It was Lily's choice, and I'm not anti porn but the fact she didn't know that you can get HIV from oral was really concerning. It's important for sex workers of any kind to know how diseases can be transmitted and the fact she didn't seem to know or care genuinely does make me worry about these being self harming behaviors. in the end though she's a grown adult and while I can worry it's not my place as an internet stranger to tell her to stop. I hope she's okay.
I agree, I kind of think she needs a better team. Someone on her team should be educating her about the risks she clearly doesn't understand she's taking. if she doesn't know about HIV, does she know about any of the other STIs she could get? Is she aware of the risk of infection if she isn't properly lubricated or doesn't wash the ejaculate from her eyes? It feels like she's very young and not well educated on sex as an act and it just feels like she needs an older, much more experienced sex worker on her team to educate her.
Doing too much of anything, whether it's eating, drinking, gambling, or sex in this case, is called addiction and it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
The Lily Phillips situation had problems that all stemmed from logistics. Her & her team should have spend *at least* a MONTH not only vetting the participants, but making sure they knew *what* was expected of them and what they were *allowed* to do. Honestly, even if it meant they had fewer applicants, they should have signed a contract!
Contracts, security, extensive screening, a face to face interview between her and every single successful applicant, medical professionals on standby before, during, and after, extensive legal counsel on potential issues, and a mandatory mental health check-in before AND afterwards. So many things needed to happen that just straight up didn't because she is a complete newbie to this kind of thing, and it doesn't really seem like anyone from her "team" really sat down with her and both stressed the importance of safety here and was in her corner during, either. Someone should have been present to pull people off of her after their allotted time was up, if necessary. The fact that no one did, that no one was willing to do something like that, shows that nobody there truly cared about her safety and well-being. That whole situation was a textbook lesson in people not knowing what the hell they're doing.
I think the bigger problem is that a combination of greed and the need for stardom resulted in her making a high risk decision that made her a potential super-spreader of multiple incurable diseases. This type of recklessness blows my mind.
The lily story is a reminder that reality and fantasy are not the same. Reality tends to break out fantasy; sometimes fantasy seems so good, till the reality happens and its not like what you have fantized.
I have a whole suite of fantasies that, if I were given the opportunity to live them out in reality, I'd have to decline. Some things are legitimately better kept as fantasies, even if everything seems like it's being done right.
Best comment. It is amazing what the porn industry (especially non-Western) is allowed to get away with. Western porn themes are pretty damn tame. Foreign films can get really horrendous by our standards and the women that participate in those _must_ experience psychological damage. Even if it is a fantasy, there’s a reason that we moderate the themes so heavily in the West.
yeah, like the time i spent a year working in thailand as a glorified gigalo for the ladyboy clubs, the clubs paid me to stick it in there performers to help them "destress" i made good money, but sex became boring after a week, to this day i still see sex as a chore not a pleasure
I'm in the camp of why did she rush to do this at the cost of safety. It's not like there weren't enough men or a time limit? If she makes the money she claims she can afford a third party to vet them. Have an intimacy counselor from films onsite to manage people, etc. She put clout over her own safety
This! There was no need to rush, she could have taken the time that was needed and plan it all out. I also think the absence of an intimacy councilor is so felt in this entire situation. Like all of this could have been avioded if things were planned properly. And ffs why in 2024 almost 2025 do we have such crappy sex ed? This is frustrating.
Youse are acting like this is the first time ever someone has put money and fame over safety. She’s an adult woman not a child let her live her life god damn
I don't think she genuinely thought through the physical and psychological consequences at all. It's kinda sad that it was the documentary guy who brought up these really important considerations instead of all the other people around her.
Also a clever way to cover your ass for associating with scum in the past because we all know PD doesn't want to be like one of the many people he will talk about getting cancelled over previous affiliations or pasts tweets.
I always expected it to have some backing somewhere, and for some reason I thought that company was never mentioned for a reason. This now makes sense.
I just checked because I knew he was under Complex. Turns Out BuzzFeed owned Complex then BuzzFeed sold Complex this year, but they probably separate Hot Ones/First We Feast into it's own organizations
Perfect example of the AI irony meme. The dream: machines do all the menial labor and people can focus on art and creativity. The reality: the machines make all the art and creativity, and the people do all the menial labor.
About the Lily Philips situation, I think it speaks more broadly to our approach not just to pornography, but to spectacle and social interactions; which are both greatly influenced by our economic system. Competition, standing out, becoming “viral”… We’ve commodified our lives and this is pushing people to do things they wouldn’t normally do to the detriment of their physical and mental health in exchange for exposure and a sense of belonging.
The way she's describing it, how intense it was, honestly reminded me of how I would describe what it's like working a busy customer service job. Needing to be friendly enough to make sure they're having a good time but quick enough to get them in and out. Which, when sex becomes a transactional experience like a customer service job, is it fun anymore?
I see it similarly in the sense of after a long, demanding shift, I can be sort of tearful and overwhelmed. But it doesn’t mean I don’t like my job, that was just a hard day and a hard part of it. The last line just makes me think “well probably not for me, but I wouldn’t ever have Lily’s job.” I think it’s good to view sex work as work. Does everyone like their job? Does that mean they should quit?
Whomever it was that said “do what you love for a living and you’ll never work a day in your life” was an idiot. Even setting your favorite song as your alarm makes you hate that song.
I could swear Phil had done a Hot Ones episode and yes he did. It was 6 years ago. God damn time flies. You know what that means Phil, time do round 2 now!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught it. I rewound twice just to make sure. Lol What flavor do you think he was hoping for? I’m gonna guess mint chocolate chip.
I'm glad to see Sean Evans will now have a real stake in the ownership of the show he's had such a large role in making so popular. His stomach lining may have long disintegrated, but now he's a big boss.
A big part of the reason it took Buzzfeed this long to sell First We Feast (they've been trying for like a year and a half) is ironically *because* of Sean Evans. Sean Evans IS the brand - what if someone paid $70 million (the initial asking price) and then Sean just decided to up and leave 6 months later? Then you just paid $70 million for bupkis. Sean having more of an ownsership/executive role was essential for any kind of deal to go through.
@@PalmelaHandersonhe really was carrying the first we feast channel for the almost a decade. He was the channel before they started expanding with burgers and Ester Choi spicy channel.
Aside from her being vile and outrageously uneducated about STI’s - Her team didn’t support her at all, no control on time, no support in regards to taking jackets /shoes. No cleaning the room, no background checks, no valid checks of STI’s, inviting rando’s at the last minute to fill up those who dropped out. Not taking care of her sustinance- all while taking money from her. I am baffled.
just logistically, idk how Lily Phillips would even get past 1K sex partners in a day… like it took 8 hrs for just 100 + her showers/breaks, and included her breaking down bc she felt dissatisfied at the end with how it went, on top of their scheduling issues… like this is 10x that
The fact that Lily's team said that " she took it like a champ ", first, um no it sounds like she didn't have a fun time and even some of the participants had a bad time afterwards. Second, what a gross way to put it
She did it with 100 people. It's not meant to be like 100 one on one separate encounters. "Didn't have a fun time"... FFS. There's not enough lube in the world to make the situation physically pleasurable, that wasn't even the point of her doing it.
Yall are wild. She basically just ran a sex marathon. Sex aside, it is an amazing physical feat. I can't tell you if she had fun or not. It sounds like she was just concerned that all of her guests were not having a good time (like any good host would). As for the guys; it's very possible that homeboy freaked out after he learned how many guys fucked her before he got a shot. It takes a certain kind of man to be fully ok with sloppy 80ths (usually pros). Since these men do not seem to be pros, they probably are not mentally cut out for it.
What Lily Philips did was dangerous. End of story. She put herself at risk and was lucky that nothing else went wrong, and I seriously hope she reconsiders attempting it again.
Agreed, I’m usually very much in the camp of “if it ain’t hurting anyone, people should be able to live how they please”, but this was obscenely dangerous for so many reasons
The 2nd coming of Annabel Chong, who was estimated to have done a 251+ man Gang Bang... glad to see someone keeping this alive. It was no better for her than it is for Lily either. People will do what people do.
I’ve watched this channel for 17 years. You’ve molded my world view. Dude, I was like 11. So thank you for sticking your fingers into the clay in my noggin.
They sold it to help pay off their debt. They’re moving away from original content i.e things like buzzfeed videos which have higher production costs to focus on AI which can churn out content for cheap. All of this is because the company is in debt
As someone that worked in digital media for over 6 years, the purchase of Hot Ones is probably the best case scenario for the IP. So many online media brands were scraped by private equity firms until they were a shell of their former selves so being owned by people who are passionate about the brand is the best thing for them
I find it incredibly amusing Buzzfeed sold their own IP to allow it to go independent and free themselves up to be an even hollower shell of a company. It's like the opposite of merger Monday or something
About the Lily's story: I don't think she is a victim. It was her idea. She organised it. She is an adult woman that can make her own decisions. She announced that she wants to do it again, but TEN times bigger. Is it a stupid idea? Yes. Do I think she has some psychological issues to do that? Probably. But I'm not in the position to say her anything. It's not my business what she is doing to herself unless it's affecting me personally.
You are allowed to have an opinion, it's not like you are screaming at her int he face with your words. You already are saying something and then following up with that by saying you can't say sht? What type of cuk mentality must you have? Own the position. Own what you say. You clearly think it's ok to judge because you already are. That's not a big deal, you're ok to do that...
@jacobwatto9702 if you shoot yourself in the foot your not a victim. You're an idiot. This is basically that but with a train of 100 dudes. Victims don't typically profit 30k and want to do it again 10x bigger
She's describing feeling assaulted even though it was 100% her choice, without realizing that's what she's saying. The disassociation is an indication of this
The craziest part is that doc is fully monetized when the topics cover porn, sexual trauma, HIV and sex? Meanwhile anything even partly “controversial” TH-cam demonetizes for any other creator.
I made the mistake of opening this with my Bluetooth speaker connected. Judging by the look on my mother's face, your first question may have signed my death warrant. 😅
never did i think I'd hear phil speak (or attempt) to speak korean on the show, let alone to say BYE FELICIA to the korean president. 10/10 effort, 10/10 amusing
@@HarryWessex she wasnt looking for sympathy though, people seem to keen to put her in a bracket either a victim or the other extreme but at the end of the day it was her choice and she is allowed to whatever she wants with her her body and her time.
It is self harm on a massive, public scale. She didn’t even understand how HIV is spread, and I think that’s to do with the fact that Gen Z didn’t have to grow up during, or at the latter end of the AIDS epidemic. I was a child in the 90’s and AIDS was still very much center stage; education was constantly happening. We’d come to know how it’s spread, how to avoid it and that you can’t catch it by hugging or being around someone. But bc younger Millenials and Gen Z didn’t grow up with HIV/AIDS being talked about non-stop and being told how to avoid it, I feel this younger generation behind us, hasn’t lived with seeing people die from it, so they falsely feel it’s no longer dangerous or a high risk. I’m a Millennial and I’m stunned by her seeming lack of STD awareness and concern for her own future prospects and health. On top of the damage to her mental health, this will be what she’s known for, forever. That’s just facts. I’m sorry for her and I hope she stops.
I felt bad for Lily Phillips until you said she was going to do it again and go for 1,000. That sympathy melted away. Dumb as hell. Then I realized no mentally together person would do that, and the sympathy came back. Girl needs some therapy.
1,000 is ridiculous and there’s no way its pleasurable, even for someone who may consider themselves a nymphomaniac. If 100 men only allowed 5 minutes, 1000 men means one pump and then they gotta dip. And you need an assembly line 😂
women in that "industry" have incredibly high rates of mental illness, pasts with sexual abuse, and much shorter lifespans than average. i have nothing but sympathy for these women
Nah, you use men as sex objects, you call people prude or close minded for not being okay with this, you profit off lonely men who can't find connection elsewhere, then you use the public for sympathy. Enough is enough.
With Lily’s story, first the documentary was great, very well done. However, I’m concerned she’s not aware of the risk of HPV, which can in some cases lead to throat or ovarian cancer. Even when using protection you can contract HPV quite easily. Your body can fight it off, but equally it can turn to cancer.
Adding to the concern: there's no test for male HPV, most cases are without symptoms (especially in men), and HPV can lie dormant in your body for years. That said, point of clarification: 80% of human adults have some form of HPV in their lives and it's definitely *not* equally likely to lead to cancer - most often your body fights it off just fine. She's obviously at a much higher risk than the average human adult and that should be taken seriously but I do think it's important to be clear on the facts.
