For those wondering where I bought my Launch Diagun IV, here is the link: goo.gl/A4etbD UPDATE: the Launch will be back in stock by March 29th :) The seller told me they would offer a DISCOUNT to buyers that go to their amazon page via this link.The technical support is good; they answered my questions about registering the tool right away. You can ask any technical questions here: facebook.com/Kingbolen.fans/ Thanks, Ivan
Thanks for posting this! I got my Diagun IV about six months ago after seeing Eric O use one a bunch of times on his channel. Back then they were going for around $520 on Amazon, and I was lucky to get one from a seller running a promo for $490 all in. Mine was a more basic kit that didn't come with all the pre-OBD2 adapters, but I doubt I'll ever need that functionality and it looks pretty hit-or-miss anyway. Needless to say I'm pleased with my purchase, but even for over $600 the Launch is a great deal and I wouldn't hesitate to get one today.
Great video just got X-431 V + for about a month now and all i can say is wow been working with a old modis and obd2 scanners. Looking forward to videos with your launch. Like you i do a lot of mobile service and watching you and your crew Dr Eric , Dr Keith, Dr Danner and others great techs on YT have been a great help to me and others not to be parts changes. Made me step up my diagnostic approach dealing with electrical issues thank you. Be blessed.
Eddie Davis I was gonna get the v431+ how is it? I have the Autel Elite and Snap On Edge 18.4 Keith said the pro is same as the 431+ amazon has it for a grand
Idriss Moussa I didn’t like it, I ended up with the Launch Torque, Autel IM608 , Bosch ADS 625, Snap On Zeus, CanDo C Pro, Launch Diagun all awesome machines.
Idriss Moussa the MK908 is a beast great machine. If you are in the USA tho keep in mind that’s a global unit and can’t use it for Chrysler secure gateway. Sub me I’ll be making a scanner comparison video soon.
Thank you Ivan. Good job. I am amazed at the free advertisement this Diagun IV has gotten since August of 2018 when Keith Perkins showcased it. Bought mine last year for $518. Supply and demand. I am very pleased with my Diagun IV. Did another free update in January and this tool does great on 2018's. Got my 4 channel micsig tablet DSO in December for $500 from Sainsmart.
I bought a Launch X431 Pro S Mini which is very similar to your Diagun IV. I have used it on GM, Jeep, and VW and am very happy with the capability of this Launch scantool. Your testing confirms what I already knew. Great series of videos. Keep up the great work.
I have the Diagun IV too. I have tested it with old 90's BMW:s with the old 20pin round diagnostic port. That Launch communicates with these cars with no problem. So it depends on car and diagnostic tool manufacturer what you can do with each tool.
Thanks for running thru this X431 Diagun IV .. I myself have found some “holes” in its support (i.e. no EOBD) for older Honda vans. Oddly, the new Thinktool Pros has the same issue. Reported it to support. Upd. Aha, not in the Honda Menu Screen. On the “all” screen.
Ivan guess I made the right purchase without buying all the extra adapters. Half the cars on the tool I've never heard of. Good video Ivan thanks much ❤️️
Thank you for taking the time to perform and video this review. Excellent! Maybe future software updates to the Launch will include retro vehicle communication capability and fix quirky End Session functionality. Thanks again Ivan!
I know this video is dated....does this have the TPMS function to read sensors at the wheels and and ability to program new ones? I work with Subaru's and they are TPMS complicated beasts.
Nice comparison Ivan. I have been using my Diagun IV for about a year now, and it does get an "A". The price must have gone up since I bought mine, I paid $498 + $30 S&H but mine did not come with all the extra connectors, it just included the OBDII bluetooth connector, and the OBDII cable connector.
Mannn! you rock... just like me(lol) ! I have been looking for a comprehensive job like this for 100s of videos... best damned one HANDS DOWN !!! no smart arse condescending crap, no babble, straight to it, and quick! Thumbs up, I would give you 10 if it let me. ...and I am subscribing, which I ever hardly do! QUESTION: how will this thing fare against a 2010 G4500 Duramax 6.6 LGH Diesel shuttle bus with air ride and a T-harness and 3 compressors (OEM, AUX(secondary Thermoking unit, and a 3rd compressor I have no idea what for)
I pulled the trigger on the Launch Mini Pro for 699 last night (from Diagnose Dan's page). I've been eyeing these for a while, and from what Keith said, it sounds like the software is pretty much the same. I opted for the in between size strictly for viewing more data graphs at once. I believe my MS906BT, which was 1249 from AESwave, would be considered "equivalent". Basically the updated version of the DS708, but with bluetooth. It just doesn't go into programming, does some coding though.
