There is a movie called How the West Was Won that is basically the long form of this article. There is also a book called Celluloid Indians that talks about many of the topics they discuss in this article. It would be my guess that a combination of those were the source material for this article.
They're called saguaros and mostly they grow only in southern Arizona and Sonora, so they're misplaced in pop culture just as much as Monument Valley...
Also good to point out that John Ford came back multiple times because he wanted to give the indians living there a job. It was very important for him to help them.
Yeah as soon as he said it’s in the Navaho reservation I was prepared to be angry at treatment of the people living there and while the stereotypes aren’t great the fact that the film industry and John ford in particular were able to collaborate with and even help the Navaho people definitely put my feelings in a more positive light
Thanks, I really enjoy your vids. I had not realized just how many movies that one vista inhabits. Growing up on the east coast I had never seen “The Old West”, only some major cities. I now live in Oklahoma and have a better appreciation for wide open spaces... I do miss the sea though. I genuinely appreciate your efforts in research and thoroughness in your work, the entertainment value doesn’t go unnoticed either. So, thank you again. Cheers
I lived in monument Valley for 20 years growing up. It is a beautiful place each sunset is different from the last. How about a story of the Navajo people?
axnyslie funny story, a lot of sergio leone’s movies were inspired by a japanese director, Kurosawa. Kurosawa’s movies were inspired by John Ford, so by extension they kinda mentioned the building blocks for Leone’s movies
@@SimonKanner-si3it Please, don't be racist. Remember that America is not our continent we stole it from Native Americans and you are a combination of cultures as well and your family had to migrate in some moment of history and maybe they were also illegal. I'm not illegal since I will pay for my visa with my own money. I don't know why some Americans feel superior when they can't speak more than two languages. I hope you understood and please if you have complaints, tell them to your boyfriend (Donald Trump). GREETINGS FROM 💚MEXICO❤️ (A PLACE WITH MORE CULTURE THAN WHERE YOU LIVE) 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
@@SimonKanner-si3it Ummmmm, no. There is no such thing as 'too many indians'. And when i was there the Native American people were absolutely lovely. And people from india are lovely too. So maybe dont be racist and be more concerned about actual problems.
A jsut about any non-north american would probably have a heart attaack if you asked them to drive to a place as remote as Monument valley. It's 1100-1200 miles from population centers in the Pacific Northwest, 650 miles from LA/San Diego, 1200 miles from most of Texas, and about 2200+ miles from most of New England.
@@arthas640 there is more to the US than mega cities lol. there are plenty of 100k population cities all around the US which offer almost everything a mega city does. the US is massive though which most foreigners dont understand. there is no 2-4 hour train ride across the country like in some small European or Asian countries.
When I lived in Chicago, movies were always filming in doorways and alleys. I worked in a private club that regularly has movies and TV shows filming in it. My Best Friend's Wedding filmed a scene in the lobby when I worked there.
I’ve been there unfortunately it was snowing during covid and wifi connection is slow or sometimes no signal, be prepared when you visit guys, stay safe!
My family lives in monument valley. The tourism helps a lot financially but its slowing degrading the land and the community that lives there. Tons of businesses come in and tour and don't listen to the locals, the navajo nation government gets a cut so they tend to wish we weren't there. Our families were relocated there when the government took other lands. They built that new hotel there regardless of the community not wanting it there. If you do go, please ask the tour businesses what they contribute to the locals.
Sorry to ask this so long after your original comment - but as someone going to visit soon, do you happen to know of any specific business that are best to avoid or alternatively to patronize, in order to make sure our money is going to enrolled members of Navajo nation?
