Ralph Ellis & Michael Tsarion Have A Scholarly Conversation | Exclusive
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- An Esoteric Thoughts exclusive - a “meeting of minds” between Ralph Ellis and Michael Tsarion. In a freestyle format they discuss rare history that heavily influenced the Bible formation and biblical stories, along astrotheology and other esoteric mysteries.
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I love the fact that Ralph unabashedly interacts and engages with his TH-cam trolls and stands his ground. He's got some hefty balls of steel. Most people can't take the heat.
I found them useful, because they often raise valid questions and test my ability to answer them. The trolls I hate are those who refuse to explain their disagreements or opposition; and those who create needless divisions, just for the sake of it.
People like Aaron Adair, who has raised his head once again, who said I was completely wrong because I said that there had been 2,000 years of Christianity. Umm, sorry Adair, but who has not used a mathematical rounding in their lives before! (Plus, many Christian denomination use the birth of Jesus as the founding if Christianity.)
R
Would love Ralph to read The Lost Book of ENKI, - presented by Zecharia Sitchin. - To take one step further back into the history - before history. LOVE RALPH'S WORK . Would love to see his perspective on that. Cheers.
Too bad Ralph can't publish in a peer review & show some qualification. He pulls the "knows better than other" grift with climate change too.
@@Stupidityindex I have confidence that Ralph will submit his research for peer review whenever given the opportunity. I am waiting for his work to appear in Dr. Price's 'Journal for higher criticism' hopefully in the next issue. So you're already wrong on assuming that he doesn't want his work critiqued out of fear. Good luck to anyone trying to prove anything vital to his work definitively wrong without employing some type of BS fallacy. 😉
Esoteric knows exactly what he is doing getting these two on well done
Goodness me, the world needs more of these conversations. Top work for putting it together.
Ralph Ellis and Michael Tsarion have done so much for my personal growth and my overall view of the world I wouldn’t know where to begin to start thanking them. I feel like I’ve woken from a bad dream with fresh eyes and a renewed spirit.
Instantly clicked on the thumbs up button before I even started watching
Could listen to these two talk all day. Thank you 🙏
This content on this channel just gets better & better
It's been far too long since you gentlemen have had a chat. Please get together with more regularity! Fascinating as always!
Thank you!
Lisa
Love these 2 guys! Thank you for putting this presentation together 🔥🧙♂️⚔
2 of my most favorite authors and speakers together!! Was soooo delighted to see this vid. Fell in love with Michael's work years ago and then discovered Ralph this year. Thanks to these fine men for their decades of study and their outstanding work in helping to give more clarity to this crazy effing world.
These men are the kind of man I long for in a partner!
Me too!!!
Open to offers…. ;-)
Wow this is an amazing meeting of the minds! I respect the research of these two men probably more then any one els on the planet
The lattice/netting that Ralph refers to crossing Joachim and Boaz immediately drew my mind to the veil that connects these two pillars in the High Priestess card of the Thoth tarot deck. So the veil between the light/dark, spirit world and material world, conscious/unconscious mind potentially relates into the mysteries behind the Omphalos Stone.
Fascinating, and pertinent to our time as usual, thank you
Thumbs up on take-off, because I know this will be a fascinating conversation.
Thanks for the support Chris
The truth backs Ellis up by facts. The interpretation may have a tiny bit of room but all in all truth tops fiction.
