I have a 1989 Bentley Turbo R and a 1997 Bentley Turbo R. You don’t buy these cars to “show off”. You buy a good example and you simply enjoy the excellent build quality and the massive amount of torque and power these engines have. It’s all about how these machines drive and operate and what they accomplish for being 5600 lbs.
Don't know why you bentley and rolls fan boys always mention the weight like it some kind of feat of super human effort. 1976 Town Car was 5300 lbs. big deal.
@@DanielBenzs65AMG You're kidding right? Lincoln's don't need complete rebuilds after only 50k. They may nickel and dime you to death with broken switches and minor things, but you're not REBUILDING THE ENTIRE SUSPENSION.
I prefer your generation bentleys. I think they are called SZ series. They seem less complicated and more DIY friendly. Which of your two cars do you prefer
JoshsWorld.com problem being that in Finland where I live, 03 Arnage T with 70 000km is still €69 000. Which is a stretch for mid-income family guy, even when I can do much of the maintenance myself.
They are very hard to find. My 7th grade history teacher had a Bentley Azure convertible in a burgundy color he drove to school. Retired from real-estate/development and taught for fun. What an amazing car.
When I was kid I wanted always S-class Mercedes Benz. Now i have second one going. First was W220 and now i have W221. I am now travelling from Finland, Rovaniemi to Ukraine, Poltava 7000km (4350mi) trip. We are just going back to Finland with W221. Now in Ukraine, Lutsk at hotel. S-class is so smooth to drive that i'm not tired at all after this days 750km (488mi) ride from Poltava. Awesome car.
Great to see you after a year. We just took a leap of faith and bought a 2006 Flying Spur with 18K miles on it. Let me just say that it's the first car in many years that I actually feel passionate about!
This is truly my dream car I want one so bad. Such a motivator to become more successful in reaching my goals and my dreams I want one really bad and once I find the right one I will have my dream in my driveway. Thanks for posting this video it motivates me to push to get one even harder
JoshsWorld.com i’m going to be launching a very cool website that’s going to be called AmericanBusinessReviews.com. It’s going to be a special website for people to post positive reviews about their own business without censorship. Businesses will be in control of comments that get posted they will be able to approve or decline any comments to get posted on the reviews that the business puts up on the website.
JoshsWorld.com Glad you did a honest review of a average person owning a Bentley! I'm right now shopping to buy a Continental GT , against everyone's advice,that I'm making a mistake! Don't care,just want to have the experience like you have. Wish me luck!
May 17, 2021 I agree with Josh. I purchased a very niceley optioned 2009 Arnage R in 2017 as the second owner with 3,800 miles from new, which cost about $274,000 new out the door from Braman Motors in Palm Beach, FL. It's now approaching 10,000 miles with no mechanical issues. It now lives in Orange County, CA. Note: the Bentley's will need new shocks at roughly 40,000 miles, which cost $2,000 each for parts, not including installation. It needs Pirelli P Zero's to carry the weight and speed rating of around 178 MPH. It also will require repair or replacement of rear spheres at about the same mileage. Beware of too little mileage use if shopping for a Bentley, as non-use is worse than misuse or deferred maintenance. I wouldn't buy a 2000 series Arnage with less than 10,000 miles because you don't know if they were early miles or later miles, which means you don't know if the car has been sitting around for years without being driven. This car needs exercise regularly. Run at least 30 minutes at freeway speed at least monthly. Keep battery trickle charge on the car as batteries (2 of them) will run down in less than a week, then all hell breaks loose. I'm using a CTEC model, which is the brand that Bentley badged when selling the car new. Only 2008 and 2009 Arnages have the head gasket leakage and cam bearing wear problems fixed, along with a a GM six-speed tranny. They are functionally identical cars. Facelift occurred at 2005 when the headlights lost the glass covering. Cherry '09's R models, nicely optioned are running around $90k with under 15,000 miles. Many for sale which do not have options. Rear picnic tables and rear vanity mirrors are a must for resale sustainability. If over 40,000 miles, insist on road testing the car and confirm maintenance records on suspension items. These are more than a passing DIY project. Plus, you'll have some recourse if the mechanic screws up instead of suing yourself for damages. There were 150 Final Series cars made, nearly all of them double black with upgraded stereo and special badging and perhaps a hotter chip. Some other extra do-dahs that will impress your friends, but otherwise be useless, such as a a refrigerator in between the back seat arm rests, a cocktail decanter and champagne flues in back of the front seats. These are marketed as premium cars, but they're not usually worth the extra money, unless you want a black car, which is the most popular (least original) color, which looks like a Darth Vader mobile. That's if you're into intimidating cars. And you'll have to wash it twice a week even if it's in the garage. That is, if you don't have a chauffeur. Retractable radio antennas regularly fail as factory OEMs were defective quality. Make sure the antenna is working before you buy your car. I didn't know this, and replacement cost me about $550 from independent garage in Los Angeles. Mine is double Magnolia. Only three of this color combination '09 R's brought into North America according to Bentley factory records. Most common color combination is double black. This does not make for a unique car, other than it is a Bentley. The '09 model year was the last of the classic 5-gauge cluster dashboard design. Note to manage your expectations: The rear view camera and navigation system is completely useless. The sun visors do not disengage for swinging over the driver's side window. The center console may not have cup holders because there's no way you can have cups in the center console and also lower the center arm rests. Get used to no cup holders. Besides, no proper Bentley owner would drive with coffee inside the leather covered car anyway. Can't fill up at Costco because their pumps are set at full capacity to save fill up time. The Bentley can't take full volume, so shuts off almost immediately. Go to another gas station and set pump speed at lowest setting and take your time. It's a Bentley, for Pete's sake. You're never in a hurry. Side mirrors are nearly useless. Too small for full view of right side of car. Make lane changes VERY carefully, check twice. Always drive around a corner extra slow. That's an unwritten law of Bentley owners. Let them have a good look at you. NEVER look out the window at a stop light to see at who's looking at you. It's so amateurish of new Bentley owners. Image it's only one of several cars in your collection. No big deal. CON'T BE A JERK. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT BEING A JERK. You're driving an elegant car. Act like ladies and gentlemen who amongst ladies and gentlemen. It will surprise everyone who will be expecting a jerk. Be extra courteous as a Bentley driver. People are looking at you as if you're a snob or privileged. Set a good example for others as drive courteously and always give a pedestrian extra right of way. Give thanks to other drivers who give you the right of way or allow you to make a generously gracious lane change. As a new Bentley owner, you'll be owning a PMC. This is an inside owner's term for a Bentley or Rolls, which stands for "proper motor car." Join the Rolls Royce Owner's Club, which also covers Bentley's. They're a great organization. Budget around $5,000 per year on average for repairs. That's everyone's best advice. If you can't afford it, make more money then buy your Bentley. Set it aside as a contingency fund. Change the oil more frequently than required. I use MOTUL and buy from Amazon. It uses standard $15 oil filters. No Mobil 1. Also, do not use ordinary brake fluid. This car uses mineral oil only. If you use brake fluid, you will have to drain it all out and you'll be sorry. Make sure your local mechanic knows this and doesn't "top off" your brake system with ordinary brake fluid. Most parts are available from Flying Spares in the UK. They are very helpful and courteous. If you join the RROC, their monthly magazine offers many U.S. based parts suppliers. I've changed both pollen and cabin filters purchased from Flying Spares. I've had NO adverse comments or gestures from others. Mostly, an occasional sincere comment of appreciation, like "nice car" or thumbs up on the freeway. I always thank them graciously in some manner. Jay Leno advises in his Bentley Turbo R video, "Act like you know somebody." I'm not sure that works for me. Finally, i think that a cheap Bentley is the most expensive you'll ever buy. Enjoy your Bentley! PS. Look for a video coming soon on Her Majesty, my PMC.
Wow! Thank you for sharing so much about your experience. You bring up a lot of great points. I especially like the point "Don't be a jerk." Great advice regardless of your car!
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Lesson #1, Doug doesn't know it all after all. Life is short to worry about what strangers think about you. Your happiness is priceless!
I have a 2000 Bentley Arnage Red Label. Cost £22,000 (28,000 USD) in UK and has 31,000 miles on the clock. Absolutely agree with Josh - "Bentley Therapy" is real and brings a smile to my face every time. Maintainence? I have found a local Bentley Independent garage that does proper Bentley/Rolls work for a fraction of the normal specialist price. Eureka!! Could not recommend these car s highly enough if you get a good one. Fabulous.
