Sx 4 I think it was , a buddy's cousin had one. It's fuzzy but I remember the decal down on the rocker and the extra height to get in. Haha you know how it is , a buddy's cousins sisters boyfriends father's mother in law said it was real 🤣🤣🤣
Wow, the Renaults were AMC's only chance at a modern car as the Eagle/Concord/Spirit all are basically updates of the AMC Hornet that I believe came out in 1970.
It's amazing how much more appealing Jeep's 1983 lineup is compared to their 2015 lineup. Don't get me wrong, the current Grand Cherokee is a great vehicle, and the current Wrangler is good, but the old vehicles are just so much more appealing.
Seriously? The cars/trucks from the early 80's were all steaming piles of crap! As someone that was of driving age back then, I remember being absolutely disgusted with the garbage that was being offered to consumers... Especially by American car companies. It was a terrible time to be a car enthusiast. It is the complete opposite today, since quality, variety, horsepower, and capability has never been greater than now. Today is the greatest time to be a car enthusiast!! So, carful what you wish for!
To think if it weren't for AMC our beloved jeeps would have gone out of style. As a owner of a Spirt and Jeeps I can say the 258 motor is one of the best built motor ever.400k miles is nothing to see on one of them motors and still running strong. As ws the little Iron duke 4cyl mad by another company now gone (Pontiac). Strange how the quality car company's went and the umm crap ones lived? make a good reliable car that will last for years and years and put yourself out of business AMC is also responsible for creating the SUV market,by introducing the 4x4 eagle.The cars were very well built and didn't suffer the quick rusting many other brands had. Sad to see them gone. I would buy the entire range of eagles and jeeps from 1983 and a Spirt,if I had the place to keep them.
I'm sorry, but that 83 Alliance is absolutely hideous. It looked like it was going to flip over when it took a turn. A smoking badass 55HP engine, I think some lawnmowers today have that much.
My dad a CJ5 inline-6. Forgot what year it was, but he loved it. It can withstand up to 2 feet of water. Drove it until the wheels fell off... literally, LOL. He then bought a 1986 Jeep Cherokee, and still has it to this day. Refurbished, but not restored.
I've ridden in a Scrambler, one of my friends in high school had an '82 model. This was on March 5, 2010, so both of us were born several years after AMC folded and anything AMC-built was pretty rare by then. That Scrambler was pretty well-known around the school. There was another guy with a '50 Studebaker there, I got to ride in that one quite a few times in 2009-2010 and it was another of the school's coolest cars. Both of those people graduated a year ahead of me, I don't remember anything quite so awesome in my graduating class. I myself drove... nothing and had no license. I upgraded from nothing to an '08 Honda Accord when I was 19, not that cool but... FREEDOM! October 14, 2020 4:28 am
Thy were junk cars when i pulled wrenches for a living i wroked on lots of them but thy had some neat tech for its day and kind fun to drive but still junk always broke down all the time
55 HP? Wow. My 1977 Celica I had as a college student old back then had 90 HP and it was adequate, but no barn burner. I can't imagine so little power.
Try a diesel VW of the era. 1.6 had 52hp and the turbodiesel had 68. Pretty slow , but can be fixed with proper gearing and pump tuning. Knocked my non turbo from a 14ish second 0-60 down to 10. No rocket but better than it was.
As a youth, my friends ad I would make jokes about "le car" we saw around town. Whoever thought it was a good idea to put that on the side, i thank you for countless punchlines spoken in bad french accents by elementary school kids.
True as if we Americans are so dumb that we didn't know it was a car that they had to put Le the French word for The in front of the word English word car. And the Renault Fuego, there was a soda called Fuego that came out at that time too. How many people drank a Fuego while driving their Fuego?
AHAHAH car of the year. They really made a mistake because this was gone a year later. The convertible is okay but honestly. Compare this to a Cadillac Eldorado from that year.
