Sharing an excellent comment from a Malaysian TH-camr: I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported. They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor. They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US. They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US. When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices: 1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists. 2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes. China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky. During the pandemic, When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman. When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers. When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated. Western Media always have reasons to bash China. Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good. Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world. They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars? When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down. The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad. China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world. I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
Congratulations to bladders Tzi for your efforts in writing this long but very informative comments. It gives the readers a very comprehensive historical report. Thank you
@Teeny Tiny The original group of CCP were uneducated to little educated some what at best. Their philosophy carry on to present days. Of course there are many details about it.
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。 It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it. There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does. But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies. For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now? China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。 Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
Chinese have the old fashion view of civilized meaning non-violence, which is opposed to the modern western understanding of civilized. "Civilizing Torture: An American Tradition" by W. Fitzhugh Brundage 2018
@47:01, US-China peaceful coexistence lasted 44 years. Cold War lasted 42 years. The current anti-China campaign by the USA will last no further than 2030 for the simple reason that the USD would have imploded and thereby losing its world reserve currency status.
I would say that US will implode by 2025 after the 2024 Presidential elections when neither side will concede defeat. Republicans are laying the ground work for this conflict now by installing partisans into State institutions that will either change or ignore laws to guarantee indefinite power by a small minority of radicals. It will look like Germany in the 1930's preceding Hitler's authoritarian coup.
@35:24, Martin failed to see the one-two-three punch that exposed the hubris of the US government. The 2008 Financial Crisis placed the world on notice that USA no longer had the competence to lead the world’s finance. The mismanagement of the Covid-19 pandemic in the USA proved to the world that the US government is impotent. The US trade war against China has backfired as US trade deficit with China increased even as the lethargic US economy stagnate or declines.
USA had yesterday the audacity to ask China to stop buying petrol from Iran. USA has not yet learnt to treat with people. They also haven't learn that sanction do not work with civilization states. Both Iran and China have been through everything multiple times. They know pain and are patient enough to handle all of them.
@15:22, if China’s economy were twice the size of US economy by 2030, then the USD will no longer be the world reserve currency afterward. The repercussions on the USA would be severe: lower standard of living; political instability; loss of international influence and hegemony.
It has been planned. The global capitalist at WEF is planning for the global reserve currency to be manage by the IMF with the creation of CBDC based on eSDR.
@@jh85075 Not quite. It will still be able, in combination with its allies and protégés, to sanction and embargo countries, just not China (and possibly Russia and India). At least not effectively. This will especially be the case if China supports such actions or does nothing to stop them, as for instance by not using its veto at the UN. China doesn't seem to really care what the USA does to other countries as long as it doesn't directly or immediately impinge on its own interests.
To Mr. Ken Shen’s point about 70% of Chinese with assets over 100K wishing to send the money overseas, I think you asked the same question to Taiwanese, you would get a similar percentage of Taiwanese responding the same way. A vast majority of the Taiwanese rich people and politicians have their children or close relatives overseas. Same with Indians. Don’t try make this as a political issue!
When was this static made? Of course it would make sense to move for economic reasons especially earlier when China was just starting to develop. He obviously believes all the msm or Falun Gong negative reporting.
The organizer was fortunate and honoured to have Prof. Martin who, as always, has great insights on world views in the most professional and impartial manner. Wish the West have their ears on his thought-provoking and pragmatic views and acts accordingly, and the world will become a place for everyone including the West. Thanks Prof. for your invaluable insights.
Thank you Mr. Jacques for your acute observations. As a fellow Brit who has been fortunate enough to have called China my home since 2008, I have seen first hand what an incredible job the government here has done. I will forever be grateful to the Chinese government and the front line healthcare professionals for keeping me and my family safe from COVID. The government here truly serves the people and I am happy to go on record in saying that President Xi Jinping is the greatest political mind since the late great Lee Kuan Yew. Contrary to the narrative spun by Western leaders and Western media, the government here is truly well-intentioned in everything that it does and is making all the right moves. China is a safe country and a wonderful place to raise my daughter, and we now enjoy the best infrastructure in the World, bar none.
I've lived in China since 2006 and I absolutely agree. If you admire President Xi as I do, you might like to read the 3 Vols, Xi Jinping The Governance of China.
I am from singapore.. =) Anyway, chinese civilization had many great emperors and we still remember them till this day. Not everything was good, or perfect but we can let histroy judge
Why the tech war? It's because America can see the writing on the wall, there is a brain drain happening here in America, starting about a decade ago. Right now signs are a little hard to see, but as every 5 year passes the more this brain drain will become more visible. Meaning right now we are living off of the past R&D which will only last another 20 or so years. Not saying the country will fall of the cliff but it will be like the rest of Europe where innovations doesn't come thick and fast like in the US starting in the mid-70's to the last decade.
There is Chinese great maxim: 故國雖大, 好戰必亡; 天下雖安, 忘戰必危. or: "Big country would be self destructive when become too belligerent. Country that's oblivious to a threat of war may be endangered itself" In the past 20 years or longer than that, there were numerous tensed disputes over the East Sea (as Vietnam calls it) or South China Sea as the AUKUS & QUAD & others call it. Ships even dangerously rammed at each other among most the claimants. However, All of these Asian countries managed really well, NONE fired a single bullet at one another. This proved that despite mighty China Naval overwhelmingly out gun other Asian forces but China has been NOT Belligerent or Aggressive as the AUKUS awkwardly disinformation. Further more, China increase its Defense Budget proportionally to its GDP Growth. Thus, after the Century of Humiliation at the hands of the West & Japanese, especially, since 1949 the PLA has never been oblivious to threats of war or rather the West has kept the PLA being alerted all time. Therefore China balance very well between 故國雖大, 好戰必亡; 天下雖安, 忘戰必危. One stark difference between China & the US/UK is that Chinese people are generally optimistic of their future wellbeing, live in more harmony & trust their government. While more & more people especially the youngsters in the US/UK are skeptical of their future: Student Debt, Housing affordability & employment. The expression "This generation is worse than their parents' & grand parents" In the West, they don't trust their "democratically" elected governments. These trends in 2 worlds have persisted over 2 decades & continuing so.
South China Sea is and was belong to China and China right to defend as were written in Histories, not by US or UK to interfere nor right of sailing excuses to split among Asia society or Asian Countries.
1981 was the year when they returned to a 1920s timeline called Reaganomics that has led to the current Plutocratic (meaning rule by the 1%, of the 1%, for the 1%) Super Fascism (where the corporations run the govt). They call this Democracy and try to push it on the rest of the World. By the change to personal greed, the US has become self-indulgent, narcissistic, decadent and paranoid with an underlying inferiority complex. It is no longer a cohesive nation and has created a limit on its performance and growth. Dragging other countries down to their level, rather than raising themselves up.
I visited Chyna in 2004. Almost couldn’t believe what I observed there! The people are diverse economically, but the vast majority appear to be “happy” (if that’s a real thing), living their lives in an intentional and meaningful manner. They individually have their hopes and dreams, their family structures are internalised and well adjusted, they are very respectful and work damned hard with purpose. And the persons I spent time with enjoy a good time sharing their experiences.
The unfortunate thing in Msia is that ppl r sensitive to the word communism. With it China has produce gd results n the world shld accept n adopt some of its sys. Democracy is not superior, meritocracy is. N Asean shld work strongly together n ward off a possible Asia Spring here. N also aim to implement like China for common prosperity to its ppl in Asean countries too cos. capitalism is imperfect.