I bought a 2005 W220 S 500 long wheelbase a year ago with the same kind of fears. So far the repair and service costs have been 400€ in 10 months and over 10 000 miles. My friends love arriving in places in a black S class with soft-close doors and a driver (me) to open the doors -we don't have valet services in many places in Finland. The price for the car is about a third of the Bentley and it still amazes me how the car puts a smile on my face every single day - and how it still gathers so much attention while arriving in public places. This was an excellent video, I am so happy for you!
Glad you made this beautiful choice . Beautiful car. Its simply beautiful. Enjoy the car. Its hard to ignore the presence on 1974 Bentley. This is 40 years younger! Enjoy and keep us posted please.
I saw one of these at the car auctions on Friday. I literally knew NOTHING about this car. I wouldn't call myself a car guy but I have never had feelings towards a car until I saw an arnage. I was mesmerized. It sold for around £18500 if I recall. Such a hidden gem.
Another great one. After 8 years of ownership of my 2002 I found mostly the service costs experience as you have. You do however have to stay on top of it, which it looks like you do. Steering column is a big one and spheres, thought not as big, are a necessary evil every few years. Also, watch out for window regulators, they are plagued by tiny plastic bits that can wear out or can be chewed up if the windows are not properly reset after a dead or swapped battery. Overall, enjoy and keep up the good work on the videos.
Love it! Oddly enough your findings go directly in line with people I know and have spoken to who carefully choose, buy and own Bentley and Rolls Royce products. I suspect a lot of the horror stories are either people who purchased cheep (or shoddy) examples, or even more likely have never owned one.
nice! Did the same thing with my 1990 e32 735i. Bought it with 33,000 miles one owner and love having a classic BMW experience. Cost have been low and I am in year 5!!! I just love this car. Do what you love, joy will follow. Great video
"It's just me" no sir, you're a hero and true nobility in the car world because you picked from the highest branch and avoided the low hanging fruit most sadly aspire to LOL
I enjoyed a similar halo from owning an old Mercedes S-Class. Most people have no clue how old it is. (And in the case of MB the old ones are far better anyway.)
I am passionate in saying that the Arnage is one of my absolute favorite vehicles. Girlfriend and I saw one a couple of weeks ago while visiting Charleston, SC. I pulled her across the street and said, "Baby, this is an irrational bucket list car for next year, I'm going to loose my wallet on one of these." Thrilled to see more "average consumers" like myself are leading the charge and doing videos like this. Thank you so much Josh.
Go for it. Hopefully your girlfriend supports it! What's the worst that could happen: you lose your wallet. You're not risking your life or health. You only live once.
Great Video. I'm a firm believer that if you look after your car, you can pre-empt any major issues and I say that as a current TVR owner and a soon to be, Arnage owner...
I am totally in line with your line of thinking about finally dropping fear and taking the plunge and committing to what you want while truly learning to place no weight upon caring what others may or may not think of you while enjoying your car. I was 22 when I bought my 1st Porsche 928 in 1994 and my 2nd one in 1999 after the first owner(s) took the hit in depreciation. I thoroughly enjoyed them and appreciated their excellence.
Exactly! Most people who talk negative aren't DIY guys to begin with. 😁😁 Plenty of people I see that daily-drive old luxury cars from the 90s or even 80s everyday.
You are absolutely spot on with respect to maintenance costs. It is SO much cheaper to do it yourself, and we have youtube at our disposal so it's really not hard to do. I own an out of warranty BMW which granted, it's not as expensive to maintain as a Bentley, but it's still higher than average. I've saved thousands of dollars maintaining it myself rather than going to a certified BMW mechanic. On top of that I've learnt basic mechanical skills which will save me money on every other car I own in the future. Oil change due? Done. Radiator flush needed? No problem. New breaks? Easy. And it's actually fun and rewarding to do.
Fortunately for you, the TH-cam and online community is much larger for BMW. The Arnage community is pretty small, but I hope to help change that! I'm adding my own DIY videos as projects arise.
3:27 You're damned right! Pull up in front of a Ritz-Carlton and you are ASSURED that your Arnage is not being sent away to join the Infiniti crowd in the Valet lot. Your Arnage, will still be AT THE FRONT DOOR when you are ready to leave!
Great series! Been here from the start. I was looking at buying one and then your series started and I have held off while you do the testing for me. I feel more confident now, thank you
i have a 2009 Arnage R, double magnolia. Love this car. Having the same experiences as you explain in this video. Based in Orange County, CA. Bought the car last August with 3,800 miles on it. Has some issues, being purchased and living in Florida, but i'm loving the ownership experience.
Awesome video. I had a smaller budget because I'm in my upper 20s but four years ago I bought a 1997 BMW 740iL for $5K. It was $105,000 new in 2017 money and everyone warned me of impending financial disaster. In 4 years it actually did need lots of suspension parts changed and intake related gaskets but all were DIY thanks to the forums. I would buy it again in a heartbeat and the pleasures are many owning a car that is still very much a $105,000 car! Btw, we have the same 4.4L BMW engine, yours is twin turbo'd and we have the same ZF 5hp-30 transmission!
Thanks! Those are great cars. The earlier Arnage Green Label cars shared your car's drivetrain. By 2004, Bentley had already switched to the 6.75 liter Rolls-Royce V8. It still shares some components with the BMW. The climate control system is from BMW, as well as some other parts.
I subscribed immediately. This video reminds me as I was a young student and bought e38 bmw. Almost everybody told me I was an idiot getting a 7 series at such young age... A cheap old luxurious bmw wasn't a money pit and stayed with me for 8 long years
It is so interesting to hear of your experience. I watched many hours of TH-cam videos before buying my Saphire 2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur. I am not much for DIY, but I found a local shop that specializes in Bentley, Audi, Porshe and Bugatti. They are one third the cost of the Bentley dealership. Their clientele also has them work on customers" Mercedes, BMW, and Ferraris. I bought the car from the Bentley dealership. It was beautiful with 65,000 miles on it. Except for the poor gas mileage, I LOVE it. Last week, I drove my neighbor and his family to the airport. I wore a black tuxedo, white shirt and bowtie. I had a lot of fun. I put the car away for the winter (Minnesota). I had only one service related problem that was no big deal. I'm glad I'm not the only car nut to take a chance!
You're exactly right. I was just a small kid on the grand opening of TH-cam. I sat on my dad's shoulders and caught a glimpse of the founder, Mr. Carl. P. TH-cam. Best day of my life.
Great work Josh. I have been driving a VW Phaeton since 2007 which is a Bentley GT with a VW badge with an Audi A8 drive train. It has been the best car I have ever driven. Granted the last service was $5,800.00 but that included new brakes and serpentine belt. This was at 75,000 miles. Before that the costs have been minimal. These high end cars, if chosen carefully, can be very reliable transportation. Be ready to spend larger sums of money periodically but the joy of driving these machines far outweighs any costs now and then.
I'm psyched, thanks for posting! I'm also 6'3", wear glasses, and love my t-shirts and snacks. I've been looking at getting an Arnage for a good while now, and the 2005-2009 model has really dropped recently. I think I'm going to pull the trigger when the economy collapses next, usually you see used luxury car prices plummet after crashes.
A friend of mine bought a new Arnage, in silver. When I saw him in a coupe i asked "you havnt bought another one?" The reply was " no, it just went in for its first service and this is a courtesy car". Bentley in England look after their customers....................
Thanks a lot for your videos , this one particularly . I'm about to buy a Bentley too but a 1980 T2 and I'm taking my time to find one in mint conditions because the key is to avoid a cheap one that will for sure cost a fortune in the future rather than the well cared will offer peace of mind and confort....Keep going Bentley ;-)
Beautiful car. A well maintained/serviced low mileage example should pose few problems. I'm from the UK and have worked on IT projects at the Bentley factory in Crewe. The cars are lovingly made and it is a real treat for a car lover to walk along the production line and see the engines being fitted, the cabins with all the wood veneer and leather being put in place. I've looked at buying one myself, but I live in the UK so the cost of petrol is much more of a stumbling block than in the US! Enjoy it.
i have the identical car in HK but it’s older 2001. it’s just done 27k. i find running cost nothing compared to the pure joy i get from owning it, i’m keeping mine till the wheels fall off.
