Harbor Freight Pot Blaster Upgrades
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I use the 1/8” nozzle on a Quincy QT 54 that puts out around 15cfm.
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Lots of good information on this video. I bought one of these a long time ago but the arrangement of one of the included valve was such that it wouldn't work properly and I never used it. Will try upgrading the valves and see if that helps. One suggestion if you don't mind....check your audio. I had to turn the volume up full in order to hear your narration but when the music started, it shook the pictures off the wall!!! Thanks again
Gotta love the ol' ukrainian socket set for putting together small pipe fittings! Got metric and imperial all in one 👌
Nice setup man. I added a Ameriblaster setup to mine. Both works the same
Thanks for making this video, on my way to Lowe's
Solid video, the volume is all over the place though, having to adjust it to hear what your saying. Sure you know after 2 years though haha
Great informational video ...
The biggest "Hack" with these is your air - if you hear someone say these are rubbish, won't blast, block, use too much sand, blah blah - it's their air. These need a ton of air to work well - if your air supply is good, you don't need to change anything. If you have a 200l compressor with a 3hp motor, it won't run this. Won't. Will not. Nope... If you have a smaller compressor, it won't have a hope in hell of running this - you will be frustrated & dissapointed, the results will be rubbish, it will devour a world of blast media for crap results & you WILL curse it as a P.O.S..
These need wide-open hoses - 1/2" I.D minimum. These need dry air - very dry air. A wall-mounted $30 "air dryer" won't cut the mustard. You need to build a condensor loop - YT shows how. That will give bone-dry air. As a rough guide, you're going to need 400l of air-storage at 100 psi for that ^ to work properly. I've done it both ways for a living, this isn't "Imagination" or some-such. 200l additional storage is edge-iffy-minimum if you're running a 3hp 200l "home" compressor - this ^ will still tear the backside out of that 3hp compressor trying to keep up. Upside, the blaster will suddenly amaze you - no clogs (none) - you'll use 1/10 of the sand you were using - paint & rust will vanish at a speed you could never have imagined. You will suddenly regard this ^^ as one of your favorite tools. If you fix your air. Loads. Then some more. Another Upside - by fixing your air, all your other air-tools will also suddenly transform into what you thought they would be when you bought them - you will start enjoying using them instead of wondering wtf is wrong with this P.O.S now?? It's the air. More. More is gooder.
At minimum what would you recommend for an air compressor for this blaster. I already know that a 125psi - 2hp - 8gal is not enough for the glass bead I am using with this system for pool tile cleaning. It won't push anything through the hose/tool.
@@jackbaker4133 I blast a lot - my set up is a 3hp 220v 200l compressor feeding its own tank & a second 200l tank off the old compressor I had that died. So 400l storage, a cooling loop (just 1/2" qualpex run up & down a wall with drains on the bottoms of the loops (for water) plus high-flow airlines. Runs the blaster no problem, but the compressor is working hard - I'm ok with that, it's what I got it to do -work. The 400l storage is key, otherwise you just don't have enough air in the system & the blaster will work rubbish. Mine works great off this system & gets an awful lot of use for what is a "DIY" set-up really. Hope that helps.
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Love your video about the upgrade. Do you have a parts list?
Thank you.
No, sorry I never got around to it
Did you adjust the flow ? The first piece you have a ton of media then it seems more precise .
Yes in the vid it says adjusting media valve between the two parts he did
Perfect timing I just got my 110lb pot from harbor freight today! Was already thinking about doing the ameriblaster kit. How does that kit compare to the mods you did to it in this video? Also what media do you use and how much cfm is your compressor putting out?
I’ve never used an ameriblaster kit but I haven’t had any issues yet using this set up. I prefer the blast nozzle I’m using over his since it seems to be a lot shorter which helps out a lot in the cabinet. The ball valves I’m using are only $10 so I don’t mind replacing them when I have to which isn’t very often.
I’m using a Quincy qt54 which puts out about 15cfm and green diamond 30/60 for media.
Just gave his site a quick look over. His lower manifold seems like a decent bolt on set up but my main reason to swapping everything was to have a full 1/2” from bottom of the tank to the nozzle and to ditch the lower 3/8 ball valve. And he may sell a custom hose length but I’d recommend 10’. That extra 2’ made a big difference with the things I blast. Definitely trash the hose it came with and replace it with a quality one asap. They are a lot more flexible and easier to work with.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating appreciate it! I will be trying out this mod you did and see how this works out for me as it will probably be way cheaper than that ameriblaster kit. I will also be buying that nozzle you’re running. Where did you get your hose? I wish they sold green diamond media in my area but they don’t!