I am a Malaysian who have lived in China since 1998. It’s rare that someone from a capitalist world sees the problems with capitalism and democracy, I am glad you do.
It's true. A lot of Malaysians including the Malaysian Chinese still have the misconception of communism. This misconception derived from many of the Hollywood movies portraying the downside of communism in N.Korea, Soviet Union, Vietnam and etc. For many years, we thought democracy is the 'only' system that works for any country in the world because the US military are always portrayed as the heroes spearheading the liberation of people in communist countries. But heck, look at our democracy...it's fake democracy, blatantly put it out to us second class citizens(non-muslim) with open discrimination and racism. When reality sets in, we found out that setting up backdoor government is not illegal. A joke, to be honest. Democracy with the element of capitalism sets up many loop holes in the system, it's just a matter of how big the problem the system creates before it pops. We see court judges easily bought over with money, lawyers bribed, financial institutions get away with fines(and no one is held accountable to the mess they created in the economy). Rich people in power will always get away with crimes in democratic countries. Loop holes only rich and cunning people can manipulate for their advantages. People are still ignorant with facts of life. many people who takes on information the mainstream media disseminates still believe communism is an evil thing yet they fail to research and understand how the rise of China is not 100% attributed by communist elements, but socialism with Chinese characteristics. And Chinese characteristic can be found in history text...if people start looking into it. So, the misconception still lives on...because people are ignorant with historical facts and conveniently consume falsehoods that are constantly bombarded by the western media
@@jonboy82 all the successful democracy has socialism fundamental, like Northern Europe. Liberal democracy is just a way for the rich to divide and rule.
China can give 2 years paid leave to mothers, allow them to work from home, provide state sponsored early childhood, paid childcare and provide free health care , schooling etc. and praise women with more children socially as they are doing a duty to the country.
@James Cooper US allows women to have children and pays for maternity leave and has good social welfare for kids. China had a one child policy and has useless social welfare. China sends astronauts to Mars but still has 600 million Chinese earning $140 a MONTH.
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。 It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it. There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does. But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies. For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now? China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。 Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
The man at 1:40:00 sees too much western. It is not true his stereotype about western system superiority. Truth is most Chinese recognise and accept the priority of the society over individual freedom. 有国才有家。
He sounds like a western troll; probably benefitted from exploitative capitalism so he'd sings to the tune of unhappiness in China and China is bad Still drinking the Western kool Aid China recognizes that it has problems, but it is working hard fixing them; unlike Western societies that just give you the illusion of choice, but in reality, you're being exploited and the government isn't acting for people's interest but that of businesses who provide election funds
China does not want to be the Ruler of the world, It just wants to be treated equal n respected,just the way they treat the others. Confucius said "Don't treat others the way if you yourself don't want to be treated that way"
In Marathons, the majority of runners (aka countries) practice and work hard to achieve and improve their personal performance, while a few other runners (very few) instead of try to self-improve, would instead ruthlessly and try hard (mostly illegally) to place impediments and obstacles in the way of the frontrunner, in hope of illegitimately "winning" the Marathon race.
Do you remember Lance Armstrong? He dragged others into his plot to make himself the Tour de France winner for seven years... do we see any similarities between the US government and this individual? Is winning at all cost the most important thing in life? Really sad.
Another lovely talk by Martin Jacques with a clear and honest appraisal of the USA and China. I do feel that he made an error when he stated that the Covid-19 originated in China, he should have stated that the pandemic was discovered in China, the best evidence strongly suggests that Sars Cov 2 originated from an ancestor virus which does not exist in East Asia. There is good evidence that this virus may have originated in either America or Europe. Martin Jacques also had a problem recalling the "Hainan Island Incident", here is the excerpt from Wikipedia "The Hainan Island incident occurred on April 1, 2001, when a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals intelligence aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet collided in mid-air, resulting in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China (PRC). A collision between the EP-3 and one of the J-8s caused a PRC pilot to go missing (later presumed dead), and the EP-3 was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan."
There is a big negative effect of having a reserve currency that is being printed in the manner of the USD....the dreaded dutch disease. Like the free gold that spain acquired from their american empire, the free printed dollars of the US Fed has created, in my opinion, has a similar effect on US industry. Inflation and the high price of the currency has lead to a similar displacement of domestic industries overseas. Even if there was no China, it would have gone to other countries..
Actually, as someone who’s British and has been working in a British university in China for almost 13 years now I’ve noticed that many of China’s greatest critics are other Chinese from Malaysia, Singapore and other southeast Asian countries. I was quite surprised by this initially but I suspect it comes from emigrated Chinese who had to leave and have never forgiven their motherland for the hardships they endured.
I agree what he says on Uyghurs .The whole genocide thing is total rubbish, nothing but propaganda. I had studied the subject years ago. What basically China is trying to do is to channelise the radical elements among Muslims to something productive like learning a new language, technical skills etc.They are very smart and think way ahead. They have seen the geo politics of Iraq, Libya and Syria very well and they don't want a similar situation in Xinjiang.
This is an excellent discussion as of the past ones with professor Martin Jacques ! He's so knowledgeable on the subject. It's a pity the sound system from professor's end was very weak , but it's definitely worth the while to strain to hear him out . Certain parts were inaudible though. Many thanks to all of you great guys ! Looking forward to hearing from all of you again.!
@1:05:06, the Chinese interceptor plane fatally collided with the US spy plane, not shot down. The damaged US plane force and crew landed in China- everything was later repatriated.
no country in the world has handled the question of declining birthrates. As women become educated and enter the workforce the fertility rate naturally falls as women can choose to put work ahead of family. The west solution to declining birthrates is immigration. But as the west has experienced, uncontrolled immigration has its own problems. The lack of resources to integrate new immigrants is a major problem, as it leads to inequality, lack of employment and crime.
Martin was politely touching on the racist aspect of the American response to the pan demic. But the truth of the matter is that the real contest that's going on between America and China, in my opinion, is a RACIAL CIVILIZATIONAL contest much more than a geopolitical or ideological contest. The Americans are finding it extremely difficult to accept the inevitability that a peoples whom they'd colonised and had always perceived as being inferior to them can actually prove themselves to be equal to and in many ways , better than them. The Americans are choking on this reality Psychologically. Kishore Mahbhubani attributes America's stance as the typical Thuycidedes trap ie. a leading power generally using war to retain its dominant position as history tends to prove. If this theory still persists in the 21st Century, it can only suggest that America hasn't evolved too far civilizationally from those cavemen days when might was always right . I term this as barbarians in stylishly tailored suits. On the other hand, if America is as "civilised" as they think themselves to be, they can learn to compete in all the other ways , economically, technologically , politically etc etc rather than merely flexing their muscles and brute strength every time as represented by their military might.
@Teeny Tiny The human virus may be reaching its Use By date. If so, so be it. Planet earth could do with a break from this virus and rejuvenate itself.
@Teeny Tiny The key point in your response is critical - "Humans can be just as amazing as we can be horrible" - absolutely agree. At this point in time, there's a bunch of people "in leadership" who appear to be hell bent on choosing the horrible over the amazing . But I suppose this had always been happening since Man walked the earth. So, we just rant and let off a bit of steam and hopefully, more sane "leaders" will pick up the frustrations on the ground and help change direction from horrible to amazing yet again!
At most, this is a small part of the equation. China's rise was welcomed until it decided to double down on Leninist totalitarianism with a spice of nationalism. If this were truly a racial war, then the West would unite against the East and the East would be destroyed. So race is clearly not the main factor.