Its so extrange that in every country exepct us, the renault 9/11 and 18 were good and reliable cars The jeeps always were nice looking bad ass 4x4 vehicles! The awd eagle was a nice concept And what an ugly and outdated suv was the grand wagon/wagoneer, it looks like a 60's car, the 4runner was in those years!!
Building quality may have been bad and the fuel injection was worse meanwhile in other countries they were built like rocks and they used a carburetor plus they didn't have to be restricted due to emissions.
Good cars. Just too bad the alliance wasnt reliable. Ive always liked the looks even today. My sister had one back then, was a nice car & VERY good on fuel. Ride was very nice.
I just feel like if AMC was able to bridge the gap a few more years to get to the SUV craze of the early 90s that Jeep might have saved them and gave them a legit shot at supplanting Chrysler as #3.
that scrambler and honcho look so freaking bad ass...i can picture them with a upgrade suspension and may be a different set of rims and tires off road of course!!
@@realazduffman I always assumed that they checked the actual level. That's interesting. In that case, I agree that there should be a proper oil level gauge on all cars.
My dad had an '83 CJ-5 with the 2.5 4cyl. He put 2 engines in it, and countless clutches in all the years he owned it... It was actually pretty reliable, and he drove it many years, but unfortunately, Ohio winters finally took its toll on it.
Wouldn't mind finding a Spirit from that era. However, I'd really love to know what happened to the headquarters building. I wonder if it's still standing.
i know a few people who bought Alliances when they were new and the general consensus was that while reliability wasn't great they were surprisingly comfortable and quiet for a small car
When AMC got doing business with Renault that was the beginning of the end for them nobody wants French cars , they are unreliable and unattractive, I wish I AMC was still around that's where a lot of great companies went to to keep from going out of business Packard ,Hudson Kaiser, Nash and some other Great American car brands ran out of business by The Big Three, they all teamed together to stay in the game,,,AMC truly was American Motors
I've always believed that the Fuego is the ugliest sports car in history. That oversize bubble silhouette on a sports car looks as nauseating & out of place as a guy in a clown suit at a funeral
I just wish American Motors had placed a V-6 Engine in the SX-4, calling it the SX-6, or even better than that would be a V-8 therefore calling it the SX-8.
My dad used to work at the Kenosha plant making the same vehicle...lots of stories! My grandmother used to have an Alliance sedan. She liked it for the most part! Now she drives an Toyota Camry.
i had an 86 renault alliance when i was 16. got astonishingly good fuel economy. i dont know the specs but we rode around all day for $3. was slow and didnt handle well and parts hard to find. but it was an experience
I can't recall ever seeing a Renault on the streets here in the states. I still see AMCs and old wagoneers periodically but I don't think I've ever seen a LeCar or an alliance or any Renault for that matter on the road here.
When I was small, both the LeCar and the Alliance/Encore were pretty popular where I live. I haven't seen an example of either in years though. One of my Dad's first cars was a Renault 12 wagon which he regrets selling to this day.
These old cars from all manufacturers are most entertaining on the slalom and I think everyone at some point used that GM 2.5 in at least one of their models. Hell I had 3 cars with the old "iron duke"
I mean no disrespect, but wouldn't a better name for THESE segments be Past Previews?!!!! Oh.........& I am SO PUMPED that you are posting these DNCP's in addition to the road tests!!!!!
Outside of the Concord 4 door and the Large Renault; which didn't seem to sell well.....AMC had a pretty progressive lineup for 1983. It s a shame quality and other issues relating to AMC history ultimately led them to merge with Chrysler in 1987. I remember a dealer near me even having few gray market R5 Turbos on the lot around this time. It seemed LeCars and Alliances were everywhere.......until things started breaking and the repair bills were astronomical. The Eagle 4x4 wagon was considered pretty upscale back then.
Just Here For The TH-cam To me it sounded great, it was economical, and served its purpose well. The Duke has a bad reputation it doesn't deserve in my opinion.
Dburger62 To each their own, we all have an opinion. Sorry if I offended you. On the other hand, I love me the sound of an early Chevy 2.8 V6 even with the bad rep it has.
