He is old school just based on the sound of his snare. It isn't cranked way up like a lot of marching snares are these days. A sound I remember, and like, from my own marching days, Purple Lancers, Auburn NY, 1967-1974. The other thing is not as much an emphasis on speed. I could actually make out what rudiments he was playing most of the time. The other - not so much. Everything was a blur.
first guy is Charlie Poole. Taught the 27th Lancers in the 70s and till 86 when they folded. Won many individual titles. Marched Boston Crusaders in the 60s
@Bugay Den he is the very last one. He is very good too. He played in the blue devils drum line when he was only 12! ||| th-cam.com/video/H0_OkH30BXA/w-d-xo.html
It doesn’t matter who you think is better it’s inspirational as a drummer to see all diffrent generations do snare drummers in the same room and they show how much drumming has changed from them to know with technology or anything
Love the performance by Charlie Poole. Everything is so old school and simple. No flashy visuals, leading into every other measure with a 5/7 stroke, that good stroke everything thing out technique, rudiments played great. Love it. I'm a student of Marty Hurley so my influences may be talking but I enjoyed it.
I believe Marty Hurley, was a member of the budget Sacrament golden knights, who Bobby Thompson taught for many years, the Golden Nights at one of the best drum lines ever any activity. I was fortunate enough to compete against the Blessed Sacrament golden knights when I was a snare drama with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York. We never beat them in, drum execution, we beat almost every Drumline in exposure to era, we were playing switch rudiments back then very few if any drumlines playing them. Also our hornline triple tongue, very few Common People course did that as well, our brass Ranger, was, Hy dreitzer, the best arranger at that time in the country considered by many to be the best ever. Our brass quartet in 1960, beat the st. Kevin's Emerald Knights by 10 points, at that time they held the national champion, horn quartet, a week after they won the championship, Floyd Bennett for that first time ever competing in quartet beat them by 10 points. Our very first year in competition we defeated many of the well-recognized drum and bugle Corps. Our very first ever want you moving competition we took first place, our second competition was that Garfield Invitational, I believe it came in second to last beating St Lucy's Cadets. In my opinion our support management at no experience in the activity, we did not practice, before a competition, or getting to competitions on-time last-minute stuff. That was our weak point, with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles, great instructors, but our support team at no experience in the activity whatsoever, they kind of treated us just like we're getting ready for parade. When I joined the sun rises in 1964, I realized all the competitions we may have one or came close to winning, but due to our lack of experience, in the activity cost us several competitions. Don't get me wrong that we support team with fantastic. As a member of the Long Island sunrises we practice hard we worked hard and we won many competitions, leading up to the first national championship in 1968 in New Orleans Louisiana. Today is May 18th 2023.
All were great. I liked Charlie Poole best. Nothing fancy, no stick tricks, just great drumming. Plus the drum had better volume. I think he is in my age group too.
Charles Poole is about real rudimental drumming, has nothing to do with age. He's not into tricks, juggling and being a clown. In my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest activities between United States and Canada. Thousands of drum and bugle Corps have fell by the wayside. They turned the activity into a marching band competition superimposed on a three-ring circus.
@@americanspirit8932 well that’s an opinion. Personally I think dci and these new groups have helped modernize drumming and expand it. The tricks and the new snare builds and sound are apart of the newer era of drumming. If anything performing and mastering tricks while playing complex rhythms shows that you have skill and adds to the visual aspect of drumming.
@@americanspirit8932 are you mad that it also has a visual aspect as well? Drumming has not dwindled in musicality at all. Look at the recently lines and their music. Then look at the stick tricks they do. Barely any. You realize millions STILL watch drum corps right? Just because you throw a fit over the sport evolving and you not doesn't mean others aren't following along. I can't with these blind old heads
@@americanspirit8932 honestly I think its MORE musical now! A bunch of Charlie's solo was the same tempo, a bunch of 16ths with crazy stickings and rudiments. Dude new lines are insane. Like Blue coats this season, they had a seventhlet in 6, you know how hard that is? And how nice it sounds? Then SCV's writing is just beautiful. They are constantly adding new times as well as new sounds. I've seen 5:3, 7:6, 8:9, Fivelets fit into the spacings of triplet putaduhs. Brandon's solo constantly flexed in musicality, constantly bringing it up in dynamics and down. Bumping up the tempo and slowing it down. Effortlessly pulling off some rudiments and stickings that Charlie had and even better! Drum corps is evolving, stop being blind and appreciate the evolution of music
Is no one going to talk about Brandon’s single chops?? Like holy crap... I really like how versatile his solo was too. The first guy was also incredible, his snare sounded different from snares today but I actually liked it idk what it is.
