I agree with this guy. Some traditions are better left in the past. Most of it is unnecessary and just waste time and money. Most hmong people are quick to judge and criticize, but slow to try and understand the real situation as a whole.🤦♂️
The new generations don't understand all the fancy talks anyway. No point of doing it because we don't listen and don't understand the hmong language. I know because I never really pay attention to all of these during my traditional wedding.
It’s all about holding grudges. I swear, a lot of Hmong ppl bring up hella crap during weddings. It has nothing to do with the bride and the groom, but the OG’s be bringing up shit that happens 3 decades ago. Like WTF??? Hmong weddings is not even a pleasant event for the bride and groom. It’s more like a death sentence for the groom from all that alcohol poisoning.
@Khiav Tsisdim dont regret what you say..you will get old and die too so how do you want your funeral to be handle..you cant have your spirit wondering the after life bro..is it going to be ridiculous when you die they just throw your body in the water, come on..explain yourself why is it ridiculous
I agree with you 100%!! This is one reason why I don’t do funerals and weddings no more!!! People just don’t respect you when you say you can’t drink no more!! They’re not the one who’s gona pay for your hospital bills!!! They don’t pay for your tickets nor bail you out in jails!!
Ua tsaug rau koj zaj qhia ua mejkoob mob tag rau peb. Kuv los yeej tsis nyiam qhov uas peb hmoob tsis xaiv qhov zoo los ua es pheej nrhiav tej kev ua mob ua phem haus dej cawv loj muaj mob los tsis tsum li. Twb muaj ntau tus mejkoob muaj mob tag li koj los lawv yeej tsis kam haus cawv me li. Hmoob txoj kev ua tej kev ruam siv dej cawv loj los ua mob no yuav puas rau peb cov laus txawj thiab yuav puas npe rau hmoob yog ib co neeg ruam tsis xaiv qhov zoo los ua. Thiab cov hluas tom ntejbno yuav ntxub hmoob txoj cai nov mus.
Tus tij laug aws, ua tsaug koj coj koj txoj dab neeg tuaj qhia rau peb. Siab xav mas yeej xav kom hmoob hloov but then the 18 Coucil is not doing their job. The 18 Coucil ces tsa lawv tab tom mus quav dej quav cawv xwb es hmoob thiaj hloov tsis laib li es peb cov laus thiaj muaj mob ua luaj
Ua lub ntuj tsaug rau tus kwv tij uas koj txiav tau txim siab tsis ua meej Koob. Vim Peb hmoob poj ua cia yawm ua tseg tiam no tsis ua hauj lwm lawm. Vim hmoob muab dej chawv Siv nyav ua kev puas tshuaj thiab raug nte DUI yuav tsis muaj tus twg pab.
Sim neej no mas kuv ntxub txoj kev cai haus cawv tshaj plaws vim ua 1 npluag noj xws li ua neeb ua yaig, noj tshoob, muaj 1 tug ploj tuag los haus cawv ntau li ntau xwb. Haus txhua yam cawv ua ke. Txij li hnub kuv tus txiv wb los coj txoj kev cai qub mas kuv tus txiv qaug cawv txhua zaus mus koom kwv tij neej tsa xwb. Txawm tsis kam haus lawm los lawv yeej yuam kom haus. Xyov hnub twg, hmo twg, xyoo twb peb hmoob mam hloov.
Yog kawg lawm, tus txiv tsev! Kuv yeej ntxuuuuub txoj kev haus dej haus cawv uas muab ua tshaj qhov yuav tau. Tos thiaj muab tej story uas tus nraug vauv tuag kiag ntawm rooj vim cov neejtsa siab phem pheej tsi tsum. pheej yuam li yuam tus vauv haus tuag kiag los lawv ua txuj tsi paub quav li. Kuv ntxub cov neeg li ntawd kawg! Everyone has to change for the better. Only cov coj kevcai tshiab thiaj li tsi muaj muaj teebmeem txog qhov haus dejcaw.
Please....Just because the bride gets soooooo much in dowry, txhob khav khav nawb. That couple's life just proved that having such a big dowry doesn't mean a thing if the husband or wife doesn't want to make the marriage last or work out. I would've regretted gifting that couple anything.
Ua tsaug, Tij laug. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I too, were going to learn meb koob and our hmoob tradition but lately I had decided not to. Due to txob kev ua mob rau yws tus keeb. Also the hmoob politics (kev tu siab n kev nplaub) Now I refocus my energy to my family and my career.
I agree with the guy. Wedding should not be about who can drink the most. Just because I can’t drink as much as you, does not mean I don’t respect you. Some tradition should be left behind and some could be improve on.
The Hmong culture and it's tradition are a beautiful thing. But some people have ruined the beauty of it. After my wedding, our pi laj said to my husband, make sure you love your wife tsim tseem nyog kuv los pab koj pe pe pe koj niam tais yawm txiv lawv tsev neeg, ncej dab ncej quaj os nawb. Some people don't take these things seriously and mess up their lives because they don't respect the culture and traditions and the hard work of others. It's not the Hmong culture or traditions that are messed up, but our own people.
This is why I tell my son to pay for his wife, that way hopefully they'll learn to value their marriage more instead of getting divorced within a few year. And I agreed with the mejkoob. The drinking has to stop.