So, i have the Launch torque and a Snap on Verus. I just bought the Diagun IV , because it seemed to be the best bang for the buck and its cool. I just had a 04 Mercedes in. Both Launch tools and the Verus would not communicate with the SRS system....my friend's Autel will, and cleared the self inflicted codes. You better still bring the Autel on the road with you, Ivan.
I wonder if before you buy a new car if there's anyway you can get a list of the OBD2 codes accessible on the vehicle . I guess shop OBD2 codes for the future service.
i got mine a month ago and it works well . except last week 2001 civic with running problem no check engine light scanned for codes launch said no codes . hooked up my autel 906 and it displayed miss fire codes . same thing with 2006 altima it will not display past codes
If it has bi directional capability and affordable for a diyer retiree I'll get it . Still dealing with that pesky po448 on my 2006 subie sti emissions coming up in late april. . If you were closer to new haven ct I would take my car for you to check out. Have a great day
Is this a US market tool or is this one of the grey market tools with no US support? The amazon page just has hundreds of questions about if it works with a specific vehicle, but no info on support.
It’s a Chinese market tool sold in the US through King Bolen. I picked one up as well but you shouldn’t have any issues with support from King Bolen with Amazons customer service being as good as it is.
hello good work in explaining different modules Your help would be highly appreciated if you can help out before i buy a module I am new to this, while i have always liked supping up my cars in the past. I now have a Porsche cayenne turbo 958 2012 model and i am looking into installing a catback exhaust system and re-programing the ecu and increase the power to safe limits (stage 1), I also have one key and would like to make a duplicate. what is the best module and add on"s that would best work with my car and purposes help a brother out Regards Saeb
Hello, I know this is an old video, but I am considering one of these little Launches. Curious though, the vehicles that you were able to get into in the video all had manual or CVT transmissions - have you looked into the bi-directional controls for automatics? If so, can this little thing handle shift and TCC solenoid activation for diagnostic purposes? Thank you!!! This was a fantastic walk through of the tool.
The launch has the power balance test on fords that support it. I use it all of the time and its update rate is faster than the Autel. It has some awesome capabilities for its size. I’ve programmed dodge key fobs, an older Jeep passenger door module for the keyless entry, Honda keys, Honda passenger airbag modules, etc. I knew it would do a lot but it still surprises me sometimes.
I was told that there is a fair amount of code crossover between the Chinese manufacturers. There are no hard and fast rules but in general coverage will be weak on cars older than about 5 years before the tool came out. That's why snap on is so good on the old cars. I keep a classic 'brick' for engine diagnostics on the 90s BMWs no other tool will show oxygen sensor data for me on the pre obd cars.
Nice review but you are not comparing apples to apples regarding the Launch and Autel scanner. The Autel scanner you have is old. Now if you bought a new Autel and compared that one to New Launch scanner, then you have a fair comparison. Sorry I just had to say that.
Great video again! Please let us know if you trust other older cars and what the result is? I have Autel Elite and I tried once on an older one but it didn’t work. Are you saying that it doesn’t work on any previous 96s, what have you heard? And what about your snap on does it? I know the brick will.
Re Disconning the airbag. I kind of agree given the type of roads you drive on, an unintentional deployment is far more likely to happen. However for normal highway and city driving the probability of injury from shrapnel is way smaller than the benifit it will give in a major crash.
FYI: Response from seller: "Hello, launch x431 diagun iv still can work without update after two years later, you just not get the latest software version, it will not affect using." Note: If you do want to update it, it'll cost you at least $400/yr.
I would love for you to do a unboxing and indepth look at the snap on Verus , what you get and how to go though the menu's and how to hook things up , like basic go over of all the basic's of the verus and different versions. what to look out for if you go to buy one . Have you seen the new snap on ?
The stopping distance on wet, snow, ice is amazingly better with ABS. The difference between collision and not, but if an expensive ABS repair I can understand, but disco a good system is bad decision IMO. Airbag too with no history of bad bags. I had an old girlfriend with bad bags once, had to disco...
I have lived in wet snow and ice all my life. I believe in snow tires and intimately knowing the characteristics of your vehicle in extreme conditions, including practicing maneuvers in a safe environment. The one particular case where ABS fails miserably is coming to a full stop from 5mph in the snow...just keeps chattering until your vehicle is in the middle of the intersection haha
Thanks for an excellent test. Is it practical or possible to install and use an under-dash switch to cut off the ABS function in situations where you know it does not function well, such as stopping from 5 mph in ice and snow as you described, and the ”free wheeling” down icy mountain roads that the viewer from West Virginia described?
hey ivan i was wondering what is the different between diagun iv and LAUNCH X431 PROS Mini Bi-Directional Scan Tool Code Reader Car Diagnostic Tool WiFi Bluetooth ECU Coding Oil Reset Injector Key Coding with 2 Years Free Online Update (Advanced Version of PRO Mini)
I think a lot of the issues in the smaller units may have to do with the wireless link. Although it is a nice option 90% of the time, the direct cable is almost always faster. There have also been a few "rumors" that for some vehicle access and connection options, the wireless doesn't work, but if you connect it up, it does.