I believe if Poole would have been using a different/tight snare,it would have really made the difference for what he done.IMO the 3rd guy had the best which I was surprised with considering ScoJoh was there & I figured he would take the win.
I like the old school feel of the first gentleman. It’s funny how this type of knowledge trickles down... Especially since he was using “System Blue ScoJos” with ScoJo right behind him. 3 seasons or so ago, the drum line captain, tenor and baseline captain for The Blue Devils came from my roots and the line I marched snare in some 15-20 years prior in high school! Really these types of players have such a huge impact on so many lives and can be traced back like a drummer lineage.
Poole is way more of my style but also this just proves that I am still not very good at snare after 23 years. My students think I have godlike rudimental ability but that’s just them not realizing what is possible.
Yeah,Beckham is a beast but he marched 1981 27th lancers and apparently they were trash according to some folks here. Sarcasm btw. Lol. Beckham is old skool but he can play literally anything.
One thing I know for sure, the older generation drummers are definitely proud and confident in the new generation of drummers. Can't really say much for everyone else though.
I had no idea this was a thing (PASIC 2018). These folks have been doing this for a long time. Some longer than others. All of them are skilled in their craft. I listen to all sorts of music. All the drummers, guitar players, keys, vocals, bassist, have their own techniques from their background and influences. It is so clear that the same goes for the marching snare. Everyone has their own unique sound. Love it
Charlie Poole is legend. Great to see him playing. I've seen Scojo have better days on the drum, but his enthusiasm while watching the other players really shows his genuine joy and enthusiasm for the craft. Prosprie's still got the chops, but the antics can go. Casey was freaking impeccable, as indicated by the fact that he's the only one who managed to bring a smile to Charlie's face. If you want to see Brandon at full-length look up the vid for 2019 DCI Snare Champion. TOTAL beast.
…you can’t get there in without years of practice. Scott is most inspiring veteran. Honestly others guys also blow me away. It’s gonna take a lot of work to get there….
@@TopDrumCorps From what I know (which isn't much), he did place 6th in 1994 or so (people more well-versed: please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something!)
@@denesisdelcorockschool3074 They literally ALL sounded like complete trash compared to the insane drumming of today. My highschool could sound better than any snareline before 1990
Lol!! I think at least four of the drummers in this video would disagree with your statement. Do you think Scott Johnson would say "yeah,when I marched blue devils in 1977 we sounded like trash just like all the lines at the time. Haha. If you think a high school snare line could play the books of lancers,bd,Santa clara,spirit of atlanta,bridgeman,etc from back in the day you are smoking some good shit. Sons of liberty in the 60's! we're poss clean. FAct! The modern lines are amazing but don't discount the best lines from the 70's and 80's.Some of the best players on the planet Played in those lines. To this day Robbie Robinson could crush nearly any drummer alive today. Brandon,casey,brice, all gifted drummers but if think Rob Carson couldn't play their stuff is insane. He invented half the stuff they play! Sigh.wtf?
denesis delcorockschool I meant C L E A N. By the way, my high school has one of the top drum lines in the world, one of the best marimba players who played SCV for 3 years came from here. Either way, the stuff they played back then isn’t nearly as hard or as clean as modern DCI. It’s still more complex than modern high school music, but nowhere near as clean. What even are you credentials?
1. ScoJo’s face is the best. 2. This is a great video of the stark divide between generations of marching drumming. Like watching a telegraph, a telephone, and an iPhone in a museum.
The first gentleman told the best stories his solos were understandable and they were phrased well... IT SWUNG HARD like Jazz in my opinion....everyone else was amazing and theatrical....understood! But the first cat made the most sense to me of them all! Groovy....
Charles Poole, is a real rudimental drummer. The others really don't display that skill at all, they are more interested in visuals, juggling, by the English. Charles pool, by far the best rudimental drummer.
@@americanspirit8932 You may want to think that, but Charlie’s playing was not very clean and the other performances were far more impressive and showed much more dedication to the craft than some simple rudiments
@@americanspirit8932 Stick tricks and visuals does not mean they are not a "Real Rudimental Drummer." You can like the old style, but just because you like it more. Doesn't mean you have to bash modern players. As a matter of fact, Fred Sanford had his members perform visuals back in the 70's when he taught SCV. That style that Charles and everyone else from his time in DCI used is what built up modern Rudimental Drummer. Including visuals.