This is a good story for us Hmong to learn from. The way we do our Hmong traditional weddings needs to change for the better and abide with the law of this country. Even if not just to abide with the law of this country, some of the way we go about marriages between our children is inhuman and illogical. We as parents should only voice our opinion and should not have the right to force any thing and or any decisions on our kids when it comes to their marriage. A marriage should be 100% about the the two person who is getting married. It should also be 100% their decision when and who they marry. Marriages should absolutely not be about anyone else especially the parents and their FACE and their REPUTATION! All that needs to matter is that both of the two person getting married consent to the marriage.
I'm glad you learned that being one is not what it cracks up to be. Pur hmong culture had good and bad. If you dont like it then, it's best not to be a meng Kong. I dont like the drinking part.
If I have a daughter getting married, I would invite the to be in-law and opt for an American wedding. If my boy is getting married , I would then succumb to the wishes of the other side.
Doing mej koob is ok and fine. What needs to change is the way parents do the wedding. I think Hmong people shouldn’t abandon their traditions. We should learn and keep traditions going. But we should change to meet the current time and culture. No more force drinking. My family is different than what I hear here. We have changed a lot. We don’t force anyone to drink alcohol. They can chose to drink soda, water, or Juice. I think Hmong people should change their old narrow minded ways. Keep the good traditions, but let go of the bad ones.
This is what my sister and I been talking. We are young gen but we already have the tho why our culture is dying because the drinking. If they can stop, I am sure our younger gen willing to learn more. I feel sad that Hmong people are drinking too much and judge to quick and everything have to do with Saving the FACE.
This is one thing I dislike about Hmong. My dad is a meej koob and I hate seeing my dad have to go through with it. Many abuse alcohol during any and all events/gatherings as a respect. I'm glad my family isn't as strict and didn't abuse alcohol to take advantage of my husband and his family so he got lucky.
Kav tsij hais kom hmoob mus ntseeg vajtswv es txhob hau cawv hau beer lawm es thiaj tsi muaj mob ntawm Kev luab caw luab beer lawm. Hmoob kom koj pab hmoob tabsi hnub twg koj muaj mob vim hau beer hau caw CES hmoob yeej tsi leev paub koj thiab yeej tsi tuaj saib koj li es puas tus koj siab mas. Luag tej neeg ntse CES luag mus ntseeg vajtswv es rau siab khw. Kom luag muaj noj thiab txawj ntse xwb ho COV ruam CES mus quav cawv quav beer UA qhaj ua qhug xwb
Hmoob yuav tau tseg txoj kev ua tshoob ua kos los sis ua noj ua haus es haus cawv haus beer ua lom ua lug cuag pab niag dev noj tau tshuaj txhaum es ntuav uj iam nawb , tsum tsis ua lawm los zoo dua
Cov me kwv tij hmoob thov nej paub tu siab thiab os mog, peb cov txiv neej hmoob ces yuav liam sim tag vim cov poj niam hmoob siab phem no xwb nawb mog. Kuv ces hniaj hnub no hnov txog peb cov txiv neej hmoob lub neej txom nyem thaum twg ces kua muag poob. Tu siab kawg.
It’s ok to keep some traditions but the drinking at weddings is unnecessary and I don’t think it was this abused in the old days. You shouldn’t be driving drunk anyways. It also sounds like you be attending only messed up alcoholic weddings. There are plenty of good Hmong families who follow the traditional weddings without abusing alcohol.
I agree. As a meej koob, I always have designated driver from and to no matter what. Also, as a beginner meej koob, I only can do what I can and won't be available to do meej koob every weekends. I will only accept two weddings a year. Doesn't matter how much they try to begg me. Alcohol can destroy your liver. This meej koob in this story should not try to be so nice at the beginning. They will take advantage of you.
James Thao this meej Koob sounds like he has no self control either. If he’s to the point where he’s lost his license, he should’ve been more responsible for his own actions.
I agree with this person from his personal view. When everything is going nice and easy a mej koob gets the respect but when relationships goes wrong he is at fault. It is not his responsibility and fair. In my opinion for the future, I believe there should be no need for a mej koob to represent both side of groom and bride side. It should just be planning between both parents of bride/groom. Arrangements just from both parents. This will save time, hard to find a mej koob and eventhough you find one he might not want to take the job. By doing this will solve everyone's problem. A lot of wedding are just a silly game of getting back at each other.
Hahaha.. luv txiv yog ib tus txiv mej koob for life but kuv no mej koob in my kuv lub hlwb thiab txiv xaiv kuv tsis K txog txiv xaiv kuv twb g pom ib tug ua nom li. Kuv tus mej koob mas nyob tom tsev lawm xwb .
This uncle or older brother here said it!! He's right about all this!! All "Hmong weddings" need to change this situation. Its 2020 n will be beyond the future now. We should not be risking something stupidity over a stupid wedding! Why can Hmong learn for the better not for worsen!? Same goes to funerals too! Hmong need to learn how to weddings n funerals like American, Korean, or others. They can't sit there ass on the tables n stay quiet n listen to guest speaker for important things...not hmong people weddings all u hear is people talking over people n standing around without respect not listening to guest speakers it's not quite...seems not important to tour guest but so rude! That's no wedding but, wasted if time, just like this Uncle's telling his experience. I'm so agree with you🙌☝️👏👍 I just hope ur health was recover from all this n live for urself, love urself, n ur wife! I'm glad u stop sooner then later for ur health.
