Your work inspires me to get at it. I let trackwork, wiring intimidate me for a long time. After meeting you on your previous layout and the amazing progress on this one, its time to saddle up !
Thanks David 😀. I knew almost nothing when I started my original 4x8 back in 2017. Wow, almost 7 years ago now. I had recently retired when I started so I had plenty of time to work on the layout. I started with my 25 yr old DC locos and brass track. If it wasn’t something I liked then I could just stop. Not a big investment when I started. I found that I really enjoyed designing and building the layout. I learned about everything on TH-cam. Here are some questions to consider. Do you have time to devote? Consider your other priorities. Do you have funds? Not a cheap hobby. Do handle frustration well? I remember how mad and discouraged I would get converting from DC to DCC. Remember I knew nothing and learned from my mistakes. Maybe start small and see how it goes. One last thing, it’s cheaper to build track feeders than to buy them. So if you need a lot, learn to solder.
What scale is this, please? The lead in says HO and if true, how do you keep them on the track with such small curve radii? Very interesting configuration. Thanks for sharing! I look forward to updates
Thanks Drew 😀. I really like this layout for rail fanning. My prior layout had a lot more operation options with all the buildings. I can do a few operation type runs which I’ll show in future videos.
Hope you're feeling ok? Sound a little weak. I've had quite the fight over the last year. Back to it now. Love seeing the trains run. Love seeing the telephone poles! My father was in charge of ALL the communications (department) for the Southern Pacific. He retired as the Assistant General Superintendent of Communications- SYSTEM for the SP. He and the group that worked for him engineered and created a company called SPCC . SP later sold SPCC and it became SPRINT. Think about you often. Hope you're fight is now over.
Wow! I’m so pleased to hear from you. Based on the severity of your treatment I thought maybe you hadn’t survived. Hope it’s truly going well for you. 😀👍. I’m going very well. 3 PSA tests since finishing radiation last November. All under .10.
Thanks. I wanted something different than my previous flat layout. I also wanted to have reverse loops. It didn’t work out exactly the way I planned it on AnyRail6 but good enough.
@@FredE528 Some 40 years ago I had a collection of Märklin H0 trains and I tried to create a nice track plan on a surface of 4 x 7 feet and I soon discovered I wouldn't be able to create something acceptable so I decided to sell my collection and start over with N-gauge trains. Now that I'm getting older I start to get problems with this small material. Repairs are much more diffiicult to make.
When I took up the hobby in 2017 I had old DC HO equipment so that’s what I stuck with. I did briefly consider a change to N scale because it allows for more railroad on 4x8. But decided it was too small for my old guy eyes plus finger dexterity not so great.
Thanks John 😀. Not just flatness and buildings on this layout. I wanted to try something totally different on this layout. Soon I’ll try the static grass and super trees I bought.
I have all HO also I do have N scale engine and cars and track KATO but was used for Christmas I may do a layout someday with those! They are packed away right now. Just waiting to get started on my HO 4x8 Layout all the room I have right now in the basement.
Nice. If you might ever expand, think about planning for it on your layout at start. May not fit your situation but thought I’d mention idea. When I did my original 4x8 I setup the outside loop with a turnout at end of straight away. The straight part of the turn had a 6” straight track and the diverging part of the turnout went into the outside loop. I was thinking about possible expansion of another 4x8. I did eventually do this. Later I had to do significant work to make the 4x16 double mainline.
Thanks Mike 😀 I wanted to get away from the ‘Flat Freddy’ look but have enough buildings for a few operation type runs. I’m hoping to start ballast, static grass, and super trees soon.
Thanks Ed 😀. Oh it’s not easy. I added several cars to the freight train today. Multiple decouplings as loco climbed the incline. 🤬. Also I was trying to program Routes into my MRC Advance controller but I couldn’t get these to work as I expected. 🤬. I gave up and raked and bagged leaves in my yard.
Thanks Ed 😀. Oh it’s not easy. I added several cars to the freight train today. Multiple decouplings as loco climbed the incline. 🤬. Also I was trying to program Routes into my MRC Advance controller but I couldn’t get these to work as I expected. 🤬. I gave up and raked and bagged leaves in my yard.