@@wyatdick1 "China was welcomed until it decided to double down on Leninist totalitarianism with a spice of nationalism". What does it matter whether its a white cat or a black cat as long as it catches mice? In the last 40 years, China has lifted its entire population out of abject poverty. Not a single shot had China fired outside its borders. Overall, the Chinese peoples have not experienced the quality of life and standard of living over the last 4000+ years of its history than it is experiencing now. During the same period, the West in general and the US in particular have experienced the largest growing number of people on food stamps and homelessness. Its the only country amongst the OECD countries to be experiencing a declining life expectancy. Its also the country leading the charge in the murder and displacement of millions of innocent, defenceless civilian men, women and children around the world in the guise of a so called "war on terror" over the last 20+ years and counting. Its the only country with more than 800 military bases and a further 200 bioweapons labs around the globe encircling China and Russia. So, who's the aggressor and what has "Leninist totalitarianism" and "nationalism " got to do with this? 96% of the Chinese peoples are satisfied with their government as the latest Harvard Research shows. Up from a previous 83%. The US scored a miserable 34% in the same research. So, why is the US and the West so determined on "containing" China's track record of peaceful rise? Isn't this merely projecting the US and the West's past and present behaviours? Just because they do what they do does not mean that others would follow that bad example as well. Or does it?
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。 It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it. There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does. But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies. For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now? China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。 Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
Its just Chinese's refusal of US bullying. Given time, she will either give in like Japan, Germany, France,....or she will prevail, either way, China will not isolate herself with the world or the US -- if her leaders learn something from history.
The Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan caught China by surprise n it took China some time to figure out the problem, whereas USA had plenty of time to prepare to deal with it
The one Ken, who cited Bloomberg's survey, i suspect, probably has not been to China. Or even if he had, has not lived there for an extended period of time. China is flourishing. Anyone with $100k usd of legimate money would not dream of leaving.
That seemed like such a small sum these days in the major cities in China, I'd say that covers majority of the middle class there, so 70% of the people in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen are leaving China? LOL
What China needs is to improve their communication more effectively in English rather then Chinese to the western audience, about it's policies and to win over them and discard previous wrong impression about it's past failures and have policies that will have a positive impact on their lives.
You never will, the power structure of the CCP regime will make sure of it. You can't fool the international public as you can inside China by it's Winnie the Pooh propaganda.
@@ronnydiehl7262 Winnie the Pooh propaganda is from the West not within China. China has already started using English media more effectively to influence the world as affirm by several western academics. Chinese influences will accelerate in the coming decades as it opens its markets further to international investors and its companies globalises and overtakes the US as the biggest economy as confirmed by IMF and World Bank. After joining WTO, the next big event will be CPTPP & RECEP which will accerate further its GDP and the Asian Pacific region.
In any given situation one has to look at the sample size. 100000 in a pool of 1.4 billion is a very small percentage. This number will not meet a statistically significant pool to forecast any trends, too small.
Chinese people should show more support and subscribe to speaker like J Martin on his unbiased talk on China US relation. I am disappointed that he has less than 50k subscribers. Where are all the Chinese listeners??
He's preaching to the choir. Those that need to listen won't. Plus YT demonetizes and doesn't recommend his videos. Positive news about China won't sell.
As in similar past existential challenges to US Business interests in foreign countries, the political leadership consistently responds to the needs of Wall St investors. The policy direction is largely influenced by domestic partisan politics. Dysfunctional at the moment.
As the US military aggressively moved into Eastern Europe, including into Ukraine, Middle East, and Far East, both Russia and China have strengthened economic and political ties to prevent a US military encirclement. While the primary thrust of the RBI is economic ties and development, the RBI’s secondary mission is breaking through the US military encirclement. USA has been busy creating political, social, or economic instability in Turkey, Myanmar, Pakistan, Xinjiang, Malaysia, Thailand, and HK in order to derail the RBI. TH-camr, Brian Beretic, have several comprehensive videos connecting the USA to these riots, rioters, and coup attempts. His TH-cam channel is “The New Atlas.”
Your bias comes thru to your so-called facts. The Chinese fighter pilot, on his third pass at intimidating flybys cut too close to a much slower and vastly less maneuverable propeller plane and, as a result, damaged his plane. No one has ever claimed shooting was involved. How much is the Chinese government paying you, anyway?
I don't agree with that chinese speaker who emphasize the ideological difference I think he miss the real mark.The actual cause for USA is that it just can't bear to have any country(or company) which comes close or surpass its abilities/ capabilities
Deep cultural difference: Selfishness vs Collective Well Being... Selfishness craves no limits to anything: Freedom of movement, speech, entreprise, ambition... which ultimately drives anarchy and inequalities, inherent to humankind and leads to impose ideas (including religious) on others, by whatever means... To compete, to show you are the best than anyone else, family, friends, neighbors, nations... All these aspects fit the US... China, on the other hand, has millennia of extremes, difficult learning processes, with many political and economic trials, has IMHO come up with a brilliant combination of political and economic model based on a non religious, ethical and moral (confucian) millenial background, common language, writing, and sense of Unity despite some regional differences, which provides strong collective economic growth while allowing individuals to prosper above others, but WITH limits, as the case of Alibaba founder has shown, and NEVER above the state, as opposed to the US, for instance, where one private company was able to CUT OUT the comunication tool used by nonetheless than the President of the US, something unthinkable in China...
What we have to know is Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Neither China nor USA has even come out of the bottom of this triangle yet. Perhaps there will be a third force.
@1:28:41, this man is naive or just regurgitating the nonsense he learnt from Econ 101. He says the international acceptance of a currency as the reserve currency is a function of confidence on the currency. If an important country refuse to accept the USD as reserve currency, the USA will dispatch a nuke carrier task force to that country to instill the necessary confidence in the USD in the country’s leadership.
FFR Freedom Fairplay Responsibility .... it is not freedom without fairplay .... it is not freedom without responsibility without FFR what sets in? fear anxiety suspicion animosity hatred throughout .... the constant feeling of being betrayed and so the need to do almost anything try live by instead of being efficient we end up doing things that are basically unneeded -- under shackled what freedom if your own countrymen turned out to be your worst nightmare? ----
I think Martin is bring too optimistic about China's unwillingness to take Taiwan by force. China probably has the capability to totally overpower Taiwan defense and capture Taiwanese politicians within 12 hours, and order Taiwanese government departments and businesses to go status quo as if nothing changes, all these before Wall Street can even response. Sure, there might some transient global response in the next few days, but once they realized TSMC is still producing 5nm chips for global consumption, things might just go back to status quo soon enough. Taiwanese defense may just collapsed in the same fashion the Afghan defense did when the Taliban took Kabul. Modern educated humans today do not have the DNA of those ancient patriotic idiots who are willing to die young for a cause when outgunned and outnumbered. Darwinism ensured that. Anyone wanna bet that Madam Tsai will fled Taiwan with bags of money like Ghani did?
@@smokyondagrass2353 Probably so, but if I have to guess, it's probably the same backlash as Tiniamen Square. The likelihood is China don't have to do this. There is a 95% chance a peaceful reunification will happen. The Taiwanese are a smart bunch also. That lady has to go first.
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。 It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。 It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl. China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically. China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end. Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes. China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979. China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened. The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India. The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it. There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does. But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies. For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now? China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。 Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link. www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
@@smokyondagrass2353 u must understand, chinese dont fight chinese. As long as they dont call for independence, time is on our side. We survive 5000years
CCP and Putin have learn from the fall of the Sovjetunion and will not let foreign liberal market forces rule freely in its country. Now we see a era with more global politics in business deal and increase the risk over the blocks. Supply chains will be more block dependent.