Peb hmoob liav dej liav cawv dhau lawm. Best to let the tradition fade and evolve. Most hmoob weddings are no longer about the married couples but the elders and those who loves alcohol only.
Tus txiv tsev...cov teeb meem no tsis yog tim txoj kev cai...qhov loj yog tim koj xwb...koj tsis txhob tag kev cia siab...vim koj kawm thiab pab neeg for wrong reasons...koj tsis yog kawm los pab raws kev pab koj kawm los pab koj lub ntseg muag ces kawg poob li ko. nyob teb chaws no yog koj tsis txaus siab ua ces yeej tsis muaj tus yuam koj...es you have you pim ces txhob tus siab rau hmong kev cais.
Muaj teeb meem los vim ntsib cov cagces hmoob quav cawv xwb kuv yeej pom lwm hom hmoob mas yeej haus cawv loj dhau lawm thaum zoo ces yus yeej tsis xav hlub niag nyab ntawv li hmoob txob xav tias yuam cawv ntau npaum es lawv yuav hlub2 tus ntxhais yim haus ces lawv yim tu siab tsis xav hlub tus ntxhais xwb.
Peb cov hmoob CA, tsis coj li ko os...xaj maim no peb cov mej koob tus nyiam teev dej dawb beer kua taub twg xwb los tau tsis yuam leej twg as..tej kev cai qub2 muab tso tseg kom tag os.. hmoob aw.
Thank you for stopping be Hmong Mejkoob you’re the first Hmong who I support. Hmong traditions is very good for the young generation to practice, but most of Hmong people never follow up the rules and the law of the country they are living . The way they are practices is alcohol 🍺 making for fun. They have never been thinking about others and whatever will cause for the future.
Kv tsis paub hmoob kab lim kev cai. But now we here and see other race why their life are success and prosper. We also be able to go learn and become doctor or lawyers, we should be able to change and make our traditions ceremony make more sense and enjoyable. Yes we can keep our tradition but remember our traditions are human made and we can change for better. Stop living in the pass. People keeps living in the pass are very slow to evolve and will always fall behind. No wonder people with doctor and lawyer degree stay away from these traditions ceremony because the old folks, they uneducated and stubborn. When things doesn't do or go their way then they start cursing. Try to always learn from other race of why they success and succeed. Just remember even the bible always gets revise. And one more thing I like to add, if this is such an important part of our life and tradition why not make these men koob sifu and paid them as one of their occupation. We can have a $20000 wedding we should be able to pay the mej $500-$1000. Something so important to us but we always want it for free but pretend to have them there so we can verbally abuse them. Sometime I think about it we hmoob hais tshoob are so funny
kuv tus ntxhais yuav txiv kuv tsis yuav cawv tsuas yuav dej thiab kua txiv thiab pepsi haus xwb ua zaub mov qab qab rau sawv daws noj xwb ua tau lub tshoob zoo heev sawv daws noj haus lom zem luag ntxhi xwb peb ntseeg Vajtswv peb txiav tau ntau heev li lawm yog xav ua lawm ces ntseeg Vajtswv xwb mas.
Better to not practice these so call hmong traditions. They do not better you in any shapes or forms. Myself i used to respected and followed what clan leaders said and do including hmong traditions and shaman services. My bil was a stricted shaman and followed hmoob kev cai until he joined the church and started preaching about god. From this i learned that people do what they want only no such thing. We are just being abused. These people does not know better than others.😅😅😅
He is not sad because of the alcohol. He sad because kids these day's marriage dont last. Just quit and let them go and marry at the court. Bring beer to the judge.. hehehehe
Peb hmoob ces ua kev cai ruam li ruam pheej muab cawv los ua kev cai li ntawd tsis muaj qab ho dabtsi kiag tsis nyiam tej niag kev cai ruam ntawd kiag li lauj. Hmong people are very good of forcing others to do things Hmong should really learn to give everyone a choice to choose the drinks what best for their wellbeing.
Yog li koj hais kawg tos li ntawv peb cov lawb dab thiaj li tsis xav mus yuav cov tsis ntseeg vaj tswv vim cov tsis ntseeg tsis paub hlub neeg lawv lub siab mas phem tsaj plaws li cov tsis ntseeg vaj tswv no tuaj thov kuv tus txiv mus ua mej koob rau lawv cov hmoob lees lawv muab cawv dawb los tov beers rau kuv tus txiv haus nws qaug heev kawg ntuav22 tau ntshav kiag ua pob rau kuv tu los txog rau niaj hnub no tab sis Tom qab no ntsib khub txij nkawm nkawv twb tsis hu yus tus txiv twb tsis lees paub tias vim yus tus txiv es lawv thiaj tau sib yuav no mas tom ntej no tsis txob cia peb cov txiv mus ua mej koob rau lawv lawm CIA ua li lawv cov suav kom nkawv ob leeg los mus pe niam thiab txiv lawm xwb vim cov me nyuam no tsis txawj sib hlub or peb them li tsiaj lawm xwb
Kuv pom muaj tej tsev kwv tij mam haus dej cawv loj tiag2 twb tsis tas yuav muaj tshoob kos mam haus thiab tsuav ua ib thaj neeb ua birthday xwb los haus dej cawv loj kawg hos ntawm peb cov kwv tij lawm yog ib cov tsis nyiam haus dej haus cawv loj kiag li
Koj yuam Kev lawm vim UA mejkoob CES qaug cawv tabsi yog koj UA tsheb sib tsoo es lov ceg CES lawv yeej tsi tuaj saib koj thiab yeej tsi UA mov tuaj rau koj noj. Hmoob kawm Kev cai tabsi thaum hmoob tw Kev hmoob ho tsi thov COV dab qhua hmoob hos thov ntuj xwb thiab hmoob ho twv ntuj xwb hmoob tsi hais rau hmoob COV dab kom tuaj pab hmoob. Ib yam li sib Liam hau Dej mas twb ntuj xwb ho nyab laj phom nrov pig Poog CES hmoob thov ntuj kom ntuj pab xwb. Thaum hmoob thov ntuj thiab twv ntuj CES hmoob hais txog tus tsim ntuj mas tus ntawv yog vajtswv.