@@perknowitzki7158 awesome, I think you’ll be happy with it! I don’t regret doing it to mine.
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Here’s the link to the site but it’s not letting me search products for some reason. May have to call and order now but I paid $34 for a 10’ piece of 1/2” ID x 15/16” OD about a year ago. Seems to be a good hose for the money. Been running it for a good amount of time and haven’t had any blow outs yet.
@@perknowitzki7158 what do you need to buy
what media & size grit did you use on the steel parts ? how much air pressure & feed ? could you show how you put it in the cabnet
30/60 green diamond. Feed air is 90 psi and regulator was probably set around 60 psi. I’ll make a shop video soon and cover it, but I just drilled a hole through the cabinet and ran the blast hose through with a grommet to protect the hose.
Hey I just got my blast pot going, with all the upgrades accept I’m using the gun/hose that comes with it but I still am having clogging issues. I am going to order the gun you recommended, but what hose are you running?
Are you using clean media or seeing any moisture in your air lines?
I don’t remember where the hose came from it’s been a few years now since I ordered it.
How much cfm are you using?
@@tracywright5526 compressor is rated 15cfm at 90psi
How long cam you blast between refill? I got the smaller 40lb and I feel like by the time I got it dialed in im out-of media lol. 110 is on sale at Canadian Harbour freight princess auto so thinking about upgrading
I typically get about 45 minutes between refills
Wonder if you drill and tap bottom of tank to 1/2'' or 3/4 to aid flow from tank as well ?
These modifications supply more than enough media for my 15cfm air supply. That would be helpful to clear potential clogs. (I've managed to get small powder coat plugs in my tank from recycling media in my blast cabinet)
@@royalcoatspowdercoating Im lucky have 60cfm looking to upgrade my pressure tank and has deadman straight gun on it but blocks up at bottom outlet,pain in the ass to clear as you know, been using syphon gun out of bucket works ok for a while.
What diameter was the inside of the harbor freight nozzle?
I’m not sure, it’s mostly likely around 3/32”
Where did you get the wheels I have the same blasting pot ?.
The wheels came off of a wagon, also from harbor freight.
Hey you able to send me a cart link on Amazon of the fittings pls
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What kind of compressor are you running cfm specs?
Quincy QT-54 puts out about 15cfm at 90psi
What kind of media are you using?
Green diamond
I was the thousandth like 😎good vid man
Heck yeah I have a video with 1,000 likes lol thanks for the support 🤘🏼
Why did you replace them
Better quality valves, bigger ID for better flow which also helps with clogging.
What air pressure are you running in? I did all the upgrades and it still seems to clog. I did see the guy that put a sander on it to vibrate it. Do you have problems with it clogging
Typically 40-60psi. Two main things will cause clogs, moisture and large pieces of media that made there way into the bag or debris in recycled media. If mine clogs it is due to the recycled media or a piece too large from the bag. Are you using any filtration in your air lines?
So how much did you end up paying for all the upgrades? Any links?
I spent about $70 on the hose a believe. It was a long time ago and I don’t remember the site for it.
I spent about $50 on fittings and new air line on the pot.
The wheels and pipe to raise it up was something I had around the shop.
The nozzle was $50. I use the 1/8” nozzle. Here is the link amzn.to/3KbCwDP
when connecting brass fittings . . . you don't require teflon tape . . . ask any plumber who knows brass fittings
You can use LocTite blue and you will not have any air leaks .
That music is really annoying !
Work on your volume setting on your videos!!!
And use some different music !
Teflon tape is crap.....Always use pipe dope with teflon in it.
Did I miss a parts list from Lowes? Would love to do this upgrade, but don't want to have to guess if the list is already available. Thanks
Thanks for making this! I also just bought mine and I knew I'd need to tweak it a bit (like most things from HF).
Great video would please tell me where you purchased the blast nozzel?? Thank you for the videos you do
Thank you! Link to nozzle is in the description 👍🏼
All good info but I would recommend steel ball valves or the media is going to wear through them quickly.
i have 2 200l compressors just a joke i will be buying half inch fitting soon and trying to use my blaster then 👍
Hey there could you tell me the list of fitting you used for the setup you bought from lowes thanks
Or girls 😉
My blast set up doesn’t seem to touch powder it is a bottom feed set up would a pressure pot solve my issues it got rid of the gloss so I thought i would try coating over it but my Eastwood dual voltage wasn’t getting full coverage would the rc1 make that an non issue or is it important to get the the part bare again
I am using hf aluminum oxide if that info helps
I plan on getting the rc1 soon anyways but I don’t know if I should get a decent stripper first
Unless you have a large compressor and blast pot, most beginner blasting setups aren’t going to do much to powder. Mine will take it off but it’s slow and not worth it. I would recommend getting a chemical stripper to get the part down to bare metal before recoating. The RC-1 will definitely help with multiple coats but I suggest taking the old coating off first.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I have a decent size compressor but I agree. What chemical stripper would you recommend?