I liked his comment about Chinese governments traditionally being a bit paranoid. It makes sense. I mean, look at something as relatively recent as the Taiping Rebellion. That civil war resulted in the deaths of how many? Twenty million people? IIRC by some estimates that’s equivalent to the number of deaths in WW1.
What is the truth and situation with what has been reported in the western media about the problem in China of young people now increasingly "lying flat"?
american products can never beat Chinese products on price , be it cars, clothing, foodstuff, 5G internet of things, high speed rail, housing, space station paraphernalia .
topic specific -- USA will come back uplift the people Americans Russia and China have no problem with that ---- your arguments/ data mere temporarily a form disjunction ----
Martin is always fascinating to listen to and gives a refreshing perspective on China, much needed amid all the China bashing in western media. But why the reticence to express a view about Xinjiang? Martin doesn’t believe the stories of genocide. Ok, but on what evidence?
It is weird that in a so called *genocide situation" the population grew not like the Natives of North America before US came into being. Oh yes another wierd thing is how to produce evidence when it did not happened? It should be where is the evidence that genocide happened. The bodies and maybe a shrinking population not a growing population.
If you read this, YT is the defender of the Satan at work. I responded this on a different video that has claimed a 'genocide in Xinjiang' which is absolutely absurd.
@@donaldlineker6140 the country that talks of genocide is the country that goes round bombing all around the world. How much credibility has that country today? Dropping chemical, biological, depleted uranium and nuclear bombs on humanity. The one and only country.
Martin Jacques, j ust say the Chinese government did a dam good Jobb in every aspect and they continue to do so, including in Xinjiang and Tibet. western society could learn a lot from China.
We have to be clear what we're talking about when we mean "personal liberties." The US is the land of great personal freedom...for some people, mostly wealthy whites. For many others, simply getting pulled over by a cop for speeding means an unacceptably greater-than-zero chance that you'll get shot to death or (if you're a woman and nobody else is around) raped. God help you if you get sick and have to go to the hospital; it's hard to exercise personal liberties when the hospital puts a lien on your house to force you to pay off the astronomical bills you'll incur. Or you're already operating under crushing student loan debt in order to try to get a job that doesn't pay minimum (i.e., a non-livable) wage. And with the growing, anti-Asian racist sentiments in large parts of the US, I'm not sure how easy it would be to exercise one's personal liberties in those parts if you're an immigrant from China.
His study is an absolute disgusting mess!! Also with the podcasts that are available to listen to for a commoner like myself, I don't find anything that he said to be more insightful.
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Sharing an excellent comment from a Malaysian TH-camr:
I’m from Malaysia. China has traded with Malaysia for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another.
When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan concurred China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire.
Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium.
After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government:
1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free.
2. Make opium legal in China.
Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French (with supports from the US), started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor.
In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance (Empire of Japan, Russian Empire, British Empire (including India), France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris.
In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone.
Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles.
Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his infamous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from.
In just 30 years, the CPC have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height.
For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China.
Everything China does is negatively reported.
They claimed China used slave labor in making iPhones. The truth was, Apple was the most profitable company in the world, it took most of the profit, leave some to Foxconn (a Taiwanese company) and little to the labor.
They claimed China was inhuman with one-child policy. At the same time, they accused China of polluting the earth with its huge population. The fact is the Chinese consume just 30% of energy per capita compared to the US.
They claimed China underwent ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang. The fact is China has a policy which priorities ethnic minorities. For a long time, the ethnic minorities were allowed to have two children and the majority Han only allowed one. The minorities are allowed a lower score for university intakes. There are 39,000 mosque in China, and 2100 in the US. China has about 3 times more mosque per muslim than the US.
When terrorist attacks happened in Xinjiang, China had two choices:
1. Re-educate the Uighur extremists before they turned terrorists.
2. Let them be, after they launch attacks and killed innocent people, bomb their homes.
China chose 1 to solve problem from the root and not to do killing. How the US solve terrorism? Fire missiles from battleships, drop bombs from the sky.
During the pandemic,
When China took extreme measures to lockdown the people, they were accused of being inhuman.
When China recovered swiftly because of the extreme measures, they were accused of lying about the actual numbers.
When China’s cases became so low that they could provide medical support to other countries, they were accused of politically motivated.
Western Media always have reasons to bash China.
Just like any country, there are irresponsible individuals from China which do bad and dirty things, but the China government overall has done very well. But I hear this comment over and over by people from the West: I like Chinese people, but the CPC is evil. What they really want is the Chinese to change the government, because the current one is too good.
Fortunately China is not a multi-party democratic country, otherwise the opposition party in China will be supported by notorious NGOs (Non-Government Organization) of the USA, like the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), to topple the ruling party. The US and the British couldn’t crack Mainland China, so they work on Hong Kong. Of all the ex-British colonial countries, only the Hong Kongers were offered BNOs by the British. Because the UK would like the Hong Kongers to think they are British citizens, not Chinese. A divide-and-conquer strategy, which they often used in Color Revolutions around the world.
They resort to low dirty tricks like detaining Huawei’s CFO & banning Huawei. They raised a silly trade war which benefits no one. Trade deficit always exist between a developing and a developed country. USA is like a luxury car seller who ask a farmer: why am I always buying your vegetables and you haven’t bought any of my cars?
When the Chinese were making socks for the world 30 years ago, the world let it be. But when Chinese started to make high technology products, like Huawei and DJI, it caused red-alert. Because when Western and Japanese products are equal to Chinese in technologies, they could never match the Chinese in prices. First world countries want China to continue in making socks. Instead of stepping up themselves, they want to pull China down.
The recent movement by the US against China has a very important background. When Libya, Iran, and China decided to ditch the US dollar in oil trades, Gaddafi’s was killed by the US, Iran was being sanctioned by the US, and now it’s China’s turn. The US has been printing money out of nothing. The only reason why the US Dollar is still widely accepted, is because it’s the only currency which oil is allowed to be traded with. The US has an agreement with Saudi that oil must be traded in US dollar ONLY. Without the petrol-dollar status, the US dollars will sink, and America will fall. Therefore anyone trying to disobey this order will be eliminated. China will soon use a gold-backed crypto-currency, the alarms in the White House go off like mad.
China’s achievement has been by hard work. Not by looting the world.
I have deep sympathy for China for all the suffering, but now I feel happy for them. China is not rising, they are going back to where they belong. Good luck China.
Congratulations to bladders Tzi for your efforts in writing this long but very informative comments. It gives the readers a very comprehensive historical report. Thank you
You’re absolutely correct.
You’re the first that I come across that understood those facts from your comment, rather than bias western perspective.
@Teeny Tiny
The original group of CCP were uneducated to little educated some what at best. Their philosophy carry on to present days.
Of course there are many details about it.
100% correct and truth
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher
The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。
It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.
China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.
China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.
The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.
There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.
But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.
For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?
China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。
Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link.
www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
Chinese have the old fashion view of civilized meaning non-violence, which is opposed to the modern western understanding of civilized. "Civilizing Torture: An American Tradition" by W. Fitzhugh Brundage 2018
are you serious ??
But China CCP has been more violent than USA, so is China a barbarian going on to civilized? Or was it in civilized state in 1949....
@47:01, US-China peaceful coexistence lasted 44 years. Cold War lasted 42 years. The current anti-China campaign by the USA will last no further than 2030 for the simple reason that the USD would have imploded and thereby losing its world reserve currency status.