Yog lawm, hmoob kab ke ua tshoob thiab ua ntees no tsis yog ua raws kab ke los keeb kwm. Kev coj ua niaj hnub no ua raws kev khav theeb tiab kev liam xwb.
I agree with this guy. Some traditions are better left in the past. Most of it is unnecessary and just waste time and money. Most hmong people are quick to judge and criticize, but slow to try and understand the real situation as a whole.🤦♂️
Tubhmoob Lauj me too
The new generations don't understand all the fancy talks anyway. No point of doing it because we don't listen and don't understand the hmong language. I know because I never really pay attention to all of these during my traditional wedding.
This “Mej Koob” is smart! Kudos to him.
I agree with this man. My husband says the same way.
It’s all about holding grudges. I swear, a lot of Hmong ppl bring up hella crap during weddings. It has nothing to do with the bride and the groom, but the OG’s be bringing up shit that happens 3 decades ago. Like WTF??? Hmong weddings is not even a pleasant event for the bride and groom. It’s more like a death sentence for the groom from all that alcohol poisoning.
I hate hmong funerals I hate hmong weddings lol
tou xiong you must hate being Hmong too..lol
@Tou Xiong, yog li ces tuag mus ua haiv neeg koj nyiam mas ok. You are so idiots.
@Khiav Tsisdim because you suck it..you are clueless. Tuag mus os koj nas. Kuv dhuav cov neeg li koj heev os.
@Khiav Tsisdim dont regret what you say..you will get old and die too so how do you want your funeral to be handle..you cant have your spirit wondering the after life bro..is it going to be ridiculous when you die they just throw your body in the water, come on..explain yourself why is it ridiculous
Couldn't agree more
I agree with you 100%!! This is one reason why I don’t do funerals and weddings no more!!! People just don’t respect you when you say you can’t drink no more!! They’re not the one who’s gona pay for your hospital bills!!! They don’t pay for your tickets nor bail you out in jails!!
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people need to change the amount of alcohol consumption in weddings, there should be no Forcing if you have enough.
I learned what the role of mej koob is. Thank you!
Koj hais yog tshaj!!! Zoo tshaj plaws thov qhuas koj uas nej pom deb heev lawm!! Yeej chim siab thiab yog li koj hais heev li!!
Ua tau mej koob kawg mas tabsis txhob haus cawv lawm
Koj hais yog tshaj lis lawm os 1000% agree
Ua tsaug rau koj zaj qhia ua mejkoob mob tag rau peb. Kuv los yeej tsis nyiam qhov uas peb hmoob tsis xaiv qhov zoo los ua es pheej nrhiav tej kev ua mob ua phem haus dej cawv loj muaj mob los tsis tsum li. Twb muaj ntau tus mejkoob muaj mob tag li koj los lawv yeej tsis kam haus cawv me li. Hmoob txoj kev ua tej kev ruam siv dej cawv loj los ua mob no yuav puas rau peb cov laus txawj thiab yuav puas npe rau hmoob yog ib co neeg ruam tsis xaiv qhov zoo los ua. Thiab cov hluas tom ntejbno yuav ntxub hmoob txoj cai nov mus.
Hmoob txoj kev ua tshoob nrog dej caw Los sib lwv txoj kev khav theeb yog ib txoj kev tsis vam meej rau yus lub neej mog
Koj hais li ko g yg lawm nawj
Tus tij laug aws, ua tsaug koj coj koj txoj dab neeg tuaj qhia rau peb. Siab xav mas yeej xav kom hmoob hloov but then the 18 Coucil is not doing their job. The 18 Coucil ces tsa lawv tab tom mus quav dej quav cawv xwb es hmoob thiaj hloov tsis laib li es peb cov laus thiaj muaj mob ua luaj
Ua lub ntuj tsaug rau tus kwv tij uas koj txiav tau txim siab tsis ua meej Koob. Vim Peb hmoob poj ua cia yawm ua tseg tiam no tsis ua hauj lwm lawm. Vim hmoob muab dej chawv Siv nyav ua kev puas tshuaj thiab raug nte DUI yuav tsis muaj tus twg pab.
Any all out party/funeral ocassion is to impress other hmoob people. To see who can throw the biggest party. It's got nothing to do with the events.
Sim neej no mas kuv ntxub txoj kev cai haus cawv tshaj plaws vim ua 1 npluag noj xws li ua neeb ua yaig, noj tshoob, muaj 1 tug ploj tuag los haus cawv ntau li ntau xwb. Haus txhua yam cawv ua ke. Txij li hnub kuv tus txiv wb los coj txoj kev cai qub mas kuv tus txiv qaug cawv txhua zaus mus koom kwv tij neej tsa xwb. Txawm tsis kam haus lawm los lawv yeej yuam kom haus. Xyov hnub twg, hmo twg, xyoo twb peb hmoob mam hloov.
