I recently purchased a Bond Arms Roughneck Derringer and I love it...like firing a tiny canon! Quality like no other! Highly recommend these firearms to everyone
I see that you added the 22 magnum to the Honeybee model, I'm looking for the 22 magnum in the SL model because it is a lot lighter for concealed carry, when will you be adding the 22 magnum to the SL model?
@@BondArmsInc Many, thanks. So I also own a Mini. So just wondering if any and every interchangeable barrel is compatible for that Derringer or what-not? Thanks.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 Yes. Stinger barrels won't fit, but we not selling them as accessory barrels yet because they are so new. So, anything you see on the website will work from 2.5" all the way up to 6" and many, many caliber options.
The Stinger and Roughneck bring Bond Arms into the 2020s. Attacking the weight/size *and* the price point took a lot of courage, and I will definitely reward you for it when I find a 38 Special. I can see you took the P365 as a call to action.
Actually, the inspiration behind the Rough series was the Wrangler. Gordon realized how much we spend on polishing between materials and manpower, and so our Rough and Tumble finish was born and it took off! As for the size and weight issue, we had been working on that prior to the release of the P365 (which IS a fine weapon). We just shipped out a bunch of 38Spl, so you should be seeing them soon!
@@BondArmsInc The backup gun market is a tough market. People want smaller, lighter, and lower prices as if that's simple. I prefer backup guns over extra magazines, but it's an expensive preference. The brilliance of the Roughneck series to me is that normally it's actually hard to show people what forged metal out of a steel mill looks like.
@@BondArmsInc The Stinger RS makes the Derringer a modern pocket gun to me. The Stinger makes the Derringer a 21st century anywhere gun to me. Ankle, lanyard, pocket, bra, anywhere. I categorize mouse guns based on their caliber. 38 and 9mm is where you have a solider advantage with the Stinger and RS. The only competitor in size for the 9mm is the Diamondback DB9, and for 38 Spl you have a $300-400 price advantage of the 642 or 351pd, not even considering the holster tumor of a revolver. Don't feel pressured to move up in caliber. The weight and size are meant to be appreciated for what the ammo manufacturers can make the smaller calibers deliver in the 2020s. Even stout 9mm is a lot to get a follow up shot with at 11 oz. Don't feel pressured to offer 10 mm just to make people laugh.
@@jameslooker4791 Thanks! Yeah, since derringers are already a niche market, we can't really cowtow to the few who want unrealistic calibers in frames that are way too lightweight.
I'm sorry, but we don't have a date on that yet. There have been some significant changes at the shop, and we have to fulfill the demand for firearms before manufacturing barrels as accessory purchases.
Hello, I have the roughneck in 357/38 love it mainly shoot 38 or shell shot in. Also just purchase the stinger in 9mm am wondering if I can order the 380 barrel for it from Bond arms? As the 9mm is a handful to shoot.
We haven't really pushed out replacement barrels on the Stinger line yet to the dealers, but if you call us at 817-573-4445, customer service can probably help you out. We will have the barrel replacements soon, just haven't had demand yet.
You don't need to mount an extractor as we already put extractors on all barrels that fire rimmed ammo. The 38Spl would be one of those. If you're talking about 9mm or 380ACP, an extractor won't do anything as there is no lip on the brass for the extractor to push on. I encourage you to research rimmed vs rimless ammo as that is the critical factor on whether an extractor will work or not.
Are they available at dealers now. I have been checking with my Local dealers for over a year now and no one seems to ever have one in stock. I finally just gave up.
We did have to back off of producing the original aluminum framed Stinger for a bit because of the ambiguity of the new ATF regulations that went into effect in August. However, our most recent conversation with them was positive, and I believe that we are presently ordering some new aluminum frames to be put into production and eventual distribution.
I could recommend it. It is nice to get started on a firearm that teaches the basics, so something with a traditional hammer and manual safety is a good one. But do be aware that it is tricky at first to load/unload without flagging others in the process. I recommend watching the video we posted a while back on how to load and unload them at the range as its slightly more complicated than loading a revolver.
I call my Bond Arms, "Potato Chip" because when I take it to the range, I can't stop shooting it - like eating potato chips out of a bag. When I carry the 45 Colt, I purposefully only carry a minimum of ammo because I'm afraid I'd shoot up all my $2 bullets. Thanks for the Stinger, I'm getting one just so I can shoot it more without breaking the bank. Thanks for a great product.
I have a total of 3 bond arms derringers and more barrels then I care to mention here. Please please make a model of this stinger without the trigger guard.
Bonds are addictive little things! But, no, we are not going to do a stinger without the trigger guard. It's such a thin design that the trigger guard actually absorbs some of the shock of the 9mm or .380ACP.
