he gets to those 100 charges it's game over. I feel like with all the new buffs to champs and the decent list of new champs they have released he's slightly overlooked.
@@zachhauth366 I have rank 3 as well and my only problems with him is that: most mutants punish shock and incinerate and he doesn't benefit from willpower. If he applied plasma to mutants only then he would be the most busted tech.
@kickass2117 you make a great point. He isn't a good matchup for some Mutants. But he does so well vs most of the Champions in game. Even with out the incinerates at 100 charges he hits so hard.
I love Viv Vision I use her all the time I think she is insanely underrated
Lags I would like to know your reasoning on Viv being that low she takes fights fast as the rest of the techs even onslaught
Amazing video. The entire class rated in a comprehensive guide that’s easy to follow and digest.
And I agree with everything except iDoom. He’s better than Vision man 😢
Ironheart lowk suuuuper underrated imo... puts out some crazy numbers w sp2
Ik not alot of people have 7star ultron but u gotta put more respect on that name brother his utiltys really good especially awakened an he does sooo much damage against mutants especially hes the most underrated tech champ bar NON!
i feel like iron heart should be atleast up at s+ if not, higher up on s, having her at rank 6 she’s probably one of my most used champs w her easy damage and miss counter plus the reverse control immunity and parrying non contacts, she can counter most of the mutant class including onslaught quite well esp cus she can switch between incinerate and rupture, deffo one of the most underrated champs
So you’re telling me if you’re making a top ten in tech; Shocker, Guardian And Warlock are on the outside looking in?
Really really good list Lags thank u so so much the only places I would probably disagree is prob the 2 Visions I’d probably just drop them 1 tier & I’d put shocker in the SS tier & I would definitely switch Iron Man and omega sentinel around but love your opinion and all the experience u have in game so again thank you
Will you be doing a tier list of all the classes together at the end?
Ultron prime might be my favourite champion of all time
I don't believe Shuri can parry non contact attacks my dude, unless it is a synergy or something I'm not aware of.
I believe it's her awakened ability. One down side to me getting her as 7 star
@bdeezy1794 she can't do it period. I think he just meant she has non contact hits. Her awakened ability allows her to block unblockable specials.
@LelandYarnell i knew that and I guess I read the op wrong. Idk what I was thinking
Did I miss something where Ultron was on the same level as WarMachine and Silver Cen?
MORE PLS HAHA !! LOVE THIS TYPE OF CONTENT
Last D deserves to go up a tier.
I like when u talk about each champs just a little bit
I have my silver centurion maxed sig and maxed 5* and his shock and heal block and plasma is insane
I personally wouldn’t put shuri over guillotine 99 because If they lmmune to shock shuri can’t do nothing but guillotine always does damage
I'm more excited for the mutant as I feel they are the best class and the most fun class in the game
This is my third day waiting for the next video for the other classes😭😭😭
I recently got the game for my younger bro, and it happens to be that I play it more now, so all I wanna ask is, as a new player, you guys keep talking about a good defender and a good attacker. I get how it works. I am in Act 4 btw just reached it, and I just want to know if the top of the tier list will perform even for progression, right? because I have a few 5 starts to pick from to lvl up. ( lady deathstike, plower and starlord )
Rank up Lady D and prowler and remember at Act for rank up whoever you got and finish the story that’s more important 🤝🥂
You guys that are arguing about his list need to understand that it’s the rating for the tech champs compared to other tech champs and not the game as a whole
Sentinel is SS Tier Solid Tank Easy to Play SP3 can Fully Restore Your Health And He Had His Own Relic
A Tier DARKHAWK??? LETS GOOOO!!!!! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
bro did not put idoom and viv in the same tier as vision 😭but i realize it is ur opinion and respect that✊
Omega sentinel should be right next to warlock in S+. Otherwise it’s a near perfect
List and value your opinions!