@@bestmichael1 you’d need 100+ cfm to efficiently blast powder coat. I recommend rim strip. I’ve had good luck with it.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I don’t have the business set up yet but I’ll look into getting the paperwork for that thank you for helping
First time on your channel. Really impressive. Most impressed with how you reply to questions. I'm new to all of this. Here's my dumb question... Did you replace/uograde with same size components (to get better quality) or did you increase the size of them, as well? What size components after the upgrade and what size hoses? Looking forward to watching more of your videos. Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching!
I replaced the ball valves with one size up to 1/2” and the necessary fittings to adapt them. I did this do better quality and to be able ti clear clogs easier if and when needed with the bigger valve. Sometimes larger pieces of media make it into a new bag from the manufacturer so this helps with that.
I also put quick connect fittings on the air hose that T’s off from the main supply down to the media valve to be able to remove the bottom assembly easier if there’s a major clog (I’ve managed to get silicon plugs in my blast pot from recycling my media out of my cabinet without sifting it before refilling)
The blast hose I added is the same size ID but it is a better quality hose that lasts longer and is more flexible making it easier to handle.
Many many thanks!
Use the Gorilla tape on the blasting edge and the cheap stuff on the rest
Great video, I learned a few things. One thing none of the videos I have watched explain exactly how they are controlling the flow through the system. HF instructions say the abrasive valve and trigger valve should always be either full open or closed, otherwise you blow a hole in the side of the valve. Are you only controlling the flow with the throttle valve?
I seem to get way too much media in the beginning and I can empty my 40 lb pot rather fast. I have been using the abrasive valve to try and control that which isn't right but I can't seem to get the right mix for very long. Am I just using too much pressure? Where is your throttle valve when things are working well for you? 25%, 50% 75%, 100% ?
I'd appreciate any advise.
Thanks
So the air supply valve on the back of the tank is always wide open and same with the valve at the nozzle when in use. You’ll only only want to have the nozzle valve all the way open or closed or it will wear through quickly. The media valve on the bottom of the tank is where I control the media and haven’t had any issues with wearing on that valve. I typically have that one open to probably 20-30% when I’m blasting in my cabinet at around 50psi I will have it open a little more when open air blasting at around 90psi
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Thank you so much. That helps a great deal. I have not throttled my compressor back to 90 psi so I will try that also.
@@thomlemon7175 glad I could help, good luck 👍🏼
Thanks for the info. I have a new one that I will modify. The existing parts suck.
What grit and type media were you using and what size tip? Compressor size? Thanks again
30/60 green diamond, Quincy qt54, and this nozzle amzn.to/3zh62a3
Im having some problems with my blast pot and haven’t gotten a use out of it yet. Im running black diamond media and my gun is getting clogged, what size should I upgrade the blast gun to?
I use this blast nozzle with a 1/8” tip. amzn.to/3PptGWU
You could also try to sift your media before putting it into the tank if you’re finding large pieces.
Cool! Could probably use these same mods on the Eastwood tank as well. Thanks for the tech sir.
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Hey man can u tell me exactly what u got at lowes 😔🥺
I drilled n taped the bottom
what kind of compresor do you use? What is the preassure and CFM?
Quincy QT54
What line did you switch to?
Whats the minimum size compressor I would need for this setup?
I’d suggest a minimum 60 gal tank and 10+ cfm compressor. More is always better though. There is a short clip of it running on a small 8 gal air compressor in this video Cost To Start Powder Coating
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What size and brand of tires did you upgrade to? Where did you purchase them? No parts list for the fittings?
The wheels are off of a wagon I got from harbor freight. I misplaced the receipt with the fitting sizes. But you’ll just need to find the sizes of the existing parts and threaded hole in the bottom and you can get all the fittings you need to make it work.
Where did you get the nozzle that replaced the deadman?
Here’s the direct link amzn.to/44xTtBs
You don’t use Teflon on brass only on the iron pipe
Do you have a fitting parts list. And link the nozzle
I never got around to a parts list for the fittings. The link to the nozzle is in the description 👍🏼
So I bought this tank to blast peeling paint from ceader shake siding. I am using walnuts. I started with 12 grit, and right of the bat it clogged. Then I went to 24 grit, and that came out for a few seconds then clogged. I’m at 125psi and a 5.1 cfm with a 200 gallon tank. Is there a specific tip I should upgrade to?