I drive a silver 05’ 300 touring, and I can’t see the resemblance. Ik in 05’ alot of rappers, wannabes rapper, and hood rich guys had one. I’ve also seen people replace the grills and add other cosmetic items to make it look even more like a Bentley, but I still can’t see the resemblance.
1st Gen Oldsmobile Auroras. May not be great cars or even good cars in the scheme of things today, but growing up was my favorite that still brings back great memories. I remember my dad and I looking/buying one for him back in 1998 vividly. My first real car love! Keep it up Josh!
Jake Kennedy - Back then, I collected a ton of car catalogs. Olds sent me an awesome hard bound book and video set on the new Aurora. The only other piece of literature to rival it was the spiral bound book they sent me on the Bravada oddly enough. None of the manufacturers go all out with promotional literature like that anymore.
Excellent video, I own a Bentley Continental GT, and like you I was apprehensive about purchasing a ten year old vehicle with high maintenance costs. I have owned the Bentley Continental GT for three years and do my own maintenance. However the Bentley dealer is not inclined to be very helpful in giving me diagnostic trouble codes, for instance the TPMS codes for what I have learned from other Bentley aficionados (Canadian owner's sharing information) I appreciate the attention to detail that the Bentley Boy's in Crewe Cheshire England. These cars are landmarks and in many ways set the standard for other car manufacturers. All one needs to do to fall in love with a Bentley is to drive 600 miles in the car. Thank you for the video. I have owned many nice automobiles. A comparable German car, is a Mercedes-Benz CL550 or CL 600, which have owned. IMHO the Bentley shows far greater attention to detail and craftsmanship than the Mercedes-Benz. Get the best of England and Germany together and you have the capability of creative teamwork and amazing results.
GREAT VIDEO , YOU MADE THE LEAP AND MANY WILL FOLLOW .I HAVE A NORMAL INCOME AND DOWN TO EARTH GUY ,BUT I LIKE QUALITY OVER QUANTITY .I BROUGHT MY BROTHERS JAGUAR XJ6 - AS A WEEKEND CAR AND LOVED IT AND NO REAL PROBLEM . AFTER MANY YEARS OWNERSHIP I HAVE DECIDED A NICE MERCEDES WILL BE MY NEXT WEEKEND AND LONGTERM CAR - BULLETPROOF AND FUN TO DRIVE .WHY BUY NEW WHEN WE CAN HAVE A GREAT CAR SECONDHAND AND SPEND LESS .
I’m passionate about the Ford windstar. I purchased my windstar for 250.00 and have already drove it 3000 miles I’m using this van for my window cleaning business and love it’s size and power! I highly recommend the ford windstar!!
Very happy to have stumbled on this video. I am on the cusp of making the decision you just walked me through. Researching Bentley Arnage with the same concerns you just articulated. Many, many thanks.
One question ... insurance? That's what will kill this dream here in the UK. When it costs nearly £1,000 per year to insure something as lowly as a Ford Focus, walk into a car insurers here and say "how much will it cost to insure my Bentley Arnage?", the insurance rep is already thinking "month's holiday in the Seychelles paid for with the commission".
Thank you for making these awesome videos! I’ve been trying to upgrade my daily driver to a ten year old Maserati Quattroporte, and being a 19 myself, year old everyone’s told me it’s insane, and I’ll never be able to afford the maintenance on it. I’m glad I’m not the only one willing to take the risk!!
Sweet! My old Mercedes-Benz E320 from 2004 used to eat about 1200$ per year in maintenance. That is a beautiful car with a superior quality interior and comfort!
D LG Yes it was worth. your not paying for the can , your paying for his expertise in knowing how to work on a $250,000 automobile. I agree it's a lot of money, but it's a darn Bentley!!!! 187.00 is cheap.....
George Hurtado The problem with your mindset...is that it is all too common. It is the conditioned thought process of the age of the internal combustion engine. That being... that you should be prepared to pay more for servicing and repair of your vehicle based on the price and perceived prestige. The dawn of the electric car is about to take that mindset and the internal combustion engine with it into oblivion.
A Netizen Relax,,,,,there is no problem with my mindset just like I don't think there is a problem with yours crying over a bill I feel us justified due to the mechanics experience on a niche product.
I own a 2007 GT, and at 90000 kms, it’s due for front brake pads, which I intend to do myself. I replaced the front air shocks with help from my brother at a DIY garage and saved myself a fortune. Did my own oil and filter change 4 months ago, and saved a packet there. So far, so good.
I do like the styling compared to BMW Rolls thingy, it's timeless. I know you feel. When my wife and I owned a Jaguar X-Type, which was upgraded for an 2006 XJ6 2.7, you did feel special when you turned up to hotels or to restaurants. People would comment on beautiful the XJ6 was. Alas it had to go due to the DPF going wrong again. At least the gentleman who purchased the car put it back on the road, and I still have my '65 Humber which also has the same special magic, pity about cost of petrol and low MPG etc. Keep on rocking!
Wow, you have an honest mechanic! Amazing!!! I want an Azure and/or Corniche from the early 2000’s but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Those have been my dream cars since I was 20 years old
Really enjoyed watching that. A refreshingly normal review of something by a normal person. Not just spouting myths and legends about Bentley,giving a balanced picture of ownership was good to hear. I fear that (in the real world) as prices of this era of Bentley keep falling, some eventual owners will not pay the money for inevitable repairs, so many will be lost until prices start to rise again
Here because I am seriously pondering an Arnage T for the price of a Honda Accord. Love it. Thanks alot. Good to see people being honest with themselves. Glad this car has been a catalyst for positive change to you.
My money's on you simply because you are scrupulously attending to all maintenance concerns before they become actual maintenance concerns. Stay vigilant.
what heap of $hit car. You bought it at 30,000 miles..... a distance that would not bother any "lower class car".... but since then, you have: - had "2 unscheduled trips".... already a bad sign - Low coolant but no leaks? Oh yes, of course it must have evaporated - keep your eye on it - Rough idle.... Mmmm, at 30,000 miles? Has it been serviced regularly? If so - this is a crap fault. "Sea Foam"... gee lucky he thought of that because he was probably knocking off crap buildup around your valves or similar from a fundamentally $hitfully engineered engine.... In the old days, I used to gently pour water into the intake of my crappy 1600 ford escort whilst revving it when it ran like $hit - the water turned to steam and blew off carbon buildup around "bits that should never get carbon buildup" - and hence make your engine idle like $hit similarly. If you didn't find this guy.... you would have sunk into BIG $ right there - over $700 for AC filter changes when it really only costs $100..... that tells you that this car maker thinks its customers are idiots. - Ohhhh, then you got a faulty coolant indicator...... Wow? Ok, once again they would have ripped you through the guts if you didn't fix it yourself. Isn't it getting a bit embarrassing at this point? - And then you say you have some rather large expense items that will put the Bentley back in the specialist garage???? Jesus - there's more faults at 30,000 miles???? BUT, luckily you have found people to tell you how to avoid the said garage and fix (even more???) problems cheaper? - And then you finally let us know what your fundamental problem is ....... Perceived "Image".... - "maybe the car has the potential to ruin me financially".... YES My dad was stupid enough to buy a Rolls Royce silver shadow 20 years ago....... hahahahahahahaha - biggest heap of automotive $hit on this planet and swallowed tens of thousands of dollars. Go on.... keep it for 20 years and keep telling us how many things %$#@ed up for our amusement. YOU WILL GO BROKE
What a lovely car: my cheapie is a S350 LWB 2004. Since I learned of the gear that wears out by 95,000 klms in the V6 (obviously I did not do my homework), I plan to trade it in on a S500 LWB. I have absolutely loved driving myself and at times my family in total comfort especially the long distances are very easy on the body. By the way to fix the gear problem in the engine, the engine must come out! Big bucks there! Yes I have had to do some repairs, but none were extremely expensive as I used a non branded repairer who have been in business for ages...the boss is SO knowledgeable. He advised on the S500 as this problem does not exist. You must understand when buying a car such as this; you need the money set aside for when things break down....not if. I bought the car accepting this right from the start. The gear is for the harmonic balancer. The material has improved in the gear; but for how long I do not know.