Yog kawg lawm, tus txiv tsev! Kuv yeej ntxuuuuub txoj kev haus dej haus cawv uas muab ua tshaj qhov yuav tau. Tos thiaj muab tej story uas tus nraug vauv tuag kiag ntawm rooj vim cov neejtsa siab phem pheej tsi tsum. pheej yuam li yuam tus vauv haus tuag kiag los lawv ua txuj tsi paub quav li. Kuv ntxub cov neeg li ntawd kawg! Everyone has to change for the better. Only cov coj kevcai tshiab thiaj li tsi muaj muaj teebmeem txog qhov haus dejcaw.
Hmoob yog ib co tsiaj kuv tu siab kuv yog Hmoob ntxub Hmoob lub ntees ntxub hmoob rooj tshoob ntxub Hmoob cov coj
I with you always...................
Tsis ua mej cab lawm rau peb mloog seb
Please....Just because the bride gets soooooo much in dowry, txhob khav khav nawb. That couple's life just proved that having such a big dowry doesn't mean a thing if the husband or wife doesn't want to make the marriage last or work out. I would've regretted gifting that couple anything.
Mona Lisa Lol
Kuv pom zoo li koj thiab os thov lawj mej koob lawm thiab ib yam koj lawm laus peb cov hmoob phem dhau lawm kuv yeej hais kiag hais tias phem no nawb vim yus mus sab nrauv mus ma lawv yeej yuav ua kom yus tuag kiag xwb thiaj zoo siab
Ua tsaug, Tij laug. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I too, were going to learn meb koob and our hmoob tradition but lately I had decided not to. Due to txob kev ua mob rau yws tus keeb. Also the hmoob politics (kev tu siab n kev nplaub) Now I refocus my energy to my family and my career.
Cheer....🤪🍻🍻🥶
Felt your pain bro, why i no longer wanted to do mejkoob and because hmong cai yog dev npua cai.
Totally agreed. Changed is comming & it's good.
Thank you for your service to the Hmong community uncle. I agreed with you, this story needs to be shared with everyone.
THIS IS A STUPID STORY. IT'S OVER EXAGGERATED BY THIS LADY. SHE KNOWS NOTHING.
It's true. She just told a story from a guy.
I agree with the guy. Wedding should not be about who can drink the most. Just because I can’t drink as much as you, does not mean I don’t respect you. Some tradition should be left behind and some could be improve on.
Tus kwv tij aw. Dev npua cai ces kawg zoo li ko xwb laub. Kuv twb tsa chim dawb ntev los lawm os.
Ntau yam Hmoob Kev Coj Kev ua yog ua Neej poob Qab Xwb. Yog Cov tseem Nyob pem toj Siab Ces ua Hmoob kab lig Kev Cai Yeej haj tseem zoo pab tau Rau thaum Lub caij Yuav siv yam hauj lwm Kev Cai dab qhuas ntaw.. Tab sis Cov mus Nyob txawv teb chaws Ces siv Tsis Muaj nuj nqis Lawm. Vim Kev Noj Kev ua txawv Lawm. Kev Cai Hmoob Tsuas yog siv Rau ntawm tsev neeg Hmoob Xwb Yeej siv tsis tau tawm Rau lwm haiv neeg sab nraum..
The Hmong culture and it's tradition are a beautiful thing. But some people have ruined the beauty of it. After my wedding, our pi laj said to my husband, make sure you love your wife tsim tseem nyog kuv los pab koj pe pe pe koj niam tais yawm txiv lawv tsev neeg, ncej dab ncej quaj os nawb. Some people don't take these things seriously and mess up their lives because they don't respect the culture and traditions and the hard work of others. It's not the Hmong culture or traditions that are messed up, but our own people.
I agree. Its the people that ruin it.
I agree. It’s always the people.
I totally agreed with him. There's a lot good points in this story.
I agree. Nws yeej hais yog lawm thaum muaj teeb meem lawv yeej tsis nrog yus paub li.
This is why I tell my son to pay for his wife, that way hopefully they'll learn to value their marriage more instead of getting divorced within a few year. And I agreed with the mejkoob. The drinking has to stop.
They should provide a Chauffeur for him, especially knowing he is gonna be drinking.... the drinking isnt for happiness, its a challenge game
Koj hais yog kawg li os tu mi nus
This is a good story for us Hmong to learn from. The way we do our Hmong traditional weddings needs to change for the better and abide with the law of this country. Even if not just to abide with the law of this country, some of the way we go about marriages between our children is inhuman and illogical. We as parents should only voice our opinion and should not have the right to force any thing and or any decisions on our kids when it comes to their marriage. A marriage should be 100% about the the two person who is getting married. It should also be 100% their decision when and who they marry. Marriages should absolutely not be about anyone else especially the parents and their FACE and their REPUTATION! All that needs to matter is that both of the two person getting married consent to the marriage.
May, I get sooo happy when I see a new story from you. You give me motivation to wake up early! 😂😂😂
I'm glad you learned that being one is not what it cracks up to be. Pur hmong culture had good and bad. If you dont like it then, it's best not to be a meng Kong. I dont like the drinking part.