In regards to the last story and telling yourself things are going to be fine, I honestly think most of us live by those words because if we didn’t then life would be a nightmare. I also think it’s the little happy moments like sitting down and watching an episode of an anime, playing a video game, or hanging with friends when I have some free time that make me feel that things are alright especially when I consider that in some parts of the world there are people who can’t even do that.
Sure, it was Lily's choice but her team messed up in a major way. They didn't vet any of the men and they didn't intervene when the men broke the rules of the event. Seriously, how is that not considered r*pe? If you hook up with someone and you tell them "I don't want to do x" and then they do that anyway, that is a malicious breach of trust.
When are we going to stop coddling ignorant people? If an adult thinks putting their hand on the hot stove is what they want and they wind up getting burned a little, why does this culture still perpetuate sexist ideals that we need to step in and do something if they're a woman? I know people living almost exclusively on the internet instead of going out and seeing what really happens in the real world is very prevalent right now, but there is definitely something more to it than just that.
Are you seriously asking this question? "I said each guy is limited to 5 minutes, but he took 6, and he didn't pull out when the clock struck 5. I was raped." Do you have any idea how batshit crazy that sounds? It'd be a different story if she told them to stop specifically when the 5 minute mark was reached and they said "no", and kept going. But that doesn't sound like that's what happened.
Phil, please make your team do some research. As a 51 year old trans woman, I'm tired of being under fire every day... it's exhausting. So, are they going to ban puberty blockers for cis kids with precocious puberty?
Getting really tired of politicians and businessmen pretending to be doctors while ignoring the real medical professionals advice on how any of what they're banning actually does.
This also Its that same feeling autistic people get when nt people speak for them. Its like dude the people living the experience or having studied it are trying to tell you your wrong why are you ignoring it. Or how men tell other men what woman like. The mental gymnastics.
As a trans girls im not gonna pretend that we really know if puberty blockers are hurmful in the long run, they relatively new, and basically don't have any research. So the suspension of them is reasonable , plus if you reeeealy want to get it you still can, just with higher risk
puberty blockers have been used since the 1970s. There is plenty of research on the effects of the drug on children. There is not much research on whether puberty blockers specifically help with gender dysphoria, because there is a general lack of research on transgender issues. However, it is pretty obvious what the benefits of postponing puberty for a transgender person are in my personal opinion.
In my experience people who say things like that are trying to imply that an invisible line has been crossed and therefore these things need to be stopped with laws. "The lgbtq has gone too far" has been a very common refrain over the last few years.
This!!! Honestly this isn't even the first time Phil has reported on this kinda thing happening. I don't even understand how people can be shocked about it. The title just made me roll my eyes
It's going to be a long write up, but it's deeply important context for the UK puberty blockers story at 16:35: The report Streeting cites does not have a 'lack of evidence' issue, the issue is the Cass report dismisses every study that is not 'double-blind' as invalid which is every positive study on the subject. Upon dismissing these studies, they conclude, 'there's not enough evidence', making the issue seem more contested than it actually is. The reason double-blind studies do not matter in this context, outside major ethical issues that would come with carrying out a double-blind study on puberty blockers: It's physically impossible. If you cannot tell which patient was given which hormone, you shouldn't be a doctor. As chances are, the patient growing breasts might have been given estrogen, the one with a beard etc. etc. The author of the Cass report actually walked it back due to these very issues, yet the UK government is still citing it, without once addressing a single issue brought up with it by anybody in the medical field. If you take all the information at face value without dismissing valid evidence for invalid reasons, you end up with the obvious conclusion that we keep coming to time and again: Trans healthcare helps trans people. The bigger story here is that Wes Streeting, a man with no background within practising medicine, is being allowed to dictate medical practices on the basis of either intentional maliciousness, a zealot ant-trans prejudice, or genuine ignorance. If it were your healthcare or anybody else's, and you were concerned about something and wanted a doctor to look at it, you likely would not be satisfied if this politician, stood at the back of the room, haphazardly trying to advise the doctor, and saying 'trust me' whenever the doctor said he was reading the charts wrong. The fact that any person without a career in practising medicine is allowed to overstep actual doctors and experts shows the state of the UK government. Keep in mind, as stated, puberty blockers are not banned for minors, just transgender minors. Any minors with growth issues will still have access to them without an issue. Which further highlights the absurdity of the ban. The patterns of medical apathy heavily remind me of the HIV pandemic, and will equally lead to countless avoidable deaths. Another important note of context for this video in particular: The video editor showed a picture of Tavistock at 22:54 as an example of the 'contested nature' within Europe, but the same organization did a 10-year, peer reviewed, long-term study on puberty blockers and came to the conclusion that it helps almost everybody on there with unusually high numbers for any medical study, let alone this one. & The European Academy of Paediatrics who are cited in the quote said in the exact same text quoted that "Puberty blockers may be justified in those severely troubled by lack of congruence between gender identity and sex, as delaying puberty and proceeding to transition may be less harmful than the long-term consequences of GnRH-a therapy." - The quote cited was specific, and out of context I think it is unintentionally misleading.
I'm mostly upset at her team. This was something extremely dangerous and the risks to her safety weren't handled even remotely well enough for the sake of pushing her into it. That's a failure on the part of the people who were supposed to help her.
I agree. In the broader context, this is why I'm for legalizing sex work. This kind of work needs guardrails and safety checks, things you can't implement if it's illegal.
@@dutchvanlwhy? Try reading the studies out of countries with “safe and legal” practices, the rates of ptsd, depression, addiction, self elimination are massive compared to the general population. It’s just a gross industry trading for some material wealth at the cost of your own self. That goes for both men and women.
That last quote perfectly summed up how i felt... Until you shared that she planned to do it again. Now I don't feel bad, instead I think the one that said it was just tears of disappointment is correct.
she clearly has issues and to me, it seems like a recreation of trauma. Nobody can stop her I guess but its just a show to how disgusting most men and the porn industry is
I dunno I think she’s just trying to get that clout now and will do it despite her mental health or physical health. I wonder if this is her way of self harm
Ewww unless youre the 1st guy, thats nasty, did you see the room afterwards, it smelled bad enough to almost make the guy vomit, condoms leaking everywhere, im disappointed in so called men every day @mmafyasco
As a trans person, every day just feels like more and more heartbreak as I see people getting hurt by government intervention. This care is lifesaving, I would not be here today without my gender affirming care. I went from failing out of school and being constantly suicidal before, to now feeling empowered in myself and soon to be graduating college with a 4.0 Gpa. This care is lifesaving and it’s so upsetting to see it being taken away from people who just want to build a better life for themselves
It really must be a confusing life being trans, I mean on the one hand you are a person just wanting to align their mental image with a body that fits. But on the other hand trans people are apparently akin to super villains, skulking around plotting to take down schools,morals,various governments and the military. How do you go through your day being told you have such powers, by just existing?.
if only it was this simple. the field of gender dysphoria has been highly understudied and you have been an experiment. luckily one with a good result but an experiment non the less.
Not only is what Lily did NOT new in the industry, its actually old hat going back at least 40 years. Either way as long as its done safely i dont care
The Hannah situation is crazy. Imagine doing a greed card scheme for $15,000 and not telling anyone in your family, causing your father to kill himself trying to find you. Imaging doing anything knowing that everyone in your family thinks you went missing and not contacting family at all. If her father's death was a suicide and she was never in danger, I hope she lives with that guilt and it haunts her for the rest of her life. Man might have died thinking his daughter was being trafficked or dead when she was never in danger.
The bans on puberty blockers and "treatment leading to sterilization" rough to discuss. As someone (Canadian) who considers myself trans, I had to jump through hoops to get treatment, including driving 2 hours to Torontos Sick Kids hospital as they were the first place with open slots in their gender clinic. At 12, I was too far along in puberty for any blockers, so they suggested an estrogen based BC. Over 4 years I was put on many different types until I aged out, with all of them coming with horrible side effects. During this time I was diagnosed with Endometriosis and went through similar hoops to get treatment, finally being put on a medication that does sterlize me and helps with both pain and gender dysphoria. 3 years later (delays with covid) I got a complete hysterectomy and have felt 10000% happier since, even though I am now on estrogen instead of testosterone (more sideffects than bc, yay 😅) as I have more control over my presentation.
I hope the hysterectomy didnt cause too many hormonal imbalances 😭 ive heard that happens and drives people “crazy” cuz they feel all over the place mentally sometimes
@@QuestionableDudes 100% no on the birth control, but it's likely just a sensitivity to the hormones, but 100000% on the medication and surgery that put me into menopause for 4 years even with the side effects. I got my life back.
As is always the case when anyone mentions Liz Cheney and moderate in the same sentence, I'd just like to remind everyone that in Trump's first term, she voted with him 93% of the time.
Which makes sense, because Trump is pretty moderate himself. You gotta touch grass more, look at actual policies and actions versus how much you hate the guy. True right-wingers felt like he wasn't right enough. For example they didn't like that he refused to support a Federal abortion ban. If you take away his stupid tweets and shit-talking during debates and base an analysis purely on policy and actions, he's pretty moderate. So if she voted along-side him, then she'd be pretty moderate too.
Not for the "weak" girl, it is weak giving into such impulses and be so attention seeking to get that bag instead of building character, taking a respectful education and have some morals. Strong women seek to earn their money by contribute to society in a way that dont drag society as a whole down.
Lily deliberately and willingly traumatized herself, ultimately because she "thought" she could handle it. Not realizing the actual danger, or toll such a marathon would exact on her both physically and mentally. She went into this feeling impowered, and came out of it a victim of her own hubris. I honestly feel sorry for her, and for her lack of forethought and critical thinking skills. Whether she believes it or not, she will need intense therapy to just feel "normal" again after all this, assuming that she ever will feel normal again.
I don’t she traded those things for kind of millions of dollars you don’t get that kind of money for free and you certainly don’t get it without hurting people might be others might be yourself
This sorta vomes off victim-blamey. She consented but this happens in normal sex- sometimes you think you want something and don't. Not your fault for not knowing lmao. But yeah, I think this reaction may be a trauma one...
Regarding the Lily Phillips situation, I think the main issue here is the seeming lack of preparation and due diligence that went into the event. Even a quick search on Google will show that this is far from the first time someone has done something like this and with higher counts too. It's just that most other times, they tend to have been for a professional shoot (that hopefully had more thorough vetting). And that this time, the person was given a platform that reached mainstream audiences and attention.
Wishing the best for Lily. Fantasies aren't always like what you expect. I hope she can do what she loves and get the help she needs after what this whole thing turned out to be
Lily should have had people helping her. Like a Manager, Bouncers, etc. She should have told them the rules and they should have been the ones telling the guys No or that their time was up, etc. Now she's definitely going to need therapy.
she should have just not done it...its gross its going to have a bad end result regardless of whether she broke down or not but its her choice so idgaf
What about the guys? This idea that it will only harm her when they had an intimate moment possibly with someone they had a para social relationships with, can't imagine that won't harm them.
The situation with Lily Philips is very complicated. She’s seen a lot of negative press but if anything I just feel bad. I wouldn’t necessarily see a problem with it if safe guards are in place. At the same time though we shouldn’t act like we know inside her brain based off our own biases, I hope she is okay.
The Lily Philips case just makes me appreciate the safeguards that porn actors have fought for and gained in the professional porn industry. OnlyFans creators don’t have that. Clearly, her “team” doesn’t fully appreciate what supporting her would be like. I don’t really watch porn (not against it if it’s consensual), but even I know that trying to do the proper safeguards in a situation like this as an uninformed sex worker is basically impossible. A sex therapist and other professional porn actors/sex workers should have been involved to not necessarily dissuade her, but help her fully grasp what she was getting into.
I don’t think you understand what only fans has done for the porn industry. It put all the power into the hands of the porn star. No longer do women have to trust sus men who don’t have their best interests in heart. Onlyfans models have all the power if they own their accounts. The safeguards you’re talking about need to be put in place by the onlyfans models. But it’s still a much safer option than traditional porn and gives the power back to the women completely. It’s her choice when it comes to EVERYTHING on onlyfans. You don’t have that kind of control when you show up to someone else’s set.
@@Jirangaaa She had no idea what she was getting into, and frankly no one to really warn her. That's what the comment you were responding to was wanting, someone with experience to let her make a fully formed decision. You can tell she wasn't ready for it just from the before and after interviews.