About 15 years ago I had the Opportunity to purchase a 1977 Rolls-Royce from an older gentleman that had some medical issues and wanted to get rid of it fast... The car was mint and it had relatively low miles but I decided not to buy it because of the ‘expense’ to own it reasons... boy do I regret not buying that. Thanks for the videos
Reassuring on the maintenance, and I agree that comments from strangers or friends and associates, or put aside when you consider your own driving experience and love of cars. Other people see you for 15 seconds, in fact you only see your own car for that long in the parking lot or on the street or in your own driveway or garage, but you do spend a minimum of an hour round-trip and that’s the most important
I've spent $5K in maintenance for my 2007 Mercedes CL550 after 4 years. Your vids give me confidence to buy a used Arnage, because its always been a car I've wanted and have been skeptical to buy because of very few indie service shops in Austin TX.
Bentley should not be too much more than your MB. Another person reached out to me from Austin with the same complaint about indie Bentley specialists.
I'm a big fan of the Continental. I think it would be a fun daily driver, but I don't have that sort of experience. I don't really drive any car daily because I work from home.
Very enjoyable and informative. I am a Brit living in the USA and can well relate to the apprehension{fear!} that you encountered when considering the purchase of this magnificent car. Long ago in England I was considering purchasing a Rover 3Litre but chickened out when I considered the repair bills even thought a test drive revealed nothing but a superb ride - ah, the luxury of it all! I regret not taking the plunge these years later.
kilerkg it's not just the seafoam. It's for labor, diagnosis, and most importantly knowledge so ~$180 is rather cheap. Lucked out big time there. Your mechanic is good.
Got an Alfa GT 2006 for 4 years. Maintenance costs exceeded the purchase cost, so overall I spent twice the money on the car . But still loved it! You only live once, so counting money on things you desperately want to own, but don't dare to, isn't worth it. Had so much fun with the car, that the next one to buy will definitely be something rare and exotic. I'm not scared anymore! Wish You good luck with your Bentley, and let's encourage more people to get out of the box and drive stuff that makes you feel better than a leased Prius!
Good on you .... that is one classy vehicle.. modern mechanics love to put the shits on you when you turn up with a Bentley but in truth these very high end cars cost no more than a Lexus to run.. $750 + for a pollen filter change!!! PLEASE
Ha, great review. I also took the plunge and brought a 2005 Bentley continental gt and have to admit the first few months of worrying were a little exhausting. But now I just enjoy all that power, it's addictive. Love my Bentley. It pure class. Liked and subscribed. John
Believe it or not, my first gen VW Touareg actually shares a lot of the same components with the Continental (such as the transmission, electronics, interior pieces) and were co-developed together with the Phaeton. The transmissions are pretty reliable, but you will eventually need to replace the valve body with an updated one. The electronics in these cars can go absolutely haywire, but have a lot of nice features. The models before 2006 have issues with the Kessy module (smart key system), but the modules have updated versions available. One pet peeve that I have is that the scroll wheel on the steering wheel doesn't let you scroll through your radio presets, only the nearest station. If you want to use your presets, you'll have to reach over to the softkeys on the side of the screen. Once you update the failure prone parts in the early models, they're actually quite reliable vehicles
I'm passionate about the English Jaguar XJ-S HE pre-facelift (1981-1992). Had one of 1982. Beautiful but high maintenance! So unreliable but so beautiful you forgive her faults.
This is an interesting video. Mega kudos to you for doing most of the maintenance yourself to keep costs down! A lot of people don't realize it but, for the most part, a car is a car. Plus, that very first service would've come to a grand total of $9 (rather than $530) if you'd bought a gallon Prestone! Just a side-note: I owned a '07 DB9 Volante for three years and had nearly all of the regular maintenance done at a local service station (I only used the dealer for hard-to-diagnose electrical glitches and failed sensors). Like you, I bought all the parts from the internet and, overall, ownership costs were lower than I expected. Unfortunately, new problems always kept developing and I simply grew frustrated that the car spent more time in the shop than in my possession (that's actually true).
You can find a red label arnage for ~ 20k here in the UK. We bought ours really damaged (engine caught fire) but it's finally ready. It's so cool knowing that you have such a luxurious car + it can do 450bhp which is almost as much as our 2016 m4
I have a 1989 Bentley Turbo R and a 1997 Bentley Turbo R. You don’t buy these cars to “show off”. You buy a good example and you simply enjoy the excellent build quality and the massive amount of torque and power these engines have. It’s all about how these machines drive and operate and what they accomplish for being 5600 lbs.
Don't know why you bentley and rolls fan boys always mention the weight like it some kind of feat of super human effort.
1976 Town Car was 5300 lbs. big deal.
Oh, and I didn't have to rebuild my entire suspension on my town car after only 50k miles. Like a Bentley.
@@rockymntdan1yea but he has a quality car not just some Lincoln lmao
@@DanielBenzs65AMG You're kidding right?
Lincoln's don't need complete rebuilds after only 50k. They may nickel and dime you to death with broken switches and minor things, but you're not REBUILDING THE ENTIRE SUSPENSION.
I prefer your generation bentleys. I think they are called SZ series. They seem less complicated and more DIY friendly. Which of your two cars do you prefer
Bentley Arnage is one of the most beautiful cars ever created, ever...
Side profile of the car is insanely gangster.
How can a car depreciate so much?!
@@ntwalipat2 maintance costs..
yes
True true - which cars have a simmilar gangster appearance? Thinking about W140 S-Class - but are there others? Opinions?
@@Vontharau4786 sec Benz
I blame this channel for me browsing used Bentleys with intent to buy :)
Mission accomplished! Buyer's guide coming soon...
JoshsWorld.com problem being that in Finland where I live, 03 Arnage T with 70 000km is still €69 000. Which is a stretch for mid-income family guy, even when I can do much of the maintenance myself.
Now that I need to see !!!
same I keep browsing used Bentleys haha
Juha PIEVILAINEN, love your comment
This review was cool. Honest and realistic. Made me a subscriber.
Thanks for subscribing! 👍
Me, too!
You just made me a Subs!
They are very hard to find. My 7th grade history teacher had a Bentley Azure convertible in a burgundy color he drove to school. Retired from real-estate/development and taught for fun. What an amazing car.
Azure is an amazing car.
When I was kid I wanted always S-class Mercedes Benz. Now i have second one going. First was W220 and now i have W221. I am now travelling from Finland, Rovaniemi to Ukraine, Poltava 7000km (4350mi) trip. We are just going back to Finland with W221. Now in Ukraine, Lutsk at hotel. S-class is so smooth to drive that i'm not tired at all after this days 750km (488mi) ride from Poltava. Awesome car.
Excellent! Sounds like a great adventure!
Great to see you after a year. We just took a leap of faith and bought a 2006 Flying Spur with 18K miles on it. Let me just say that it's the first car in many years that I actually feel passionate about!
This is truly my dream car I want one so bad. Such a motivator to become more successful in reaching my goals and my dreams I want one really bad and once I find the right one I will have my dream in my driveway. Thanks for posting this video it motivates me to push to get one even harder
Excellent! Stay motivated!
JoshsWorld.com i’m going to be launching a very cool website that’s going to be called AmericanBusinessReviews.com. It’s going to be a special website for people to post positive reviews about their own business without censorship. Businesses will be in control of comments that get posted they will be able to approve or decline any comments to get posted on the reviews that the business puts up on the website.
Excellent 'real world' owner review of this rather nice car. Oddly, the aged Arnage looks more classy and special now than a decade and a half ago.
Yes, the car has aged nicely. Thanks for your comments.
It's weird how I'm starting to look at cars over a decade old and they do look more interesting now than they did then.
JoshsWorld.com Glad you did a honest review of a average person owning a Bentley! I'm right now shopping to buy a Continental GT , against everyone's advice,that I'm making a mistake! Don't care,just want to have the experience like you have. Wish me luck!
Yes because the new card all look like bubbles, balloons, goofy looking plastic junk
@@americanking3320 buy the convertible...... go and drive one first. Very impressive
May 17, 2021
I agree with Josh.
I purchased a very niceley optioned 2009 Arnage R in 2017 as the second owner with 3,800 miles from new, which cost about $274,000 new out the door from Braman Motors in Palm Beach, FL. It's now approaching 10,000 miles with no mechanical issues. It now lives in Orange County, CA.
Note: the Bentley's will need new shocks at roughly 40,000 miles, which cost $2,000 each for parts, not including installation. It needs Pirelli P Zero's to carry the weight and speed rating of around 178 MPH. It also will require repair or replacement of rear spheres at about the same mileage.