@Just Wandering it is hard to say. If you ask any of the people who sell jewelry in the valley, they can tell u better. They are usually residents and have direct interactions with the tours. I do not currently live there due to life circumstances but my cousins still sell there regularly. All I remember from spending my summers there that the Crawly tour people are sketchy but I'm not sure if they still have business there. The horse tours are not great, their horses poop up our waters and have changed the ecosystem drastically. I have no issue with the people so jus try to avoid the ones that walk into sand springs. No one should be taking roads marked private. I'm sorry I could not be more specific. Tip your tour guides and make sure to not deface the rocks with carvings nor collect/touch anything from ancestral sites, aka Anasazi. Touching them is taboo. They are not the people's ancestral sites but are other tribes ancestors. DO NOT COLLECT ANYTHING FROM THE AREA. We get thousands of visitors so people taking arrow heads or ancestral artifacts or rocks etc are incredibly harmful.
@@lioncub360 Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to respond! We will absolutely keep all of this in mind and will also do our best to spread the word if any of these circumstances arise when we’re there.
Watching western movies you would believe that the entire old west was a desert waist land.. This is because of John Fords love of filming with Monument Valley for a back drop he set the standard for westerns. Even my favorite TV western" Gunsmoke" has Doge city Kansas and its surroundings looking like a desert instead of a prairie. So many western movies and shows have been filmed in the studio back lot out their in the Mojave desert that I can recognize the same rocks used in a hundred western chase scenes with only the occasional stand of California Eucalyptus trees to give away where they really are.
Monument Valley, with Yosemite nat. Park and California Highway 1 south of Monterey, CA one of my 3 favorite places in the US... (only been to the west coast, listing is not representative, might be subject to changes, all rights reserved)
How did I predict that An American Tail: Fievel Goes West would be featured in this video, even before watching it?! 😂 This movie is one of my favorites ever! ❤️
It's always funny at the beginning of The Searchers when they are talking about numbers of cattle. There's no way that many cattle could survive in that kind of land without a tanker truck full of water every day and almost all the feed would have to be trucked in. The actual place in Texas where the events that inspired The Searchers happened is rich farmland, which is why settlers wanted it, and the Comanche fought so hard to keep it.
But you know, it seems to have some resemblance to the film in this way: the Red River flows from Palo Duro Canyon red rocks, doesn't it? So Monument Valley is a more dramatic, even more awe-inspiring representation of the location. The pioneers living there, emphasizes their vulnerability, at the expense of a little realism. It isn't about the richness of the land they were competing for, but about something else, and being set against a sparer, minimal, though awe-inspiring landscape, helps us not to lose focus.
The fact that Forrest Gump walks in the opposite direction to Alabama just makes it even funnier, I’m sure they realised that when they considered it as well as the great backdrop
I was expecting a little more on the formation of the geological phenomenon. Aren't those ancient volcanos whose shafts remained after the exterior of the volcano eroded away?
You're telling me that the Navajo there actually have control over the use of their land and have a good income from it? In today's America? We really do live in bright and happy times!
When monument valley appears in Back to the Future, its supposed to be a joke. The Delorean drives straight at a movie screen with artwork of charging Indians at monument valley and is transported into that exact scene. Its like Marty and the time machine symbolically went through the screen into a stereotypical Western film.
But there were no stereotypes in history, only real people, living real, human lives. So the movie elevated its opinion of the relative value of the generation it was marketing to, and its shared, Hollywood and audience point of view, compared to all others, by demoting and dismissing the real past to a cliche that can be visited as a cliche. And a Hollywood cliche, at that. That way, it flatters its audience, who are assumed to not bother to think about life beyond what Hollywood presents them.
When i clicked this video, i knew the Ballad of Buster Scruggs is going to appear. if you haven't watched the film yet, do yourself a favor and go watch it.
The silhouettes of those Buttes in Monument Valley are also reminiscent of 3 prominent landmarks on the Oregon Trail, in Nebraska. (Courthouse Rock & Jail Rock, Scott’s Bluff, and Chimney Rock) Monument Valley in Arizona was much closer to Hollywood, and so made for a better filming location than Nebraska.
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How do yall always find those weird but fascinating ideas for videos ?
i would guess suggestions or vox video lab but idk
Probably Wikipedia:Unusual_articles on Wikipedia
@@TheWindowsPCVidsOfficial that wikepedia list
There is a movie called How the West Was Won that is basically the long form of this article. There is also a book called Celluloid Indians that talks about many of the topics they discuss in this article. It would be my guess that a combination of those were the source material for this article.
producers and writers rooms mostly
source: i work for another digital media company
A rock... the pioneers used to ride these babes for miles.