You’ve brought so much to this study, so thanks! 🙏🏻
Around the 41 min mark... There was a book called 'A Walking Tour of Southern France with Ezra Pound'; there's a great presence of Mary in that region, as you say. And Pound exploited the Mary goddess tradition (the same one that Dante traded off) in his earlier poems. Nick Drake is another - musical - connection... his early stomping ground as a student in Europe was Aix-en-Provence. Yep, a great creative energy in that region (is it a coincidence that the Tarot reappears there, also?) Fascinating chat, gents
More on Ezra Pound.
mileswmathis.com/eust.pdf
Ralph, another great video. Palmyra was wealthy from the Silk Road tariffs held by the Royal Family of Edessa. They did not have to share the Vig with Rome! This was a major intersection of the Silk Road. It went West to Alexandria, Egypt and North to Rome. The Principality of Edessa provided security for the caravans for big fees. If you did not pay the security detail they would relieved you of your inventory. Think protection rackets. These were the same ‘thieves’ that later operated in Galilee after Rome imposed taxes. ‘The Silk Roads: A New History of the World’ by Peter-Frankopan. I think you would find the chapter on The Road to Religion fascinating. Thank you again for your amazing research. Unfortunately, it will be 100 years before your work is recognized. Maybe, just 30-60 years due to the internet. A lot of vested and tenured scholars will have to ‘go to their reward’ as we say in the South.
It goes faster and faster, due to internet and circumstances like corona (Kronos / Chronos, the Netflix series Orange is the new black>>missing link, the Crown, 60 years Coronation street (Jesus and Mary reincarnated 1959, Jesus reincarnated once more 1974), see also Revelation 16:2 (he's a surgeon now in Amstelveen) that's about to happen. She's a postwoman at PostNL, literally "post" in Latin means "after". After NL comes Habsburg(-Lorraine) again - new region
And the symbol of kingship in Edessa (and Parthia) was the silk headband. I have no doubt they were very colourful and hugely expensive, hence their association with royalty.
R
See the silk headband imagery on the kings of any playing-card.
R
@@RalphEllis Jesus in his recent incarnation (soul) is in Amstelveen in surgery, the ONLY hospital in the Netherlands with a Jewish department. And the only one with a Japanese speaking desk (he was surgeon Caspar Schamberger too) . He's 46 years old now
@@RalphEllis the fabric of the gods. Probably explains the dice game of the Roman soldiers for this very expensive fabric at the foot of the cross! A pair of die are an amazing 3 dimensional random numeric system. I find it interesting Priest packed a set in their robes to determine the will of god, on occasion when prayer failed. Six numbers on two cubes will roll 11 numbers in 36 different combinations. Half the results are even and half are odd. 7 is the dominant number and the distribution frequency creates a pyramid. Each number has a twin except the 7. The observably number from above is the unseen twin on the opposite side or bottom. The fractal pattern of multiple rolls is absolute. However, the individual role is totally random. This leads me to believe particle entanglement is simply the function of 3 d observation or a characteristic of a six plained object. Albert Einstein’s ‘motion at a distance’ is simply information at a distance. See the ‘Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment’.
Great minds coming together
Thanks for the comment Melaniezenden
Great video !!!!!! x
This video exposed my lack of history knowledge, so much to learn in order to keep up. Thank you, really luv and appreciate the content. Beautiful channel
I'm listening to Michael years and it would still take me years to catch up, at least he talks in layman's terms and not in another language with big words that puts people off.☘
Fantastic discussion.
The king odessa vs Jesus correlation is amazing. My ex church wouldn’t handle that convo. Esoteric, well done and great effort with the channel x
The real correlation of Jesus is pagan sun god idea. Jesus of the gospels did not exist. So many sun gods Jesus was the latest in the row that is all.
Agreed re the convo...be awesome if they were all ears though wouldn't it.
@@onnowesterman4825 …. Mythicists only thought that Jesus was mythical, because there was no historical evidence for such a character. But if you send some time looking at the history of Edessa, it becomes obvious that Jesus was a prince and king of Edessa.
R
Putin orded the Russian army to stop isis from destroying Palmyra, and then held a celebration with a orchestra preforming in the ruins of the amphitheater. It was on TH-cam
I've been wanting a discussion with these 2 for 7 years!
Thanks for the comment Amanda
Check out Unslaved. There’s many discussions between these two there.
A meeting of minds - great video. I'm very impressed.