Beware of too little mileage use if shopping for a Bentley, as non-use is worse than misuse or deferred maintenance. I wouldn't buy a 2000 series Arnage with less than 10,000 miles because you don't know if they were early miles or later miles, which means you don't know if the car has been sitting around for years without being driven. This car needs exercise regularly. Run at least 30 minutes at freeway speed at least monthly. Keep battery trickle charge on the car as batteries (2 of them) will run down in less than a week, then all hell breaks loose. I'm using a CTEC model, which is the brand that Bentley badged when selling the car new.
Only 2008 and 2009 Arnages have the head gasket leakage and cam bearing wear problems fixed, along with a a GM six-speed tranny. They are functionally identical cars. Facelift occurred at 2005 when the headlights lost the glass covering. Cherry '09's R models, nicely optioned are running around $90k with under 15,000 miles. Many for sale which do not have options. Rear picnic tables and rear vanity mirrors are a must for resale sustainability. If over 40,000 miles, insist on road testing the car and confirm maintenance records on suspension items. These are more than a passing DIY project. Plus, you'll have some recourse if the mechanic screws up instead of suing yourself for damages.
There were 150 Final Series cars made, nearly all of them double black with upgraded stereo and special badging and perhaps a hotter chip. Some other extra do-dahs that will impress your friends, but otherwise be useless, such as a a refrigerator in between the back seat arm rests, a cocktail decanter and champagne flues in back of the front seats. These are marketed as premium cars, but they're not usually worth the extra money, unless you want a black car, which is the most popular (least original) color, which looks like a Darth Vader mobile. That's if you're into intimidating cars. And you'll have to wash it twice a week even if it's in the garage. That is, if you don't have a chauffeur.
Retractable radio antennas regularly fail as factory OEMs were defective quality. Make sure the antenna is working before you buy your car. I didn't know this, and replacement cost me about $550 from independent garage in Los Angeles.
Mine is double Magnolia. Only three of this color combination '09 R's brought into North America according to Bentley factory records.
Most common color combination is double black. This does not make for a unique car, other than it is a Bentley. The '09 model year was the last of the classic 5-gauge cluster dashboard design.
Note to manage your expectations: The rear view camera and navigation system is completely useless. The sun visors do not disengage for swinging over the driver's side window. The center console may not have cup holders because there's no way you can have cups in the center console and also lower the center arm rests. Get used to no cup holders. Besides, no proper Bentley owner would drive with coffee inside the leather covered car anyway. Can't fill up at Costco because their pumps are set at full capacity to save fill up time. The Bentley can't take full volume, so shuts off almost immediately. Go to another gas station and set pump speed at lowest setting and take your time. It's a Bentley, for Pete's sake. You're never in a hurry. Side mirrors are nearly useless. Too small for full view of right side of car. Make lane changes VERY carefully, check twice.
Always drive around a corner extra slow. That's an unwritten law of Bentley owners. Let them have a good look at you.
NEVER look out the window at a stop light to see at who's looking at you. It's so amateurish of new Bentley owners. Image it's only one of several cars in your collection. No big deal. CON'T BE A JERK. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT BEING A JERK. You're driving an elegant car. Act like ladies and gentlemen who amongst ladies and gentlemen. It will surprise everyone who will be expecting a jerk.
Be extra courteous as a Bentley driver. People are looking at you as if you're a snob or privileged. Set a good example for others as drive courteously and always give a pedestrian extra right of way. Give thanks to other drivers who give you the right of way or allow you to make a generously gracious lane change.
As a new Bentley owner, you'll be owning a PMC. This is an inside owner's term for a Bentley or Rolls, which stands for "proper motor car." Join the Rolls Royce Owner's Club, which also covers Bentley's. They're a great organization.
Budget around $5,000 per year on average for repairs. That's everyone's best advice. If you can't afford it, make more money then buy your Bentley. Set it aside as a contingency fund.
Change the oil more frequently than required. I use MOTUL and buy from Amazon. It uses standard $15 oil filters. No Mobil 1. Also, do not use ordinary brake fluid. This car uses mineral oil only. If you use brake fluid, you will have to drain it all out and you'll be sorry. Make sure your local mechanic knows this and doesn't "top off" your brake system with ordinary brake fluid.
Most parts are available from Flying Spares in the UK. They are very helpful and courteous. If you join the RROC, their monthly magazine offers many U.S. based parts suppliers. I've changed both pollen and cabin filters purchased from Flying Spares.
I've had NO adverse comments or gestures from others. Mostly, an occasional sincere comment of appreciation, like "nice car" or thumbs up on the freeway. I always thank them graciously in some manner.
Jay Leno advises in his Bentley Turbo R video, "Act like you know somebody." I'm not sure that works for me.
Finally, i think that a cheap Bentley is the most expensive you'll ever buy.
Enjoy your Bentley!
PS. Look for a video coming soon on Her Majesty, my PMC.
Wow! Thank you for sharing so much about your experience. You bring up a lot of great points. I especially like the point "Don't be a jerk." Great advice regardless of your car!
Lesson #1, Doug doesn't know it all after all. Life is short to worry about what strangers think about you. Your happiness is priceless!
Classic Bentley, you have arrived, stunning Bristish Luxury.
Thank you!
I have a 2000 Bentley Arnage Red Label. Cost £22,000 (28,000 USD) in UK and has 31,000 miles on the clock. Absolutely agree with Josh - "Bentley Therapy" is real and brings a smile to my face every time. Maintainence? I have found a local Bentley Independent garage that does proper Bentley/Rolls work for a fraction of the normal specialist price. Eureka!! Could not recommend these car s highly enough if you get a good one. Fabulous.
Excellent! Finding a local specialist is probably the biggest hurdle for most potential buyers.
I bought a 2005 W220 S 500 long wheelbase a year ago with the same kind of fears. So far the repair and service costs have been 400€ in 10 months and over 10 000 miles. My friends love arriving in places in a black S class with soft-close doors and a driver (me) to open the doors -we don't have valet services in many places in Finland. The price for the car is about a third of the Bentley and it still amazes me how the car puts a smile on my face every single day - and how it still gathers so much attention while arriving in public places.
This was an excellent video, I am so happy for you!
Thanks for watching! Keep enjoying your beautiful car!
Long trips. Driving becomes a pleasant option when you consider the way airports and airlines treat people now.
It's better than first class!
Glad you made this beautiful choice . Beautiful car. Its simply beautiful. Enjoy the car. Its hard to ignore the presence on 1974 Bentley. This is 40 years younger! Enjoy and keep us posted please.
Thanks! I sold the car in December of 2019 after over 3 years of ownership. It was a terrific car for me.
Randomly came across your video! Wishing you a happy motoring. Lovely and classy Bentley!
Thanks for watching!
3:42 the moment i decided to sub.
altair1983 hahhh same
I saw one of these at the car auctions on Friday. I literally knew NOTHING about this car. I wouldn't call myself a car guy but I have never had feelings towards a car until I saw an arnage. I was mesmerized. It sold for around £18500 if I recall. Such a hidden gem.
The car certainly has an emotional draw... welcome to the club!
At 250 k it isn't that nice looking, at 50 it's drop dead gorges
Haha! Good point.
LOL
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Everette Singleton You want to drop that gorgeous car in a gorge?
I'd take it over the Seraph any day.
Another great one. After 8 years of ownership of my 2002 I found mostly the service costs experience as you have. You do however have to stay on top of it, which it looks like you do. Steering column is a big one and spheres, thought not as big, are a necessary evil every few years. Also, watch out for window regulators, they are plagued by tiny plastic bits that can wear out or can be chewed up if the windows are not properly reset after a dead or swapped battery. Overall, enjoy and keep up the good work on the videos.
Beautiful car.. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Nice car indeed . I thought the Arnage T had over 500 hp ? Hope you have many miles with a smile on your face .
JoshsWorld.com was looking at the Bentley since I have a panamera but I also have a 06 m45 sport just like urs that I daily drive...
JoshsWorld.com what are the things u have to get to on the 06 m45 I'm curious too know
JoshsWorld.com love ur 06 m45sport and the arnage !!!
Love it! Oddly enough your findings go directly in line with people I know and have spoken to who carefully choose, buy and own Bentley and Rolls Royce products. I suspect a lot of the horror stories are either people who purchased cheep (or shoddy) examples, or even more likely have never owned one.
You nailed it!
Well, plus most people are intimidated by DIY maintenance, especially on newer computerized cars, and would be forced to pay a lot more for repairs.
nice! Did the same thing with my 1990 e32 735i. Bought it with 33,000 miles one owner and love having a classic BMW experience. Cost have been low and I am in year 5!!! I just love this car. Do what you love, joy will follow. Great video
Sounds like a sweet ride, Vincent! Enjoy it!