First and last were my fav. For me drums and percussion are about rhythm. I want to feel the beat, and they both had a theme of musicality that brought them above. They were all amazing, way better than I could hope to be without a whole ton of passion and commitment. At this high level, kinda everyone has the techniques down, I believe it becomes personal preference that starts to really set people apart.
That's because he is a real rudimental drummer, has nothing to do with age. John dowling, was a friend of mine, may he rest in peace. He was the person responsible for developing back sticking, that is still being used today.
All of them were incredible and their styles were so different that I wouldn't even want to compare them. So if you ask me who I enjoyed the most, I'd simply answer "all of them".
C O usually in marching band for snares they use Kevlar drum heads because they’re more durable and they’re louder. Also it for judges and audiences in stadiums it’s more clear to what the line is playing
Ist gentlemen was my style of snare drummer! Playing a snare solo on a Rogers Dynasonic snare drum. Old school. Love to here him on my early 70's Slingerland TDR 100. I never liked the popcorn machines. Cheers!
I don't play drums, but I'm so impressed by these talented people that keep these bands in rythym and beat. Without them, bands all over the world wouldn't be the same.
In every marching ensemble you are taught to never listen to the drumline because 1. They are too far away and sound takes time to travel 2. They play very complex stuff as you can see and it makes getting time from it difficult
Always got a soft spot for Jeff Queen. My instructor from high school knew him and he came and played with us at our hs percussion ensemble one year, 2003 or 4.
I played with him during a clinic with the Blue Coats, very cool guy. He was also one of my favorites from Blast, the Broadway show, which btw is the exact piece he played in this clip(from the drum battle if you want to look it up)
That's what real drumming is all about, not like these marching bands today superimpose on the three ring circus, juggling head bobbing, Rim shots of the yin-yang.
Was a band kid in the 70's- Ludwig and NARD solos were our standards back in the day. Did Solo N Ensemble, Select Band, marching band. Agree Charlie is closest to the old school drumming. But times change, tricks have become part of the repertoire. Regardless, I love all these drummers- great trad grip and RH/LH rebound!!!
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it definitely is physically legal (the fact you saw it makes it legal lol) and there are tutorials on how to do it, it's called Casey Claw (named after Mark Casey not Casey Brohard lol)
Who did Jeff Queen win with? Also, Casey Brohard has not lost one ounce of hands since 06. You can tell just by lookin at ScoJo that he's got some very, VERY fond memories of the 03-06 line
I’m here because some wanker gave my 5 yr old grandson a $30 drum set and well, someone else suggested I show him what a drummer sounds like. Thank you GG
Daniel Lee I’ve always loved ScoJo and his career is the stuff of legend, but I have to agree that’s the first time I didn’t love something he played. It was still super chop-sy, but he just didn’t seem on his game. Nobody’s perfect, I guess. Hell, that guy forgets more licks in a day than I’ll ever learn. One thing I really liked, though, was the sound of those two Pearls. After nearly 30 years, that design still rocks out. I want to like the Natals, but they just don’t seem to cut like either the Pearl or Yamaha models.
This is what I constantly work on its all about the hands fingers and wrist for arms control if you can master any snare drum I prefer with mic's then you can definitely master a coustom rigg 8 piece drumset with mic's in any sound inviroment acoustically
what i think im doing on my practice pad at 3am
If I was playing a pad at 3 am my family would kill me
@@duston1649i use my knees as a practice pad when i dont have one on me
the first guy's technique is amazing. you can't beat the old school finesse.
Yes!!!!!! I feel you on That one
Yeah I'm not always impressed with the stick twirling. I don't think a drummer has to be a juggler to be good at their craft
He is old school just based on the sound of his snare. It isn't cranked way up like a lot of marching snares are these days. A sound I remember, and like, from my own marching days, Purple Lancers, Auburn NY, 1967-1974.
The other thing is not as much an emphasis on speed. I could actually make out what rudiments he was playing most of the time. The other - not so much. Everything was a blur.
...at least his snare doesn't sound like constant farts.
first guy is Charlie Poole. Taught the 27th Lancers in the 70s and till 86 when they folded. Won many individual titles. Marched Boston Crusaders in the 60s
Charlie Poole just sitting there with that look of "I've seen it all before boys", is the best bit of this video
When Casey Brohard was done, watch Poole's face. He was definitely impressed
😂I know right
yea lmao
Casey brohard was my favorite. One because his piece was fantastic. Second because his last name is brohard.