SPONGEBOB REFERENCE !!
Spongebob is boss
Its not a boulder, its a rock. A big, beautiful, rock.
....(about to cry) It's a rock ..
@@corbyere You don't say!
Can you make a video about the iconic cactus that is included in every mexican scene
Could be a legit interesting video given how much of the terrain and plants of Westerns are actually Italian.
They're called saguaros and mostly they grow only in southern Arizona and Sonora, so they're misplaced in pop culture just as much as Monument Valley...
Right? It's the same shape over and over again. 🌵🏜️
Yeah most "Western" scenery and icons actually come from Arizona or Northern Mexico (aka, the Sonoran Desert)
OR INCLUDED IN *EVERY* MEXICAN HOME
Also good to point out that John Ford came back multiple times because he wanted to give the indians living there a job. It was very important for him to help them.
Yeah as soon as he said it’s in the Navaho reservation I was prepared to be angry at treatment of the people living there and while the stereotypes aren’t great the fact that the film industry and John ford in particular were able to collaborate with and even help the Navaho people definitely put my feelings in a more positive light
S.H. K. Umm..?
I was born, raised and reside in Arizona. This state is alot more diverse than monument valley. We have such a diverse landscape, its amazing.
Sedona is great! Love our state.
S.H. K. That’s because it was once Mexico
I live in California. The state is more diverse than Hollywood. But I don't care if people make a video about it.
I’d love to go to Sedona
Time for my daily dose of information I didn't think I needed but needed!
I never really thought of them as a cliche, just as part of the landscape
as a kid i always assumed most of the south west was like this. there are similar formations in Idaho, Utah, and South Dakota.
The West is also where you can catch Lumbago. Very serious.
Yes and it's terminal
Its a slow and painful death
Instructions not clear, I caught tuberculosis instead
It's very serious
Aidan Rogers LOL, particularly after attempting to move said ‘rocks’ 😆
Red dead redemption reminds always these types of rocks red and tall
chetan costa LENNEHH
@@darkless60 GOOD MORNING.. MR
darkless60 LUMBAGO
Yeah, it is great to bring outlaws to Chuparosa jail
Thanks, I really enjoy your vids. I had not realized just how many movies that one vista inhabits. Growing up on the east coast I had never seen “The Old West”, only some major cities. I now live in Oklahoma and have a better appreciation for wide open spaces... I do miss the sea though. I genuinely appreciate your efforts in research and thoroughness in your work, the entertainment value doesn’t go unnoticed either. So, thank you again. Cheers
Oh god, don't tell us your entire life
Jesús Moreno starting a YT channel dedicated just to you my friend, thanks for the idea. I am sure you will love it.
Finally a video about rocks, next bricks.
David Dima ... such s negative personality to make a statement like that .
Wrong channel m8
@@sandycrawford2602 I think he just joking
No, Half as Interesting needs to make it first!
@@sandycrawford2602 🤦♀️🤦♀️it was a joke m8
I lived in monument Valley for 20 years growing up. It is a beautiful place each sunset is different from the last. How about a story of the Navajo people?
Man, this comment section is gonna feel old in a few years.
Morro Cause so many of them are about the Area 51 raid. Something that will be in the Internet Historybooks.
1959: We'll have flying cars and moon bases by the year 2000
2019: Weebs try to storm Area 51...and there aren't any flying cars or moon bases
Yacob Gugsa a weeb watches anime, doesnt storm army bases
"Alabama's in the other direction"
*I'VE BEEN LIED TO!* 😭
Now I know why the people following Forest looked so confused when he said "I'm going home" and started walking the other way.
“You’ve got to be a man before you can be a gentleman” John Wayne
I've been to Monument Valley - very picturesque and a lot of history to boot.
The one obvious omission from the classic Italian spaghetti westerns.