If I have a daughter getting married, I would invite the to be in-law and opt for an American wedding. If my boy is getting married , I would then succumb to the wishes of the other side.
It is not because I don't like Hmong's traditions/culture but I raising my kids to focus on their education instead of Hmong culture.
Rose Animetor Agreed. I’m doing the same also. 🤛🏼
Exactly my thought. This is what I had advised my husband 10 years ago.
Doing mej koob is ok and fine. What needs to change is the way parents do the wedding. I think Hmong people shouldn’t abandon their traditions. We should learn and keep traditions going. But we should change to meet the current time and culture. No more force drinking. My family is different than what I hear here. We have changed a lot. We don’t force anyone to drink alcohol. They can chose to drink soda, water, or Juice.
I think Hmong people should change their old narrow minded ways. Keep the good traditions, but let go of the bad ones.
Great story, wise man and I completely agree with you.
Great story. We need more stories like this to hopefully change some of our traditions
Bay Thoj agreed
Uas tsaug koj tuaj qhias peb hmoob kom ib txhias ra thiab. Tus siab tias twb lig zog rau koj lawm.
This guy speaks nothing but the truth. Damn those spoiled kids...50k? Stupid rich parents!
Agreed should all quick. Everyone doing wrong. When married you have nej koob when you have problems no nej koob to help solve the marriage
Xauv ncaus yog 4 choj xwb
Hmoob nyob ntawm dev npuas cai Nas ha
thov qhuas koj kawm tiav ib qhab siab lawm tus txiv ntxawm... txoj kev ua meej koob rau peb hmoob tsis yog ib qhov zoo nawb vim thaum koj lub neej puas thiab muaj teeb meem thaum no puas muaj lawv pab koj? thaum no ces koj poob licence raug kaw puas tsim nyog?!
hmoob txoj kev cai ua meej koob thiab ua tshoob no ib zaug twg yuav tuag vim hmoob phem dhau lawm
hmoob cov meej koob no ces ib hnub twg yuav raug kaw vim nws muab yuam lwm tus haus cawv ib tug tuag
This is what my sister and I been talking. We are young gen but we already have the tho why our culture is dying because the drinking. If they can stop, I am sure our younger gen willing to learn more. I feel sad that Hmong people are drinking too much and judge to quick and everything have to do with Saving the FACE.
This is one thing I dislike about Hmong. My dad is a meej koob and I hate seeing my dad have to go through with it. Many abuse alcohol during any and all events/gatherings as a respect. I'm glad my family isn't as strict and didn't abuse alcohol to take advantage of my husband and his family so he got lucky.
Tus yawm txiv no hais yog lawm. Zoo siab koj tseem qhia qhov tseeb.
Kav tsij hais kom hmoob mus ntseeg vajtswv es txhob hau cawv hau beer lawm es thiaj tsi muaj mob ntawm Kev luab caw luab beer lawm. Hmoob kom koj pab hmoob tabsi hnub twg koj muaj mob vim hau beer hau caw CES hmoob yeej tsi leev paub koj thiab yeej tsi tuaj saib koj li es puas tus koj siab mas. Luag tej neeg ntse CES luag mus ntseeg vajtswv es rau siab khw. Kom luag muaj noj thiab txawj ntse xwb ho COV ruam CES mus quav cawv quav beer UA qhaj ua qhug xwb
Txoj no zoo li kuv twb hnov duaj lawm sub ne
Hmoob yuav tau tseg txoj kev ua tshoob ua kos los sis ua noj ua haus es haus cawv haus beer ua lom ua lug cuag pab niag dev noj tau tshuaj txhaum es ntuav uj iam nawb , tsum tsis ua lawm los zoo dua
Cov me kwv tij hmoob thov nej paub tu siab thiab os mog, peb cov txiv neej hmoob ces yuav liam sim tag vim cov poj niam hmoob siab phem no xwb nawb mog. Kuv ces hniaj hnub no hnov txog peb cov txiv neej hmoob lub neej txom nyem thaum twg ces kua muag poob. Tu siab kawg.
The hmoob wedding is not about the groom and the bride. It’s about the OGs on both sides and their grudges and drinking lol.
Wedding in Las vegas
Yog lawm kuv support tus txiv tsev no...peb yuav tau yuav hais thiab yog nej tsis kam ce kuv yeej tsis ntshaw noj nej plua mob no thiab nawb kwv tij..
Yog ua mej koob ruam ces kawg mag teeb meej xwb...
Hmong is one crazy culture not like any others. Hmong needs to change for sure
It’s ok to keep some traditions but the drinking at weddings is unnecessary and I don’t think it was this abused in the old days. You shouldn’t be driving drunk anyways. It also sounds like you be attending only messed up alcoholic weddings. There are plenty of good Hmong families who follow the traditional weddings without abusing alcohol.
My dad refuse to have alcohol at his daughter's weddings.
I agree. As a meej koob, I always have designated driver from and to no matter what. Also, as a beginner meej koob, I only can do what I can and won't be available to do meej koob every weekends. I will only accept two weddings a year. Doesn't matter how much they try to begg me. Alcohol can destroy your liver. This meej koob in this story should not try to be so nice at the beginning. They will take advantage of you.
James Thao this meej Koob sounds like he has no self control either. If he’s to the point where he’s lost his license, he should’ve been more responsible for his own actions.
@@maimoua3992 true.