Ryan Cox hello.
Lolol
Matthew Grover Casey Brohard is our high school marching band drum tech smh no wonder our drum line is so fire
Yeah, he has the best flow. The other guys work felt so choppy every Time they transition into a new section
He grooves on that snare like crazy
I forgot I had the video on 2x speed and I was like... DAYUMM..
Yo I tried that shit. I’m partially blind now from trying to keep up
😂
I love Poole showing up with the Vintage Rogers snare! CLASSIC!
Rogers Dynasonic. From my era.
Much more challenging to play than the other snares as well. It doesn't just throw the stick back at you.
@@Carlo24515 been thinking about getting one or a ludwig just for building a foundation
The fact that Brandon Olander has become a household name in my house full of drummers is reflected in this video
firkinjackanapes his hands have seen better days
Yee Haw what...?
Wesley Mannino my bad I replyed to the wrong comment, I was talking about Scott Johnson
Yee Haw ah! Ok agreed haha Brandon’s were outstanding I was like “huh” 😂
I got to meet him, he techs at a school in arizona and he was at the same band comp as me
Why am I here? I don’t even play the drums. Yet here everyone is voting on the best drummer. Who are these people???
Well you got Brandon Olander who plays for the blue devils and has scoliosis.
Radiated [Line Rider] Which one is he?
@Bugay Den he is the very last one. He is very good too. He played in the blue devils drum line when he was only 12! ||| th-cam.com/video/H0_OkH30BXA/w-d-xo.html
@@off_brand_water9300 correction...he played "with" the blue devils at 12. It was a few years later before he actually made the corps.
Jaysen Gill | true true
It doesn’t matter who you think is better it’s inspirational as a drummer to see all diffrent generations do snare drummers in the same room and they show how much drumming has changed from them to know with technology or anything
You can see Scojo's look of approval for Casey. too bad we couldn't see his face during Brandon. (What a composition!)
I saw scojo's look through all those that played . They were all looking for one another to just make one little mistake just to say " I got ya" .
popeye sailor Heck yeah! I can see his playing has really improved even since his championship days
Love the performance by Charlie Poole.
Everything is so old school and simple. No flashy visuals, leading into every other measure with a 5/7 stroke, that good stroke everything thing out technique, rudiments played great. Love it.
I'm a student of Marty Hurley so my influences may be talking but I enjoyed it.
I believe Marty Hurley, was a member of the budget Sacrament golden knights, who Bobby Thompson taught for many years, the Golden Nights at one of the best drum lines ever any activity. I was fortunate enough to compete against the Blessed Sacrament golden knights when I was a snare drama with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles from Brooklyn New York. We never beat them in, drum execution, we beat almost every Drumline in exposure to era, we were playing switch rudiments back then very few if any drumlines playing them. Also our hornline triple tongue, very few Common People course did that as well, our brass Ranger, was, Hy dreitzer, the best arranger at that time in the country considered by many to be the best ever. Our brass quartet in 1960, beat the st. Kevin's Emerald Knights by 10 points, at that time they held the national champion, horn quartet, a week after they won the championship, Floyd Bennett for that first time ever competing in quartet beat them by 10 points. Our very first year in competition we defeated many of the well-recognized drum and bugle Corps. Our very first ever want you moving competition we took first place, our second competition was that Garfield Invitational, I believe it came in second to last beating St Lucy's Cadets. In my opinion our support management at no experience in the activity, we did not practice, before a competition, or getting to competitions on-time last-minute stuff. That was our weak point, with the Floyd Bennett golden eagles, great instructors, but our support team at no experience in the activity whatsoever, they kind of treated us just like we're getting ready for parade. When I joined the sun rises in 1964, I realized all the competitions we may have one or came close to winning, but due to our lack of experience, in the activity cost us several competitions. Don't get me wrong that we support team with fantastic. As a member of the Long Island sunrises we practice hard we worked hard and we won many competitions, leading up to the first national championship in 1968 in New Orleans Louisiana. Today is May 18th 2023.
Woah... Casey’s still got it. I remember hearing that solo when I was young and it still holds up.
my man jeff prosperie look like the highschool quarterback who picked up percussion as a sad broken man
he looks like he coaches peewee football
@@jvogler_art4708 honestly he looks like a guy that plays snare drum on the weekends....