Which have a very "mean" (cruel AND small), focused point of view.
axnyslie funny story, a lot of sergio leone’s movies were inspired by a japanese director, Kurosawa. Kurosawa’s movies were inspired by John Ford, so by extension they kinda mentioned the building blocks for Leone’s movies
Unless you watch Once Upon A Time In The West, then it shows up near the end.
I went to Monumet Valley this summer and it was one of the best places ive ever been in my life so i would definately recommend it
It looks amazing, I'm from Mexico so I think I'll go when I'm 18+ and have my own money for buying my visa, passport, plane, etc.
@@SimonKanner-si3it Please, don't be racist. Remember that America is not our continent we stole it from Native Americans and you are a combination of cultures as well and your family had to migrate in some moment of history and maybe they were also illegal. I'm not illegal since I will pay for my visa with my own money. I don't know why some Americans feel superior when they can't speak more than two languages. I hope you understood and please if you have complaints, tell them to your boyfriend (Donald Trump). GREETINGS FROM 💚MEXICO❤️ (A PLACE WITH MORE CULTURE THAN WHERE YOU LIVE) 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
@@SimonKanner-si3it racist
Alex same
@@SimonKanner-si3it
Ummmmm, no. There is no such thing as 'too many indians'. And when i was there the Native American people were absolutely lovely. And people from india are lovely too. So maybe dont be racist and be more concerned about actual problems.
You guys have some of the best revelations ive never thought about. Keep it up.
0:25 I've always wanted to work in places like this for some reason, wide open places in the middle of nowhere with spectacular view
ive been there and its a beautiful place. every american should drive through there at least once if they get the chance.
A jsut about any non-north american would probably have a heart attaack if you asked them to drive to a place as remote as Monument valley. It's 1100-1200 miles from population centers in the Pacific Northwest, 650 miles from LA/San Diego, 1200 miles from most of Texas, and about 2200+ miles from most of New England.
I’ve been there, it makes the video som much more satisfying when you recognise the rocks and have walked around some
@@arthas640 there is more to the US than mega cities lol. there are plenty of 100k population cities all around the US which offer almost everything a mega city does. the US is massive though which most foreigners dont understand. there is no 2-4 hour train ride across the country like in some small European or Asian countries.
Thanks for this Vox. I’ve really been wondering for a while
When I lived in Chicago, movies were always filming in doorways and alleys. I worked in a private club that regularly has movies and TV shows filming in it. My Best Friend's Wedding filmed a scene in the lobby when I worked there.
These are some seriously Westernized rocks 😀😀😀
I wish this story had included some more of the Navajo perspective.
This is one of the best channels I subscribed to
The Searchers is not only the best westerns ever made, it may very well be one of top 10 films in the history of cinema.
Ballad of Buster Scruggs is very good.
One of the best. However I did not like the story about the magical man with no limbs.
It's amazing and the best thing on Netflix.
What a coincidence! When i opened my computer windows showed me a nice picture of the rock in 0:20
Windows 10 auto wallpapers...I've got the wallpaper few months ago...
Didnt windows 95 have it too?
I’ve been there unfortunately it was snowing during covid and wifi connection is slow or sometimes no signal, be prepared when you visit guys, stay safe!
You guys answer questions i never knew i had
Glad it actually helped the local navajo community. Surprisingly wholesome.
My family lives in monument valley. The tourism helps a lot financially but its slowing degrading the land and the community that lives there. Tons of businesses come in and tour and don't listen to the locals, the navajo nation government gets a cut so they tend to wish we weren't there. Our families were relocated there when the government took other lands. They built that new hotel there regardless of the community not wanting it there. If you do go, please ask the tour businesses what they contribute to the locals.
Sorry to ask this so long after your original comment - but as someone going to visit soon, do you happen to know of any specific business that are best to avoid or alternatively to patronize, in order to make sure our money is going to enrolled members of Navajo nation?