@@Jirangaaa Never once infantilized her. People who have sex still need to have some discussions/info before their first orgy. Saying that isn’t infantilizing anyone. It’s actually treating them like adults who can think critically and logically based on the information they receive and deserve to have. If she decided to do this after being fully informed of things, then she absolutely could go for it. Consent is important, but so is informed consent and proper aftercare.
Phil, this is a dangerously biased way to discuss the bans on trans affirming healthcare. You mentioned the Cass Study as if it hadn’t been torn to shreds by almost every science-communicator/educator’s channel on YT, let alone the papers published reviewing it into the ground. It’s completely unacceptable to both-sides this subject when we actually have decades of research, we already have the general answers, and further research (done professionally and responsibly) is being done every day because-surprise-turns out the queer community also cares about our queer kids, ffs. I am sorry if I sound enraged, but this sort of misinformation in both-sidsing such a pivotal topic could contribute to parents of a trans kid in your audience getting the wrong impression and preventing their kid from accessing the care they may need, if it’s even available in their area. The Cass Review would not have passed my AP science classes in high school, for Pete’s sake! It’s absolute trash, and when you do even a little research or read the report yourself, anyone should be able to identify the problems. But, again, there are tons of videos on here tearing it apart and explaining why things are problems. Please do a follow up on this after you have some basis of knowledge here or talk to a trans person, at the very least! Why not have Erin Reed on? She’s a fantastic journalist who reports on everything around trans related laws and healthcare, and she’s also trans herself. Please. I know the team who puts this show together isn’t trying to be ignorant or bigoted or spread misinformation, and the fact that some governments are caving to the machinations of their own Far Right members does confuse things, as does the willingness of a few bigoted doctors to form organizations solely to try to end trans affirming healthcare. It’s gotta be hard to know who to listen to if you don’t have an educational background that taught you to evaluate if a medical study is sound or not. So, just speak to actual experts. This is such a serious subject. There is so much potential harm, but it’s the trans kids not getting the care they need that’s the danger. There are so many trans people who are harmed by not being able to access/afford medical care as it is, but it’s so much harder on the kids. Remember how upsetting puberty can be anyway? Imagine if you were turning into the “wrong” gender for who you are inside? That would be so horrifying. Especially at that age. These kids sometimes act in desperation and try to do surgery on themselves. Which obviously requires emergency intervention or they can die from the injuries. No one wants cis kids to somehow get wrapped up in the idea and decide to do something they’ll regret later, and that’s part of why almost never do kids get anything but reversible treatments. Statistically, it’s a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population who ever regret any part of their transition, and there are thousands more kids who are denied the care they need and have much worse outcomes because of it. Which is totally unnecessary, of course, we have the data, we have *extremely* effective treatments, we have great screening programs that should be used everywhere, the only roadblocks are bigotry and a for-profit healthcare system.
I also came here to critique the coverage, and highlight the issues with taking the Cass report as gospel - so it's not just you raising that in the comments
Wanted to comment to say I concur. The Cass Report is a heavily criticised if not entirely debunked literature review that needs a full throated condemnation anytime it comes up
@@willowtdog6449 lol talk about bided non sense. Giving kids anything is ludicrous and it isn’t fully reversible. Let kids be kids, it’s all a trend. The world is healing now
Fully agree, its really sad to see. a lot of the evidence supplyed for these bans is that other "well, countries are doing them" and thats held up like some gold standard. I have yet to see a single study that says that gender affirming care makes our lives worse, its only ever "all those study's that say your incredibly happy with your care are weak, so we think you should stop".
Allowing somebody to self destruct to the point that they sleep with 100 random men back to back is absolutely disgusting. This woman needs a better support system and people that actually care about her. It is very clear this had a terrible impact on her mental health.
It's so funny people were mad at men; if you sell yourself as a product like its fast food and people are hungry and buy it that's fine it's consensual, but most people don't grind for years just to go all in on red for a single combo meal from McDonalds, they want real relationships with real people which is easily available.
I've had two comments and I'm of three minds about the 100 people situation because I don't know how TH-cam is censoring today, Lily did decide to do this. If it was her management who put it in her head and they were the driving forces they should have put more checks and balances in, if it was mainly her or a cooperative effort then she failed with basic due diligence about safety because she didn't know how intimately transmitted diseases work, It sucks that she didn't do this like some other events, because she was not the first woman who decided to have intimacy with loads of men on camera. She may be one of the first who decided to do it behind closed doors for each man individually, there should have been more checks and balances making sure when that time is up someone comes in be like "get the F out" type thing maybe give you a 20-second buffer "if you have to go a little longer go but that's it" but it seems like that wasn't in place so it was just poorly thought out.
I just can't comprehend the Lily situation. It feels so surreal that someone willingly agreed to go through something like that and plans to increase it by 10 fold next year? I genuinely think she needs help, it feels like she's going down a very dangerous path.
Why does she need help for enjoying something you don't understand? Similar to Lily, I have a kink that makes me enjoy the idea of what she did - why is that wrong? Why does that bother you? Who are we hurting? It's incredible how men have no issue with girls going into porn for all the wrong reasons, but when someone does it for the right reason and actually enjoys herself, everyone is immediately alarmed. We can't have that, women genuinely enjoying what we have been enjoying... stop her immediately.
I remember thinking a few years ago that now was a decent time to trans, sure there were a few people who were fearmongering but it still was looking optimistic long-term. I no longer think this, and am actively fearful for my future.
Similar experience here, as of November my girlfriend and I are planning on moving out of country as soon as we can, out of fear for her health and safety
You should seek mental help if you think you are trans. The time for weirdos is over yall had 4 years of thinking you were normal. NO MORE back to the shadows with you. Seek help whatever you were born as is all you'll ever be. No such thing as 2 spirits or whatever you dorks try to say
Yeah, apart from the obvious logistical issues with Lilly Phillips, which really should have been solved. This feels akin to people seeing 50 Shades and thinking all BDSM is like that. If you engage in any kind of extreme consensual sex you need to be appropriately prepared for the come down, to have comfort and to have support when the "scene" ends. It can bring up emotions, but that doesn't mean it wasn't what you wanted. Even as a professional, immediately asking her questions that require her to validate her decisions is not going to be what you need in that moment.
I'm disgusted with the whole OF situation itself. There's a part of me that really wonders how much she was talked into this. I want to know how much money the people on her team were making. I'm just a random guy from Alaska and yet I can come up with a million reasons a member of my team should not go through with this. The monetary value is not worth the potential self-harm you could be causing
My partner works in the online adult entertainment industry, and creates exclusively solo content. The reason is that, while it can absolutely make more money to create content with random people, it’s just inherently *SIGNIFICANTLY* less safe. All it takes is one person who fakes an STI test, one person who doesn’t follow the rules, one person who decides to not respect consent, and suddenly you have a very serious and life-altering situation on your hands. There’s a reason that when large professional studios make content like this, it takes months of planning, logistics, and vetting before the shoot, and very tight security, contracts, and lots of support staff the day of the shoot. It feels like this had much less planning, logistics, and support throughout, and it’s a shame. Also to the point that the envelope is constantly being pushed in that space, that’s absolutely true. While it’s become much easier for the average person to get into the industry, that’s meant that it becomes MUCH harder to stand out from the crowd. If you’re a performer and not willing to do something, there’s someone else out there who IS (either for enjoyment or from desperation), and there is also always someone willing to do it for less. There is a proverbial “race to the bottom” going on, so I expect stories like this to pop up more and more, especially once you see the financial incentives on the back end to creating more (and more eye-catching) content.
I saw a documentary where stars from a network had a 5 person shoot and despite getting tested every two weeks, someone had contracted HIV in between and ended up giving it to all 5 people. The safety measures are absolutely necessary and even then, they’re not fail proof
It's easy to be complacent in the US when violence is growing around the world. But it does feel like only a matter of time before this trend reaches our doorstep. Scary stuff.
I agree but how much is he personally walking away with? I mean 10 mil would probably be way more than enough for average person if they are spending around 150k a year roughly estimated but this is all opinion based.
Sure… but they belonged to buzzfeed which I had no idea, and frankly am glad that it’s over already!😂😂😂 Now they won’t have to risk being tainted by the horribly heinous racists in buzzfeed!
Hey Phil, trans woman here who just became an adult and was lucky enough to start hormones at 17. If I wasn't able to get the care that I started when I was 16 I genuinely don't think I'd be here today. The years before my transition I was a bored, apathetic, kid that didn't really care much about the future. And although transitioning didn't solve everything, it made me want to care to do more with my life. It gave me hope. It gave me a future that I genuinely cared for and wanted to work towards. I could imagine myself happy. All of these bans just seem to be putting more kids who were like me in danger of never being able to live out happy lives. Politicians are playing with the lives of trans children and it's sick. These medications have been researched for decades and are completely fine when used for the care of cis kids. But as soon as trans kids want them it becomes something we need to panic over it. This is only exemplified by how the ban in UK doesn't affect cis kids who need them to delay an early puberty I know some people might say, "Why can't you just wait until you're an adult". And to that I say you don't know the anguish and the horror of having to watch your body slowly slip into something that isn't yours, that you're disgusted by. Watch the one of the primary ways people see you and understand you slowly become the exact opposite of how you see yourself, possibly permanently. To know that your body is changing into something you loathe and there's nothing you can do to change it. I was lucky enough to only experience it for a few months since I was able to get hormones a year after coming out at 16. And I had really supportive family and friends to help me get through the first year. But to go through that experience without the knowledge that there is a way out soon. Especially if that knowledge comes with the fact that I don't have a strong support system and I live in an area that doesn't accept me. It creates a feeling of hopelessness in a lot of kids that can really fuck up their last years of adolescence and first years of adulthood. I hate to see the younger generations be denied the same opportunity to happiness that I was granted.
The irony of saying government is playing with the lives of children when you're advocating for affirmative care when the doctors themselves are telling us there isn't enough evidence to support it's efficacy.
That girl is going to need therapy to process this. Yes, it was her choice, but she put pressure on herself, let things slide, and seeing her after, that’s worrisome. I recommend that she get tested and get all the help she needs to move forward. I hope I doing so, she rethinks her future plans to beat her record. There’s always going to be another record to break.
When you have any health issue, be it mental or not, banning care without any call for action to quickly research means banning the humans affected. In the US, we need to have the ability to study hormone blockers on children and if it is banned, we will not be able to even research. It’s why THC research is only just now starting to come out in this country…
see, this is what people who have zero knowledge of this area of care. 1. trans affirming healthcare-- what is being blocked in this bill-- is so many other things other than hormone blockers. it can be speech therapy, or counseling. 2. hormone blockers do exactly that. when a child is pre-pubesent, it pauses hormones so they have the time to go thru all the steps they need to to make sure they want to go that route. never mind that the de-trainsitioning is so rare as to be almost non-existant, hormone blockers are safe, and the least harmful option even if they should decide they don't want to transition. if they decide against it, they simply stop taking the blockers, and they hit puberty just like everyone else. there is LITERALLY NO HARM DONE. i don't know how to say this any clearer. hormone blockers are the best thing you can do for a trans or questioning kid. it's just a pause button that will prevent them from going thru so much pain.
@the_CineCita exactly! "We need more reasearch!" Is something you say as you make plans to do research, not something you should say while banning the recommended and safe treatment already available and in use! They ignore the research and pretend that the weird twisted lies and misleading arguments made by people with no expertise or experience are anywhere near as weighted as the numerous grown adults who have not been harmed by puberty blockers since the 80s, or the doctors who reccomend it because it works
@the_CineCita when children are allowed to grow natural, most detransition. However most children that are placed on puberty blockers progress on to full transition. It is literally harmful to PURPOSEFULY impair healthy body pa
I mean puberty blockers alone might not cause the issue, but that is not all that is done. Puberty blockers along with estrogen or testosterone could impact your fertility as a man or woman. The problem is that it is done to children who are not deemed adult enough to drink or drive yet are able to decide on such an life altering decision as hormone therapy with puberty blockers. Especially as we are seeing more and more that trans people with regret trying to de-transition are having a lot of difficulties doing so because of the treatment.
I think what sucks is, while she's perfectly within her right to choose to do what she did, it's super damaging to other workers in her own industry what she did. Like if people were stigmatizing the industry before, a lot of them sure are after this. The comments she's getting are a clear example of it. And yeah, while I am pro-s*x work, I do think what she did could constitute self-harm, or at the very least self-endangerment. I'm not saying she should be arrested or anything crazy like that, but she definitely should seek some kind of help. I also don't buy the whole "s*xual assault" nonsense about it. She gave them 5 minutes and some went over, yes, but clearly she was flexible about it and this type of situation is unprecedented to begin with. If they were there to harm her, they would've done so.