I would say that US will implode by 2025 after the 2024 Presidential elections when neither side will concede defeat. Republicans are laying the ground work for this conflict now by installing partisans into State institutions that will either change or ignore laws to guarantee indefinite power by a small minority of radicals. It will look like Germany in the 1930's preceding Hitler's authoritarian coup.
@35:24, Martin failed to see the one-two-three punch that exposed the hubris of the US government. The 2008 Financial Crisis placed the world on notice that USA no longer had the competence to lead the world’s finance. The mismanagement of the Covid-19 pandemic in the USA proved to the world that the US government is impotent. The US trade war against China has backfired as US trade deficit with China increased even as the lethargic US economy stagnate or declines.
USA had yesterday the audacity to ask China to stop buying petrol from Iran. USA has not yet learnt to treat with people. They also haven't learn that sanction do not work with civilization states. Both Iran and China have been through everything multiple times. They know pain and are patient enough to handle all of them.
Why should china listen to America? Iran is part of sco...America can't do as they wish anymore since China is another alternative for the world.
Have you eloped from a lunatic hospital?
Two very corrupt governments.
@15:22, if China’s economy were twice the size of US economy by 2030, then the USD will no longer be the world reserve currency afterward. The repercussions on the USA would be severe: lower standard of living; political instability; loss of international influence and hegemony.
YUP - No ability to indiscriminately leverage "sanctions and embargoes" against other countries.
It has been planned. The global capitalist at WEF is planning for the global reserve currency to be manage by the IMF with the creation of CBDC based on eSDR.
@@calvyncraven1141
Do the Chinese support this?
@@jh85075
Not quite. It will still be able, in combination with its allies and protégés, to sanction and embargo countries, just not China (and possibly Russia and India). At least not effectively. This will especially be the case if China supports such actions or does nothing to stop them, as for instance by not using its veto at the UN. China doesn't seem to really care what the USA does to other countries as long as it doesn't directly or immediately impinge on its own interests.
@@view1st not sure.
To Mr. Ken Shen’s point about 70% of Chinese with assets over 100K wishing to send the money overseas, I think you asked the same question to Taiwanese, you would get a similar percentage of Taiwanese responding the same way. A vast majority of the Taiwanese rich people and politicians have their children or close relatives overseas. Same with Indians. Don’t try make this as a political issue!
good point there.
Smart money go where they can make more.
Most USA money also goes to China.
Ken quoted BLOOMBERG...the same outfit that recently ranked the US as the best equipped country to handle a pandemic. I think that says it all...
He just thinks like a white person
The key point is how many of them returned.
When was this static made? Of course it would make sense to move for economic reasons especially earlier when China was just starting to develop. He obviously believes all the msm or Falun Gong negative reporting.
excellent as usual Martin. A deep, broad understanding, and great explanation. Hope remain well for a long time.
The great professor's wife died? My deepest sympathies. I'm deeply saddened.
The organizer was fortunate and honoured to have Prof. Martin who, as always, has great insights on world views in the most professional and impartial manner. Wish the West have their ears on his thought-provoking and pragmatic views and acts accordingly, and the world will become a place for everyone including the West. Thanks Prof. for your invaluable insights.
Pp
Thank you Mr. Jacques for your acute observations. As a fellow Brit who has been fortunate enough to have called China my home since 2008, I have seen first hand what an incredible job the government here has done. I will forever be grateful to the Chinese government and the front line healthcare professionals for keeping me and my family safe from COVID. The government here truly serves the people and I am happy to go on record in saying that President Xi Jinping is the greatest political mind since the late great Lee Kuan Yew. Contrary to the narrative spun by Western leaders and Western media, the government here is truly well-intentioned in everything that it does and is making all the right moves. China is a safe country and a wonderful place to raise my daughter, and we now enjoy the best infrastructure in the World, bar none.
I've lived in China since 2006 and I absolutely agree. If you admire President Xi as I do, you might like to read the 3 Vols, Xi Jinping The Governance of China.
I am from singapore.. =)
Anyway, chinese civilization had many great emperors and we still remember them till this day. Not everything was good, or perfect but we can let histroy judge
CCP shill.
Why the tech war? It's because America can see the writing on the wall, there is a brain drain happening here in America, starting about a decade ago. Right now signs are a little hard to see, but as every 5 year passes the more this brain drain will become more visible. Meaning right now we are living off of the past R&D which will only last another 20 or so years. Not saying the country will fall of the cliff but it will be like the rest of Europe where innovations doesn't come thick and fast like in the US starting in the mid-70's to the last decade.
What's wrong with state support? Every state supports big companies. Not doing so hinders progress.
There is Chinese great maxim: 故國雖大, 好戰必亡; 天下雖安, 忘戰必危.
or: "Big country would be self destructive when become too belligerent. Country that's oblivious to a threat of war may be endangered itself"
In the past 20 years or longer than that, there were numerous tensed disputes over the East Sea (as Vietnam calls it) or South China Sea as the AUKUS & QUAD & others call it. Ships even dangerously rammed at each other among most the claimants. However, All of these Asian countries managed really well, NONE fired a single bullet at one another. This proved that despite mighty China Naval overwhelmingly out gun other Asian forces but China has been NOT Belligerent or Aggressive as the AUKUS awkwardly disinformation.
Further more, China increase its Defense Budget proportionally to its GDP Growth. Thus, after the Century of Humiliation at the hands of the West & Japanese, especially, since 1949 the PLA has never been oblivious to threats of war or rather the West has kept the PLA being alerted all time.
Therefore China balance very well between 故國雖大, 好戰必亡; 天下雖安, 忘戰必危.
One stark difference between China & the US/UK is that Chinese people are generally optimistic of their future wellbeing, live in more harmony & trust their government. While more & more people especially the youngsters in the US/UK are skeptical of their future: Student Debt, Housing affordability & employment. The expression "This generation is worse than their parents' & grand parents" In the West, they don't trust their "democratically" elected governments. These trends in 2 worlds have persisted over 2 decades & continuing so.
South China Sea is and was belong to China and China right to defend as were written in Histories, not by US or UK to interfere nor right of sailing excuses to split among Asia society or Asian Countries.
1981 was the year when they returned to a 1920s timeline called Reaganomics that has led to the current Plutocratic (meaning rule by the 1%, of the 1%, for the 1%) Super Fascism (where the corporations run the govt). They call this Democracy and try to push it on the rest of the World.
By the change to personal greed, the US has become self-indulgent, narcissistic, decadent and paranoid with an underlying inferiority complex.
It is no longer a cohesive nation and has created a limit on its performance and growth.
Dragging other countries down to their level, rather than raising themselves up.
You simply do not judge another country through msm.You have to go there to see for yourself first before judging.
uh yeah, ive been to china, everybody is poor, nobody has freedom of dissent, and everyone wishes they lived elsewhere
I visited Chyna in 2004. Almost couldn’t believe what I observed there! The people are diverse economically, but the vast majority appear to be “happy” (if that’s a real thing), living their lives in an intentional and meaningful manner. They individually have their hopes and dreams, their family structures are internalised and well adjusted, they are very respectful and work damned hard with purpose. And the persons I spent time with enjoy a good time sharing their experiences.
The unfortunate thing in Msia is that ppl r sensitive to the word communism. With it China has produce gd results n the world shld accept n adopt some of its sys. Democracy is not superior, meritocracy is. N Asean shld work strongly together n ward off a possible Asia Spring here. N also aim to implement like China for common prosperity to its ppl in Asean countries too cos. capitalism is imperfect.
I am a Malaysian who have lived in China since 1998. It’s rare that someone from a capitalist world sees the problems with capitalism and democracy, I am glad you do.