+Skyline Fever Subaru made AWD wagons. i think there was a couple of other forign brands "russian mostly" that did 4x4 cars. but yeah Eagle may very well be the first 4x4 Sedan.
Not only that they used the 2.8 liter GM V-6 in the XJ series in 1984-86. My neighbor had a XJ Wagonneer and an S-10 Blazer from 1986 and they both had the same engine.
AMC Eagle = Original Crossover! AMC was over 30 years ahead of their time.
Sx 4 I think it was , a buddy's cousin had one.
It's fuzzy but I remember the decal down on the rocker and the extra height to get in.
Haha you know how it is , a buddy's cousins sisters boyfriends father's mother in law said it was real 🤣🤣🤣
They were for sure. But let's be honest, AMC wasn't exactly known for reliable vehicles. So many lemons.
@@quincee3376 they weren't any less reliable than anything else the big 3 made at the time
This is sad, AMC in its death rattle.
Wow, the Renaults were AMC's only chance at a modern car as the Eagle/Concord/Spirit all are basically updates of the AMC Hornet that I believe came out in 1970.
I ACTUALLY saw one of those Renault Alliances driving around the other day. I was extremely surprised someone was able to keep it running this long.
One of the instructors at my local tech college has one, he keeps it alive as an example of just how good he is at fixing things! Brags about it!
It's amazing how much more appealing Jeep's 1983 lineup is compared to their 2015 lineup. Don't get me wrong, the current Grand Cherokee is a great vehicle, and the current Wrangler is good, but the old vehicles are just so much more appealing.
+Adam Baldwin plus they had pickup trucks!
The end of the jeep gold era, now days the only off road worthy jeep is the wrangler.
you could work on them
Seriously? The cars/trucks from the early 80's were all steaming piles of crap! As someone that was of driving age back then, I remember being absolutely disgusted with the garbage that was being offered to consumers... Especially by American car companies. It was a terrible time to be a car enthusiast.
It is the complete opposite today, since quality, variety, horsepower, and capability has never been greater than now. Today is the greatest time to be a car enthusiast!! So, carful what you wish for!
and the cherokee was a fun rwd or 4x4 suv but now its a boring fwd crossover
"the marriage is going well." Like Bonnie and Clyde's marriage went well.
Bonnie and Clyde's marriage went very well. Hard to find a wife that will do crime with you, go on the run with you, and even get gunned down with you
Scrambler mini truck looks awesome.
AMC, inventor of the crossover SUV.
AMC, inventors of incredibly ugly cars.
omg, the Alliance was one of THE biggest POS ever...
+PETER MAINWALD And also named Car & Driver's "Car of The Year Award" in 1983! It shows how worthless those awards really are..
Motor trend.
Also it was no worse than any other american pos fro, the day
To think if it weren't for AMC our beloved jeeps would have gone out of style. As a owner of a Spirt and Jeeps I can say the 258 motor is one of the best built motor ever.400k miles is nothing to see on one of them motors and still running strong. As ws the little Iron duke 4cyl mad by another company now gone (Pontiac). Strange how the quality car company's went and the umm crap ones lived? make a good reliable car that will last for years and years and put yourself out of business
AMC is also responsible for creating the SUV market,by introducing the 4x4 eagle.The cars were very well built and didn't suffer the quick rusting many other brands had. Sad to see them gone. I would buy the entire range of eagles and jeeps from 1983 and a Spirt,if I had the place to keep them.
Whats the IHC Scout and Travelall then? both were 4x4 both earlier than AMC
Poor AMC. It was really a rad company in its day.
1:41 gas fill door swinging open lol
bob loblaw good eye, that's hilarious!
👋😆👍i never noticed it! Until you mentioned it! Holy crap! Lmfao! You have a good eye!👀
Check out the "XJ" @4:56 where the entire driver's door looks like it's about to fall off
you really have an amc eagle eye
I really dig those AMC 4WD cars. Always have.
Love these retro reviews. Keep them coming!!