Thanks Mark 😀. I’m amazed at the #views this video has gotten. And so fast! It must be placed in a well travel spot on TH-cam. I normally get a few hundred views.
Thanks Dave 😀. Not bad. However, I add more cars to the freight train today. As it claimed the incline I had multiple decouplings. My old cars need new couplers. 🤬
Thank you 😀. Here’s the last video on this layout before we left Texas for the summer. th-cam.com/video/LBEhChBRnDs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=syuyrOrwvCcR--h5 You might be interested to see my summer layout in NH. th-cam.com/video/X9MAZexoWRI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WeJED_FCLCPCSTJ-
Thanks for your comment. 😀. You might like to watch this video which shows the scenery almost complete. th-cam.com/video/LBEhChBRnDs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LC2RknyENRES4W1b
Thanks Daryl 😀. I’ll start the scenery soon. I’m having a bit of trouble with some cars what decoupler bars that hang low and catch a turnout motor wire. Small fix.
@@FredE528 Actually, I'm planting seeds today for what are called "SuperTrees" available for model railroading. An experiment for sure ... but fun. Otherwise known as Teloxys Seafoam seeds. Plan to use with Noch leaves to make deciduous trees.
Thanks Mark, nice of you to remember my birthday. Are the presents in the mail? Yep, this layout runs pretty well. I have a few hickups as I try new cars. This morning I got out my NS loco and grain cars(that is what I call them). Couple of the car decoupled bars caught on switch turnout motor wire. I fixed this permanently - cut off all the decoupler bars. Problem solved!
I did the original design with AnyRail6. But several changes were done during construction. I didn’t update these changes back into AnyRail6. However it does have a pretty good picture of the track layout although not an accurately measured. I can send you a PDF of this if you like.
Amazing work on this layout. You should look into 3D printing that could be handy for some buildings and road bridges. You can also print your own models. I know that Southern Pacific RR had some special locomotives that very interesting. I like the top layer. Make me think about a pass for railroads by viewing it on certain angles like at 5:56.
Thanks for your comment. 😀. There are several nice viewing angles on this layout. I like the view angle where trains pass each other. I put another train on the layout today. I think it will be very cool to have 3 trains passing in a shot. I can visualize how it will improve as I get scenic work done. This is going to take quite a bit of time however. I’m also trying to think of a way to effectively block the garage walls with tools from showing in the video. I don’t think 3-D printing is in my future. Looks very complicated. I have many buildings left from prior layout the I don’t have room for on this layout.
Thanks 😀. These are Rix Products - Early Highway Overpass. The long bridge is a 150’ 3 section kit. The shorter bridge is 2 kits of 50’ each. I got them from different vendors off eBay.
Thanks Anthony 😀. Not too anxious yet to head North. It’s always cool in the NH basement early in the summer. No heat ducts in the basement currently. I’m going to contact a heating/cooling company about installing some. The temperature here in my garage has been great. Good time of the year to be in south-ish Texas. Loco unexpectedly derailed on a turnout but I didn’t catch it on video. Bad Loco 🤬
Those long straight stretches are nice! Youre doing great with everything, but for the SP Black Widow engine, you really need a caboose so it will look right for that era.
@@FredE528 i noticed that the track plan has 2 main lines on the lower level, and the 3rd track is a "dogbone" style with 2 reverse loops, that interchanges with the 2 lower level mains, thats really cool! As for a SP caboose, a cupola type would be better with the "Black Widow" engine, and a bay window caboose would look good with the GP-40. (I am an "old-school" modeller, and all my freights have cabeese.) The only models i have that would be called "modern" are a few Amtrak P-40/42s, a CN GEVO, & an SD 70 ACE, the NS Wabash heritage unit.
Hey, I got a notification. You’re working like you have a deadline. When do you head north? The layout looks great and the train ran really well. Got through another year, Happy Birthday and many more.