It's true. A lot of Malaysians including the Malaysian Chinese still have the misconception of communism. This misconception derived from many of the Hollywood movies portraying the downside of communism in N.Korea, Soviet Union, Vietnam and etc. For many years, we thought democracy is the 'only' system that works for any country in the world because the US military are always portrayed as the heroes spearheading the liberation of people in communist countries. But heck, look at our democracy...it's fake democracy, blatantly put it out to us second class citizens(non-muslim) with open discrimination and racism. When reality sets in, we found out that setting up backdoor government is not illegal. A joke, to be honest. Democracy with the element of capitalism sets up many loop holes in the system, it's just a matter of how big the problem the system creates before it pops. We see court judges easily bought over with money, lawyers bribed, financial institutions get away with fines(and no one is held accountable to the mess they created in the economy). Rich people in power will always get away with crimes in democratic countries. Loop holes only rich and cunning people can manipulate for their advantages. People are still ignorant with facts of life. many people who takes on information the mainstream media disseminates still believe communism is an evil thing yet they fail to research and understand how the rise of China is not 100% attributed by communist elements, but socialism with Chinese characteristics. And Chinese characteristic can be found in history text...if people start looking into it. So, the misconception still lives on...because people are ignorant with historical facts and conveniently consume falsehoods that are constantly bombarded by the western media
@@jonboy82 exactly, I can give 15 reasons why democracy is a failed system.
@@zeissiez Yeah man...we have experienced a broken democracy in Malaysia. it's all a facade now
@@jonboy82 all the successful democracy has socialism fundamental, like Northern Europe. Liberal democracy is just a way for the rich to divide and rule.
China can give 2 years paid leave to mothers, allow them to work from home, provide state sponsored early childhood, paid childcare and provide free health care , schooling etc. and praise women with more children socially as they are doing a duty to the country.
Which is why China’s birth rate has collapsed. All those benefits.
😂😂😂😂
@@slowtine have you heard of one child policy?
@@slowtine
That is a very complicated issue!
(Only Islam will persist!)
@James Cooper US allows women to have children and pays for maternity leave and has good social welfare for kids.
China had a one child policy and has useless social welfare.
China sends astronauts to Mars but still has 600 million Chinese earning $140 a MONTH.
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher
The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。
It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.
China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.
China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.
The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.
There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.
But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.
For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?
China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。
Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link.
www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
The man at 1:40:00 sees too much western. It is not true his stereotype about western system superiority. Truth is most Chinese recognise and accept the priority of the society over individual freedom. 有国才有家。
He sounds like a western troll; probably benefitted from exploitative capitalism so he'd sings to the tune of unhappiness in China and China is bad
Still drinking the Western kool Aid
China recognizes that it has problems, but it is working hard fixing them; unlike Western societies that just give you the illusion of choice, but in reality, you're being exploited and the government isn't acting for people's interest but that of businesses who provide election funds
China process the ultimate weapon and will succeed without any wars or destruction. It’s call PEACE
Martin Jacques is a straight professor and he understands very well about China which will be the ruler of the world
China doesn’t even rule China 😂
Agreed. China and the rest of Asia are taking over leadership for the next century.
@@trekpac2 The rest of Asia hates China, and will keep inviting the US into the region. China is snookered.
China does not want to be the Ruler of the world, It just wants to
be treated equal n respected,just the way they treat the others.
Confucius said "Don't treat others the way if you yourself don't
want to be treated that way"
@@slowtine us lost in Korean War.
In Marathons, the majority of runners (aka countries) practice and work hard to achieve and improve their personal performance, while a few other runners (very few) instead of try to self-improve, would instead ruthlessly and try hard (mostly illegally) to place impediments and obstacles in the way of the frontrunner, in hope of illegitimately "winning" the Marathon race.
Do you remember Lance Armstrong? He dragged others into his plot to make himself the Tour de France winner for seven years... do we see any similarities between the US government and this individual? Is winning at all cost the most important thing in life? Really sad.
Another lovely talk by Martin Jacques with a clear and honest appraisal of the USA and China. I do feel that he made an error when he stated that the Covid-19 originated in China, he should have stated that the pandemic was discovered in China, the best evidence strongly suggests that Sars Cov 2 originated from an ancestor virus which does not exist in East Asia. There is good evidence that this virus may have originated in either America or Europe.
Martin Jacques also had a problem recalling the "Hainan Island Incident", here is the excerpt from Wikipedia "The Hainan Island incident occurred on April 1, 2001, when a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals intelligence aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet collided in mid-air, resulting in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China (PRC). A collision between the EP-3 and one of the J-8s caused a PRC pilot to go missing (later presumed dead), and the EP-3 was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan."
"Science and Civilisation in China (1954-present)" by British historian Joseph Needham
There is a big negative effect of having a reserve currency that is being printed in the manner of the USD....the dreaded dutch disease. Like the free gold that spain acquired from their american empire, the free printed dollars of the US Fed has created, in my opinion, has a similar effect on US industry. Inflation and the high price of the currency has lead to a similar displacement of domestic industries overseas. Even if there was no China, it would have gone to other countries..
man this is a refreshing comments section
Actually, as someone who’s British and has been working in a British university in China for almost 13 years now I’ve noticed that many of China’s greatest critics are other Chinese from Malaysia, Singapore and other southeast Asian countries. I was quite surprised by this initially but I suspect it comes from emigrated Chinese who had to leave and have never forgiven their motherland for the hardships they endured.
9:30 - 9:40 I expected that sentence to end in "... of itself". 🤣
I agree what he says on Uyghurs .The whole genocide thing is total rubbish, nothing but propaganda. I had studied the subject years ago. What basically China is trying to do is to channelise the radical elements among Muslims to something productive like learning a new language, technical skills etc.They are very smart and think way ahead. They have seen the geo politics of Iraq, Libya and Syria very well and they don't want a similar situation in Xinjiang.
This is an excellent discussion as of the past ones with professor Martin Jacques ! He's so knowledgeable on the subject. It's a pity the sound system from professor's end was very weak , but it's definitely worth the while to strain to hear him out . Certain parts were inaudible though. Many thanks to all of you great guys ! Looking forward to hearing from all of you again.!
if this is TRADE war
then
why all USA moves weren't to be competitive ?
its all military and political.
@1:05:06, the Chinese interceptor plane fatally collided with the US spy plane, not shot down. The damaged US plane force and crew landed in China- everything was later repatriated.
no country in the world has handled the question of declining birthrates.
As women become educated and enter the workforce the fertility rate naturally falls as women can choose to put work ahead of family.
The west solution to declining birthrates is immigration. But as the west has experienced, uncontrolled immigration has its own problems.
The lack of resources to integrate new immigrants is a major problem, as it leads to inequality, lack of employment and crime.
Martin was politely touching on the racist aspect of the American response to the pan demic. But the truth of the matter is that the real contest that's going on between America and China, in my opinion, is a RACIAL CIVILIZATIONAL contest much more than a geopolitical or ideological contest.
The Americans are finding it extremely difficult to accept the inevitability that a peoples whom they'd colonised and had always perceived as being inferior to them can actually prove themselves to be equal to and in many ways , better than them.
The Americans are choking on this reality Psychologically.
Kishore Mahbhubani attributes America's stance as the typical Thuycidedes trap ie. a leading power generally using war to retain its dominant position as history tends to prove.
If this theory still persists in the 21st Century, it can only suggest that America hasn't evolved too far civilizationally from those cavemen days when might was always right . I term this as barbarians in stylishly tailored suits.