Fams sig ability should counter xforce dp shbleed but it doesn't, it's basically the same thing as galans harvesr
As much as I love Starky, he’s S+ at most. SS should have atleast a decent defensive abilities.
he is decent on D
É verdade que o predador está chegando no MTC?
anyone have the juggernaut bug where he does hulk sp2 with zero damage
If this ain't a nightmare fuel, I don't know what is :D
hello...prowler needs to be awakened???
Lots of A tier tech champs, does that mean the class is improving?
I would love to see that Ultron get buffed, please do him justice from the comics.
Who is better, Nimrod or Sentinel?
50% of champs in his A tier are so shit
FAM as a 7 star would be amazing
Idoom is A tier ?
This definitely a list bro
no kidding
Dude when was the last time you used shuri? 😂😂 and, jack o kills mutants faster and better than nimrod, but hes a 7str so, only if nimrod had plasma he woild be in ss prob...
I also saw this in the last vid, its how unbiased these stuff are, everything is agreeable. Good job.🎉
P2099 deserves top spot also, he does onslaught photon and bull and domino under 40 sec
I did so many with him, deserves tech awaken also
@@weedman12345is he decent for Attuma aswell, I’ve seen fast take downs with him some games
@@weedman12345 P2099 is so underrated bro
I’m Preying One Day We Either A Get A MCU KANG Or B Give The Current KANG A Bad @$$ Rework & Buff As Someone Who Loves KANG He Can Ofc Be A Lot Better I Would Give Him A Move-set Similar To Punisher 2099 That Would Be Bad @$$ Bro!
And My Favorite 2 Tech Champs In The Game Rn Are 💯 PROWLER & JACK O LANTERN There Both Amazing Brooo…!!!🔥🔥🔥
psychoman should be ss tier since hes a hard fight for you in necro
Mystic tier list with Current Juggernaut on it next please😂.
Love spidey, huge fan but 1000% he is in SS based on bias 😂
Lagacy tiers should get renamed ss=bg menace,
s+=god in one caterogy or good in both
, s=are best at something
, A =decent but lacks something,
b=mid
,c= bad but usefull,
d=shit but they do something
,e= shit all the way
Psycho man needs a buff bad
Kang with Apoc is far from garbage
Stark spider bias is crazy the build up murders him
Skill issue
I was watching this. I got a six star ghost out of my Nexus.
Stop adding more tiers. Readjust what the lower tiers should look like. For instance, your B, C, and D tiers really should be pushed down into the F tier and your A and S should be pushed down to A through D. Your S+ and SS should be your S tier. If you're going to do rankings, be ruthless not generous. Otherwise, good video!
Very real
🤝🥂agreed
The disrespect for IDoom is CRAZZZZZZY
If my goat shocker isn’t on here
Vulture anywhere other than the very top is objectively incorrect. Vulture is easily the best tech (or at least better than idoom) 💯
Why the Idoom hate 😭😭😭I actually can’t believe lags put Ironman above him
Lowkey guardian in the top tier
make ranking with mystic champs pls
I know it’s Lagacy’s list, but the amount of personal bias in this list and the skill one is just so icky. Visions in A tier, putting IDoom anywhere lower than S. Starlord in A is wild, IMIW over IDoom, and Viv being worse than doc oc, starlord, and nebula?
Ok he moved starlord behind Idoom, so atleast that’s fixed, but still shouldn’t be in A imo
Bruh i love how much i agree with idooms placement dude is so mid a waste if a titan imo for me 😂😂
star lprd over idoom is crazy
Bro what!!!!!????? No way you have viv vision and lady death strike idoom IN THE SAME CLASS AS DOC OCTOPUS BRO THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE DUDE
Viv vision should be S tier
Great video
Idoom and vision in same tier😂😂
Omega sentinel is definitely ss tier
I guess its time to R3 Red Skull. 😂
*Babe shut up Lags just dropped*
Prowler S+
Shocker SS
Viv S
Arcade S+
No love for Warlock and Shuri overrated also Ghost isn’t that great without synergies, I got Prowler at R3 and I think is better than Antman 6* I suppose Sentinel got a buff otherwise don’t get it that high
Starting off with the worst two 7* classes