"It's just me" no sir, you're a hero and true nobility in the car world because you picked from the highest branch and avoided the low hanging fruit most sadly aspire to LOL
Haha! That's too much!
this vid was great. Now I want one Arnage T too. You earned one happy subscriber.
Thanks!
I enjoyed a similar halo from owning an old Mercedes S-Class. Most people have no clue how old it is. (And in the case of MB the old ones are far better anyway.)
Can i ask what experience as far as maintenance?.....Love the 95-99 S500 but have hear horror stories
I am passionate in saying that the Arnage is one of my absolute favorite vehicles. Girlfriend and I saw one a couple of weeks ago while visiting Charleston, SC. I pulled her across the street and said, "Baby, this is an irrational bucket list car for next year, I'm going to loose my wallet on one of these."
Thrilled to see more "average consumers" like myself are leading the charge and doing videos like this. Thank you so much Josh.
Go for it. Hopefully your girlfriend supports it! What's the worst that could happen: you lose your wallet. You're not risking your life or health. You only live once.
Great Video. I'm a firm believer that if you look after your car, you can pre-empt any major issues and I say that as a current TVR owner and a soon to be, Arnage owner...
Excellent! Reach out to me on my website sometime and let me know about your Arnage experience!
I am totally in line with your line of thinking about finally dropping fear and taking the plunge and committing to what you want while truly learning to place no weight upon caring what others may or may not think of you while enjoying your car.
I was 22 when I bought my 1st Porsche 928 in 1994 and my 2nd one in 1999 after the first owner(s) took the hit in depreciation. I thoroughly enjoyed them and appreciated their excellence.
Excellent! Cars are to be enjoyed!
Exactly! Most people who talk negative aren't DIY guys to begin with. 😁😁
Plenty of people I see that daily-drive old luxury cars from the 90s or even 80s everyday.
Yep. They can be great cars when you take care of them.
You are absolutely spot on with respect to maintenance costs. It is SO much cheaper to do it yourself, and we have youtube at our disposal so it's really not hard to do. I own an out of warranty BMW which granted, it's not as expensive to maintain as a Bentley, but it's still higher than average. I've saved thousands of dollars maintaining it myself rather than going to a certified BMW mechanic. On top of that I've learnt basic mechanical skills which will save me money on every other car I own in the future. Oil change due? Done. Radiator flush needed? No problem. New breaks? Easy. And it's actually fun and rewarding to do.
Fortunately for you, the TH-cam and online community is much larger for BMW. The Arnage community is pretty small, but I hope to help change that! I'm adding my own DIY videos as projects arise.
3:27 You're damned right! Pull up in front of a Ritz-Carlton and you are ASSURED that your Arnage is not being sent away to join the Infiniti crowd in the Valet lot. Your Arnage, will still be AT THE FRONT DOOR when you are ready to leave!
Snobbery level x100.
I'll pull up in my f150 and get the same treatment. These valet drivers aren't impressed by a 20 year old car.
So glad you came up with this video. Totally agree, too many people create fear for owning these types of cars.
Thanks! Fear is a powerful motivator... and it keeps the prices low on these cars... which is great for me!
Great series! Been here from the start. I was looking at buying one and then your series started and I have held off while you do the testing for me. I feel more confident now, thank you
Thanks for watching! Yes, you've been here since I first started making the Bentley videos! I appreciate your comments. 👍
i have a 2009 Arnage R, double magnolia. Love this car. Having the same experiences as you explain in this video. Based in Orange County, CA. Bought the car last August with 3,800 miles on it. Has some issues, being purchased and living in Florida, but i'm loving the ownership experience.
Awesome video. I had a smaller budget because I'm in my upper 20s but four years ago I bought a 1997 BMW 740iL for $5K. It was $105,000 new in 2017 money and everyone warned me of impending financial disaster. In 4 years it actually did need lots of suspension parts changed and intake related gaskets but all were DIY thanks to the forums. I would buy it again in a heartbeat and the pleasures are many owning a car that is still very much a $105,000 car! Btw, we have the same 4.4L BMW engine, yours is twin turbo'd and we have the same ZF 5hp-30 transmission!
Thanks! Those are great cars. The earlier Arnage Green Label cars shared your car's drivetrain. By 2004, Bentley had already switched to the 6.75 liter Rolls-Royce V8. It still shares some components with the BMW. The climate control system is from BMW, as well as some other parts.
All the smart guys and gals I see on TH-cam who have greatly depreciated six figure luxury vehicles is good and honest independent technician
'That looks like a Bentley'. Enough to make you cry. Very nice car and good luck with your continued ownership.
Haha! Thanks!
I subscribed immediately. This video reminds me as I was a young student and bought e38 bmw. Almost everybody told me I was an idiot getting a 7 series at such young age... A cheap old luxurious bmw wasn't a money pit and stayed with me for 8 long years
Thanks for subscribing! Glad you proved everybody wrong!
Some cars are just scary to purchase. You're a brave man, and you got rewarded with a nicely running Bentley :)
It is so interesting to hear of your experience. I watched many hours of TH-cam videos before buying my Saphire 2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur. I am not much for DIY, but I found a local shop that specializes in Bentley, Audi, Porshe and Bugatti. They are one third the cost of the Bentley dealership. Their clientele also has them work on customers" Mercedes, BMW, and Ferraris. I bought the car from the Bentley dealership. It was beautiful with 65,000 miles on it. Except for the poor gas mileage, I LOVE it.
Last week, I drove my neighbor and his family to the airport. I wore a black tuxedo, white shirt and bowtie. I had a lot of fun. I put the car away for the winter (Minnesota). I had only one service related problem that was no big deal. I'm glad I'm not the only car nut to take a chance!
I am glad you are enjoying your Flying Spur. I often look at those for sale.. very tempting.
This is the best video ever posted on the TH-cam since TH-cam onpend in 1988.
You're exactly right. I was just a small kid on the grand opening of TH-cam. I sat on my dad's shoulders and caught a glimpse of the founder, Mr. Carl. P. TH-cam. Best day of my life.
I agree...well tied for first with the hippo that farts for 20 seconds.
Great work Josh. I have been driving a VW Phaeton since 2007 which is a Bentley GT with a VW badge with an Audi A8 drive train. It has been the best car I have ever driven. Granted the last service was $5,800.00 but that included new brakes and serpentine belt. This was at 75,000 miles. Before that the costs have been minimal. These high end cars, if chosen carefully, can be very reliable transportation. Be ready to spend larger sums of money periodically but the joy of driving these machines far outweighs any costs now and then.
Those are I great cars, I liked them from the start.
I'm psyched, thanks for posting! I'm also 6'3", wear glasses, and love my t-shirts and snacks. I've been looking at getting an Arnage for a good while now, and the 2005-2009 model has really dropped recently. I think I'm going to pull the trigger when the economy collapses next, usually you see used luxury car prices plummet after crashes.
6'3", wear glasses, and love my t-shirts and snacks... it sounds like you're good at computers too. 😂 Good luck on your search! Keep me posted.
Hey you forget to mention your blood group 🤣
A friend of mine bought a new Arnage, in silver. When I saw him in a coupe i asked "you havnt bought another one?" The reply was " no, it just went in for its first service and this is a courtesy car". Bentley in England look after their customers....................
Thanks a lot for your videos , this one particularly . I'm about to buy a Bentley too but a 1980 T2 and I'm taking my time to find one in mint conditions because the key is to avoid a cheap one that will for sure cost a fortune in the future rather than the well cared will offer peace of mind and confort....Keep going Bentley ;-)
Beautiful car. A well maintained/serviced low mileage example should pose few problems. I'm from the UK and have worked on IT projects at the Bentley factory in Crewe. The cars are lovingly made and it is a real treat for a car lover to walk along the production line and see the engines being fitted, the cabins with all the wood veneer and leather being put in place. I've looked at buying one myself, but I live in the UK so the cost of petrol is much more of a stumbling block than in the US! Enjoy it.
Cool! I would love to visit the factory some time.
i have the identical car in HK but it’s older 2001. it’s just done 27k. i find running cost nothing compared to the pure joy i get from owning it, i’m keeping mine till the wheels fall off.
Excellent, enjoy it!
Great vid. Same experience when I bought a Merc CL600 against popular opinion. No regrets.