Yeah I think that if you have a negative view of sex industry then this would satisfy all your points, but agreed, she had an opportunity to take more control of the situation, if only surrounding stds. But doing it all in one day is another issue with the whole thing. It's just not healthy to have sex with 100 different, untested people in one day, that's literally not controversial, that's textbook risky behavior. Medically. But it's a medical risk she's allowed to make, but then she needs legal representation who is there to keep her and other participants safe before, during, and after a stunt like this.
how is this unprecedented? there are thousands of similar examples from just this month. you could literally join in this in Times Square in the 70’s. and how is this more dangerous than 100 different times? and how does it stigmatize the industry at all? very overblown response to nothing big or new
The norm of pardoning and commuting sentences for a new leader is quite interesting for me as someone from the UK because I feel like my country would have a melt down from doing such a thing. We are so obsessed with fearmongering and usually I get to point to the US and say "thank goodness we're not doing that" but on this occaision I feel kind of envious that our own leadership cannot actually take a look at who is imprisoned for the wrong reasons and do the right thing.
@@conormurphy4328I don't know about that. When you consider the way politicians in the UK can so easily be pushed to resign. It is also something you could legislate against.
The lily situation is so infuriating. As a SWer it’s disheartening. No one judges the men that that filmed with her, but they show her as an infantized little women that can’t handle sex work.
All I can say for the Lily Philips story is just why? She can do whatever she wants but what was the point in sleeping with 100 men and NOW wanting to sleep with a thousand men? Just to be a record seems too dangerous because she already had issues with 100 men. Just thinking on what would happen with a thousand men to me seems like it could go much worse.
Regarding your story about Lilly and the 100 men, the lack of empathy towards this woman shows how close to the sociopathic cliff our society has come. With comments like "She's a grown woman who made a choice," etc., people make stupid choices all the time! Just look at some of mankind's history. And a lot of those mistakes were made by people who were supposed to be clear thinking. Any woman choosing to sleep with 100 men in a day, no less, is clearly going through some type of mental distress and is trying to hurt herself. I find it particularly disturbing that she was laser focused on whether or not the men enjoyed themselves even though she was experiencing her own discomfort! What's worse is she had a "team" so focused on the documentary that her humanity was discounted! Shame on them. This woman needs therapy. Shame on us for being a society that allows this type of sensationalized "documentary" and making this a normal thing!
They definitely should have continued giving thalidomide to pregnant women! Why stop just to study if its causing harm? It’s an existing treatment…it stops nausea, and it’s cruel to stop using it to “gather evidence.”
They did stuff like this during the AIDs crisis in the 80s. Watch Dallas Buyers Club that’s based on a true story. The cruelty is the point. It’s their bodies. They can choose for themselves.
Puberty blockers and hormones are harm mitigation. It takes a lot of counseling and informed consent to get on them as a minor. The whole purpose of harm mitigation is that even if there are risks, they are still lower danger than the harm that would happen otherwise. Think of it like surgery. Surgery is not safe. There are plenty of people that die or get permanent damage from surgeries. The reason we do surgeries is the outcomes are almost always better after surgery than otherwise.@@GuineaParents
Just wanted to say Phil is looking really good. like long time fan from the sourcefed days, and he looks younger than back then. Eating well and working out definitely paying off especially when it helps with your long time neck pain haven’t seen it in a thumbnail in a long time! 😂
1) I feel bad for Lily. I agree that she could have some mental health problems, that have probably been made worse by the decision to go through with this. I do not know why she would want to try it again after crying after the first experience. I hope that the people around her can advise her better, her physical and mental health matter and her life is more important than whatever is driving her towards making such obviously poor decisions. 2) Regarding the issue of offering hormone blockers to children, it is essential that we have all the data before administering things that could be life-changing to children. As a parent, it feels like pushing this so hard on our children without considering their health is some kind of grooming. Offer mental health treatment for children going through this, but for now, with the limited data we have, allow the children to make these decisions when they are adults. We don't allow children to vote, drink, or smoke, but then we expect them to make potentially lifelong altering decisions when they are still young. 3) It is unfortunate that there are so many conflict-related tragedies in the world today when we should have learnt from past mistakes, and more regretable is the fact that some conflicts such as the Anglophone crisis in Cameroon that have been going on for years and no one seems to be talking about it.
In terms of the Lily Phillips situation, i feel like every opinion that has come from it in one way or another is a correct evaluation. It is simple situation on paper that was excecuted brashly by everyone involved.
When it comes to Hannah Kobayashi, I can understand waiting for things to flush out and answers to be found. But I'm of the opinion that the public is owed some answers for 2 reasons: her father is no longer with us, and the amount of tax payer money spent on what could very well been misunderstood and intentional life choice. I'm at a loss how to interpret the fathers passing, for this.
Well, that Hot Ones story was quite a roller coaster. First you had me worried by mentioning it, then I was happy to see them achieving greater success, and then finally you reminded how much Buzzfeed otherwise sucks.
4:21 as someone who has and sometimes still does sleep with men as a form of self harm this is incredibly real. It hurts to see others call her disgusting when you really don’t understand the true reasons behind why someone may do this. It’s ESPECIALLY notable when she mentions disassociation. You disappeared into your mind and see yourself as nothing but an object. It’s not disgusting, it’s heartbreaking.
My heart dropped when i saw the FirstWeFeast sell story. Then it came back to life when i saw it wasn't bought by some random billionaires but by the people who actually care and literally made the company what it is today
Sex work is work. Was what she did risky? Yes. This is why these platforms need regulation and compulsory medical education and checks to ensure events like this are safe and boundaries kept for everyone involved. But it truly isnt any different to any daredevil or escape artist stunt. If sex work stigma is removed then proper training and safeguards can more easily be put in place just like a stunt actor.
It feels very frustrating to me that the people who decide whether or not trans people get care are politicians and judges who don't have the education that doctors do. Like the Hipocratic Oath says to first do no harm, so doctors aren't going to do anything that they think will harm a patient. These laws and rulings are so dehumanizing to trans people for no reason other than cruelty.
Children have too go threw puberty. that's natures process. if they turn 18 and they decide so they can as they're legally teenage adults. if you fuck with nature it fucks back resulting in bodily malfunctions in many area's.
It was Lily's choice, and I'm not anti porn but the fact she didn't know that you can get HIV from oral was really concerning. It's important for sex workers of any kind to know how diseases can be transmitted and the fact she didn't seem to know or care genuinely does make me worry about these being self harming behaviors. in the end though she's a grown adult and while I can worry it's not my place as an internet stranger to tell her to stop. I hope she's okay.
DAMN. What a great point on the possible self harming behavior.
I agree, I kind of think she needs a better team. Someone on her team should be educating her about the risks she clearly doesn't understand she's taking. if she doesn't know about HIV, does she know about any of the other STIs she could get? Is she aware of the risk of infection if she isn't properly lubricated or doesn't wash the ejaculate from her eyes? It feels like she's very young and not well educated on sex as an act and it just feels like she needs an older, much more experienced sex worker on her team to educate her.
Doing too much of anything, whether it's eating, drinking, gambling, or sex in this case, is called addiction and it's a problem that needs to be addressed.
I hope she's on Prep
Her doctor has said don’t do this, multiple times
The Lily Phillips situation had problems that all stemmed from logistics. Her & her team should have spend *at least* a MONTH not only vetting the participants, but making sure they knew *what* was expected of them and what they were *allowed* to do. Honestly, even if it meant they had fewer applicants, they should have signed a contract!
This, like I vet like a single man I'll meet from the internet. Like not vetting 100 is literally insane.
@@NoxNyx666 woman today just built different.
Contracts, security, extensive screening, a face to face interview between her and every single successful applicant, medical professionals on standby before, during, and after, extensive legal counsel on potential issues, and a mandatory mental health check-in before AND afterwards.
So many things needed to happen that just straight up didn't because she is a complete newbie to this kind of thing, and it doesn't really seem like anyone from her "team" really sat down with her and both stressed the importance of safety here and was in her corner during, either. Someone should have been present to pull people off of her after their allotted time was up, if necessary.
The fact that no one did, that no one was willing to do something like that, shows that nobody there truly cared about her safety and well-being. That whole situation was a textbook lesson in people not knowing what the hell they're doing.
I signed up for the 1000. Hopefully I'm not in the 900s
I think the bigger problem is that a combination of greed and the need for stardom resulted in her making a high risk decision that made her a potential super-spreader of multiple incurable diseases. This type of recklessness blows my mind.
“What if you get HIV?”
“Is that where it comes from?”
Holy shit she is not smart enough to pull this off safely
Sad thing is this is true for many many people
That blew my fkin mind.
The lily story is a reminder that reality and fantasy are not the same. Reality tends to break out fantasy; sometimes fantasy seems so good, till the reality happens and its not like what you have fantized.
Well, she mustv'e liked it a bit because now she's actively planning to do 1k men in a day... Yeah,,,
@@iannadevin7385 good reminder for dads to stay in families
I have a whole suite of fantasies that, if I were given the opportunity to live them out in reality, I'd have to decline. Some things are legitimately better kept as fantasies, even if everything seems like it's being done right.
Best comment. It is amazing what the porn industry (especially non-Western) is allowed to get away with. Western porn themes are pretty damn tame. Foreign films can get really horrendous by our standards and the women that participate in those _must_ experience psychological damage. Even if it is a fantasy, there’s a reason that we moderate the themes so heavily in the West.
yeah, like the time i spent a year working in thailand as a glorified gigalo for the ladyboy clubs, the clubs paid me to stick it in there performers to help them "destress" i made good money, but sex became boring after a week, to this day i still see sex as a chore not a pleasure
I'm in the camp of why did she rush to do this at the cost of safety. It's not like there weren't enough men or a time limit? If she makes the money she claims she can afford a third party to vet them. Have an intimacy counselor from films onsite to manage people, etc. She put clout over her own safety
I mean, if you listen to her; she literally did put her own clout and the big almighty dollar over her own safety.
@@CalculatorTI89and she wants to do it two more times in a month. With 300 then 1,000 just to break the record. 100% on her she is 23
This! There was no need to rush, she could have taken the time that was needed and plan it all out. I also think the absence of an intimacy councilor is so felt in this entire situation. Like all of this could have been avioded if things were planned properly. And ffs why in 2024 almost 2025 do we have such crappy sex ed? This is frustrating.
Youse are acting like this is the first time ever someone has put money and fame over safety. She’s an adult woman not a child let her live her life god damn
I don't think she genuinely thought through the physical and psychological consequences at all. It's kinda sad that it was the documentary guy who brought up these really important considerations instead of all the other people around her.
“I’ve been disappointed by too many people over the past two decades.” That is so real. I feel this so much. 😂
Also a clever way to cover your ass for associating with scum in the past because we all know PD doesn't want to be like one of the many people he will talk about getting cancelled over previous affiliations or pasts tweets.
Didn't even know Hot Ones was owned by Buzzfeed
I always expected it to have some backing somewhere, and for some reason I thought that company was never mentioned for a reason. This now makes sense.
I just checked because I knew he was under Complex. Turns Out BuzzFeed owned Complex then BuzzFeed sold Complex this year, but they probably separate Hot Ones/First We Feast into it's own organizations
News to me too.
Buzzfeed was already awful. Using AI to drive your content will (hopefully) be the final nail in its coffin
😂 Amen!
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BuzzFeed just needs to buzz off🪰🔫
All social media sites use AI to drive your content. That’s what the “algorithms” are. That’s what AI currently is. Algorithms.
Perfect example of the AI irony meme.
The dream: machines do all the menial labor and people can focus on art and creativity.
The reality: the machines make all the art and creativity, and the people do all the menial labor.
About the Lily Philips situation, I think it speaks more broadly to our approach not just to pornography, but to spectacle and social interactions; which are both greatly influenced by our economic system. Competition, standing out, becoming “viral”… We’ve commodified our lives and this is pushing people to do things they wouldn’t normally do to the detriment of their physical and mental health in exchange for exposure and a sense of belonging.
Capitalism 🎉
>blaming capitalism for being a slut
unironically 10/10
"Is that where it comes from?" Apparently the UK's sex ed is just as bad as America's.