@Just Wandering it is hard to say. If you ask any of the people who sell jewelry in the valley, they can tell u better. They are usually residents and have direct interactions with the tours. I do not currently live there due to life circumstances but my cousins still sell there regularly. All I remember from spending my summers there that the Crawly tour people are sketchy but I'm not sure if they still have business there. The horse tours are not great, their horses poop up our waters and have changed the ecosystem drastically. I have no issue with the people so jus try to avoid the ones that walk into sand springs. No one should be taking roads marked private. I'm sorry I could not be more specific. Tip your tour guides and make sure to not deface the rocks with carvings nor collect/touch anything from ancestral sites, aka Anasazi. Touching them is taboo. They are not the people's ancestral sites but are other tribes ancestors. DO NOT COLLECT ANYTHING FROM THE AREA. We get thousands of visitors so people taking arrow heads or ancestral artifacts or rocks etc are incredibly harmful.
@@lioncub360 Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to respond! We will absolutely keep all of this in mind and will also do our best to spread the word if any of these circumstances arise when we’re there.
Went to Monument Valley last year. It's an incredible place. Take a back country jeep tour too
This truly was fascinating
Now I want to visit this place
I went there last summer. Beautifull place and really nice people.
Vox vídeos are always so elegant, good and i luv them
I loved this video. Thank you for sharing it.
Is it possible to use stills from these movies to monitor the erosion of the formations over the last several decades?
I don’t know why I needed this information but thanx
You need to do one on Vasquez rock.
Thanks for introducing a non-American, non Western-watcher to a beautiful piece of natural Americana. I would love to visit one day.
From Paris, thanks it's an eyeopener, seen it many times in the movies now at least I know where it is and how large an area in encompasses
I loved it how Horizon Zero Dawn also featured this landscape
I have the Road Runner lunchbox. Always wondered where they filmed the Road Runner cartoons. ;)
This is are so so so classic to feel ..
Watching western movies you would believe that the entire old west was a desert waist land.. This is because of John Fords love of filming with Monument Valley for a back drop he set the standard for westerns. Even my favorite TV western" Gunsmoke" has Doge city Kansas and its surroundings looking like a desert instead of a prairie. So many western movies and shows have been filmed in the studio back lot out their in the Mojave desert that I can recognize the same rocks used in a hundred western chase scenes with only the occasional stand of California Eucalyptus trees to give away where they really are.
Great video
Home Sweet Home 😍
I'm a travel vlogger.
definitely going there next year !!
세계를 여행하는 '오늘, 우리' It’s really nothing impressive. The far west is overrated
Ruth Cuadrado If you're never been tho it's cool to see! have fun!
I’ve been there this spring and it was breathtaking !
@@chiaraconti8133 omg!! My heart beats fast after seeing your comments.
@@RuthCuadrado There's a difference of opinion.
I went there last year!! IT WAS SOO SICK!!!
Monument Valley, with Yosemite nat. Park and California Highway 1 south of Monterey, CA one of my 3 favorite places in the US... (only been to the west coast, listing is not representative, might be subject to changes, all rights reserved)
It might be cliche. But man it's beautiful
I really love that place, hope I'll being there one day!
Tnx
I will now go to work and yell out "It's the same rocks in every movie!"
How did I predict that An American Tail: Fievel Goes West would be featured in this video, even before watching it?! 😂 This movie is one of my favorites ever! ❤️
Literally any trivia:
Vox: *adds effervescent orchestrated score for dramatic effect*
It's always funny at the beginning of The Searchers when they are talking about numbers of cattle. There's no way that many cattle could survive in that kind of land without a tanker truck full of water every day and almost all the feed would have to be trucked in. The actual place in Texas where the events that inspired The Searchers happened is rich farmland, which is why settlers wanted it, and the Comanche fought so hard to keep it.
But you know, it seems to have some resemblance to the film in this way: the Red River flows from Palo Duro Canyon red rocks, doesn't it? So Monument Valley is a more dramatic, even more awe-inspiring representation of the location. The pioneers living there, emphasizes their vulnerability, at the expense of a little realism. It isn't about the richness of the land they were competing for, but about something else, and being set against a sparer, minimal, though awe-inspiring landscape, helps us not to lose focus.