Glad you got the notification Derek 😀 Probably leave for NH in first week of May. I’ll probably do a bit of scenic work this week. But then I have to stop and do some repairs and re-stain my deck. The cedar that the builder used is not holding up. I’ve tried to keep it stained and sealed but to no avail. I’ve have to replace boards the last couple of years. Thanks for B-Day wishes. I feel fortunate to be this age. Both my parents died before this age. This hobby enhances my old age…
Hi Fred, very nice layout! Again, I feel so inadequate with mine. 😪 LOL Truthfully, I haven't spent much time enhancing it. Was going to do it over the winter but damn, Spring is around the corner! Take care. Bob
Thanks Bob 😀. I’ve been working on the layout quite a bit over the winter. I need to get started replacing some rotten boards on my deck. Yard clean up last week. Always something to fix on a house. 😬
I started with 4x8 in 2017 with DC equipment. I didn’t know much about the hobby when I started. Got hooked. Luckily I was able to expand this layout in my San Antonio garage two times. Weather during many months is OK for garage work. I leave Texas during the summer. Work on my NH layout in condo basement. Some people might say I obsessed.or possessed. This is second version of the 6x16. Thanks for comment. 😀
That’s a good choice. However, you can get more track on 4x8 with N scale. My decision was HO because I have equipment and track saved from the past. Plus, I thought the small N scale buildings would be too difficult for me to build.
Judging from the locomotives, rolling stock and automobiles on the road your modeling from the very late 1940s to mid 1950s, so your trains should have cabooses.😊
Beautiful layout!
Thank you so much! I see you are fairly new on TH-cam. Do you have a layout?
Your work inspires me to get at it. I let trackwork, wiring intimidate me for a long time. After meeting you on your previous layout and the amazing progress on this one, its time to saddle up !
Thanks David 😀. I knew almost nothing when I started my original 4x8 back in 2017. Wow, almost 7 years ago now. I had recently retired when I started so I had plenty of time to work on the layout. I started with my 25 yr old DC locos and brass track. If it wasn’t something I liked then I could just stop. Not a big investment when I started. I found that I really enjoyed designing and building the layout. I learned about everything on TH-cam.
Here are some questions to consider. Do you have time to devote? Consider your other priorities. Do you have funds? Not a cheap hobby. Do handle frustration well? I remember how mad and discouraged I would get converting from DC to DCC. Remember I knew nothing and learned from my mistakes. Maybe start small and see how it goes. One last thing, it’s cheaper to build track feeders than to buy them. So if you need a lot, learn to solder.
What scale is this, please? The lead in says HO and if true, how do you keep them on the track with such small curve radii? Very interesting configuration. Thanks for sharing! I look forward to updates
Yes, it’s really HO scale. I only use GP type locos with 4 wheel trucks and mostly 40’ cars. I tried not to have a curve less than 18”.
@@FredE528 silly me did bad math. Of course 6' gives plenty of room for HO! Nice work. Fun to watch.
No problem. 👍
Amazing work Fred. Love watching the climb to the top then goes back down. Great update. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Drew 😀. I really like this layout for rail fanning. My prior layout had a lot more operation options with all the buildings. I can do a few operation type runs which I’ll show in future videos.
Hope you're feeling ok? Sound a little weak. I've had quite the fight over the last year. Back to it now. Love seeing the trains run. Love seeing the telephone poles! My father was in charge of ALL the communications (department) for the Southern Pacific. He retired as the Assistant General Superintendent of Communications- SYSTEM for the SP. He and the group that worked for him engineered and created a company called SPCC . SP later sold SPCC and it became SPRINT.
Think about you often. Hope you're fight is now over.
Wow! I’m so pleased to hear from you. Based on the severity of your treatment I thought maybe you hadn’t survived. Hope it’s truly going well for you. 😀👍. I’m going very well. 3 PSA tests since finishing radiation last November. All under .10.
Interesting track design.
Thanks. I wanted something different than my previous flat layout. I also wanted to have reverse loops. It didn’t work out exactly the way I planned it on AnyRail6 but good enough.
@@FredE528 Some 40 years ago I had a collection of Märklin H0 trains and I tried to create a nice track plan on a surface of 4 x 7 feet and I soon discovered I wouldn't be able to create something acceptable so I decided to sell my collection and start over with N-gauge trains. Now that I'm getting older I start to get problems with this small material. Repairs are much more diffiicult to make.