Keyless entry in 1983! I hadn't heard of such a thing until about 1990.
Ford had keyless entry in 1980. I had a 1981 Ford Thunderbird that had it.
@@lvsqcsldoesn’t that mean they had it in 81 then?
I loved that Honcho blue pick up
I'm sorry, but that 83 Alliance is absolutely hideous. It looked like it was going to flip over when it took a turn. A smoking badass 55HP engine, I think some lawnmowers today have that much.
It was all about the mileage , still couldn't beat a diesel VW back then though they got 40 in town usually.
HAHA look at that Renault Alliance gas door flying open at 1:41!
I love the Honcho!
GHOSTJERKER
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My dad had a honcho with levi's Jeans Cover seating
I came here for the Jeeps.
Bear Grylls same
@@ryanwilliams4489 same
My dad a CJ5 inline-6. Forgot what year it was, but he loved it. It can withstand up to 2 feet of water. Drove it until the wheels fell off... literally, LOL.
He then bought a 1986 Jeep Cherokee, and still has it to this day. Refurbished, but not restored.
i love cars AMC, Jeep Wrangler, CJ, Wagoneer, Grand Wagoneer, Comanche and Cherokee 1985-1988
I'd love a scrambler
I learned how to drive manual in a Alliance. Thanks big sister for teaching me.
some good looking jeeps here :D, if only vehicles could stay young and rust free
I definitely like this 83 lineup better than today's cookie cutter lineup
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I've ridden in a Scrambler, one of my friends in high school had an '82 model. This was on March 5, 2010, so both of us were born several years after AMC folded and anything AMC-built was pretty rare by then. That Scrambler was pretty well-known around the school. There was another guy with a '50 Studebaker there, I got to ride in that one quite a few times in 2009-2010 and it was another of the school's coolest cars. Both of those people graduated a year ahead of me, I don't remember anything quite so awesome in my graduating class. I myself drove... nothing and had no license. I upgraded from nothing to an '08 Honda Accord when I was 19, not that cool but... FREEDOM!
October 14, 2020 4:28 am
Damn jeep made some sexy pickups.
They should make a 2 door Gladiator that looks like the Scrambler
Thy were junk cars when i pulled wrenches for a living i wroked on lots of them but thy had some neat tech for its day and kind fun to drive but still junk always broke down all the time
Wow. I didn't even know we got the Fuego here.
55 HP? Wow. My 1977 Celica I had as a college student old back then had 90 HP and it was adequate, but no barn burner. I can't imagine so little power.
Try a diesel VW of the era.
1.6 had 52hp and the turbodiesel had 68.
Pretty slow , but can be fixed with proper gearing and pump tuning.
Knocked my non turbo from a 14ish second 0-60 down to 10.
No rocket but better than it was.
Why is the engine sound effect at the very end of the video so goddamn loud???
It's way louder than the video
JEEP SCRAMBLER
It's the American Leyland, ahem, Alliance
As a youth, my friends ad I would make jokes about "le car" we saw around town. Whoever thought it was a good idea to put that on the side, i thank you for countless punchlines spoken in bad french accents by elementary school kids.
True as if we Americans are so dumb that we didn't know it was a car that they had to put Le the French word for The in front of the word English word car.
And the Renault Fuego, there was a soda called Fuego that came out at that time too. How many people drank a Fuego while driving their Fuego?
Kenosha Wisconsin's finest in '83.. good stuff..
that honcho is freakin gnarly!!!
Is that CW Mcall cj5 and 4wd in the back ground?
AHAHAH car of the year. They really made a mistake because this was gone a year later. The convertible is okay but honestly. Compare this to a Cadillac Eldorado from that year.
OH how could I forget the Fuego!!!!!
Its so extrange that in every country exepct us, the renault 9/11 and 18 were good and reliable cars
The jeeps always were nice looking bad ass 4x4 vehicles!
The awd eagle was a nice concept
And what an ugly and outdated suv was the grand wagon/wagoneer, it looks like a 60's car, the 4runner was in those years!!