Thanks for watching!
Like it or not, Josh, when the 300 first came out, I heard many people say that it looked like a Bentley.
Oh I know. It's one of the reasons I liked the 300 (don't tell anybody I said that).
Keith Coppage even my mom confused it for a bently lol
*Tries to look like a bentley
I drive a silver 05’ 300 touring, and I can’t see the resemblance. Ik in 05’ alot of rappers, wannabes rapper, and hood rich guys had one. I’ve also seen people replace the grills and add other cosmetic items to make it look even more like a Bentley, but I still can’t see the resemblance.
Lol ok....ok .....lol 👌
@5:55 It has the potential but that does not necessarily mean you encounter issues. It is a gamble.
Life is a gamble!
1st Gen Oldsmobile Auroras. May not be great cars or even good cars in the scheme of things today, but growing up was my favorite that still brings back great memories. I remember my dad and I looking/buying one for him back in 1998 vividly. My first real car love!
Keep it up Josh!
Those were cutting edge when they came out. A unique choice 👍
Jake Kennedy - Back then, I collected a ton of car catalogs. Olds sent me an awesome hard bound book and video set on the new Aurora. The only other piece of literature to rival it was the spiral bound book they sent me on the Bravada oddly enough. None of the manufacturers go all out with promotional literature like that anymore.
My first car was in 2000 it was a 95 aurora with autobahn package. Great car put over 200k on it
Excellent video, I own a Bentley Continental GT, and like you I was apprehensive about purchasing a ten year old vehicle with high maintenance costs. I have owned the Bentley Continental GT for three years and do my own maintenance. However the Bentley dealer is not inclined to be very helpful in giving me diagnostic trouble codes, for instance the TPMS codes for what I have learned from other Bentley aficionados (Canadian owner's sharing information) I appreciate the attention to detail that the Bentley Boy's in Crewe Cheshire England. These cars are landmarks and in many ways set the standard for other car manufacturers. All one needs to do to fall in love with a Bentley is to drive 600 miles in the car. Thank you for the video. I have owned many nice automobiles. A comparable German car, is a Mercedes-Benz CL550 or CL 600, which have owned. IMHO the Bentley shows far greater attention to detail and craftsmanship than the Mercedes-Benz. Get the best of England and Germany together and you have the capability of creative teamwork and amazing results.
600 miles? I bet it only takes 6 minutes to fall in love with these cars! 👍 Thanks for watching!
GREAT VIDEO ,
YOU MADE THE LEAP AND MANY WILL FOLLOW .I HAVE A NORMAL INCOME AND DOWN TO EARTH GUY ,BUT I LIKE QUALITY OVER QUANTITY .I BROUGHT MY BROTHERS JAGUAR XJ6 - AS A WEEKEND CAR AND LOVED IT AND NO REAL PROBLEM . AFTER MANY YEARS OWNERSHIP I HAVE DECIDED A NICE MERCEDES WILL BE MY NEXT WEEKEND AND LONGTERM CAR - BULLETPROOF AND FUN TO DRIVE .WHY BUY NEW WHEN WE CAN HAVE A GREAT CAR SECONDHAND AND SPEND LESS .
Exactly! Thanks for watching.
Rarely do I comment but what a great, refreshingly honest video 👍
I appreciate your comment. Thanks.
Great video. It's stuff like this that keeps me inspired to my dream cars and away from caving in to buy the latest cheap Japanese offerings.
Awesome!
I’m passionate about the Ford windstar.
I purchased my windstar for 250.00 and have already drove it 3000 miles I’m using this van for my window cleaning business and love it’s size and power!
I highly recommend the ford windstar!!
That's awesome that you got such a great deal... and even better that you are taking advantage of that value for your business. 👍
Your Bentley oozes class over nearly every other car on the road. Thats got to be worth the price of ownership.
Very happy to have stumbled on this video. I am on the cusp of making the decision you just walked me through. Researching Bentley Arnage with the same concerns you just articulated. Many, many thanks.
One question ... insurance?
That's what will kill this dream here in the UK. When it costs nearly £1,000 per year to insure something as lowly as a Ford Focus, walk into a car insurers here and say "how much will it cost to insure my Bentley Arnage?", the insurance rep is already thinking "month's holiday in the Seychelles paid for with the commission".
That's terrible. I have an entire video addressing the insurance expense.
Thank you for making these awesome videos! I’ve been trying to upgrade my daily driver to a ten year old Maserati Quattroporte, and being a 19 myself, year old everyone’s told me it’s insane, and I’ll never be able to afford the maintenance on it. I’m glad I’m not the only one willing to take the risk!!
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely love that car, one of my all time favourites.
Me too! 👍
Sweet! My old Mercedes-Benz E320 from 2004 used to eat about 1200$ per year in maintenance. That is a beautiful car with a superior quality interior and comfort!
$187 for pouring in a can of Seafoam? Anyway, I'd totally buy a pristine, low mileage Bentley at that price.
D LG any other mechanic would have lied and charged a grand.
Maybe so, but that doesn't mean this 'repair' was worth $187.
D LG Yes it was worth. your not paying for the can , your paying for his expertise in knowing how to work on a $250,000 automobile. I agree it's a lot of money, but it's a darn Bentley!!!! 187.00 is cheap.....
George Hurtado
The problem with your mindset...is that it is all too common. It is the conditioned thought process of the age of the internal combustion engine. That being... that you should be prepared to pay more for servicing and repair of your vehicle based on the price and perceived prestige. The dawn of the electric car is about to take that mindset and the internal combustion engine with it into oblivion.
A Netizen Relax,,,,,there is no problem with my mindset just like I don't think there is a problem with yours crying over a bill I feel us justified due to the mechanics experience on a niche product.
I own a 2007 GT, and at 90000 kms, it’s due for front brake pads, which I intend to do myself. I replaced the front air shocks with help from my brother at a DIY garage and saved myself a fortune. Did my own oil and filter change 4 months ago, and saved a packet there. So far, so good.
Excellent! In the end, it's just a car!
Looks great in silver
Thanks!
Nah british racing green
if I was still buying cars (not selling them off) that's what I'd get. When are you going to sell it?
We were considering a used Bentley Arnage but opted in stead for an Audi A8L. We love it!
The A8L is a great car. Nice purchase!
Happy new year. can't wait to see what videos you make next year!
More videos coming...
I do like the styling compared to BMW Rolls thingy, it's timeless. I know you feel. When my wife and I owned a Jaguar X-Type, which was upgraded for an 2006 XJ6 2.7, you did feel special when you turned up to hotels or to restaurants. People would comment on beautiful the XJ6 was. Alas it had to go due to the DPF going wrong again. At least the gentleman who purchased the car put it back on the road, and I still have my '65 Humber which also has the same special magic, pity about cost of petrol and low MPG etc. Keep on rocking!
Thanks! Jags catch my eye a lot for sure.
That is a really gorgeous car. Love its retro-design. I really like the new Bentleys and this would make a great "beater" .
Life is good if you have a beater Bentley. 😁
Wow, you have an honest mechanic! Amazing!!!
I want an Azure and/or Corniche from the early 2000’s but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Those have been my dream cars since I was 20 years old
One year!! Time flies in the lap of luxury
Thanks, Tim. Keep those videos coming!
Tim's Enthusiast Garage which isn’t always a good thing
What an excellent video with clear concise narrative and no waffle. A pleasure to watch.
Thank you for the kind feedback!
love the vids
Airforceproud95 didn't expect to see you here lol
농부 same
You thinking of getting a bentley?
Airforceproud95 wat are you doing here, we're ready for take off
Airforceproud95 Didn't expect to see airproduct69 here
Really enjoyed watching that. A refreshingly normal review of something by a normal person. Not just spouting myths and legends about Bentley,giving a balanced picture of ownership was good to hear. I fear that (in the real world) as prices of this era of Bentley keep falling, some eventual owners will not pay the money for inevitable repairs, so many will be lost until prices start to rise again
Thanks for watching... I glad you think I'm "a normal person" 😂
my god I still believe the headlight looks the best.
Josh: Watched this video. Within the month bought a '99 Arnage Green. Right now happy as hell. Thanks.
A success story! Glad you are enjoying it! Post some videos or reach out to me on my website to share your experience.
You killed me at 3:46 🤣😂
sdboy72 I fuckn fell out😂😂😂😂😂
Here because I am seriously pondering an Arnage T for the price of a Honda Accord. Love it. Thanks alot. Good to see people being honest with themselves. Glad this car has been a catalyst for positive change to you.