Just watching Scott Johnson and Charlie Poole’s faces is great
truly the greatest pla- percussionists
All were great. I liked Charlie Poole best. Nothing fancy, no stick tricks, just great drumming. Plus the drum had better volume. I think he is in my age group too.
If he’s your age group that’s automatically let’s me know that you have a bias
Charles Poole is about real rudimental drumming, has nothing to do with age. He's not into tricks, juggling and being a clown. In my opinion DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest activities between United States and Canada. Thousands of drum and bugle Corps have fell by the wayside. They turned the activity into a marching band competition superimposed on a three-ring circus.
@@americanspirit8932 well that’s an opinion. Personally I think dci and these new groups have helped modernize drumming and expand it. The tricks and the new snare builds and sound are apart of the newer era of drumming. If anything performing and mastering tricks while playing complex rhythms shows that you have skill and adds to the visual aspect of drumming.
@@americanspirit8932 are you mad that it also has a visual aspect as well? Drumming has not dwindled in musicality at all. Look at the recently lines and their music. Then look at the stick tricks they do. Barely any. You realize millions STILL watch drum corps right? Just because you throw a fit over the sport evolving and you not doesn't mean others aren't following along. I can't with these blind old heads
@@americanspirit8932 honestly I think its MORE musical now! A bunch of Charlie's solo was the same tempo, a bunch of 16ths with crazy stickings and rudiments. Dude new lines are insane. Like Blue coats this season, they had a seventhlet in 6, you know how hard that is? And how nice it sounds? Then SCV's writing is just beautiful. They are constantly adding new times as well as new sounds. I've seen 5:3, 7:6, 8:9, Fivelets fit into the spacings of triplet putaduhs. Brandon's solo constantly flexed in musicality, constantly bringing it up in dynamics and down. Bumping up the tempo and slowing it down. Effortlessly pulling off some rudiments and stickings that Charlie had and even better! Drum corps is evolving, stop being blind and appreciate the evolution of music
Everyone deserved to be here. All the dad's and that one kid were great
Casey Brohard bringing back the 2005 DCI world championship performance, absolute LEGEND! 🥁
Look there are some talented drummers in the world but there's just something different about Brandon...
😂 you see the guy behind him, he look mad cause he know Brandon won lol
Because he was a prodigy at such a young age and was all over youtube. Rob Carson was the man back in the day but no one is even mentioning him.
Is no one going to talk about Brandon’s single chops?? Like holy crap... I really like how versatile his solo was too. The first guy was also incredible, his snare sounded different from snares today but I actually liked it idk what it is.
It’s a lower tension snare with Mylar. I love the sound
His paradiddles too 8:07
I believe if Poole would have been using a different/tight snare,it would have really made the difference for what he done.IMO the 3rd guy had the best which I was surprised with considering ScoJoh was there & I figured he would take the win.
The performances are awesome , but the face impressions, smiles, laughs and little head movements from Scojo are the real gold. Joy for drumming.🚀
Scojo is the kind of person to remind the teacher that theres homework
Dude.....Casey Bros Hard. Seriously though...machine gun accuracy.
@@jemberbizuneh7998 yeah
@therainman777 srry bro I didn't think of it as boasting but as info about how almost anyone can try to practice this kinda stuff...honestly my bad
They are all excellent teachers but without a doubt and for personal pleasure, I stay with teacher Jeff Prosperie 👏👏👏👏👏
I like the old school feel of the first gentleman. It’s funny how this type of knowledge trickles down... Especially since he was using “System Blue ScoJos” with ScoJo right behind him. 3 seasons or so ago, the drum line captain, tenor and baseline captain for The Blue Devils came from my roots and the line I marched snare in some 15-20 years prior in high school! Really these types of players have such a huge impact on so many lives and can be traced back like a drummer lineage.
Poole is way more of my style but also this just proves that I am still not very good at snare after 23 years. My students think I have godlike rudimental ability but that’s just them not realizing what is possible.
If you want to see a true rudimental Jihadi, look up Rick Beckham
@@xXEvangelXx And Rick was taught by Charlie Poole (the first guy)
@@nsmith996 Beckham is an animal on snare - love to watch him throw it down!
Yeah,Beckham is a beast but he marched 1981 27th lancers and apparently they were trash according to some folks here. Sarcasm btw. Lol. Beckham is old skool but he can play literally anything.
Doesn’t mean your not good there are levels to everything and if you wanna be there then you got to work at it
Brandon is from another planet! Loved them all! Old school and new!!