When I took up the hobby in 2017 I had old DC HO equipment so that’s what I stuck with. I did briefly consider a change to N scale because it allows for more railroad on 4x8. But decided it was too small for my old guy eyes plus finger dexterity not so great.
@@FredE528 I think you might have made the right decision.
Very nice layout. Great video and thanks for sharing. Dave
Thanks Dave 😀
really sweet trains, especially the coal drag. you pack a lot into the space- mountains, bridges and water feature, town. well done :)
Thanks John 😀. Not just flatness and buildings on this layout. I wanted to try something totally different on this layout. Soon I’ll try the static grass and super trees I bought.
Wow running great there Fred! Keep up the great work. Hope all is well. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks AC 😀. All good here. I’ll start some scenery this week.
Great use of space, you have a lot of railroad there.
Thanks Blaine. 😀. It’s as big as possible and still have room for my car and other garage stuff.
I have all HO also I do have N scale engine and cars and track KATO but was used for Christmas I may do a layout someday with those! They are packed away right now. Just waiting to get started on my HO 4x8 Layout all the room I have right now in the basement.
Nice. If you might ever expand, think about planning for it on your layout at start. May not fit your situation but thought I’d mention idea.
When I did my original 4x8 I setup the outside loop with a turnout at end of straight away. The straight part of the turn had a 6” straight track and the diverging part of the turnout went into the outside loop. I was thinking about possible expansion of another 4x8. I did eventually do this. Later I had to do significant work to make the 4x16 double mainline.
This is an unlisted video I did for a viewer which you might find useful. th-cam.com/video/EZAn6r8F7tY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_KWOZ21zF2bDm_T0
Great new multilayered layout………with plenty of room for a coach bus depot. Just as soon as the roads go in😁
Vader! Good to hear from you. Sorry but my bus is still in NH plus very limited room for bus station on this layout. 😕
Looks fantastic Fred great work and detail has gone into this one thanks for sharing well done all the way. Have a great rest of your day 😎🚂
Thanks Mike 😀 I wanted to get away from the ‘Flat Freddy’ look but have enough buildings for a few operation type runs. I’m hoping to start ballast, static grass, and super trees soon.
@@FredE528 awesome can’t wait 😎🫵
wow, great progress, you always make it look easy
Thanks Ed 😀. Oh it’s not easy. I added several cars to the freight train today. Multiple decouplings as loco climbed the incline. 🤬. Also I was trying to program Routes into my MRC Advance controller but I couldn’t get these to work as I expected. 🤬. I gave up and raked and bagged leaves in my yard.
Thanks Ed 😀. Oh it’s not easy. I added several cars to the freight train today. Multiple decouplings as loco climbed the incline. 🤬. Also I was trying to program Routes into my MRC Advance controller but I couldn’t get these to work as I expected. 🤬. I gave up and raked and bagged leaves in my yard.
Always a pleasure seeing your work Fred ✌️
Thanks, glad you like it 😀
363 likes! Wonderful layout!
Thanks Mark 😀. I’m amazed at the #views this video has gotten. And so fast! It must be placed in a well travel spot on TH-cam. I normally get a few hundred views.
@@FredE528 That is GREAT! Congrats!
Coming together nice Fred. Looks like things are running pretty well
Thanks Dave 😀. Not bad. However, I add more cars to the freight train today. As it claimed the incline I had multiple decouplings. My old cars need new couplers. 🤬
Looking great
Thank you 😀
A great work in progress. Keep it up.
Thanks 😀. Lot of work left …
Nice layout plane Fred, well executed and very interesting to operate.
Thank you 😀. Here’s the last video on this layout before we left Texas for the summer. th-cam.com/video/LBEhChBRnDs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=syuyrOrwvCcR--h5
You might be interested to see my summer layout in NH. th-cam.com/video/X9MAZexoWRI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WeJED_FCLCPCSTJ-
Nice layout and love the landscape and scenery, enjoyed watching the trains make their journeys 😃😃
Thanks for your comment. 😀. You might like to watch this video which shows the scenery almost complete. th-cam.com/video/LBEhChBRnDs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LC2RknyENRES4W1b
Hello,
Interesting nice update!👍
Nice greetings from Germany!🖖
Thanks 😀. I spent 3 years in Germany. Beautiful country!