Yes agreed. Need to change, nyob luag ntuj yeej tsi xav kawm luag txuj, tsuas hais tsim kom txaus nkaus nej,txaus nkaus peb,sib lom thaum kawg mob plab cancer tag tus,qhov no yog kev sib hlub lov?. I feel sorry rau nej cov mej koob, yea yeej tau ntsej muag, tab sis thaum tau tickets, mag kaw, mob plab cancer, mob yog koj mob,leej twg yuav qhuas thaum zoo li no? Nej cov mej koob yuav tau charge nqi kom txaus them tickets Incase get caught 😂
I agree with this person from his personal view. When everything is going nice and easy a mej koob gets the respect but when relationships goes wrong he is at fault. It is not his responsibility and fair.
In my opinion for the future, I believe there should be no need for a mej koob to represent both side of groom and bride side. It should just be planning between both parents of bride/groom. Arrangements just from both parents. This will save time, hard to find a mej koob and eventhough you find one he might not want to take the job. By doing this will solve everyone's problem. A lot of wedding are just a silly game of getting back at each other.
I agree on people need to change and nowadays the culture is. Slowly changing
I mean mej koob
Hahaha.. luv txiv yog ib tus txiv mej koob for life but kuv no mej koob in my kuv lub hlwb thiab txiv xaiv kuv tsis K txog txiv xaiv kuv twb g pom ib tug ua nom li. Kuv tus mej koob mas nyob tom tsev lawm xwb .
We Hmong need to stop using alcohol for the wedding. Be consideration for others.
Zam no zoo heev. We need to tell more stories like this. Real true life facts.
This uncle or older brother here said it!! He's right about all this!! All "Hmong weddings" need to change this situation. Its 2020 n will be beyond the future now. We should not be risking something stupidity over a stupid wedding! Why can Hmong learn for the better not for worsen!? Same goes to funerals too! Hmong need to learn how to weddings n funerals like American, Korean, or others. They can't sit there ass on the tables n stay quiet n listen to guest speaker for important things...not hmong people weddings all u hear is people talking over people n standing around without respect not listening to guest speakers it's not quite...seems not important to tour guest but so rude!
That's no wedding but, wasted if time, just like this Uncle's telling his experience. I'm so agree with you🙌☝️👏👍
I just hope ur health was recover from all this n live for urself, love urself, n ur wife! I'm glad u stop sooner then later for ur health.
Wow ! Thank you brother for your service to many of our Hmong families. Yes, We, some Hmong family are dumber and stupid.
Wanting to become someone famous in cultural? Yeah! you end up in jail for DWI.
IF YOU'RE STUPID YEAH, YOU CAN GO TO JAIL. IF YOU SMART, YOU WON'T. GET A DESIGNATE DRIVER.
Peb hmoob liav dej liav cawv dhau lawm. Best to let the tradition fade and evolve. Most hmoob weddings are no longer about the married couples but the elders and those who loves alcohol only.
Tus txiv tsev...cov teeb meem no tsis yog tim txoj kev cai...qhov loj yog tim koj xwb...koj tsis txhob tag kev cia siab...vim koj kawm thiab pab neeg for wrong reasons...koj tsis yog kawm los pab raws kev pab koj kawm los pab koj lub ntseg muag ces kawg poob li ko. nyob teb chaws no yog koj tsis txaus siab ua ces yeej tsis muaj tus yuam koj...es you have you pim ces txhob tus siab rau hmong kev cais.
Muaj teeb meem los vim ntsib cov cagces hmoob quav cawv xwb kuv yeej pom lwm hom hmoob mas yeej haus cawv loj dhau lawm thaum zoo ces yus yeej tsis xav hlub niag nyab ntawv li hmoob txob xav tias yuam cawv ntau npaum es lawv yuav hlub2 tus ntxhais yim haus ces lawv yim tu siab tsis xav hlub tus ntxhais xwb.
Kuv tus mej koob nyob tom school tsev kawm txuj xwb .
Hmoob kav li kev cai yeej sau ntseg ntev lom o tus nus
Hmoob yeej coj li koj hais es peb qee tus thiaj tu2 siab thiaj tsis kam ua hnoob cov hauj lwm lawm OS
Cov neeg uas twb vam tus mej koob pab yus tab sis ho tsis nrhiav neeg mus tos thiab xa tus mej koob, txhob mus pab lawm nawb.
KV TXIV YOG IB TUG MEJ KOOB MAS KV DHUAV TIAG 2
Peb cov hmoob nyob meskas teb chaws s/d nyiam haus cawv heev. Yuav pauv haus dej qab zib ua me ntsis kev cai xwb thiaj tsis muaj teeb meem .
Yog lawm tso tseg zoo duas Thaum koj muaj mob loj tsis muaj leej twg paub txog tias koj pab pab sawv daws thiaj mob ntsuav.
Kav tsij los ntseeg peb tus vajtswv xwb thiaj yog qhov zoo tej dej cawv ntawv yog tej kev puas tsoj puas ntsoog xwb
Peb cov hmoob CA, tsis coj li ko os...xaj maim no peb cov mej koob tus nyiam teev dej dawb beer kua taub twg xwb los tau tsis yuam leej twg as..tej kev cai qub2 muab tso tseg kom tag os.. hmoob aw.
Thank you for stopping be Hmong Mejkoob you’re the first Hmong who I support. Hmong traditions is very good for the young generation to practice, but most of Hmong people never follow up the rules and the law of the country they are living . The way they are practices is alcohol 🍺 making for fun. They have never been thinking about others and whatever will cause for the future.