Holy crap, that was insane. Like, what the fuck, how can that not be taught???
@@w4iph It is taught, but you can't force teens to listen and pay attention.
She was being sarcastic…
@@madamek8656 that's what i thought
That’s not even how you get HIV
The way she's describing it, how intense it was, honestly reminded me of how I would describe what it's like working a busy customer service job. Needing to be friendly enough to make sure they're having a good time but quick enough to get them in and out. Which, when sex becomes a transactional experience like a customer service job, is it fun anymore?
That's a really good point. I see it similarly.
I see it similarly in the sense of after a long, demanding shift, I can be sort of tearful and overwhelmed. But it doesn’t mean I don’t like my job, that was just a hard day and a hard part of it. The last line just makes me think “well probably not for me, but I wouldn’t ever have Lily’s job.”
I think it’s good to view sex work as work. Does everyone like their job? Does that mean they should quit?
@@dorissaclaire no but she should. She needs a father and some self respect
Unless of course you are addicted to it. In this case Workaholic=
Whomever it was that said “do what you love for a living and you’ll never work a day in your life” was an idiot. Even setting your favorite song as your alarm makes you hate that song.
I could swear Phil had done a Hot Ones episode and yes he did. It was 6 years ago. God damn time flies. You know what that means Phil, time do round 2 now!
Doing Phil a favour: ✋😐
Doing Phil a flavour: ☝️😄
I'm going to start saying this 😂
You did us all a flavor by memeing it proper.
🫵 Bri'ish!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught it. I rewound twice just to make sure. Lol
What flavor do you think he was hoping for? I’m gonna guess mint chocolate chip.
As long as it isn't strawberry
I'm glad to see Sean Evans will now have a real stake in the ownership of the show he's had such a large role in making so popular. His stomach lining may have long disintegrated, but now he's a big boss.
A big part of the reason it took Buzzfeed this long to sell First We Feast (they've been trying for like a year and a half) is ironically *because* of Sean Evans. Sean Evans IS the brand - what if someone paid $70 million (the initial asking price) and then Sean just decided to up and leave 6 months later? Then you just paid $70 million for bupkis. Sean having more of an ownsership/executive role was essential for any kind of deal to go through.
@@PalmelaHandersonhe really was carrying the first we feast channel for the almost a decade. He was the channel before they started expanding with burgers and Ester Choi spicy channel.
Anake killed big boss
Aside from her being vile and outrageously uneducated about STI’s - Her team didn’t support her at all, no control on time, no support in regards to taking jackets /shoes. No cleaning the room, no background checks, no valid checks of STI’s, inviting rando’s at the last minute to fill up those who dropped out. Not taking care of her sustinance- all while taking money from her. I am baffled.
Aftercare is important for exactly this reason
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also: CONSENT IS QUEEN
Probably the simplest but most impactful comment on this situation. 1 man treating you like a body can give the same effect without aftercare
@@AceBobcatconsent is everything
This is an insane edge case in human interactions. I don't think much of anything normal applies to this. It's commercial scale human relations.
I clicked the screen just as this popped up and got jump scared by phil.
and sleeping with 100 guys??? I was unprepared.
Sign me up
I can't believe Phil did that, but go Phil!
She wasn't prepared either turns out.
Google the “Houston 500”
Pump up those numbers young lady.
Girl wants to step it up to 1k in a day‽ if she gives each guy 1 minute and they all stick to that time that’s over 16 hours. Idk if it’s feasible
just logistically, idk how Lily Phillips would even get past 1K sex partners in a day… like it took 8 hrs for just 100 + her showers/breaks, and included her breaking down bc she felt dissatisfied at the end with how it went, on top of their scheduling issues… like this is 10x that
It would have to be in groups. Or maybe everybody only gets a pump in.
Yeah, the math ain't mathing.
200, possibly, 1000, no, not without seriously changing things up.
Is she event including the D2F ratio in the calculations?
I don't think she was "dissatisfied". I think she was tired and exhausted (understandably so!)
The fact that Lily's team said that " she took it like a champ ", first, um no it sounds like she didn't have a fun time and even some of the participants had a bad time afterwards. Second, what a gross way to put it
I wonder if she’s being exploited as well
What she did was gross. Seems par for the course
She did it with 100 people. It's not meant to be like 100 one on one separate encounters. "Didn't have a fun time"... FFS. There's not enough lube in the world to make the situation physically pleasurable, that wasn't even the point of her doing it.
Yall are wild. She basically just ran a sex marathon. Sex aside, it is an amazing physical feat. I can't tell you if she had fun or not. It sounds like she was just concerned that all of her guests were not having a good time (like any good host would).
As for the guys; it's very possible that homeboy freaked out after he learned how many guys fucked her before he got a shot. It takes a certain kind of man to be fully ok with sloppy 80ths (usually pros). Since these men do not seem to be pros, they probably are not mentally cut out for it.
She's a grown adult was her choice dont start blaming her team or anyone else it's all on her she doesn't get to play the victim now like wtf
What Lily Philips did was dangerous. End of story. She put herself at risk and was lucky that nothing else went wrong, and I seriously hope she reconsiders attempting it again.
Agreed, I’m usually very much in the camp of “if it ain’t hurting anyone, people should be able to live how they please”, but this was obscenely dangerous for so many reasons
The 2nd coming of Annabel Chong, who was estimated to have done a 251+ man Gang Bang... glad to see someone keeping this alive. It was no better for her than it is for Lily either.
People will do what people do.
Id argue it was in the camp of hurting someone, herself
She's a wannabe influencer😂 she even wants to attempt the same stunt with 1000 men in 24hr next time
Shes crazy@@NovaViper-x7m
I’ve watched this channel for 17 years. You’ve molded my world view. Dude, I was like 11. So thank you for sticking your fingers into the clay in my noggin.
they sold HOT ONES to focus on AI???? why is every company hellbent on making the worst decisions possible????
Cause they know they will still make money
Simply: AI does not demand pay raises, does not need vacation, does not get sick (besides technical issues, if you count that as the Ai being sick)
They sold it to help pay off their debt. They’re moving away from original content i.e things like buzzfeed videos which have higher production costs to focus on AI which can churn out content for cheap. All of this is because the company is in debt
AI's should replace CEOs, NOT Artists.
You saw him do a whole episode of hot ones with DONALD DUCK and didn’t see where they were gonna go with it?!
As someone that worked in digital media for over 6 years, the purchase of Hot Ones is probably the best case scenario for the IP. So many online media brands were scraped by private equity firms until they were a shell of their former selves so being owned by people who are passionate about the brand is the best thing for them
I find it incredibly amusing Buzzfeed sold their own IP to allow it to go independent and free themselves up to be an even hollower shell of a company. It's like the opposite of merger Monday or something
True. Cracked is another example.
About the Lily's story: I don't think she is a victim. It was her idea. She organised it. She is an adult woman that can make her own decisions. She announced that she wants to do it again, but TEN times bigger. Is it a stupid idea? Yes. Do I think she has some psychological issues to do that? Probably. But I'm not in the position to say her anything. It's not my business what she is doing to herself unless it's affecting me personally.
I think someone can be a victim even if they make the wrong decisions.
You are allowed to have an opinion, it's not like you are screaming at her int he face with your words. You already are saying something and then following up with that by saying you can't say sht? What type of cuk mentality must you have? Own the position. Own what you say. You clearly think it's ok to judge because you already are. That's not a big deal, you're ok to do that...
@@jacobwatto9702 Exactly! Let's not forget that promiscuety is a classic trauma response.
@jacobwatto9702 if you shoot yourself in the foot your not a victim. You're an idiot. This is basically that but with a train of 100 dudes. Victims don't typically profit 30k and want to do it again 10x bigger
Not only was it dangerous for Lily, it was dangerous for the men and their future partners as well. This all just feels incredibly stupid.
Do you often infantilise grown ass adult women and men? Leave them be this is the most non news story ever
@Jirangaaa we're not allowed to have opinions?
@@Jirangaaaalso what they said is absolutely true. Just because you’re salty you weren’t one of the hundred doesn’t mean this isn’t news.
@@Jirangaaa how is it infantilism to say someone made a dumb choice? Weird take dude.
@@esmeraldagreengate4354they saw the word dropped on a comment just a bit above and are now practicing it's usage in other threads
She's describing feeling assaulted even though it was 100% her choice, without realizing that's what she's saying. The disassociation is an indication of this
It's not disassociation, it's just a decision she regrets making. It's that simple. It didn't work out like she thought. Live and learn.
@SarcasticData except she plans on doing a 1000 :S
@@SarcasticDataBut she hasn’t. She wants to do it again next year with over 10 times the men. This isn’t learning, this is self harm.
@@SarcasticDatashe regrets it so much that she's going to do it again 10 fold? That girl is just gross
@SarcasticData it's both, what are you talking about? Also she's wants to do it again next year lmfao
First Smosh and now First We Feast, Mythical has been swooping in as Angel investors for TH-cam legacy brands for year now and I'm here for it.
The craziest part is that doc is fully monetized when the topics cover porn, sexual trauma, HIV and sex?
Meanwhile anything even partly “controversial” TH-cam demonetizes for any other creator.
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Cause it's a documentary, duh
OMG imagine seeing you here!
@@yesormaybenoduh. 🤣
Meanwhile Philly says hello you beautiful bastards and gets demonitized
I made the mistake of opening this with my Bluetooth speaker connected. Judging by the look on my mother's face, your first question may have signed my death warrant. 😅
Tell her "it's breaking news"
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God I hope this gets read on the next show haha
never did i think I'd hear phil speak (or attempt) to speak korean on the show, let alone to say BYE FELICIA to the korean president. 10/10 effort, 10/10 amusing
I felt sympathetic for that girl until the story ended with she wants to try again with 1000 men. Whiplash hits hard 😵💫
I feel like she’s trolling to an extent and everyone’s just falling for it lol
She was just crying because it was hard day not because she felt her life was over
Yeah that threw me way off, she seemed regretful & damaged from the experience... then that was mentioned & my sympathy lessened a bit
@@HarryWessex she wasnt looking for sympathy though, people seem to keen to put her in a bracket either a victim or the other extreme but at the end of the day it was her choice and she is allowed to whatever she wants with her her body and her time.
Imagine being guy number 1000. Well any number from 2-1000 really.
Grim.
Why am I not surprised that Buzzfeed is basing their new model off of AI? The final nail in their coffin.
It is self harm on a massive, public scale. She didn’t even understand how HIV is spread, and I think that’s to do with the fact that Gen Z didn’t have to grow up during, or at the latter end of the AIDS epidemic.
I was a child in the 90’s and AIDS was still very much center stage; education was constantly happening. We’d come to know how it’s spread, how to avoid it and that you can’t catch it by hugging or being around someone. But bc younger Millenials and Gen Z didn’t grow up with HIV/AIDS being talked about non-stop and being told how to avoid it, I feel this younger generation behind us, hasn’t lived with seeing people die from it, so they falsely feel it’s no longer dangerous or a high risk.
I’m a Millennial and I’m stunned by her seeming lack of STD awareness and concern for her own future prospects and health. On top of the damage to her mental health, this will be what she’s known for, forever. That’s just facts. I’m sorry for her and I hope she stops.
I felt bad for Lily Phillips until you said she was going to do it again and go for 1,000. That sympathy melted away. Dumb as hell. Then I realized no mentally together person would do that, and the sympathy came back. Girl needs some therapy.
it's more pitty on how she's unlikely to get the help she needs at least for a long time
1,000 is ridiculous and there’s no way its pleasurable, even for someone who may consider themselves a nymphomaniac. If 100 men only allowed 5 minutes, 1000 men means one pump and then they gotta dip. And you need an assembly line 😂
women in that "industry" have incredibly high rates of mental illness, pasts with sexual abuse, and much shorter lifespans than average. i have nothing but sympathy for these women
She said she felt like a prostitute- no she is a prostitute
Nah, you use men as sex objects, you call people prude or close minded for not being okay with this, you profit off lonely men who can't find connection elsewhere, then you use the public for sympathy. Enough is enough.
With Lily’s story, first the documentary was great, very well done. However, I’m concerned she’s not aware of the risk of HPV, which can in some cases lead to throat or ovarian cancer. Even when using protection you can contract HPV quite easily. Your body can fight it off, but equally it can turn to cancer.
Adding to the concern: there's no test for male HPV, most cases are without symptoms (especially in men), and HPV can lie dormant in your body for years.