Interesting, first time I've ever seen Charlie Poole play but he's judge lines I marched several times lol
One thing I know for sure, the older generation drummers are definitely proud and confident in the new generation of drummers. Can't really say much for everyone else though.
I liked the last guy. He had a good sound, played clean, and there was a subtlety about his playing.
thats the dude from the video of the 12 year old kid playing with the Blue Devils
bro that’s brandon olander... you know, the best snare drummer in the world? center snare for the Blue Devils for like 3 years?
@@fl4sh762 Why are all your sentences questions?
i would be lying if i said i watched more drumming than scojo’s facial expressions
2:54 dude was going full death metal blast beat/double kick attack for a moment.
I had no idea this was a thing (PASIC 2018). These folks have been doing this for a long time. Some longer than others. All of them are skilled in their craft.
I listen to all sorts of music. All the drummers, guitar players, keys, vocals, bassist, have their own techniques from their background and influences. It is so clear that the same goes for the marching snare. Everyone has their own unique sound. Love it
When you're humble enough to believe everybody is great, you come to express and not to prove.
Rumor has it the last guy is still playing to this day, he just keeps switching sticks
brandon olander is a legendary chopmaster that aged out this year as center snare for bd and i&e champion
Tf? This is horrible attempt to be funny.
How Gabriel
Jdizzwhompers. Your comment, now that’s funny. Thanks for the laugh
@@GabeT04 what
Charlie Poole is legend. Great to see him playing. I've seen Scojo have better days on the drum, but his enthusiasm while watching the other players really shows his genuine joy and enthusiasm for the craft. Prosprie's still got the chops, but the antics can go. Casey was freaking impeccable, as indicated by the fact that he's the only one who managed to bring a smile to Charlie's face. If you want to see Brandon at full-length look up the vid for 2019 DCI Snare Champion. TOTAL beast.
I’m pretty sure brandon played his 2015 solo in this video
Every drummer should strive to develop the stick control that has been achieved by these guys. Could listen to these guys all day!
…you can’t get there in without years of practice. Scott is most inspiring veteran. Honestly others guys also blow me away. It’s gonna take a lot of work to get there….
Me: *waiting for roger carter to appear*
Roger carter: *doesnt appear*
Did he ever win I&E?
@@TopDrumCorps From what I know (which isn't much), he did place 6th in 1994 or so (people more well-versed: please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something!)
Think this was a champion only invite.
ScoJo is my favorite marching drummer ever. But did it seem like this wasn't his best performance to anyone else?
Yep. He was the sloppiest out of the bunch .
i think his left stick went to far up and that made him mess up, you can see he fixes it when he starts doing the stick clicks
Brandon had the best chops. Super clean and strong
I liked the first guy, Charlie Poole, because it sounded like he was playing a snare drum, not trying to drill through concrete...
SAHBfan the modern marching snare
Yes. Because every snare line back in the day playing on Mylar sounded like crap. Please.
@@denesisdelcorockschool3074 They literally ALL sounded like complete trash compared to the insane drumming of today. My highschool could sound better than any snareline before 1990
Lol!! I think at least four of the drummers in this video would disagree with your statement. Do you think Scott Johnson would say "yeah,when I marched blue devils in 1977 we sounded like trash just like all the lines at the time. Haha. If you think a high school snare line could play the books of lancers,bd,Santa clara,spirit of atlanta,bridgeman,etc from back in the day you are smoking some good shit. Sons of liberty in the 60's! we're poss clean. FAct! The modern lines are amazing but don't discount the best lines from the 70's and 80's.Some of the best
players on the planet Played in those lines. To this day Robbie Robinson could crush nearly any drummer alive today. Brandon,casey,brice, all gifted drummers but if think Rob Carson couldn't play their stuff is insane. He invented half the stuff they play! Sigh.wtf?
denesis delcorockschool I meant C L E A N. By the way, my high school has one of the top drum lines in the world, one of the best marimba players who played SCV for 3 years came from here. Either way, the stuff they played back then isn’t nearly as hard or as clean as modern DCI. It’s still more complex than modern high school music, but nowhere near as clean. What even are you credentials?
Poole went old school with that deep throat marcher. AWESOME!
I went to like this again. It is that good!!
Brandon Olander will go down In the books as the GOAT. He will replace scojo when retires
YES DEFINITELY
@@cristophermora7171 SO WHATS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER?!?!?!?!??!?!
@@glennsnare09 123-45-6789
You make no sense.
@@robmiller817 how so
Lets go Brandon oleander i&e 2015!!
Yes!!