@@BondArmsInc dang. Thanks for the reply though. Also I’m really glad to see y’all active back on TH-cam. I think I’ll just have to buy me another mini in 45
@@BondArmsInc I currenly own two. My heavier Mini chambered in 45 colt is without the trigger guard and is a truly sexy piece! The other is the gun that you displayed and it is very light and concealable. Keep up the great work! 👍
I just don't see this being chambered in anything more stout than a 9mm. The entire firearm is only 12oz due to the aluminum frame, and the grips allow for 2 fingers at most. Recoil gets unmanageable quickly. But we do offer 10mm and .40 in any of our hand cannon barrels. You could get yourself a Texas Defender or a Roughneck, and put your own 10mm barrel on it. It wouldn't be quite as thin or light as our Stinger, but it will be shoot-able.
@@philipdove1705 No disrespect intended, but have you shot the Stinger in 9mm yet? We named it "Stinger" for the recoil, and the man who test fired and named it has put over 40,000 rounds down our range just from our firearms. If he says 9mm is as stout as we need to chamber, I'm prone to believe him. Then, there is another issue, and that is the matter of barrel width and safety. The Stinger barrels are 13mm wide for all calibers we chamber. So, when we drill out the chamber for a 9mm that has pressure ratings of 35,000, there is 1.535mm of steel containing that pressure at the weakest point on the barrel (the base diameter on the cartridge). Chambering a 10mm or .40 requires drilling a 10.81mm hole in the chamber vs a 9.94mm hole, and that leaves less than 1.1mm of steel containing a pressure that is equal to (and often exceeding) that of the 9mm's. So, now we are talking about a barrel that could potentially blow out upon firing it because the steel isn't thick enough to contain the pressure. If we ever go down the road of exploring the .40 or 10mm in the Stinger, we will firstly have some major stress-testing on the barrels to ensure safety. After that, we have to consider marketability and potential sales of a chambering that might be really unpopular because it might be too much recoil for 99% of folks out there. Thanks for asking and continuing the conversation! I really enjoy the feedback from our fans and exploring new possibilities...even if they don't work out in the end.
@@BondArmsIncthat makes sense I guess I didnt realize how thin the stinger was thanks for all the feedback. I have many years of enjoying the Texas defender in 357 mag. Spending a lot of time in bear country I was always hoping to see bond make a smaller thinner lighter design like the remington model 95 style chambered in the popular 10mm.
@@philipdove1705 It's my pleasure to chat with you anytime. If you have any other questions, and I can't get to you timely, feel free to call our customer service department at 817-573-4445. He have actual humans who answer the phone!
The manual crossbolt safety can be locked in either the on or off position by placing the safety in the desired position, and then tightening down the SLD (safety locking device) using the provided Allen wrench, turning the screw clockwise until it is tight amd does not allow the crossbolt safety to move until released by the SLD.
I wonder if anyone has anyone has ever developed a miniature ramrod with a ring attached or double quick strips with miniature ramrod attached to facilitate quicker unloading of spent shells in a derringer, particularly for the ones chambered for rimless cartridges? Should be epic...
I will talk to folks and find out what the issue is. I know on the Stinger RS barrels it is because we can't make the RS fast enough to keep up with demand. But I'm not sure about the original Stinger. I'll find out.
@Phillip Nelms Unfortunately not. There is a "hump" for lack of a better term that we had to put on the Stinger barrel because it didn't have a steel breechface. The RS does not have the hump. They won't open properly when mixed up, so they are incompatible.
I recently purchased a Bond Arms Roughneck Derringer and I love it...like firing a tiny canon! Quality like no other! Highly recommend these firearms to everyone
Thanks! We appreciate the enthusiasm!
I see that you added the 22 magnum to the Honeybee model, I'm looking for the 22 magnum in the SL model because it is a lot lighter for concealed carry, when will you be adding the 22 magnum to the SL model?
We have run into some manufacturing issues with the SL model, and so it will be a bit before we get to release more calibers.
I own one in 380 acp and I carry it on the go, daily. Super light and very concealable.
Glad to hear it sounds like you enjoy it!
@@BondArmsInc Many, thanks. So I also own a Mini. So just wondering if any and every interchangeable barrel is compatible for that Derringer or what-not?
Thanks.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 Yes. Stinger barrels won't fit, but we not selling them as accessory barrels yet because they are so new. So, anything you see on the website will work from 2.5" all the way up to 6" and many, many caliber options.
@@BondArmsInc Many thanks, again. 🙏
The Stinger and Roughneck bring Bond Arms into the 2020s. Attacking the weight/size *and* the price point took a lot of courage, and I will definitely reward you for it when I find a 38 Special. I can see you took the P365 as a call to action.