Excellent work ET 👍🏻
I'd love to see you two gentlemen talk about astro-theology with Santos Bonacci and Marty Leeds. That would be quite a well-rounded, round table discussion.
And a PS to Michael...
My condolences for the loss if ur friend Jordan Maxwell.
One would hope Bonacci and Leeds would study the works of Tsarion and Ellis.
The Lone Star made me think of The Lonestar State, which is Texas. On a hunch, I looked up some of the founders of Texas. One in particular was the Baron of Bastrop, a Dutch royal from the House of Orange. I wonder how many Texans realize this true history. Wiki of course just says it's because they claimed independence from Mexico. And as usual, the story goes back much further than that.
Beatrix of Orange-Nassau (the former queen of the Netherlands), one of her godparents is an American socialite, Allene Tew (Allene Tew Hostetter Nichols Burchard Köstritz de Kotzebue) 🙂
The other lone-star state was the Principality of Orange in southern France - the city and principality I say Mary Magdalene went to, when she was exiled to France. It is the same gold star on a blue background that the EU uses - but they have 12 of them (the zodiac).
See my book ‘Mary Magdalene, Princess of Orange’.
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Welcome to the family
Thanks for the support Larry
Absolutely on point!
A life long journey!
Lovely
The politics around Josephus is disturbing as so many cling on to what he said without understanding the context and conditions
He was the Joseph Goebbles of Rome, working for Vespasian. And his every word has to be seen in that light.
R
@47:00 thats kind of interesting because Dutch sounds like French to non speaker like me, also its funny how people in Beligum speak both Dutch and French
Shining Bright Musicians Against Multiple Sclerosis salutes your life/ work MWM
The net on the Omphalos Stone you guys talk about can be the symbol for a Constellation called Reticulum.
It could be the celestial latitude and longitude of the heavens above.
R
Merci 🇨🇵💞🌍💞
How do you spell the impala stone correctly? I've never heard of that before. This is so informative and intriguing
It was called: the benben, the omphalos, and the elagabal, and it was always associated with the phoenix. Ela Gabal means ‘God Mountain’ - the (very small) mountain of god.
R
In Oldenzaal, the Netherlands, you will find an old mural picture of Jesus crowning Mary Magdalene, in the Plechelmus church. Right from the altar, on the ceiling. Very rare. The only (?) other like this (Jesus and Mary depicted as royals) is in the church of Limoux, South-France
Do you have a picture?
R
Net can represent connection. The net is also a vehicle, taking you from one world to the next. Usually life to death if you are a fish.
He said he brought fire
Could "The Star" possibly be Saturn? I thought there were etymological ties between Sabbath and Saturn. I never noticed the connection with the number 7 though. That's so fascinating.
Stars are central to Judaean Christian beliefs. Just like the Queen of Sheba (star), and Queen Esther (star). The former is Egyptian. The latter is eastern, but was preserved in the Greek aster (star), and in the name for Esther (Aramaic, but said to be of foreign derivation, and meaning star).
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@@RalphEllis could you help me understand the symbology of the cherubs, perhaps also Gabriel and his/her trumpet?
grrrreat !
What kind of wisdom can be given to the "Jesus is the son of God and you must accept him as the one and only son of God or you'll burn in hell for enternity" Christian crowd and their "Loving" God?
The Net of Shells, could be a network of Roundel and its heraldic?
Joaquin and Boaz were reminiscent of the deceptive eyes. The nets represent the invisible fabric that connects them with reality.
Very interesting Joshua. I've heard many people try to work out what the net is. Do you have a source for that? I can't find anything on it
@@EsotericThoughtsTruths yes very much so. The temple represents the spiritual development of man. For many centuries the true mysteries of this temple have been concealed in deception. Jachim and Boaz are the Cherubim that protect the temple. They have weapons of deception and trick those who don't know the mysteries into losing sight of the entrance. The netting would represent a two fold description. Firstly it is the fabric of reality that wraps around the eyes and decieves men of truth. Next it is the concealment or occulting of the mysteries of the temple itself. There is a third meaning and that is that Jachim and Boaz are trapped or concealed within their own illusion just as man.