That said, point of clarification: 80% of human adults have some form of HPV in their lives and it's definitely *not* equally likely to lead to cancer - most often your body fights it off just fine.
She's obviously at a much higher risk than the average human adult and that should be taken seriously but I do think it's important to be clear on the facts.
*cervical cancer not ovarian cancer
Isn't that what the HPV vaccine is for? It counteracts the strains that commonly caused cancer?
Only specific strains turn to cancer
@@sourgreendolly7685 women can be tested for HPV with a viral pap
In regards to the last story and telling yourself things are going to be fine, I honestly think most of us live by those words because if we didn’t then life would be a nightmare.
I also think it’s the little happy moments like sitting down and watching an episode of an anime, playing a video game, or hanging with friends when I have some free time that make me feel that things are alright especially when I consider that in some parts of the world there are people who can’t even do that.
“I don’t know if I’d recommend it” yeah I didn’t have sleep with 100 men on the agenda but thanks for the recommendation 👍
Sure, it was Lily's choice but her team messed up in a major way. They didn't vet any of the men and they didn't intervene when the men broke the rules of the event. Seriously, how is that not considered r*pe? If you hook up with someone and you tell them "I don't want to do x" and then they do that anyway, that is a malicious breach of trust.
When are we going to stop coddling ignorant people? If an adult thinks putting their hand on the hot stove is what they want and they wind up getting burned a little, why does this culture still perpetuate sexist ideals that we need to step in and do something if they're a woman? I know people living almost exclusively on the internet instead of going out and seeing what really happens in the real world is very prevalent right now, but there is definitely something more to it than just that.
Are you seriously asking this question? "I said each guy is limited to 5 minutes, but he took 6, and he didn't pull out when the clock struck 5. I was raped." Do you have any idea how batshit crazy that sounds?
It'd be a different story if she told them to stop specifically when the 5 minute mark was reached and they said "no", and kept going. But that doesn't sound like that's what happened.
Phil, please make your team do some research.
As a 51 year old trans woman, I'm tired of being under fire every day... it's exhausting. So, are they going to ban puberty blockers for cis kids with precocious puberty?
Getting really tired of politicians and businessmen pretending to be doctors while ignoring the real medical professionals advice on how any of what they're banning actually does.
This also Its that same feeling autistic people get when nt people speak for them. Its like dude the people living the experience or having studied it are trying to tell you your wrong why are you ignoring it. Or how men tell other men what woman like. The mental gymnastics.
Did you listen? The information out there shows high risk of harm to children.
@@Teh_Random_Canadianokay harm. What harm? Also so if they are harmful why only ban them for trans kids and not cis kids too?
As a trans girls im not gonna pretend that we really know if puberty blockers are hurmful in the long run, they relatively new, and basically don't have any research. So the suspension of them is reasonable , plus if you reeeealy want to get it you still can, just with higher risk
puberty blockers have been used since the 1970s. There is plenty of research on the effects of the drug on children. There is not much research on whether puberty blockers specifically help with gender dysphoria, because there is a general lack of research on transgender issues. However, it is pretty obvious what the benefits of postponing puberty for a transgender person are in my personal opinion.
It's weird for people to say "the industry has gone too far now" when things like this have been happening for like 50+ years.
Try thousands of years. The sex industry is one of the oldest in human history. We have millennia of trauma and abuse to unpack.
In my experience people who say things like that are trying to imply that an invisible line has been crossed and therefore these things need to be stopped with laws. "The lgbtq has gone too far" has been a very common refrain over the last few years.
yah theres so much worse out there from years and years back
She’s clearly speed running to make money on only fan. It’s her choice
This!!!
Honestly this isn't even the first time Phil has reported on this kinda thing happening.
I don't even understand how people can be shocked about it. The title just made me roll my eyes
It's going to be a long write up, but it's deeply important context for the UK puberty blockers story at 16:35:
The report Streeting cites does not have a 'lack of evidence' issue, the issue is the Cass report dismisses every study that is not 'double-blind' as invalid which is every positive study on the subject.
Upon dismissing these studies, they conclude, 'there's not enough evidence', making the issue seem more contested than it actually is. The reason double-blind studies do not matter in this context, outside major ethical issues that would come with carrying out a double-blind study on puberty blockers: It's physically impossible. If you cannot tell which patient was given which hormone, you shouldn't be a doctor. As chances are, the patient growing breasts might have been given estrogen, the one with a beard etc. etc.
The author of the Cass report actually walked it back due to these very issues, yet the UK government is still citing it, without once addressing a single issue brought up with it by anybody in the medical field. If you take all the information at face value without dismissing valid evidence for invalid reasons, you end up with the obvious conclusion that we keep coming to time and again: Trans healthcare helps trans people.
The bigger story here is that Wes Streeting, a man with no background within practising medicine, is being allowed to dictate medical practices on the basis of either intentional maliciousness, a zealot ant-trans prejudice, or genuine ignorance.
If it were your healthcare or anybody else's, and you were concerned about something and wanted a doctor to look at it, you likely would not be satisfied if this politician, stood at the back of the room, haphazardly trying to advise the doctor, and saying 'trust me' whenever the doctor said he was reading the charts wrong. The fact that any person without a career in practising medicine is allowed to overstep actual doctors and experts shows the state of the UK government.
Keep in mind, as stated, puberty blockers are not banned for minors, just transgender minors. Any minors with growth issues will still have access to them without an issue. Which further highlights the absurdity of the ban. The patterns of medical apathy heavily remind me of the HIV pandemic, and will equally lead to countless avoidable deaths.
Another important note of context for this video in particular: The video editor showed a picture of Tavistock at 22:54 as an example of the 'contested nature' within Europe, but the same organization did a 10-year, peer reviewed, long-term study on puberty blockers and came to the conclusion that it helps almost everybody on there with unusually high numbers for any medical study, let alone this one.
& The European Academy of Paediatrics who are cited in the quote said in the exact same text quoted that "Puberty blockers may be justified in those severely troubled by lack of congruence between gender identity and sex, as delaying puberty and proceeding to transition may be less harmful than the long-term consequences of GnRH-a therapy." - The quote cited was specific, and out of context I think it is unintentionally misleading.
Dude go outside my god. Over here writing a story nobody gonna read. Stop experimenting on kids. Once your 18 have at it.
Puberty blockers are not banned for the people they specifically were created for?
Wow, good one Einstein
Phil was very irresponsible with his coverage of this story. Acting as if the Cass Report had any weight at all is conservative bias!
I'm mostly upset at her team. This was something extremely dangerous and the risks to her safety weren't handled even remotely well enough for the sake of pushing her into it. That's a failure on the part of the people who were supposed to help her.
I agree. In the broader context, this is why I'm for legalizing sex work. This kind of work needs guardrails and safety checks, things you can't implement if it's illegal.
@@dutchvanlwhy? Try reading the studies out of countries with “safe and legal” practices, the rates of ptsd, depression, addiction, self elimination are massive compared to the general population. It’s just a gross industry trading for some material wealth at the cost of your own self. That goes for both men and women.
Anything to take responsibility off her, right?
shes an adult pls shut up
@@nope5657 shush, the adults are talking
That last quote perfectly summed up how i felt... Until you shared that she planned to do it again. Now I don't feel bad, instead I think the one that said it was just tears of disappointment is correct.
she clearly has issues and to me, it seems like a recreation of trauma. Nobody can stop her I guess but its just a show to how disgusting most men and the porn industry is
where do I apply?
I dunno I think she’s just trying to get that clout now and will do it despite her mental health or physical health. I wonder if this is her way of self harm
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Ewww unless youre the 1st guy, thats nasty, did you see the room afterwards, it smelled bad enough to almost make the guy vomit, condoms leaking everywhere, im disappointed in so called men every day @mmafyasco
As a trans person, every day just feels like more and more heartbreak as I see people getting hurt by government intervention. This care is lifesaving, I would not be here today without my gender affirming care. I went from failing out of school and being constantly suicidal before, to now feeling empowered in myself and soon to be graduating college with a 4.0 Gpa. This care is lifesaving and it’s so upsetting to see it being taken away from people who just want to build a better life for themselves
It really must be a confusing life being trans, I mean on the one hand you are a person just wanting to align their mental image with a body that fits. But on the other hand trans people are apparently akin to super villains, skulking around plotting to take down schools,morals,various governments and the military.
How do you go through your day being told you have such powers, by just existing?.
if only it was this simple. the field of gender dysphoria has been highly understudied and you have been an experiment. luckily one with a good result but an experiment non the less.
Not only is what Lily did NOT new in the industry, its actually old hat going back at least 40 years. Either way as long as its done safely i dont care
Yeah I remember watching a Howard stern interview with an actress who tried for 1000 men in one day in the early 2000’s.
Fuck in japan its a badge of honor for some
What if she had sex with kids, would you be OK wirh that?
It wasn’t and that’s the problem
I never heard about it and putting it in the public spotlight is something else
Call me old fashioned but a 100?! And now she wants to do a 1000?!
The Hannah situation is crazy. Imagine doing a greed card scheme for $15,000 and not telling anyone in your family, causing your father to kill himself trying to find you. Imaging doing anything knowing that everyone in your family thinks you went missing and not contacting family at all. If her father's death was a suicide and she was never in danger, I hope she lives with that guilt and it haunts her for the rest of her life. Man might have died thinking his daughter was being trafficked or dead when she was never in danger.
She prob going to jail. They got the evidence for it now and green card marriages are federal crimes
I just hope it's not so cause her poor dad 💀😭😭😭😭
The bans on puberty blockers and "treatment leading to sterilization" rough to discuss. As someone (Canadian) who considers myself trans, I had to jump through hoops to get treatment, including driving 2 hours to Torontos Sick Kids hospital as they were the first place with open slots in their gender clinic. At 12, I was too far along in puberty for any blockers, so they suggested an estrogen based BC. Over 4 years I was put on many different types until I aged out, with all of them coming with horrible side effects. During this time I was diagnosed with Endometriosis and went through similar hoops to get treatment, finally being put on a medication that does sterlize me and helps with both pain and gender dysphoria. 3 years later (delays with covid) I got a complete hysterectomy and have felt 10000% happier since, even though I am now on estrogen instead of testosterone (more sideffects than bc, yay 😅) as I have more control over my presentation.
I hope the hysterectomy didnt cause too many hormonal imbalances 😭 ive heard that happens and drives people “crazy” cuz they feel all over the place mentally sometimes
Do you think you still would have made the same decisions knowing the side effects?
@@QuestionableDudes 100% no on the birth control, but it's likely just a sensitivity to the hormones, but 100000% on the medication and surgery that put me into menopause for 4 years even with the side effects. I got my life back.
i can’t believe youtube tried to hide this from me for 6 minutes
As is always the case when anyone mentions Liz Cheney and moderate in the same sentence, I'd just like to remind everyone that in Trump's first term, she voted with him 93% of the time.
Which makes sense, because Trump is pretty moderate himself.
You gotta touch grass more, look at actual policies and actions versus how much you hate the guy. True right-wingers felt like he wasn't right enough. For example they didn't like that he refused to support a Federal abortion ban. If you take away his stupid tweets and shit-talking during debates and base an analysis purely on policy and actions, he's pretty moderate. So if she voted along-side him, then she'd be pretty moderate too.
Not for the "weak" girl, it is weak giving into such impulses and be so attention seeking to get that bag instead of building character, taking a respectful education and have some morals. Strong women seek to earn their money by contribute to society in a way that dont drag society as a whole down.
Lily deliberately and willingly traumatized herself, ultimately because she "thought" she could handle it. Not realizing the actual danger, or toll such a marathon would exact on her both physically and mentally. She went into this feeling impowered, and came out of it a victim of her own hubris. I honestly feel sorry for her, and for her lack of forethought and critical thinking skills. Whether she believes it or not, she will need intense therapy to just feel "normal" again after all this, assuming that she ever will feel normal again.
I don’t she traded those things for kind of millions of dollars you don’t get that kind of money for free and you certainly don’t get it without hurting people might be others might be yourself
This sorta vomes off victim-blamey. She consented but this happens in normal sex- sometimes you think you want something and don't. Not your fault for not knowing lmao.
But yeah, I think this reaction may be a trauma one...
@@comicsans3537 I'm a proud victim blamer
HOW are there only 4 more shows in 2024??? Time is f'n with me....