The fact that Forrest Gump walks in the opposite direction to Alabama just makes it even funnier, I’m sure they realised that when they considered it as well as the great backdrop
Fascinating.👏🏿
I was stationed on the Navajo Reservation for 6 years in Chinle, AZ.
Home of Canyon du Chelle .
My favourite place
Can you make a video about the popularity of the plastic garden flamingo and why they were invented
Brilliant! Thank you.
0:07, Nice to see you, Dr. Phil.
I was expecting a little more on the formation of the geological phenomenon. Aren't those ancient volcanos whose shafts remained after the exterior of the volcano eroded away?
Interesting video, alexa play old town road.
that alabama indication was epic.
You're telling me that the Navajo there actually have control over the use of their land and have a good income from it? In today's America? We really do live in bright and happy times!
Cause those rocks are awesome
When monument valley appears in Back to the Future, its supposed to be a joke. The Delorean drives straight at a movie screen with artwork of charging Indians at monument valley and is transported into that exact scene. Its like Marty and the time machine symbolically went through the screen into a stereotypical Western film.
But there were no stereotypes in history, only real people, living real, human lives. So the movie elevated its opinion of the relative value of the generation it was marketing to, and its shared, Hollywood and audience point of view, compared to all others, by demoting and dismissing the real past to a cliche that can be visited as a cliche. And a Hollywood cliche, at that. That way, it flatters its audience, who are assumed to not bother to think about life beyond what Hollywood presents them.
It wasn’t just the men, the great and stunning brilliant actress Maureen O’Hara John Ford used again and again.
que lugar para espectacular..... visitarlo es casi obligatorio
To a foreigner they can be anywhere in the west but to a local like myself, they are a symbol of the Navajo Nation and Arizona not Texas. Smh 🤦🏽♂️🙄
When i clicked this video, i knew the Ballad of Buster Scruggs is going to appear.
if you haven't watched the film yet, do yourself a favor and go watch it.
I hope the Navajo benefited a little more over time off the growing film and tourism industry.
Navajo here 🤚🏼 glad to see this on Vox.
I thought this was about the game Monument Valley for a second lol
What's the music at the start of the video?
Please do a video about the "Storm Area 51" phenomenon, it's hilarious
I’ve always wonder why movies that are shot here say they take place in Texas, Texas looks NOTHING like this!
Man does an Epic Naruto run infront of Reporter (13 Action News)
2:15 That is in fact Yakima Canutt JW's stunt double but that doesn't matter.
Thanks for changing the title to Monument Valley, the original title was vague and clickbaity.
Is one of my favorite places I have ever visit is totally alien 👽 to me there is something magical about it
I wasnt aware that most people knew monument valley from westerns, as opposed to just another famous landmark/park
I live out in southern Utah, and I haven’t had a chance to visit yet :(
The Alex
I’ve been there and it’s amazing in person. Kind of surreal.
MR. BIG I hope I can make a trip out there this summer
The silhouettes of those Buttes in Monument Valley are also reminiscent of 3 prominent landmarks on the Oregon Trail, in Nebraska.
(Courthouse Rock & Jail Rock, Scott’s Bluff, and Chimney Rock)
Monument Valley in Arizona was much closer to Hollywood, and so made for a better filming location than Nebraska.
the red sand tho. Nebraska doesn’t have the deep red sand like MV
"Alabama is in the other direction... but it doesn't matter..." hahaha epic...
Man...when you guys arent making obnoxious political videos you make some of the most interesting stuff on TH-cam.
0:51 Thanks for metric
Anyone know the song playing at the start?
Patrick Mumford same
"Wicki-wild wild, Wicki-wicki-wild" - Will Smith
3:16 is the courthouse towers in Arches NP not monument valley
The video ends rather abruptly
Rocks
Welcome to Flavor Country
The fact that vox thought about a back drop and then a video about it and the video was amazing ,,, look that thought amaze me !!!!! Wow vox
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