Been a while since I visited this mystery. I've done a who study on this topic and even had spiritual guidance upon it. Let me know if you want to chat. I'm friends with David, Michale cohost on unslaved
@@joshuareid9808 I would love to understand more on this Joshua, fascinating. Please email me at esotericthoughts3@gmail.com
@@EsotericThoughtsTruths I’ll message you.
This is as on the money as it gets
Thanks for the comment Brutal Truth
A long over due Paradigm Snap
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Wasn't there a net involved when Marduk slew Tiamat?
I don't recall a net but will double-check Sean
@@EsotericThoughtsTruths Thanks again.
@@EsotericThoughtsTruths Let me know what you come up with. I'm pretty sure I saw it in a video somewhere but I can't recall where exactly. Thanks again. Cheers
@@seanhammer6296 will do
The Auslane’s never forget!
As the Lady of all nations, the soul formerly incarnated as Mary Magdalene, predicted quite some events that were going to happen, like the war between North- and South Korea, Red China and Mao Zedong, etcetera. All between 1945 (when she died in Amsterdam) and 1960 (when she was born in Kampereiland). She predicted in 1959 the fall of the border between East- and West Germany. To a Dutch woman named Ida Peerdeman. You can look it up here on You Tube and on the internet
Nonsense Mary Magdalene did not exist by the way the word means tower or watch tower Fiction character as all are in the gospels except the 2 herod figures and Pontius pilote the rest are fictional.
@@onnowesterman4825 nonsense. Onno Westerman doesn't exist.
I don’t know what’s worse, this comment or the fact I’m even compelled to reply to it 😂 so entertaining seeing people claim their former wives as someone completely fictional, I heard in another interview Michael participated in ironically where they all made fun of people who talk about their previous incarnations. No one ever says they were some poor farmer they were always Jesus Christ or Krishna or some shit 🤣
Claiming you were someone special means you are absolutely no one special
@@BBond88 then again maybe everybody was somebody famous and a poor farmer depending on the life ;)
Study Nasovsky and Famenko.
look up Radomir
Ralph’s sound level is too low. Difficult to hear.
The primeval Adam was Atum who represented the Tree of Life Z Pinch Squating Man which corsed down from the Saturn Vortex in the Saturn Pole Star Configuration centered on the Ben Ben Stone. His right hand was Eve or Nebethetepet. His left hand was Lilith or Iusaaset.
Could be.
But he could also be Pharaoh Akhenaton - the Adam of Genesis.
R
The god ‘dis’ is actually ‘dis pater’ from pre-Roman times. It meant ‘sky father’ to many Indo-European peoples and is indistinguishable from the Scythian god ‘papaios,’ in that both were sky fathers that were in perfect balance - in union and contrast - with the earth mother ‘degham.’
When Rome re-interpreted these gods they put ‘dis pater’ into the underworld, which is completely opposite to its primeval association with the sky.
You can see more of these perversions of indo-european concepts in their vestal virgin rights, which were a gross and vile perversion of the hearth goddess, which was the offspring or outcome of the union of heaven and earth, in other words a temperate fire of the hearth WITHIN oneself. This is made clear with the Scythian version of the hearth goddess.
But in Rome this became a literal fire that was kept lit by oath bidden vestal virgins who face stoning and other barbaric punishments for failing to tend to the fire or for violating their oaths of chastity.
And THEN christianity…….
Pre Roman Europe wasn’t pagan or even polytheistic in the way that Greec, Rome, Persia, Egypt etc were. Rather, they had a dynamic and poetic way of expressing their principles, all of which were found in nature in within oneself.