Regarding the Lily Phillips situation, I think the main issue here is the seeming lack of preparation and due diligence that went into the event. Even a quick search on Google will show that this is far from the first time someone has done something like this and with higher counts too. It's just that most other times, they tend to have been for a professional shoot (that hopefully had more thorough vetting). And that this time, the person was given a platform that reached mainstream audiences and attention.
Wishing the best for Lily. Fantasies aren't always like what you expect. I hope she can do what she loves and get the help she needs after what this whole thing turned out to be
Lily should have had people helping her. Like a Manager, Bouncers, etc. She should have told them the rules and they should have been the ones telling the guys No or that their time was up, etc. Now she's definitely going to need therapy.
she should have just not done it...its gross its going to have a bad end result regardless of whether she broke down or not but its her choice so idgaf
What about the guys? This idea that it will only harm her when they had an intimate moment possibly with someone they had a para social relationships with, can't imagine that won't harm them.
"I don't know if I recommend it..." had me dying lol
The situation with Lily Philips is very complicated. She’s seen a lot of negative press but if anything I just feel bad. I wouldn’t necessarily see a problem with it if safe guards are in place. At the same time though we shouldn’t act like we know inside her brain based off our own biases, I hope she is okay.
The Lily Philips case just makes me appreciate the safeguards that porn actors have fought for and gained in the professional porn industry. OnlyFans creators don’t have that. Clearly, her “team” doesn’t fully appreciate what supporting her would be like. I don’t really watch porn (not against it if it’s consensual), but even I know that trying to do the proper safeguards in a situation like this as an uninformed sex worker is basically impossible. A sex therapist and other professional porn actors/sex workers should have been involved to not necessarily dissuade her, but help her fully grasp what she was getting into.
I don’t think you understand what only fans has done for the porn industry. It put all the power into the hands of the porn star. No longer do women have to trust sus men who don’t have their best interests in heart. Onlyfans models have all the power if they own their accounts. The safeguards you’re talking about need to be put in place by the onlyfans models. But it’s still a much safer option than traditional porn and gives the power back to the women completely. It’s her choice when it comes to EVERYTHING on onlyfans. You don’t have that kind of control when you show up to someone else’s set.
Also let’s stop the infantilisation of adult women. She knows what she was doing and she wanted to do it. Shes not a victim
@@Jirangaaa Mate, stop replying the same thing on every comment about Lily.
@@Jirangaaa She had no idea what she was getting into, and frankly no one to really warn her. That's what the comment you were responding to was wanting, someone with experience to let her make a fully formed decision.
You can tell she wasn't ready for it just from the before and after interviews.
@@Jirangaaa Never once infantilized her. People who have sex still need to have some discussions/info before their first orgy. Saying that isn’t infantilizing anyone. It’s actually treating them like adults who can think critically and logically based on the information they receive and deserve to have. If she decided to do this after being fully informed of things, then she absolutely could go for it. Consent is important, but so is informed consent and proper aftercare.
Phil, this is a dangerously biased way to discuss the bans on trans affirming healthcare. You mentioned the Cass Study as if it hadn’t been torn to shreds by almost every science-communicator/educator’s channel on YT, let alone the papers published reviewing it into the ground. It’s completely unacceptable to both-sides this subject when we actually have decades of research, we already have the general answers, and further research (done professionally and responsibly) is being done every day because-surprise-turns out the queer community also cares about our queer kids, ffs.
I am sorry if I sound enraged, but this sort of misinformation in both-sidsing such a pivotal topic could contribute to parents of a trans kid in your audience getting the wrong impression and preventing their kid from accessing the care they may need, if it’s even available in their area.
The Cass Review would not have passed my AP science classes in high school, for Pete’s sake! It’s absolute trash, and when you do even a little research or read the report yourself, anyone should be able to identify the problems. But, again, there are tons of videos on here tearing it apart and explaining why things are problems.
Please do a follow up on this after you have some basis of knowledge here or talk to a trans person, at the very least! Why not have Erin Reed on? She’s a fantastic journalist who reports on everything around trans related laws and healthcare, and she’s also trans herself. Please.
I know the team who puts this show together isn’t trying to be ignorant or bigoted or spread misinformation, and the fact that some governments are caving to the machinations of their own Far Right members does confuse things, as does the willingness of a few bigoted doctors to form organizations solely to try to end trans affirming healthcare. It’s gotta be hard to know who to listen to if you don’t have an educational background that taught you to evaluate if a medical study is sound or not. So, just speak to actual experts.
This is such a serious subject. There is so much potential harm, but it’s the trans kids not getting the care they need that’s the danger. There are so many trans people who are harmed by not being able to access/afford medical care as it is, but it’s so much harder on the kids. Remember how upsetting puberty can be anyway? Imagine if you were turning into the “wrong” gender for who you are inside? That would be so horrifying. Especially at that age. These kids sometimes act in desperation and try to do surgery on themselves. Which obviously requires emergency intervention or they can die from the injuries.
No one wants cis kids to somehow get wrapped up in the idea and decide to do something they’ll regret later, and that’s part of why almost never do kids get anything but reversible treatments. Statistically, it’s a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population who ever regret any part of their transition, and there are thousands more kids who are denied the care they need and have much worse outcomes because of it.
Which is totally unnecessary, of course, we have the data, we have *extremely* effective treatments, we have great screening programs that should be used everywhere, the only roadblocks are bigotry and a for-profit healthcare system.
I also came here to critique the coverage, and highlight the issues with taking the Cass report as gospel - so it's not just you raising that in the comments
Wanted to comment to say I concur. The Cass Report is a heavily criticised if not entirely debunked literature review that needs a full throated condemnation anytime it comes up
@@willowtdog6449 lol talk about bided non sense. Giving kids anything is ludicrous and it isn’t fully reversible. Let kids be kids, it’s all a trend. The world is healing now
Is that why the UK and Sweden stopped and even the netherelands considere to stop HRT and PB for minors?
Because of all the "data"?
Fully agree, its really sad to see. a lot of the evidence supplyed for these bans is that other "well, countries are doing them" and thats held up like some gold standard. I have yet to see a single study that says that gender affirming care makes our lives worse, its only ever "all those study's that say your incredibly happy with your care are weak, so we think you should stop".
I don't think even now, I've ever asked myself that Phil
Allowing somebody to self destruct to the point that they sleep with 100 random men back to back is absolutely disgusting. This woman needs a better support system and people that actually care about her. It is very clear this had a terrible impact on her mental health.
I love how sleeping with men is considered a form of self destruction. I completely agree
HEY! SEX POSITIVITY OR ELSE. ARE YOU RACIST?!
It's so funny people were mad at men; if you sell yourself as a product like its fast food and people are hungry and buy it that's fine it's consensual, but most people don't grind for years just to go all in on red for a single combo meal from McDonalds, they want real relationships with real people which is easily available.
You apparently didn’t see that she intends to do 1,000 lol
Yeah shes not backing down in fact shes prepping to do 1000 rn. To blame just men is wrong, cause its not just men its her aswell.
81% of a population being exposed to violence is devastating. No one should have to live like that.
“There’s no friends of the show” is just the realest statement about the internet.
I've had two comments and I'm of three minds about the 100 people situation because I don't know how TH-cam is censoring today,
Lily did decide to do this. If it was her management who put it in her head and they were the driving forces they should have put more checks and balances in, if it was mainly her or a cooperative effort then she failed with basic due diligence about safety because she didn't know how intimately transmitted diseases work,
It sucks that she didn't do this like some other events, because she was not the first woman who decided to have intimacy with loads of men on camera. She may be one of the first who decided to do it behind closed doors for each man individually, there should have been more checks and balances making sure when that time is up someone comes in be like "get the F out" type thing maybe give you a 20-second buffer "if you have to go a little longer go but that's it" but it seems like that wasn't in place so it was just poorly thought out.
Lily didn’t seem okay after at all. I actually felt worried about her. I hope she’s okay and can get what ever help she might need
Putting the whole Lily Philips story before the intro is crazy 😂
I don't know if I can explain it, but just the thought about the Lily Philips situation just stresses me out
Is it just me, or is every single product plug in the PDS always a "GAME CHANGER" now?
I just can't comprehend the Lily situation. It feels so surreal that someone willingly agreed to go through something like that and plans to increase it by 10 fold next year? I genuinely think she needs help, it feels like she's going down a very dangerous path.
There's no way the 1000 men thing is going to happen. The logistics alone would be a nightmare.
Why does she need help for enjoying something you don't understand? Similar to Lily, I have a kink that makes me enjoy the idea of what she did - why is that wrong? Why does that bother you? Who are we hurting? It's incredible how men have no issue with girls going into porn for all the wrong reasons, but when someone does it for the right reason and actually enjoys herself, everyone is immediately alarmed. We can't have that, women genuinely enjoying what we have been enjoying... stop her immediately.
People do crazy things to get noticed and go viral.
@@THEDubbleHelixxsome girl did 960 in a day in Poland. It’s doable, if not reckless and pointless. All to break a record for clout
Youse are acting like this is the first time ever a human has ever put their safety at risk for money and fame.
I remember thinking a few years ago that now was a decent time to trans, sure there were a few people who were fearmongering but it still was looking optimistic long-term. I no longer think this, and am actively fearful for my future.
People have been pretty vocal about waiting for adulthood to start anything so life changing.
Imagine changing your mind on it when you decided at 10.
Similar experience here, as of November my girlfriend and I are planning on moving out of country as soon as we can, out of fear for her health and safety
You should seek mental help if you think you are trans. The time for weirdos is over yall had 4 years of thinking you were normal. NO MORE back to the shadows with you. Seek help whatever you were born as is all you'll ever be. No such thing as 2 spirits or whatever you dorks try to say
I did actually transition for the same reasons and i to an very scared considering how suicidal i was before my transition.
@@speckofdignity2487 byebyeee
Yeah, apart from the obvious logistical issues with Lilly Phillips, which really should have been solved. This feels akin to people seeing 50 Shades and thinking all BDSM is like that. If you engage in any kind of extreme consensual sex you need to be appropriately prepared for the come down, to have comfort and to have support when the "scene" ends. It can bring up emotions, but that doesn't mean it wasn't what you wanted. Even as a professional, immediately asking her questions that require her to validate her decisions is not going to be what you need in that moment.
I'm disgusted with the whole OF situation itself. There's a part of me that really wonders how much she was talked into this. I want to know how much money the people on her team were making.
I'm just a random guy from Alaska and yet I can come up with a million reasons a member of my team should not go through with this. The monetary value is not worth the potential self-harm you could be causing
Youse are seriously overreacting
@@Jirangaaasnd you clearly don’t care if people are exploited or used or sex trafficked at least your mask off
God forbid women make terrible decisions all by themselves....
My partner works in the online adult entertainment industry, and creates exclusively solo content. The reason is that, while it can absolutely make more money to create content with random people, it’s just inherently *SIGNIFICANTLY* less safe. All it takes is one person who fakes an STI test, one person who doesn’t follow the rules, one person who decides to not respect consent, and suddenly you have a very serious and life-altering situation on your hands.
There’s a reason that when large professional studios make content like this, it takes months of planning, logistics, and vetting before the shoot, and very tight security, contracts, and lots of support staff the day of the shoot. It feels like this had much less planning, logistics, and support throughout, and it’s a shame.
Also to the point that the envelope is constantly being pushed in that space, that’s absolutely true. While it’s become much easier for the average person to get into the industry, that’s meant that it becomes MUCH harder to stand out from the crowd. If you’re a performer and not willing to do something, there’s someone else out there who IS (either for enjoyment or from desperation), and there is also always someone willing to do it for less. There is a proverbial “race to the bottom” going on, so I expect stories like this to pop up more and more, especially once you see the financial incentives on the back end to creating more (and more eye-catching) content.
I saw a documentary where stars from a network had a 5 person shoot and despite getting tested every two weeks, someone had contracted HIV in between and ended up giving it to all 5 people. The safety measures are absolutely necessary and even then, they’re not fail proof
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Who knew having s3x with strangers was so risky? Doesn't so s3x "positive".
Ok. Lets be clear. Your partner doesnt work in the adult entertainment industry. Youre just getting cucked.
It's easy to be complacent in the US when violence is growing around the world. But it does feel like only a matter of time before this trend reaches our doorstep. Scary stuff.
Hot Ones sold too late, they probably lost about 100 million in value by selling late
Buzzfeed is the only one losing out
I agree but how much is he personally walking away with? I mean 10 mil would probably be way more than enough for average person if they are spending around 150k a year roughly estimated but this is all opinion based.