Great job boys
The best drum solos are the guys who can hang out on the snare drum for 10 min. And keep it interesting. Like these guys
It's pretty awesome to see how the styles changed through the decades. All those excerpts are so very reminiscent of the decade they came from.
1. ScoJo’s face is the best.
2. This is a great video of the stark divide between generations of marching drumming. Like watching a telegraph, a telephone, and an iPhone in a museum.
Now I wanna see Chris Drummer, Matt Penland, Tim Jackson, Nick Werth, Sean Vega, Colin McNutt, and Bill Bachman all in the same place.
I liked Brandon Olander the most, I think his performance is the most creative and musical
I think casey brohard had the best hands. Thats just my opinion
the amount of fun that Scott Johnson is having just watching them do their thing is so nice to me :)
You guys are the TOP 1% !
The first gentleman told the best stories his solos were understandable and they were phrased well... IT SWUNG HARD like Jazz in my opinion....everyone else was amazing and theatrical....understood! But the first cat made the most sense to me of them all! Groovy....
Charles Poole, is a real rudimental drummer. The others really don't display that skill at all, they are more interested in visuals, juggling, by the English. Charles pool, by far the best rudimental drummer.
@@americanspirit8932 You may want to think that, but Charlie’s playing was not very clean and the other performances were far more impressive and showed much more dedication to the craft than some simple rudiments
@@eboone Completely WRONG.
@@americanspirit8932 Stick tricks and visuals does not mean they are not a "Real Rudimental Drummer." You can like the old style, but just because you like it more. Doesn't mean you have to bash modern players. As a matter of fact, Fred Sanford had his members perform visuals back in the 70's when he taught SCV. That style that Charles and everyone else from his time in DCI used is what built up modern Rudimental Drummer. Including visuals.
And his drum sounded like a musical instrument
First and last were my fav. For me drums and percussion are about rhythm. I want to feel the beat, and they both had a theme of musicality that brought them above. They were all amazing, way better than I could hope to be without a whole ton of passion and commitment. At this high level, kinda everyone has the techniques down, I believe it becomes personal preference that starts to really set people apart.
Watching the 1st 2 guys watch the 3rd guy is the best part of this video. The Old guys technique is incredible
They’re hands are old and deteriorated, they aren’t as good now as Casey or Brandon
That's because he is a real rudimental drummer, has nothing to do with age. John dowling, was a friend of mine, may he rest in peace. He was the person responsible for developing back sticking, that is still being used today.
I might be wrong but Jeff Queen was under Scott Johnson in SCV. So basically, Jeff, Casey and Brandon were Scott's students.
All of them were incredible and their styles were so different that I wouldn't even want to compare them. So if you ask me who I enjoyed the most, I'd simply answer "all of them".
I loved that first Ludwig snare and it sound.
Nice to hear a snare drum that doesn't sound like a granite countertop ( the first guy anyways)
DeckerCreek do you know what type Brandon was playing ? Yamaha ?
CHRIS ROACH Scojo and Brandon were both using System Blue Snares.
C O usually in marching band for snares they use Kevlar drum heads because they’re more durable and they’re louder. Also it for judges and audiences in stadiums it’s more clear to what the line is playing
I TOTALLY AGREE. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS HE SOUNDED SO AMAZING
PLUS HIS TECHNIQUE IS EXCELLENT.
Charles Campbell agree, if you had a ringing snare sound it will be harder to hear chops and fasting playing, it just won’t be clear.
Charlie Poole is my vote but they are all fantastic!
Ist gentlemen was my style of snare drummer! Playing a snare solo on a Rogers Dynasonic snare drum. Old school. Love to here him on my early 70's Slingerland TDR 100. I never liked the popcorn machines. Cheers!
Scott Johnson looked like a proud dad during Casey Brohard’s performance
Scott Johnson watching Casey and Brandon like a proud father ❤
I loved how at certain moments you can see them be like I gotta try that when I get home.
I couldn't tell - they were all amazing in there own right.
I don't play drums, but I'm so impressed by these talented people that keep these bands in rythym and beat. Without them, bands all over the world wouldn't be the same.
In every marching ensemble you are taught to never listen to the drumline because
1. They are too far away and sound takes time to travel
2. They play very complex stuff as you can see and it makes getting time from it difficult
Some fine playing!
the first guy was definetly that most entertaining to watch
6:22 WHAT WAS THAT?!?!?!
Casey Claw!