My money's on you simply because you are scrupulously attending to all maintenance concerns before they become actual maintenance concerns. Stay vigilant.
Well said. He's literally paying himself with cost savings, and people don't normally do that.
what heap of $hit car. You bought it at 30,000 miles..... a distance that would not bother any "lower class car".... but since then, you have:
- had "2 unscheduled trips".... already a bad sign
- Low coolant but no leaks? Oh yes, of course it must have evaporated - keep your eye on it
- Rough idle.... Mmmm, at 30,000 miles? Has it been serviced regularly? If so - this is a crap fault. "Sea Foam"... gee lucky he thought of that because he was probably knocking off crap buildup around your valves or similar from a fundamentally $hitfully engineered engine.... In the old days, I used to gently pour water into the intake of my crappy 1600 ford escort whilst revving it when it ran like $hit - the water turned to steam and blew off carbon buildup around "bits that should never get carbon buildup" - and hence make your engine idle like $hit similarly. If you didn't find this guy.... you would have sunk into BIG $ right there
- over $700 for AC filter changes when it really only costs $100..... that tells you that this car maker thinks its customers are idiots.
- Ohhhh, then you got a faulty coolant indicator...... Wow? Ok, once again they would have ripped you through the guts if you didn't fix it yourself. Isn't it getting a bit embarrassing at this point?
- And then you say you have some rather large expense items that will put the Bentley back in the specialist garage???? Jesus - there's more faults at 30,000 miles???? BUT, luckily you have found people to tell you how to avoid the said garage and fix (even more???) problems cheaper?
- And then you finally let us know what your fundamental problem is ....... Perceived "Image"....
- "maybe the car has the potential to ruin me financially".... YES
My dad was stupid enough to buy a Rolls Royce silver shadow 20 years ago....... hahahahahahahaha - biggest heap of automotive $hit on this planet and swallowed tens of thousands of dollars. Go on.... keep it for 20 years and keep telling us how many things %$#@ed up for our amusement. YOU WILL GO BROKE
@@anthonyspanjich2772 so much passion relax
And check the fluid levels BEFORE the light comes on and ESPECIALLY after it comes on. 😉
What a lovely car: my cheapie is a S350 LWB 2004. Since I learned of the gear that wears out by 95,000 klms in the V6 (obviously I did not do my homework), I plan to trade it in on a S500 LWB.
I have absolutely loved driving myself and at times my family in total comfort especially the long distances are very easy on the body.
By the way to fix the gear problem in the engine, the engine must come out! Big bucks there! Yes I have had to do some repairs, but none were extremely expensive as I used a non branded repairer who have been in business for ages...the boss is SO knowledgeable. He advised on the S500 as this problem does not exist. You must understand when buying a car such as this; you need the money set aside for when things break down....not if.
I bought the car accepting this right from the start.
The gear is for the harmonic balancer. The material has improved in the gear; but for how long I do not know.
Yes, being prepared for those expenses is important. Thanks for watching!
OMG! I JUST subscribed because you said, "... but it's just me."
Haha! Thanks for the sub!
About 15 years ago I had the Opportunity to purchase a 1977 Rolls-Royce from an older gentleman that had some medical issues and wanted to get rid of it fast... The car was mint and it had relatively low miles but I decided not to buy it because of the ‘expense’ to own it reasons... boy do I regret not buying that.
Thanks for the videos
That would have been cool to have.
I just subbed. This channel is about to blow up.
Thanks, Stepheon! 👍
Reassuring on the maintenance, and I agree that comments from strangers or friends and associates, or put aside when you consider your own driving experience and love of cars. Other people see you for 15 seconds, in fact you only see your own car for that long in the parking lot or on the street or in your own driveway or garage, but you do spend a minimum of an hour round-trip and that’s the most important
There is no project that isn't DIY eligible. It's just a car.
I've spent $5K in maintenance for my 2007 Mercedes CL550 after 4 years. Your vids give me confidence to buy a used Arnage, because its always been a car I've wanted and have been skeptical to buy because of very few indie service shops in Austin TX.
Bentley should not be too much more than your MB. Another person reached out to me from Austin with the same complaint about indie Bentley specialists.
JoshsWorld.com Hi, any thoughts about Bentley Continental as daily driver? you can get one for 50-65k pounds here in england with low miles...
I'm a big fan of the Continental. I think it would be a fun daily driver, but I don't have that sort of experience. I don't really drive any car daily because I work from home.
Haha the sneaky subscriber counter at 2:34! Seems legit.
Haha! Over 100k views on this video and you are the first person to comment on that! Well done.
Very enjoyable and informative. I am a Brit living in the USA and can well relate to the apprehension{fear!} that you encountered when considering the purchase of this magnificent car. Long ago in England I was considering purchasing a Rover 3Litre but
chickened out when I considered the repair bills even thought a test drive revealed nothing but a superb ride - ah, the luxury of
it all! I regret not taking the plunge these years later.
You only live once.
Holy shit that's one expensive can of sea foam 👀
Yes, that's one way to look at it! 😂
kilerkg it's not just the seafoam. It's for labor, diagnosis, and most importantly knowledge so ~$180 is rather cheap. Lucked out big time there. Your mechanic is good.
Got an Alfa GT 2006 for 4 years. Maintenance costs exceeded the purchase cost, so overall I spent twice the money on the car . But still loved it! You only live once, so counting money on things you desperately want to own, but don't dare to, isn't worth it. Had so much fun with the car, that the next one to buy will definitely be something rare and exotic. I'm not scared anymore! Wish You good luck with your Bentley, and let's encourage more people to get out of the box and drive stuff that makes you feel better than a leased Prius!
Right on!
Good on you .... that is one classy vehicle.. modern mechanics love to put the shits on you when you turn up with a Bentley but in truth these very high end cars cost no more than a Lexus to run.. $750 + for a pollen filter change!!! PLEASE
Ha, great review. I also took the plunge and brought a 2005 Bentley continental gt and have to admit the first few months of worrying were a little exhausting. But now I just enjoy all that power, it's addictive. Love my Bentley. It pure class. Liked and subscribed. John
Congrats on your purchase! Enjoy the ride.
I dream about owning a Bentley Flying Spur approx. 10 years old. Josh do you believe it would be a similar experience?
Yes, I met the owner of a Flying Spur and he said his experience was similar to mine.
Danske Salmer arnage it better. I don’t think flying spur have the tray table.
Believe it or not, my first gen VW Touareg actually shares a lot of the same components with the Continental (such as the transmission, electronics, interior pieces) and were co-developed together with the Phaeton. The transmissions are pretty reliable, but you will eventually need to replace the valve body with an updated one. The electronics in these cars can go absolutely haywire, but have a lot of nice features. The models before 2006 have issues with the Kessy module (smart key system), but the modules have updated versions available.
One pet peeve that I have is that the scroll wheel on the steering wheel doesn't let you scroll through your radio presets, only the nearest station. If you want to use your presets, you'll have to reach over to the softkeys on the side of the screen.
Once you update the failure prone parts in the early models, they're actually quite reliable vehicles
I'm passionate about the English Jaguar XJ-S HE pre-facelift (1981-1992). Had one of 1982. Beautiful but high maintenance! So unreliable but so beautiful you forgive her faults.
I like those as well! Beautiful cars.
Great video Mr Kyzak!!!
Thanks!
This is an interesting video. Mega kudos to you for doing most of the maintenance yourself to keep costs down! A lot of people don't realize it but, for the most part, a car is a car. Plus, that very first service would've come to a grand total of $9 (rather than $530) if you'd bought a gallon Prestone! Just a side-note: I owned a '07 DB9 Volante for three years and had nearly all of the regular maintenance done at a local service station (I only used the dealer for hard-to-diagnose electrical glitches and failed sensors). Like you, I bought all the parts from the internet and, overall, ownership costs were lower than I expected. Unfortunately, new problems always kept developing and I simply grew frustrated that the car spent more time in the shop than in my possession (that's actually true).
Those are cool cars. Thanks for watching.
The car looks boss. Great purchase
Thanks!
You can find a red label arnage for ~ 20k here in the UK. We bought ours really damaged (engine caught fire) but it's finally ready. It's so cool knowing that you have such a luxurious car + it can do 450bhp which is almost as much as our 2016 m4
That sounds like it was a big project!