Its always been a false duality when we invoke “christian vs pagan europe.” We have to notice what pagan Rome did to Europe even before Christianity came and defeated the Germanic holdouts.
The star is connected to the path of the planets above earth as the path makes this shape. Also, depending upon the direction of the star. whether it is upside down or right side up it represents the bicycle of the year of summer or winter. All of this stuff is connected to the cosmo, planets,nature and procreation. Man used this to create the cryptic religion we have today. As the word religion means Sun Legion.
The Hyksos have returned as the Water Sheppard’s
It has to be Holographically visualized
Can't hear anything because the volume is to low
If a scholar is one that is taught by someone or an institution,
then these guys are Nobles lol
19:00 a faraday cage "net" covering?
Great conversation but the adverts are prohibitive.
Get yourself an adblocker
How about Ian Hogan re Templar boss says 10 arks they have 7 of them .
What hell is the matter with the sound?
In a later incarnation, Jesus was Philip II of Spain, Lord of the Netherlands. Mary Magdalene incarnated then as Countess Maria of Nassau (1556-1616), the second daughter of William "the Silent" of Orange! Jesus / Philip and Mary / Maria are twin flames. Philip became Lord of the Netherlands in 1555, Maria was born in 1556!
Ga toch fietsen man .. pff wat een fantasie zeg. Jesus did not even exist. The Jesus of the gospels did not exist, there is a list of Jesusses but non of them were they one from the babbel book. Mary Magdalene did not exist either nor did Mary bethany and Mary ( the Joseph one) 12 apostle represent just the 12 zodiac signs that is all they did not exist in person. Dus ga maar een eind fietsen met je vriendin.
Quiet down whacko
The net sounds what like is being called Indra's Net today
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Which is occurring now
The Ire/ Scotia
ire means, anger violence or wrath
A Scot or a Scottie is a man from Ire-land or an irishman
Nova Scotia means New Scotland
The Foam of the Milky Way
Could the netting/shells represent the Milky Way?
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Finnegan’s Wake!
The Poodle I lvit
The Tavarian
Herodes of London
The return of the blue eyes maculed Red Blondes have returned MWM
Micheal T just like his mentor Jordan Maxwell can make any subject entertaining not to mention informative. Not so much for Ralph Ellis who will put you to sleep fast.
Could the "net" be the Milky Way?
Could Baphomet depictions be an incarnation of the Omphalus Stone?
Thanks Tessa1111. I'll soon be doing something on the Omphallus Stone
Possibly. The Milkyway was used in other areas of this theology.
R
Could be.
The Milky Way is also the goddess Nut.
R
The Ursa Republic has a single star as does Texas !
Incredible information absolute volume fail, bummer.
Thanks for the comment Gidim
They have been making fun of us. They do this same thing in movies as well. As far as past and future. When you have enough money you can manifest anything. There is alot of talk about boaz and jachim. The two pillars are mentioned in this order. When you take the first two letter of each word you get BJ. All men know the meaning of BJ which is still phallus worship. So yes they are making fun. As far as the net it could just show the connect between all of us through birth. As everything is connected. The bible is a cryptic book full of overlapping knowledge cleverly hidden in cryptic fashion. Some of these are of course mythology, gematria, zodiac, seasons, months, exoteric knowledge, esoteric knowledge and more!
Mythology .....Myth on Logic...
Tsarion referring to small hats as "guests" in foreign lands is more than I can bare...
Truth is unbearable to the weak
Remember the greatest feat of the DEVIL was convincing the world he didn't exist.. Their is no point in arguing with people like this.
Woooooo - I am coming for your children……!
R
He doesn't, he's merely an allegory of autumn/winter.
The devil was never real. As far as man just good and bad. Then in nature it is winter the reason being is if you had not saved enough to make it through the fall and winter months. You would die. This is the reason for so much talk of reaping and sowing in the bible.
Good stuff 👍
Netting. - woowoo types say there is a RA matrix net