Actually, the inspiration behind the Rough series was the Wrangler. Gordon realized how much we spend on polishing between materials and manpower, and so our Rough and Tumble finish was born and it took off! As for the size and weight issue, we had been working on that prior to the release of the P365 (which IS a fine weapon). We just shipped out a bunch of 38Spl, so you should be seeing them soon!
@@BondArmsInc The backup gun market is a tough market. People want smaller, lighter, and lower prices as if that's simple. I prefer backup guns over extra magazines, but it's an expensive preference.
The brilliance of the Roughneck series to me is that normally it's actually hard to show people what forged metal out of a steel mill looks like.
@@BondArmsInc The Stinger RS makes the Derringer a modern pocket gun to me. The Stinger makes the Derringer a 21st century anywhere gun to me. Ankle, lanyard, pocket, bra, anywhere.
I categorize mouse guns based on their caliber. 38 and 9mm is where you have a solider advantage with the Stinger and RS. The only competitor in size for the 9mm is the Diamondback DB9, and for 38 Spl you have a $300-400 price advantage of the 642 or 351pd, not even considering the holster tumor of a revolver.
Don't feel pressured to move up in caliber. The weight and size are meant to be appreciated for what the ammo manufacturers can make the smaller calibers deliver in the 2020s. Even stout 9mm is a lot to get a follow up shot with at 11 oz. Don't feel pressured to offer 10 mm just to make people laugh.
@@jameslooker4791 Thanks! Yeah, since derringers are already a niche market, we can't really cowtow to the few who want unrealistic calibers in frames that are way too lightweight.
Hay Gordon great job on the video thats a cool looking gun
Much appreciated!
I don’t have the Stinger, but I do have the Texan. I really do like it
Mechanically they are identical, but that Texan is WAY bigger! Glad you like it.
When will Bond arms start selling separate barrels for the stinger derringer? It's been awhile since I purchased my stinger.
I'm sorry, but we don't have a date on that yet. There have been some significant changes at the shop, and we have to fulfill the demand for firearms before manufacturing barrels as accessory purchases.
@@BondArmsInc Thanks for getting back to me! 🙋
Hello, I have the roughneck in 357/38 love it mainly shoot 38 or shell shot in. Also just purchase the stinger in 9mm am wondering if I can order the 380 barrel for it from Bond arms? As the 9mm is a handful to shoot.
We haven't really pushed out replacement barrels on the Stinger line yet to the dealers, but if you call us at 817-573-4445, customer service can probably help you out. We will have the barrel replacements soon, just haven't had demand yet.
@@BondArmsInc wow thanks for getting back to me so fast! Really love your Bond arms derringers.
Just got my Stinger RS. My new 9mm pocket gun, something I can always carry!
Glad to hear that! They're a handful, but great to conceal.
Can I mount an extractor like on my Roughneck? Also in. 38 special what is a decent grain of bullet? Great products, thank you.
You don't need to mount an extractor as we already put extractors on all barrels that fire rimmed ammo. The 38Spl would be one of those. If you're talking about 9mm or 380ACP, an extractor won't do anything as there is no lip on the brass for the extractor to push on.
I encourage you to research rimmed vs rimless ammo as that is the critical factor on whether an extractor will work or not.
Have you tested the 9mm cci shell shot and or a 9mm incendiary rounds in the aluminum barrel?
Ah...I think you may be misled. The frame of the gun is aluminum, but the barrel is steel.
I’ve got the Roughneck and the Rowdy. I wonder if it’s really a six month wait for a barrel?
Try Bucksnort Outfitters. I believe they have some in stock. If not, call us at 817-573-4445, and we will see who has them in your area.
Are they available at dealers now. I have been checking with my Local dealers for over a year now and no one seems to ever have one in stock. I finally just gave up.
We did have to back off of producing the original aluminum framed Stinger for a bit because of the ambiguity of the new ATF regulations that went into effect in August. However, our most recent conversation with them was positive, and I believe that we are presently ordering some new aluminum frames to be put into production and eventual distribution.
If Bond makes it then it is quality.
Yes sir!
Id love one of these little suckers. Would you recommend these for a relatively new shooter?
I could recommend it. It is nice to get started on a firearm that teaches the basics, so something with a traditional hammer and manual safety is a good one. But do be aware that it is tricky at first to load/unload without flagging others in the process. I recommend watching the video we posted a while back on how to load and unload them at the range as its slightly more complicated than loading a revolver.
I call my Bond Arms, "Potato Chip" because when I take it to the range, I can't stop shooting it - like eating potato chips out of a bag. When I carry the 45 Colt, I purposefully only carry a minimum of ammo because I'm afraid I'd shoot up all my $2 bullets. Thanks for the Stinger, I'm getting one just so I can shoot it more without breaking the bank. Thanks for a great product.