@@FredE528 Ok👍
looking good fred. 👍
Thanks Steve 😀. Starting scenery soon…
Nice Work, running smooth...Starting to populate the scenes,,, All Very Good...
Thanks Daryl 😀. I’ll start the scenery soon. I’m having a bit of trouble with some cars what decoupler bars that hang low and catch a turnout motor wire. Small fix.
Layout is really coming together ... good work!!
Thank you Donald 😀. I’m planning to start some scenery this coming week.
@@FredE528 Actually, I'm planting seeds today for what are called "SuperTrees" available for model railroading. An experiment for sure ... but fun. Otherwise known as Teloxys Seafoam seeds. Plan to use with Noch leaves to make deciduous trees.
That’s interesting. 👍 Post video if it works out. Super Trees are expensive.
Nice run session Fred. thing are looking good!
Thanks Randy 😀 I’ll start ballasting and static grass this coming week.
Looks great.
Madular sections for easy access to derailment 👍
Thank you 😀
Happy Birthday Fred! Love the progress. Seems to be running a lot better than your last layout. 😊
Thanks Mark, nice of you to remember my birthday. Are the presents in the mail?
Yep, this layout runs pretty well. I have a few hickups as I try new cars. This morning I got out my NS loco and grain cars(that is what I call them). Couple of the car decoupled bars caught on switch turnout motor wire. I fixed this permanently - cut off all the decoupler bars. Problem solved!
Very nice Fred, thanks for sharing.! 👍
Thanks for watching and comment. 😀
Do you have the track plan for this?! I love it!
I did the original design with AnyRail6. But several changes were done during construction. I didn’t update these changes back into AnyRail6. However it does have a pretty good picture of the track layout although not an accurately measured. I can send you a PDF of this if you like.
@FredE528 yeah that'd be awesome. I might try recreating I'm anyrail6 for n scale.
What is email address ?
Looking great, nice job on the scenery 👍🏻
Thanks Rick 😀. I’ll try scenic grass applicator this coming week.
Fred, you've got the layout looking good. Cool run session. I see alot of cool railfan spots.
Thanks JD 😀. As I watched the video I too could additional spots for rail fanning. Funny how I only see these in the video not while filming.
Very Nice..I will be starting my 4x8 soon!
Thanks 😀. Are you doing HO or N scale?
Wow! You been busy! Looks great!!!
Yes, I’ve been working on it quite a bit. Thanks 😀
Looks good!! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks Bert 😀. Starting scenery soon with static grass. My first time doing this.
Amazing work on this layout. You should look into 3D printing that could be handy for some buildings and road bridges. You can also print your own models. I know that Southern Pacific RR had some special locomotives that very interesting. I like the top layer. Make me think about a pass for railroads by viewing it on certain angles like at 5:56.
Thanks for your comment. 😀. There are several nice viewing angles on this layout. I like the view angle where trains pass each other. I put another train on the layout today. I think it will be very cool to have 3 trains passing in a shot.
I can visualize how it will improve as I get scenic work done. This is going to take quite a bit of time however. I’m also trying to think of a way to effectively block the garage walls with tools from showing in the video.
I don’t think 3-D printing is in my future. Looks very complicated. I have many buildings left from prior layout the I don’t have room for on this layout.
Thats Awesome!!!
Thanks 😀. I’ve come a long way from my 4x8 layout started six years ago. Still a lot of things to try in the landscape scenery area.
Looks great Fred. Where did you order the bridges? We are looking for something exactly like that.
Thanks 😀. These are Rix Products - Early Highway Overpass. The long bridge is a 150’ 3 section kit. The shorter bridge is 2 kits of 50’ each. I got them from different vendors off eBay.