On the other hand, if America is as "civilised" as they think themselves to be, they can learn to compete in all the other ways , economically, technologically , politically etc etc rather than merely flexing their muscles and brute strength every time as represented by their military might.
@Teeny Tiny The human virus may be reaching its Use By date. If so, so be it. Planet earth could do with a break from this virus and rejuvenate itself.
@Teeny Tiny The key point in your response is critical - "Humans can be just as amazing as we can be horrible" - absolutely agree. At this point in time, there's a bunch of people "in leadership" who appear to be hell bent on choosing the horrible over the amazing . But I suppose this had always been happening since Man walked the earth. So, we just rant and let off a bit of steam and hopefully, more sane "leaders" will pick up the frustrations on the ground and help change direction from horrible to amazing yet again!
At most, this is a small part of the equation. China's rise was welcomed until it decided to double down on Leninist totalitarianism with a spice of nationalism. If this were truly a racial war, then the West would unite against the East and the East would be destroyed. So race is clearly not the main factor.
@@wyatdick1 "China was welcomed until it decided to double down on Leninist totalitarianism with a spice of nationalism". What does it matter whether its a white cat or a black cat as long as it catches mice? In the last 40 years, China has lifted its entire population out of abject poverty. Not a single shot had China fired outside its borders. Overall, the Chinese peoples have not experienced the quality of life and standard of living over the last 4000+ years of its history than it is experiencing now. During the same period, the West in general and the US in particular have experienced the largest growing number of people on food stamps and homelessness. Its the only country amongst the OECD countries to be experiencing a declining life expectancy. Its also the country leading the charge in the murder and displacement of millions of innocent, defenceless civilian men, women and children around the world in the guise of a so called "war on terror" over the last 20+ years and counting. Its the only country with more than 800 military bases and a further 200 bioweapons labs around the globe encircling China and Russia. So, who's the aggressor and what has "Leninist totalitarianism" and "nationalism " got to do with this? 96% of the Chinese peoples are satisfied with their government as the latest Harvard Research shows. Up from a previous 83%. The US scored a miserable 34% in the same research. So, why is the US and the West so determined on "containing" China's track record of peaceful rise? Isn't this merely projecting the US and the West's past and present behaviours? Just because they do what they do does not mean that others would follow that bad example as well. Or does it?
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher
The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。
It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.
China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.
China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.
The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.
There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.
But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.
For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?
China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。
Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link.
www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
where do you get this cartoon
Its just Chinese's refusal of US bullying. Given time, she will either give in like Japan, Germany, France,....or she will prevail, either way, China will not isolate herself with the world or the US -- if her leaders learn something from history.
The Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan caught China by surprise n it took China
some time to figure out the problem, whereas USA had plenty of time to
prepare to deal with it
Covid came from China ...
Yes Covid 19 came from CHINA. and that's thé truth. God Bless America
Covid 19 made in China
that one guy who actually believes stories from Bloomberg....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Volume ?
The one Ken, who cited Bloomberg's survey, i suspect, probably has not been to China. Or even if he had, has not lived there for an extended period of time. China is flourishing. Anyone with $100k usd of legimate money would not dream of leaving.
That seemed like such a small sum these days in the major cities in China, I'd say that covers majority of the middle class there, so 70% of the people in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen are leaving China? LOL
For Malaysian Chinese, it is preferable to have a basic degree in the UK or
Commonwealth countries first,but further studies can be anywhere
What China needs is to improve their communication more effectively in English rather then Chinese to the western audience, about it's policies and to win over them and discard previous wrong impression about it's past failures and have policies that will have a positive impact on their lives.
You never will, the power structure of the CCP regime will make sure of it. You can't fool the international public as you can inside China by it's Winnie the Pooh propaganda.
@@ronnydiehl7262 Winnie the Pooh propaganda is from the West not within China. China has already started using English media more effectively to influence the world as affirm by several western academics. Chinese influences will accelerate in the coming decades as it opens its markets further to international investors and its companies globalises and overtakes the US as the biggest economy as confirmed by IMF and World Bank. After joining WTO, the next big event will be CPTPP & RECEP which will accerate further its GDP and the Asian Pacific region.
In any given situation one has to look at the sample size. 100000 in a pool of 1.4 billion is a very small percentage. This number will not meet a statistically significant pool to forecast any trends, too small.
100 million online views last night for the welcome home live broadcast. big enough sample size?
Chinese people should show more support and subscribe to speaker like J Martin on his unbiased talk on China US relation. I am disappointed that he has less than 50k subscribers. Where are all the Chinese listeners??
He has huge auditions on chinese platform.
He's preaching to the choir. Those that need to listen won't. Plus YT demonetizes and doesn't recommend his videos. Positive news about China won't sell.
As in similar past existential challenges to US Business interests in foreign countries, the political leadership consistently responds to the needs of Wall St investors. The policy direction is largely influenced by domestic partisan politics. Dysfunctional at the moment.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
As the US military aggressively moved into Eastern Europe, including into Ukraine, Middle East, and Far East, both Russia and China have strengthened economic and political ties to prevent a US military encirclement. While the primary thrust of the RBI is economic ties and development, the RBI’s secondary mission is breaking through the US military encirclement. USA has been busy creating political, social, or economic instability in Turkey, Myanmar, Pakistan, Xinjiang, Malaysia, Thailand, and HK in order to derail the RBI. TH-camr, Brian Beretic, have several comprehensive videos connecting the USA to these riots, rioters, and coup attempts. His TH-cam channel is “The New Atlas.”
Please note that the “ Belt & Road Initiative “ is abbreviated as BRI, not RBI.
Your bias comes thru to your so-called facts. The Chinese fighter pilot, on his third pass at intimidating flybys cut too close to a much slower and vastly less maneuverable propeller plane and, as a result, damaged his plane. No one has ever claimed shooting was involved. How much is the Chinese government paying you, anyway?
Very pogchamp, Mr Martin.
If dominant countries can not live n let live, then we will all hang together. Lose, loose.
I don't agree with that chinese speaker who emphasize the ideological difference
I think he miss the real mark.The actual cause for USA is that it just can't bear
to have any country(or company) which comes close or surpass its abilities/
capabilities
The Professor needs a better microphone😉
Deep cultural difference: Selfishness vs Collective Well Being...
Selfishness craves no limits to anything: Freedom of movement, speech, entreprise, ambition... which ultimately drives anarchy and inequalities, inherent to humankind and leads to impose ideas (including religious) on others, by whatever means... To compete, to show you are the best than anyone else, family, friends, neighbors, nations... All these aspects fit the US...
China, on the other hand, has millennia of extremes, difficult learning processes, with many political and economic trials, has IMHO come up with a brilliant combination of political and economic model based on a non religious, ethical and moral (confucian) millenial background, common language, writing, and sense of Unity despite some regional differences, which provides strong collective economic growth while allowing individuals to prosper above others, but WITH limits, as the case of Alibaba founder has shown, and NEVER above the state, as opposed to the US, for instance, where one private company was able to CUT OUT the comunication tool used by nonetheless than the President of the US, something unthinkable in China...
Great lecture and talk… many thanks!
What we have to know is Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Neither China nor USA has even come out of the bottom of this triangle yet. Perhaps there will be a third force.
@1:28:41, this man is naive or just regurgitating the nonsense he learnt from Econ 101. He says the international acceptance of a currency as the reserve currency is a function of confidence on the currency. If an important country refuse to accept the USD as reserve currency, the USA will dispatch a nuke carrier task force to that country to instill the necessary confidence in the USD in the country’s leadership.
Mr Marque is a great scholar with clear world vision! Very informative and inspiring!