Building quality may have been bad and the fuel injection was worse meanwhile in other countries they were built like rocks and they used a carburetor plus they didn't have to be restricted due to emissions.
It’s a little known fact that all designers at AMC were blind.
Good cars. Just too bad the alliance wasnt reliable. Ive always liked the looks even today. My sister had one back then, was a nice car & VERY good on fuel. Ride was very nice.
I just feel like if AMC was able to bridge the gap a few more years to get to the SUV craze of the early 90s that Jeep might have saved them and gave them a legit shot at supplanting Chrysler as #3.
Never seen a Honcho before
LOL, it was a package on the Jeep trucks, kind of like an XLT, or Lariet package in the Ford F-Series Pickups today.
Jeep needs to bring back the honcho and the comanche.
that scrambler and honcho look so freaking bad ass...i can picture them with a upgrade suspension and may be a different set of rims and tires off road of course!!
I can't even imagine what that Wagoneer would be worth today.
Check Bring A Trailer to see prices.
At least 5 or 6 hundred dollars.
Any test on the Renault Alliance GTA? Or the Alpine A310?
Never understood why the oil level interior readout never took off more.
Current cars have an oil life percentage.
@@thearousedeunuch All that does is measure the mileage and give you a percent until oil change. It is not "analyzing" the oil.
@@realazduffman I always assumed that they checked the actual level. That's interesting.
In that case, I agree that there should be a proper oil level gauge on all cars.
My dad had an '83 CJ-5 with the 2.5 4cyl. He put 2 engines in it, and countless clutches in all the years he owned it... It was actually pretty reliable, and he drove it many years, but unfortunately, Ohio winters finally took its toll on it.
Wouldn't mind finding a Spirit from that era. However, I'd really love to know what happened to the headquarters building. I wonder if it's still standing.
+hellhound47bravo3 I was wondering that, too.
@@robneville5728 It is! It's located in Southfield, Michigan and it was renovated in 2001.
hi amc workers of kenosha me too
lol my quad has 77 hp...
Scrambler's were cool.
i know a few people who bought Alliances when they were new and the general consensus was that while reliability wasn't great they were surprisingly comfortable and quiet for a small car
When AMC got doing business with Renault that was the beginning of the end for them nobody wants French cars , they are unreliable and unattractive, I wish I AMC was still around that's where a lot of great companies went to to keep from going out of business Packard ,Hudson Kaiser, Nash and some other Great American car brands ran out of business by The Big Three, they all teamed together to stay in the game,,,AMC truly was American Motors
I've always believed that the Fuego is the ugliest sports car in history. That oversize bubble silhouette on a sports car looks as nauseating & out of place as a guy in a clown suit at a funeral
I just wish American Motors had placed a V-6 Engine in the SX-4, calling it the SX-6, or even better than that would be a V-8 therefore calling it the SX-8.
Gimmie that Cherokee or Wagoneer!
that honcho is freakin gnarly!!!
Pt.2 keep them coming, the retro review are awesome Thanks so much. I think you should do, the big three from Detroit.
Those early XJ pictures hit different. Looks like an XJ Cherokee from the '70s.
What sexy CJ renegades
I miss 80's cars. Modern vehicles are disposable appliances without a soul.
4:58 either the doors not shut all the way or the pre-production truck has a wicked door hap
55Hp? LOL
My dad used to work at the Kenosha plant making the same vehicle...lots of stories! My grandmother used to have an Alliance sedan. She liked it for the most part! Now she drives an Toyota Camry.
A few girls at my high school had a Fuego in the 80s... not bad looking
That Alliance -- what a hunk of junk. "French body roll". - lol
i had an 86 renault alliance when i was 16. got astonishingly good fuel economy. i dont know the specs but we rode around all day for $3. was slow and didnt handle well and parts hard to find. but it was an experience
That body roll. Holy cow, but it must have been so so smooth in a straight line haha!
And wow. "Le Car"
"The Car"
Amazing.