Hermosas maquinas
Thanks 😀
Good looking layout your building Fred…are you anxious to get back to big one up north?…bad loco behaved for the camera 😊
Thanks Anthony 😀. Not too anxious yet to head North. It’s always cool in the NH basement early in the summer. No heat ducts in the basement currently. I’m going to contact a heating/cooling company about installing some. The temperature here in my garage has been great. Good time of the year to be in south-ish Texas. Loco unexpectedly derailed on a turnout but I didn’t catch it on video. Bad Loco 🤬
Those long straight stretches are nice! Youre doing great with everything, but for the SP Black Widow engine, you really need a caboose so it will look right for that era.
Thanks Paul 😀. You’re right about the caboose. Just started testing the track with a few cars and didn’t pick a caboose.
@@FredE528 i noticed that the track plan has 2 main lines on the lower level, and the 3rd track is a "dogbone" style with 2 reverse loops, that interchanges with the 2 lower level mains, thats really cool! As for a SP caboose, a cupola type would be better with the "Black Widow" engine, and a bay window caboose would look good with the GP-40. (I am an "old-school" modeller, and all my freights have cabeese.) The only models i have that would be called "modern" are a few Amtrak P-40/42s, a CN GEVO, & an SD 70 ACE, the NS Wabash heritage unit.
I added cupola style caboose to the trains this morning. I’ll have to see if I have a window style caboose. Thanks for the tip.
Hey, I got a notification. You’re working like you have a deadline. When do you head north? The layout looks great and the train ran really well. Got through another year, Happy Birthday and many more.
Glad you got the notification Derek 😀 Probably leave for NH in first week of May. I’ll probably do a bit of scenic work this week. But then I have to stop and do some repairs and re-stain my deck. The cedar that the builder used is not holding up. I’ve tried to keep it stained and sealed but to no avail. I’ve have to replace boards the last couple of years. Thanks for B-Day wishes. I feel fortunate to be this age. Both my parents died before this age. This hobby enhances my old age…
@@FredE528 Yeah, trains are easier to throw than golf clubs, lol.
thats a good layout i wish i had a ho scale train
Thanks 😀. If your space is limited, consider N scale. Equipment is a little cheaper as well.
Hi Fred, very nice layout! Again, I feel so inadequate with mine. 😪 LOL Truthfully, I haven't spent much time enhancing it. Was going to do it over the winter but damn, Spring is around the corner! Take care. Bob
Thanks Bob 😀. I’ve been working on the layout quite a bit over the winter. I need to get started replacing some rotten boards on my deck. Yard clean up last week. Always something to fix on a house. 😬
Sweet! Would love a 6x16, but alas I have only a 4x8
I started with 4x8 in 2017 with DC equipment. I didn’t know much about the hobby when I started. Got hooked. Luckily I was able to expand this layout in my San Antonio garage two times. Weather during many months is OK for garage work. I leave Texas during the summer. Work on my NH layout in condo basement. Some people might say I obsessed.or possessed. This is second version of the 6x16. Thanks for comment. 😀
Layout Look Good.
Thank you Ellery 😀
Nice run
Thanks for watching and comment. 😀
Wow and wow excellent layout👍👍👍You don’t sound yourself Fred, take care of yourself, I really enjoy your videos. I miss the 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Thanks Ron 😀. I’m good, maybe a bit tired. Don’t worry, when I start doing more switching I expect the 🤬📢🤬 will show up.
Linda maqueta
Thank you 😀
Cool Run
Thanks 😀. Will start scenic work soon…
7:08 that curve need some work, otherwise great work.
I see that. This section has an autoreverser so I have a couple of short sections. I’ll try to align this better when I ballast. Thanks for comment. 😀
Is this HO scale or N
It’s HO Ed.
....die Gleise sind ja teilweise grottenschlecht verlegt....warum?
I realize some spots are a little kinked but they work ok.
HO
That’s a good choice. However, you can get more track on 4x8 with N scale. My decision was HO because I have equipment and track saved from the past. Plus, I thought the small N scale buildings would be too difficult for me to build.
Judging from the locomotives, rolling stock and automobiles on the road your modeling from the very late 1940s to mid 1950s, so your trains should have cabooses.😊
You are right, I didn’t think about adding my caboose. 😀. Thanks for comment.
Paint track before ballisting.
Not a bad idea but I just not that detailed. Just planning to ballast the rail. Thanks for comment.