FFR Freedom Fairplay Responsibility
.... it is not freedom without fairplay
.... it is not freedom without responsibility
without FFR what sets in?
fear anxiety suspicion animosity hatred throughout
.... the constant feeling of being betrayed
and so the need to do almost anything try live by
instead of being efficient we end up doing things that are basically unneeded --
under shackled
what freedom if your own countrymen turned out to be your worst nightmare?
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1:43:00 that figure is literally a complete lie.
Ken Shen that dude I don’t know what he smoking or what cave he’s been fell asleep may be both. Wakes up and open your eyes look around.
M's voice is hardly audible.
I think Martin is bring too optimistic about China's unwillingness to take Taiwan by force. China probably has the capability to totally overpower Taiwan defense and capture Taiwanese politicians within 12 hours, and order Taiwanese government departments and businesses to go status quo as if nothing changes, all these before Wall Street can even response. Sure, there might some transient global response in the next few days, but once they realized TSMC is still producing 5nm chips for global consumption, things might just go back to status quo soon enough.
Taiwanese defense may just collapsed in the same fashion the Afghan defense did when the Taliban took Kabul. Modern educated humans today do not have the DNA of those ancient patriotic idiots who are willing to die young for a cause when outgunned and outnumbered. Darwinism ensured that. Anyone wanna bet that Madam Tsai will fled Taiwan with bags of money like Ghani did?
Most Taiwanese troops are conscripts and many are from the strawberry generation.
True, but the backlash from this though would be bad for china though. I thinking china is smarter than this
@@smokyondagrass2353 Probably so, but if I have to guess, it's probably the same backlash as Tiniamen Square. The likelihood is China don't have to do this. There is a 95% chance a peaceful reunification will happen. The Taiwanese are a smart bunch also. That lady has to go first.
This article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher
The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far. 。。
It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。。
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis.
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.
China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.
China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.
The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
The 1500s-1000s BC were Egypt’s time. Antiquity belonged to the Greeks and Romans. The 1700s belonged to France, and the 1800s to Britain. From 1945 to the present, the world has been under American overlordship. And they call it the Pax Americana but there isn’t much Pax in it.
There’s plenty of Pax if you’re in Europe or Australia. But the Middle East? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran and Yemen in the past 20 years. Latin America? They’ve destroyed that part of the world beyond any hope of recovery. Africa? It’s only been spared because of disinterest. The US sees Africa as nothing. The whole West does.
But in the twenty-first century, we are witnessing the rise of China. We are decades away from China becoming the greatest power on earth. This will be China’s time, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Attack China all you want, curse her and monger rumours and hysteria - but the truth is that none of your accusations are backed up by evidence. The Western press is under the thumb of Western governments that want to stay on top of the world for eternity. And the truth is that China is not affected by the noise and maneuvers of her enemies.
For her first thirty years, from 1949 to 1979, China was basically blockaded and isolated economically and politically by the West. It didn’t even have a seat in the UN General Assembly. And it was dirt-poor in those days, barely a speck of the global economy, a tiny fraction of Japan’s or Germany’s GDP - not even able to prevent famine. And it still didn’t submit to pressure or take any orders. Why on earth would it do that now?
China will be the next global power. There’s nothing that can be done about that. The first stage is that its economy only needs to grow at 4.7 percent per year to become the world’s largest by 2035. That means the usual, historical bare-minimum of 6 percent is already overkill. The US can build as many bases as it wants, slap as many sanctions as it wants, recognise whatever bogus genocides it wants. That’s what it’s been doing all along. Has any of it made a difference? China can adapt to any situation. It took China a mere ten years to go from being barred by the US Congress from participating in the “International” Space Station, to building its own Space Station from zero. 。
Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link.
www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
@@smokyondagrass2353 u must understand, chinese dont fight chinese. As long as they dont call for independence, time is on our side. We survive 5000years
CCP and Putin have learn from the fall of the Sovjetunion and will not let foreign liberal market forces rule freely in its country. Now we see a era with more global politics in business deal and increase the risk over the blocks. Supply chains will be more block dependent.
I liked his comment about Chinese governments traditionally being a bit paranoid. It makes sense. I mean, look at something as relatively recent as the Taiping Rebellion. That civil war resulted in the deaths of how many? Twenty million people? IIRC by some estimates that’s equivalent to the number of deaths in WW1.
equivalent to the number of deaths in the Great Leap Forward.
On propaganda. I think the South China Morning Post TH-cam channel is the best Chinese news channel
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What is the truth and situation with what has been reported in the western media about the problem in China of young people now increasingly "lying flat"?
thank god cartoon
american products can never beat Chinese products on price , be it cars, clothing, foodstuff, 5G internet of things, high speed rail, housing, space station paraphernalia .
You are deluded
why are you living in england
Good job.martinz👍
X-Files
Earthling human beings (love) vs. hostile alien vampires (greed).
topic specific --
USA will come back uplift the people
Americans
Russia and China have no problem with that
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your arguments/ data mere temporarily
a form disjunction
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chukoku banzai.
OMG he is so incisive. Also worth listening to is Kishore Mahbubani.
Martin is always fascinating to listen to and gives a refreshing perspective on China, much needed amid all the China bashing in western media. But why the reticence to express a view about Xinjiang? Martin doesn’t believe the stories of genocide. Ok, but on what evidence?
On what evidence there is genocide in Xinjiang? Any exodus of the Uigers from Xinjiang not withstanding the Uigers that fought with the ISIS.
It is weird that in a so called *genocide situation" the population grew not like the Natives of North America before US came into being.
Oh yes another wierd thing is how to produce evidence when it did not happened? It should be where is the evidence that genocide happened. The bodies and maybe a shrinking population not a growing population.
If you read this, YT is the defender of the Satan at work. I responded this on a different video that has claimed a 'genocide in Xinjiang' which is absolutely absurd.
@@donaldlineker6140 the country that talks of genocide is the country that goes round bombing all around the world. How much credibility has that country today?
Dropping chemical, biological, depleted uranium and nuclear bombs on humanity. The one and only country.
作为一个新疆人，我觉得新疆屠杀真的太可笑了，我很同情你们这些活在谎言里的人。
There was one incident for China and USA. Many incidents for USA in South China Sea. 😳🤔
How you can say that China is not expansionist... Bullshit.....what China is doing in Indian North border and off course south China sea....
Hello indians
ha. ha
A new “Cold War”.
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Martin Jacques, j ust say the Chinese government did a dam good Jobb in every aspect and they continue to do so, including in Xinjiang and Tibet.
western society could learn a lot from China.
We have to be clear what we're talking about when we mean "personal liberties." The US is the land of great personal freedom...for some people, mostly wealthy whites. For many others, simply getting pulled over by a cop for speeding means an unacceptably greater-than-zero chance that you'll get shot to death or (if you're a woman and nobody else is around) raped. God help you if you get sick and have to go to the hospital; it's hard to exercise personal liberties when the hospital puts a lien on your house to force you to pay off the astronomical bills you'll incur. Or you're already operating under crushing student loan debt in order to try to get a job that doesn't pay minimum (i.e., a non-livable) wage. And with the growing, anti-Asian racist sentiments in large parts of the US, I'm not sure how easy it would be to exercise one's personal liberties in those parts if you're an immigrant from China.
Liar.
Ccp propaganda
His study is an absolute disgusting mess!! Also with the podcasts that are available to listen to for a commoner like myself, I don't find anything that he said to be more insightful.
Perfectly understandable for people whose minds are greatly disturbed by the rise of China, to listen to this learned professor.
:)