That's a great story! I'll be sure to tell Gordon. He will get a kick out of it!
I have a total of 3 bond arms derringers and more barrels then I care to mention here. Please please make a model of this stinger without the trigger guard.
Bonds are addictive little things! But, no, we are not going to do a stinger without the trigger guard. It's such a thin design that the trigger guard actually absorbs some of the shock of the 9mm or .380ACP.
@@BondArmsInc dang. Thanks for the reply though. Also I’m really glad to see y’all active back on TH-cam. I think I’ll just have to buy me another mini in 45
@@BondArmsInc I currenly own two. My heavier Mini chambered in 45 colt is without the trigger guard and is a truly sexy piece! The other is the gun that you displayed and it is very light and concealable.
Keep up the great work! 👍
Do they make a 40 s&w or 10mm barrel option?
I just don't see this being chambered in anything more stout than a 9mm. The entire firearm is only 12oz due to the aluminum frame, and the grips allow for 2 fingers at most. Recoil gets unmanageable quickly. But we do offer 10mm and .40 in any of our hand cannon barrels. You could get yourself a Texas Defender or a Roughneck, and put your own 10mm barrel on it. It wouldn't be quite as thin or light as our Stinger, but it will be shoot-able.
@@BondArmsInc I think a 40 would be manageable in the lightweight. And a 10 in the heavier steel stinger
@@philipdove1705 No disrespect intended, but have you shot the Stinger in 9mm yet? We named it "Stinger" for the recoil, and the man who test fired and named it has put over 40,000 rounds down our range just from our firearms. If he says 9mm is as stout as we need to chamber, I'm prone to believe him.
Then, there is another issue, and that is the matter of barrel width and safety. The Stinger barrels are 13mm wide for all calibers we chamber. So, when we drill out the chamber for a 9mm that has pressure ratings of 35,000, there is 1.535mm of steel containing that pressure at the weakest point on the barrel (the base diameter on the cartridge). Chambering a 10mm or .40 requires drilling a 10.81mm hole in the chamber vs a 9.94mm hole, and that leaves less than 1.1mm of steel containing a pressure that is equal to (and often exceeding) that of the 9mm's. So, now we are talking about a barrel that could potentially blow out upon firing it because the steel isn't thick enough to contain the pressure.
If we ever go down the road of exploring the .40 or 10mm in the Stinger, we will firstly have some major stress-testing on the barrels to ensure safety. After that, we have to consider marketability and potential sales of a chambering that might be really unpopular because it might be too much recoil for 99% of folks out there.
Thanks for asking and continuing the conversation! I really enjoy the feedback from our fans and exploring new possibilities...even if they don't work out in the end.
@@BondArmsIncthat makes sense I guess I didnt realize how thin the stinger was thanks for all the feedback. I have many years of enjoying the Texas defender in 357 mag. Spending a lot of time in bear country I was always hoping to see bond make a smaller thinner lighter design like the remington model 95 style chambered in the popular 10mm.
@@philipdove1705 It's my pleasure to chat with you anytime. If you have any other questions, and I can't get to you timely, feel free to call our customer service department at 817-573-4445. He have actual humans who answer the phone!
Can you lock the saftey off ?
The manual crossbolt safety can be locked in either the on or off position by placing the safety in the desired position, and then tightening down the SLD (safety locking device) using the provided Allen wrench, turning the screw clockwise until it is tight amd does not allow the crossbolt safety to move until released by the SLD.
Are those available in 22 magnum
No...22WMR is a whole other animal.
I wonder if anyone has anyone has ever developed a miniature ramrod with a ring attached or double quick strips with miniature ramrod attached to facilitate quicker unloading of spent shells in a derringer, particularly for the ones chambered for rimless cartridges? Should be epic...
Not that I've seen. Most folks can use their fingernails without much effort.
I just picked one up.
Nice! You'll have to let us know what you think after you fire it.
@@BondArmsInc I shot it yesterday, it was loads of fun and felt like shooting a hammer.
Pretty cool.
Indeed!
Please start selling the stinger barrel. Please
I will talk to folks and find out what the issue is. I know on the Stinger RS barrels it is because we can't make the RS fast enough to keep up with demand. But I'm not sure about the original Stinger. I'll find out.
@@BondArmsInc does the stinger and stinger Ra have the same barrels. Can you interchange the rs barrels with the aluminum frame stinger?
@Phillip Nelms Unfortunately not. There is a "hump" for lack of a better term that we had to put on the Stinger barrel because it didn't have a steel breechface. The RS does not have the hump. They won't open properly when mixed up, so they are incompatible.