Kv tsis paub hmoob kab lim kev cai. But now we here and see other race why their life are success and prosper. We also be able to go learn and become doctor or lawyers, we should be able to change and make our traditions ceremony make more sense and enjoyable. Yes we can keep our tradition but remember our traditions are human made and we can change for better. Stop living in the pass. People keeps living in the pass are very slow to evolve and will always fall behind. No wonder people with doctor and lawyer degree stay away from these traditions ceremony because the old folks, they uneducated and stubborn. When things doesn't do or go their way then they start cursing. Try to always learn from other race of why they success and succeed. Just remember even the bible always gets revise. And one more thing I like to add, if this is such an important part of our life and tradition why not make these men koob sifu and paid them as one of their occupation. We can have a $20000 wedding we should be able to pay the mej $500-$1000. Something so important to us but we always want it for free but pretend to have them there so we can verbally abuse them. Sometime I think about it we hmoob hais tshoob are so funny
No more. Drunk!
kuv tus ntxhais yuav txiv kuv tsis yuav cawv tsuas yuav dej thiab kua txiv thiab pepsi haus xwb ua zaub mov qab qab rau sawv daws noj xwb ua tau lub tshoob zoo heev sawv daws noj haus lom zem luag ntxhi xwb peb ntseeg Vajtswv peb txiav tau ntau heev li lawm yog xav ua lawm ces ntseeg Vajtswv xwb mas.
Hmong do things just by their emotion not by their heart. Also what is right for other people can follow the right way.
Better to not practice these so call hmong traditions. They do not better you in any shapes or forms. Myself i used to respected and followed what clan leaders said and do including hmong traditions and shaman services. My bil was a stricted shaman and followed hmoob kev cai until he joined the church and started preaching about god. From this i learned that people do what they want only no such thing. We are just being abused. These people does not know better than others.😅😅😅
He is not sad because of the alcohol. He sad because kids these day's marriage dont last. Just quit and let them go and marry at the court. Bring beer to the judge.. hehehehe
Ib txhia mejkoob lawv nkaus nkaus, Thov Los tsis Zam Li. Ua ruam tsab ntse. Kuv Kuj yog Ib tug mejkoob Thiab tab sis tsis nkaus li Ib txhia mejkoob. Yav no Lawm tom ntej Kuv Kuj Yuav tsis ua Lawm Thiab vim Yus laus haus tsis tau cawv 🍺🍶🍾 Lawm
Peb hmoob ces ua kev cai ruam li ruam pheej muab cawv los ua kev cai li ntawd tsis muaj qab ho dabtsi kiag tsis nyiam tej niag kev cai ruam ntawd kiag li lauj. Hmong people are very good of forcing others to do things Hmong should really learn to give everyone a choice to choose the drinks what best for their wellbeing.
Yog li koj hais kawg tos li ntawv peb cov lawb dab thiaj li tsis xav mus yuav cov tsis ntseeg vaj tswv vim cov tsis ntseeg tsis paub hlub neeg lawv lub siab mas phem tsaj plaws li cov tsis ntseeg vaj tswv no tuaj thov kuv tus txiv mus ua mej koob rau lawv cov hmoob lees lawv muab cawv dawb los tov beers rau kuv tus txiv haus nws qaug heev kawg ntuav22 tau ntshav kiag ua pob rau kuv tu los txog rau niaj hnub no tab sis Tom qab no ntsib khub txij nkawm nkawv twb tsis hu yus tus txiv twb tsis lees paub tias vim yus tus txiv es lawv thiaj tau sib yuav no mas tom ntej no tsis txob cia peb cov txiv mus ua mej koob rau lawv lawm CIA ua li lawv cov suav kom nkawv ob leeg los mus pe niam thiab txiv lawm xwb vim cov me nyuam no tsis txawj sib hlub or peb them li tsiaj lawm xwb
Kuv pom muaj tej tsev kwv tij mam haus dej cawv loj tiag2 twb tsis tas yuav muaj tshoob kos mam haus thiab tsuav ua ib thaj neeb ua birthday xwb los haus dej cawv loj kawg hos ntawm peb cov kwv tij lawm yog ib cov tsis nyiam haus dej haus cawv loj kiag li
Koj yuam Kev lawm vim UA mejkoob CES qaug cawv tabsi yog koj UA tsheb sib tsoo es lov ceg CES lawv yeej tsi tuaj saib koj thiab yeej tsi UA mov tuaj rau koj noj. Hmoob kawm Kev cai tabsi thaum hmoob tw Kev hmoob ho tsi thov COV dab qhua hmoob hos thov ntuj xwb thiab hmoob ho twv ntuj xwb hmoob tsi hais rau hmoob COV dab kom tuaj pab hmoob. Ib yam li sib Liam hau Dej mas twb ntuj xwb ho nyab laj phom nrov pig Poog CES hmoob thov ntuj kom ntuj pab xwb. Thaum hmoob thov ntuj thiab twv ntuj CES hmoob hais txog tus tsim ntuj mas tus ntawv yog vajtswv.
Yog lawm, hmoob kab ke ua tshoob thiab ua ntees no tsis yog ua raws kab ke los keeb kwm. Kev coj ua niaj hnub no ua raws kev khav theeb tiab kev liam xwb.