Sure… but they belonged to buzzfeed which I had no idea, and frankly am glad that it’s over already!😂😂😂
Now they won’t have to risk being tainted by the horribly heinous racists in buzzfeed!
Hey Phil, trans woman here who just became an adult and was lucky enough to start hormones at 17. If I wasn't able to get the care that I started when I was 16 I genuinely don't think I'd be here today. The years before my transition I was a bored, apathetic, kid that didn't really care much about the future. And although transitioning didn't solve everything, it made me want to care to do more with my life. It gave me hope. It gave me a future that I genuinely cared for and wanted to work towards. I could imagine myself happy. All of these bans just seem to be putting more kids who were like me in danger of never being able to live out happy lives.
Politicians are playing with the lives of trans children and it's sick. These medications have been researched for decades and are completely fine when used for the care of cis kids. But as soon as trans kids want them it becomes something we need to panic over it. This is only exemplified by how the ban in UK doesn't affect cis kids who need them to delay an early puberty
I know some people might say, "Why can't you just wait until you're an adult". And to that I say you don't know the anguish and the horror of having to watch your body slowly slip into something that isn't yours, that you're disgusted by. Watch the one of the primary ways people see you and understand you slowly become the exact opposite of how you see yourself, possibly permanently. To know that your body is changing into something you loathe and there's nothing you can do to change it. I was lucky enough to only experience it for a few months since I was able to get hormones a year after coming out at 16. And I had really supportive family and friends to help me get through the first year. But to go through that experience without the knowledge that there is a way out soon. Especially if that knowledge comes with the fact that I don't have a strong support system and I live in an area that doesn't accept me. It creates a feeling of hopelessness in a lot of kids that can really fuck up their last years of adolescence and first years of adulthood.
I hate to see the younger generations be denied the same opportunity to happiness that I was granted.
Bored pathetic kid that didn't care about the future..... so like a normal kid
The irony of saying government is playing with the lives of children when you're advocating for affirmative care when the doctors themselves are telling us there isn't enough evidence to support it's efficacy.
Glad it worked out for you but there is also many kids who regretted it.
That girl is going to need therapy to process this. Yes, it was her choice, but she put pressure on herself, let things slide, and seeing her after, that’s worrisome.
I recommend that she get tested and get all the help she needs to move forward. I hope I doing so, she rethinks her future plans to beat her record. There’s always going to be another record to break.
I mean if she's already committed to increasing it to 1000 next year, she must have gotten over it.
We'll hear from hear in about 10yrs trying to pretend to have been a victim. I have no sympathy for these people, just like mia khalifa.
When you have any health issue, be it mental or not, banning care without any call for action to quickly research means banning the humans affected. In the US, we need to have the ability to study hormone blockers on children and if it is banned, we will not be able to even research. It’s why THC research is only just now starting to come out in this country…
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see, this is what people who have zero knowledge of this area of care. 1. trans affirming healthcare-- what is being blocked in this bill-- is so many other things other than hormone blockers. it can be speech therapy, or counseling. 2. hormone blockers do exactly that. when a child is pre-pubesent, it pauses hormones so they have the time to go thru all the steps they need to to make sure they want to go that route. never mind that the de-trainsitioning is so rare as to be almost non-existant, hormone blockers are safe, and the least harmful option even if they should decide they don't want to transition. if they decide against it, they simply stop taking the blockers, and they hit puberty just like everyone else. there is LITERALLY NO HARM DONE. i don't know how to say this any clearer. hormone blockers are the best thing you can do for a trans or questioning kid. it's just a pause button that will prevent them from going thru so much pain.
@the_CineCita exactly! "We need more reasearch!" Is something you say as you make plans to do research, not something you should say while banning the recommended and safe treatment already available and in use! They ignore the research and pretend that the weird twisted lies and misleading arguments made by people with no expertise or experience are anywhere near as weighted as the numerous grown adults who have not been harmed by puberty blockers since the 80s, or the doctors who reccomend it because it works
@the_CineCita when children are allowed to grow natural, most detransition. However most children that are placed on puberty blockers progress on to full transition.
It is literally harmful to PURPOSEFULY impair healthy body pa
This is just their stepping stone to take away all health care to trans adults,
Puberty blockers are literally used to protect fertility during chemo. It is so frustrating hearing people say it hurts fertility.
I mean puberty blockers alone might not cause the issue, but that is not all that is done. Puberty blockers along with estrogen or testosterone could impact your fertility as a man or woman. The problem is that it is done to children who are not deemed adult enough to drink or drive yet are able to decide on such an life altering decision as hormone therapy with puberty blockers. Especially as we are seeing more and more that trans people with regret trying to de-transition are having a lot of difficulties doing so because of the treatment.
I think what sucks is, while she's perfectly within her right to choose to do what she did, it's super damaging to other workers in her own industry what she did. Like if people were stigmatizing the industry before, a lot of them sure are after this. The comments she's getting are a clear example of it. And yeah, while I am pro-s*x work, I do think what she did could constitute self-harm, or at the very least self-endangerment. I'm not saying she should be arrested or anything crazy like that, but she definitely should seek some kind of help. I also don't buy the whole "s*xual assault" nonsense about it. She gave them 5 minutes and some went over, yes, but clearly she was flexible about it and this type of situation is unprecedented to begin with. If they were there to harm her, they would've done so.
Maybe, but I would bet that in 2-3 Weeks no one remembers the Name or the documentary anymore
Yeah I think that if you have a negative view of sex industry then this would satisfy all your points, but agreed, she had an opportunity to take more control of the situation, if only surrounding stds. But doing it all in one day is another issue with the whole thing. It's just not healthy to have sex with 100 different, untested people in one day, that's literally not controversial, that's textbook risky behavior. Medically. But it's a medical risk she's allowed to make, but then she needs legal representation who is there to keep her and other participants safe before, during, and after a stunt like this.
how is this unprecedented? there are thousands of similar examples from just this month. you could literally join in this in Times Square in the 70’s. and how is this more dangerous than 100 different times? and how does it stigmatize the industry at all? very overblown response to nothing big or new
The norm of pardoning and commuting sentences for a new leader is quite interesting for me as someone from the UK because I feel like my country would have a melt down from doing such a thing. We are so obsessed with fearmongering and usually I get to point to the US and say "thank goodness we're not doing that" but on this occaision I feel kind of envious that our own leadership cannot actually take a look at who is imprisoned for the wrong reasons and do the right thing.
The problem with that is our politicians would absolutely use that power for the wrong reasons on their influential friends and rich colleagues
@@conormurphy4328I don't know about that. When you consider the way politicians in the UK can so easily be pushed to resign. It is also something you could legislate against.
The lily situation is so infuriating. As a SWer it’s disheartening. No one judges the men that that filmed with her, but they show her as an infantized little women that can’t handle sex work.
All I can say for the Lily Philips story is just why? She can do whatever she wants but what was the point in sleeping with 100 men and NOW wanting to sleep with a thousand men? Just to be a record seems too dangerous because she already had issues with 100 men. Just thinking on what would happen with a thousand men to me seems like it could go much worse.
Disappointed by too many people the past few decades on TH-cam is so true 😭
Regarding your story about Lilly and the 100 men, the lack of empathy towards this woman shows how close to the sociopathic cliff our society has come. With comments like "She's a grown woman who made a choice," etc., people make stupid choices all the time! Just look at some of mankind's history. And a lot of those mistakes were made by people who were supposed to be clear thinking.
Any woman choosing to sleep with 100 men in a day, no less, is clearly going through some type of mental distress and is trying to hurt herself. I find it particularly disturbing that she was laser focused on whether or not the men enjoyed themselves even though she was experiencing her own discomfort! What's worse is she had a "team" so focused on the documentary that her humanity was discounted! Shame on them. This woman needs therapy. Shame on us for being a society that allows this type of sensationalized "documentary" and making this a normal thing!
Banning an existing treatment while you "gather evidence" is cruel.
They definitely should have continued giving thalidomide to pregnant women! Why stop just to study if its causing harm? It’s an existing treatment…it stops nausea, and it’s cruel to stop using it to “gather evidence.”
How? What if they find it causes issues and they find a better alternative? Seems weird to make it negative when things like this happen often
They did stuff like this during the AIDs crisis in the 80s. Watch Dallas Buyers Club that’s based on a true story. The cruelty is the point. It’s their bodies. They can choose for themselves.
@@GuineaParentsbecause it’s in bad faith. They wouldn’t ban guns before finding evidence.
Puberty blockers and hormones are harm mitigation. It takes a lot of counseling and informed consent to get on them as a minor. The whole purpose of harm mitigation is that even if there are risks, they are still lower danger than the harm that would happen otherwise. Think of it like surgery. Surgery is not safe. There are plenty of people that die or get permanent damage from surgeries. The reason we do surgeries is the outcomes are almost always better after surgery than otherwise.@@GuineaParents
Just wanted to say Phil is looking really good. like long time fan from the sourcefed days, and he looks younger than back then. Eating well and working out definitely paying off especially when it helps with your long time neck pain haven’t seen it in a thumbnail in a long time! 😂
1) I feel bad for Lily. I agree that she could have some mental health problems, that have probably been made worse by the decision to go through with this. I do not know why she would want to try it again after crying after the first experience. I hope that the people around her can advise her better, her physical and mental health matter and her life is more important than whatever is driving her towards making such obviously poor decisions.
2) Regarding the issue of offering hormone blockers to children, it is essential that we have all the data before administering things that could be life-changing to children. As a parent, it feels like pushing this so hard on our children without considering their health is some kind of grooming. Offer mental health treatment for children going through this, but for now, with the limited data we have, allow the children to make these decisions when they are adults. We don't allow children to vote, drink, or smoke, but then we expect them to make potentially lifelong altering decisions when they are still young.
3) It is unfortunate that there are so many conflict-related tragedies in the world today when we should have learnt from past mistakes, and more regretable is the fact that some conflicts such as the Anglophone crisis in Cameroon that have been going on for years and no one seems to be talking about it.
In terms of the Lily Phillips situation, i feel like every opinion that has come from it in one way or another is a correct evaluation. It is simple situation on paper that was excecuted brashly by everyone involved.
Phil eluded to a break, even if it’s short one I went like “noooo”
But you deserve it Phil, thanks for the shows!
When it comes to Hannah Kobayashi, I can understand waiting for things to flush out and answers to be found. But I'm of the opinion that the public is owed some answers for 2 reasons: her father is no longer with us, and the amount of tax payer money spent on what could very well been misunderstood and intentional life choice. I'm at a loss how to interpret the fathers passing, for this.
Phil always happens to love the products he sponsors, it’s a 100% success rate, so lucky !
Well he’s sponsored Betterhelp and Robinhood which later he stopped doing because of controversies
Well, that Hot Ones story was quite a roller coaster. First you had me worried by mentioning it, then I was happy to see them achieving greater success, and then finally you reminded how much Buzzfeed otherwise sucks.
4:21 as someone who has and sometimes still does sleep with men as a form of self harm this is incredibly real. It hurts to see others call her disgusting when you really don’t understand the true reasons behind why someone may do this. It’s ESPECIALLY notable when she mentions disassociation. You disappeared into your mind and see yourself as nothing but an object. It’s not disgusting, it’s heartbreaking.
"Even though I speak for a living, I can't convince anyone of anything." Vessi isn't going to like hearing that. 🤣
“Do me a flavor”. lol 6:37
My heart dropped when i saw the FirstWeFeast sell story. Then it came back to life when i saw it wasn't bought by some random billionaires but by the people who actually care and literally made the company what it is today
Sex work is work. Was what she did risky? Yes. This is why these platforms need regulation and compulsory medical education and checks to ensure events like this are safe and boundaries kept for everyone involved. But it truly isnt any different to any daredevil or escape artist stunt. If sex work stigma is removed then proper training and safeguards can more easily be put in place just like a stunt actor.
It feels very frustrating to me that the people who decide whether or not trans people get care are politicians and judges who don't have the education that doctors do. Like the Hipocratic Oath says to first do no harm, so doctors aren't going to do anything that they think will harm a patient. These laws and rulings are so dehumanizing to trans people for no reason other than cruelty.
If you want to see how they run as politicians, just look at Thailand.
Children have too go threw puberty. that's natures process. if they turn 18 and they decide so they can as they're legally teenage adults. if you fuck with nature it fucks back resulting in bodily malfunctions in many area's.
Y'all forgot it was doctors who also help contribute to the opiod epidemic or something?