Yeah that was insane 😲
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BRO THAT WENT HARD
@@elijahnelson9069 oh yeah yeah
Always got a soft spot for Jeff Queen. My instructor from high school knew him and he came and played with us at our hs percussion ensemble one year, 2003 or 4.
me too. I went to carmel high school and learned from him there for about 2 years. truly an amazing dude
I played with him during a clinic with the Blue Coats, very cool guy. He was also one of my favorites from Blast, the Broadway show, which btw is the exact piece he played in this clip(from the drum battle if you want to look it up)
First guy by far my favourite!
Astounding. This sounds good. Not just chops.
Traditional rudimentary drumming no stick tricks . Love it
That's what real drumming is all about, not like these marching bands today superimpose on the three ring circus, juggling head bobbing, Rim shots of the yin-yang.
@@americanspirit8932 do you teach?
they are all fantastic!!! incredible!!!!! very nice!!!!!
Hell yeah dudes.. Good playing
Was a band kid in the 70's- Ludwig and NARD solos were our standards back in the day. Did Solo N Ensemble, Select Band, marching band. Agree Charlie is closest to the old school drumming. But times change, tricks have become part of the repertoire. Regardless, I love all these drummers- great trad grip and RH/LH rebound!!!
I remember watching Charlie Poole face off against Bob Kalkofen. Awesome.
old man hands has been taken to a new whole level
6:22 bruh is that even physically legal
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it definitely is physically legal (the fact you saw it makes it legal lol) and there are tutorials on how to do it, it's called Casey Claw (named after Mark Casey not Casey Brohard lol)
Leon Chen r/woosh
@@pblount340 kinda, but kinda not as well. schrödinger's woooosh.
No. Absolutely illegal in all 50 states and Canada. It is not bound by logic or physics.
Everyone is off the chart amazing!
Who did Jeff Queen win with? Also, Casey Brohard has not lost one ounce of hands since 06. You can tell just by lookin at ScoJo that he's got some very, VERY fond memories of the 03-06 line
The last guy was the guy...smashes it all to pieces
I’m here because some wanker gave my 5 yr old grandson a $30 drum set and well, someone else suggested I show him what a drummer sounds like. Thank you GG
Scojo plays like a middle schooler who just learned a stick trick. First time i didnt like his playing.
Daniel Lee lmao a middle schooler couldn’t play what he played in a million years😂
These reason why he didn't like it cause it's not the style he plays but it was the style he played back then. Rip
Daniel Lee I’ve always loved ScoJo and his career is the stuff of legend, but I have to agree that’s the first time I didn’t love something he played. It was still super chop-sy, but he just didn’t seem on his game. Nobody’s perfect, I guess. Hell, that guy forgets more licks in a day than I’ll ever learn.
One thing I really liked, though, was the sound of those two Pearls. After nearly 30 years, that design still rocks out. I want to like the Natals, but they just don’t seem to cut like either the Pearl or Yamaha models.
Y’all realize each solo is what they played for I and e back when they were in right?
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Humans are amazing!!!
This is what I constantly work on its all about the hands fingers and wrist for arms control if you can master any snare drum I prefer with mic's then you can definitely master a coustom rigg 8 piece drumset with mic's in any sound inviroment acoustically
If you have a video of 27th lancers in 72 you will hear those Scottish clansmen snares like Charlie is kinda playing hear. Best sounding snares ever.
Yeah guy number one! ...Much respect!
Charlie Poole had a great performance. It was also neat and fascinating to watch him as he watched all the other drummers.
Dude at the end was my fav.
he’s center snare for bd 2019, champion for i&e 2019 and just aged out as a legendary chopmaster.
Uhhhh dude that’s Brandon olander
Well done Charlie! 27 lives in you...
You hit the nail on the head. He was the 27th Lance's Drumline instructor, and they had one of the best all-time drumlines in the country.
Very cool microcosm of DCI drumming through the years... at least thought the lens of I&E Snare solos
Dig it 🤙
7:45. Might be the best one
I think from a rythmic and sound quality consistency standpoint, Brandon O is absolutely out of this world.
scott johnson is very amazing i like his hand technquie
Outstanding!!!!
I like that the first time Charlie Poole looked amused was with Casey brohard he was also only amused with Casey brohard and brandon
I don´t really know anything about these snare drum contests so I looked all the time to the guys in the background to see their reactions ;D
I like the first guy a lot! His technique is amazing! He’s all technique and little tricks!
To be fair you do want some tricks in a solo. You don’t want none and you don’t want too much