Must have been where Ferrari got the inspiration for the Ferrari TheFerrari (LaFerrari) lol
Le Car is not even proper French.
@@kevinpatrickmacnutt No it isn't. We called it Franglais in French class.
I can't recall ever seeing a Renault on the streets here in the states. I still see AMCs and old wagoneers periodically but I don't think I've ever seen a LeCar or an alliance or any Renault for that matter on the road here.
When I was small, both the LeCar and the Alliance/Encore were pretty popular where I live. I haven't seen an example of either in years though. One of my Dad's first cars was a Renault 12 wagon which he regrets selling to this day.
Bankrupt 4 years after this aired. You see why in this video.
I would love to own an old CJ7 or a Scrambler
55 horsepower is blistering speed
What a shame to praise Renault as AMC in America!
These old cars from all manufacturers are most entertaining on the slalom and I think everyone at some point used that GM 2.5 in at least one of their models. Hell I had 3 cars with the old "iron duke"
I mean no disrespect, but wouldn't a better name for THESE segments be Past Previews?!!!! Oh.........& I am SO PUMPED that you are posting these DNCP's in addition to the road tests!!!!!
Cars had style didn't look all the same.
one thing i have to say ONLY OLD JEEPS ARE REAL JEEPS
Outside of the Concord 4 door and the Large Renault; which didn't seem to sell well.....AMC had a pretty progressive lineup for 1983. It s a shame quality and other issues relating to AMC history ultimately led them to merge with Chrysler in 1987. I remember a dealer near me even having few gray market R5 Turbos on the lot around this time. It seemed LeCars and Alliances were everywhere.......until things started breaking and the repair bills were astronomical. The Eagle 4x4 wagon was considered pretty upscale back then.
With exception to the France only Renault Fuego, that Renault Alliance was the first car to ever have remote keyless entry.
I think that is correct. Ford had keyless entry, but, it wasn't REMOTE keyless entry. They had a keypad.
Now THESE where great cars!
The Eagles had the Iron Duke? Didn't know that.
Can't imagine why they used it. The iron duke was a well known piece of garbage.
Very reliable.
Dburger62 That's about it though. The Duke was rough, gutless, and severely outdated even when it was new.
Just Here For The TH-cam To me it sounded great, it was economical, and served its purpose well. The Duke has a bad reputation it doesn't deserve in my opinion.
Dburger62 To each their own, we all have an opinion. Sorry if I offended you. On the other hand, I love me the sound of an early Chevy 2.8 V6 even with the bad rep it has.
love the le car and the fuego! =)
Too bad we just got the le car. Over in europe they got a hot hatch version.
Selec - Trac is pretty awesome.
I had one back in the day.. Had a lot of trouble with mine.. Wish I would of kept it now
I've never heard of the Honcho and I've never seen this model of Cherokee before. Interesting.
Those old Jeep trucks rusted out like no other.
Thats one fugly car
I have an 1983 CJ7 and a 1983 CJ8. Great year.
So good. Volt meter. Mmmmm...
Was AMC the first to make an AWD sedan? I can't think of another AWD sedan made in the 1970s.
+Skyline Fever Subaru made AWD wagons. i think there was a couple of other forign brands "russian mostly" that did 4x4 cars.
but yeah Eagle may very well be the first 4x4 Sedan.
Ohh to have that Cherokee! Why don't the manufacturers realize there are more than a few of us that want a 2 door and not a 4 door SUV!
Did amc become jeep?
The cradle/birthplace of my XJ.
All shit boxes!
Renault...? AMC...?
I still can't believe AMC used the GM 2.5 "Iron Duke" 4 cylinder. You can't kill those very easily
Not only that they used the 2.8 liter GM V-6 in the XJ series in 1984-86. My neighbor had a XJ Wagonneer and an S-10 Blazer from 1986 and they both had the same engine.
Damn those jeep are 🔥🔥🔥
that music they play for the jeeps..... I WANT THAT MP3!!!!
😂
Dat Honcho!
LeCar? LeCrap :D