Sorry for the late reply. This is the nozzle I use and recommend for this blast pot. amzn.to/3LAUYXn
@@royalcoatspowdercoatingwhat size was it you went with?
@@Cj_Raynal I use the 1/8” nozzle
@@royalcoatspowdercoating thank you, will be ordering one today.
Do you have a video on how you typically set up your tank? As far as valves etc where you typically do your adjustments?
I’ve got mine set up like this. Seems like I have to shake it quite a bit to keep the media flowing
Is your air 100% dry? Mine works really well like this
There are cheap vibration motors you can strap to the tank that will keep the media flowing.
what psi you running your compressor at
I keep my lines regulated right at 100psi
Other than the audio on the non-pov shots, this is an excellent explanation. Did you ever come up with a cost breakdown for all the fittings? 👌Nice work.
I purchased a mic to try to solve the audio issues but it wasn’t all that great. I do a couple sound test and edit them out to kind of get the mic adjusted on the iPhone until I can get a better mic.
I never added it up but to do everything included the 3/8s couplers (that you don’t have to do) I think was roughly $80. It’s been worth it in my opinion.
You just have the hose stuck in your cabinet? Do you recover the sand?
Correct. Media goes to the bottom of the cabinet. Then I just drain and refill the blast pot. The refill down time is significantly less than the blasting time with the siphon fed systems that come in the cabinets.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I think I will add the blaster to the bottom of my cabinet connected with 2" valve. Then I could open the valve to refill from the cabinet. Works great in my head, LOL
Hey, got mine connected. Works great. But the dust ic crazy thick. I have the harbor freight dust collector on the back of the cabinet. Dust was not an issue befor with the cabinet. You have any issue with dust?
How do you relcaim your media using a blastpot ? Trying a setup like this myself
Dump the media into a container under the cabinet and refill the pot when empty.
Dump the media into a container under the cabinet and refill the pot when empty.
@@ogossw5991 it funnels to the bottom of the cabinet and holds there. There’s a door to release the media into my container.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating got it sweet man do you have to filter it or sift it with a screen ?
what compressor?
Quincy qt 54
What's the ID on your blast hose? Thanks.
1/2”
@@royalcoatspowdercoating Thanks !
Thanks bud I have the very same hose, what’s your hose length? Mine is 10 ft and seems too long.
What blast media do you use?
Green diamond 30/60
It don't work I have one not use it one time
What are you having issues with?
Do you talk like you type ?
nice job,been thinking about getting a pot for large items I can't fit in my cabinet
I use this pot for my cabinet and for open air blasting. I left my siphon feed gun in the cabinet when I made the switch thinking I would still use it from time to time but I haven’t touched it since I made the switch. Definitely worth the purchase considering how much time is saved blasting.
How do you use it in your cabinet?? It would seem like it wouldn't make a seal to me so I'm a little confused on that part.
@@dieselwilson9767 I drilled a hole in the cabinet next to the original hole for the air line from the foot petal to the siphon feed gun and put a grommet in. The original set up has a small gap between the air line and grommet also so this is no different.
Thanks for sharing this. How much CFM is you compressor pumping out and are you using the 1/8" nozzle that your link points to? What media and grit size do you use? Sorry about all the questions, but you seem to have a good system. Thanks for another informative video!
Yes I use the 1/8 nozzle. Compressor is right at 15cfm. It’s a Quincy qt54. Has no issues keeping up with the 1/8 nozzle. Actually shuts off for a good amount of time while continuous blasting on 3/8 air hose. I either need a shorter run from my compressor or bigger diameter or a combo of both. But no issues with it keeping up with the 1/8 nozzle.
I also use green diamond 30/60
@@royalcoatspowdercoating Thanks so much for your quick replies 😁 I really hope this channel and subscribers shoots through the roof. You deserve it!
@@adrianmaree8352 thanks man, I appreciate it!
What size compressor do you have? What pressure are you using? Ty!
Using a Quincy QT-54 and blasting around 40-60 psi majority of the time.
hey man nice video, quick question though what kind of air compressor are you using?
Quincy QT-54
How exciting. Watching someone tape wrap a myraid of fittings rather than preinstalling and describing the process. Not much faith in those watching the videos, and it's a negative from an entertainment perspective. Had to you fast forward altogether too much to get through this video.
Stifle, dingbat!
This guy will say anything to make money off someone... ??