That's a nice wrap up Ivan. I can't believe something so small can do all of that. You and Keith should do some in depth scan tool comparisons because there are so many units out there and you don't want to blow your cash on something lacking. Between the two of you guys I reckon you could come up with a good catalogue of scan tool reviews that would be the go to list......great vid mate. 😉
The maxisys has the J2534 pass-through device for flashing the cars computer. You can't flash the EEPROM without it and its at least a 500 dollar device and doesn't even include the computer or factory subscriptions needed for the car. Just thought that should be clarified why the autel costs significantly more. My friend has one for his car... if you wan't to program the cars parameters you NEED that device. A lot of people do it because the the factory tune favors emissions but they want better fuel economy and power. Much like the VW scandal. I am in the market for scan tools and i really liked the review!
hey ivan...good job on the video. I really wish I had found this vid. before I bought the Bosch. cause it is really a nitemare to navigate with. I think I will keep it any way. My family wants me to stop fixing cars and I wonder what they will say when I order the launch. I think they should give a free class on operating it so it would be easier getting started . I am 77 years old and I'm still working on cars. No rocking chair for me. I just wanna say God bless guys like you that give so of yourself. Choctawman
Nice review Ivan Eric O of SMA has multiple scanners. Bosch is his new go to not Snapon. 1. Snap on has the scope and is a pro level tool with awesome backend support!!! Yes the update is $1,000 but that’s what $100 per month or 1 hour of labor. That is cheap from my perspective. My snap on D10 has served me well. Got it used off eBay less than 2k with 18.2. Snap on is loaded with things like component testing. That costs money. It my go to scanner. 2. Autel is nice but I personally would not invest in it. My opinion. 3. Launch. It is a great too at $700. It provides a great deal of features for the price. My view figure out what you want to do first. Am I doing what Ivan doing? Am I just my own DIY. Is my hobby or is this going to be a business for me. Then by the tool you need. Last there is going to be a big change in how we work, soon. It is going to be OEM software PC based or 3rd party PC based software with OEM authentication to have by directional options. The cheap unauthorized scanners are done.... The Pico scope is PC based right? Remember how am I going to use the tool. It will age out in time. Then spend your money wisely. Money is so easy to spend and hard to earn. Right Ivan?
Autel and Launch already have the authentication software work around in a newer update. So that isn't going to be an issue. Snap-On is WAY overpriced and doesn't do many of the things the Autel and Launch can do. The only issues I've seen with the Bosch is in the data pids, just like the rest of the OTC/Bosch tools, they don't let you select the ones you want if you go into specific tests.
I agree with you I bought a used like new snap on edge 18.4 for 3k that’s good price for me. I have the Autel Elite with two free years and a pico. I was gonna get the launch 431+ anyone that says snap on is over priced never looked on eBay. Edge on there right now 18.2 for 3k most people who don’t like snap on are DIYers that don’t want to spend the Money so they talk crap. Just like welding and everlast it’s all the same. The back end stuff like Mitchell, pin outs, built in scope, shop steam all valuable but the DIYers would never know.
Hi Ivan i have the x431 V and i used it for 92 mitsubishi mighty max and it worked just fine, read codes, live data and clear codes. But for a reazon a couldn't get anything for 2107 Toyota Yaris ia, and i even tried to do it on Mazda since this Toyota is all Mazda
I am with you on the air bags, Had a friend whom hit a car with minor body damage but set of the air bag she was injured by the air bag. It blew her back brusing both are and her chest. She had more injuries from the aie bag than she would have with out the sir bag.
Peoples!!!!! The link he has even has optional 3 year warranty. 3 years if it falls in a bucket of antifreeze they replace it with the latest version. How cool is that?
Your SO dealer must be a nice guy. SO here doesn't have a limit on repair costs and updates are ridiculous priced. As for the warranty, the two places most use to buy the launch non-US tools seem to be standing behind them. With a 3 year warranty I wouldn't even blink if a 600.00 unit died after 3 years, when the cost of a new replacement unit is still less than most tools single year updates.
I agree with you. There are going to be an interesting events to come with automotive scanners for cars. They will be PC based software driven scanners. It could come to a point where your authorized scanner might need to contact the OEM to allow you to scan a vehicle. Try to get a security key. If you are not a Locksmith or a VSP. Good luck.
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I wonder if this unit has an US version, and Asian copy version?
I bought an X-431 V on Amazon and found out from the US tech support people that it's a Chinese model and they don't support it. They told me that I would have to deal with the seller. NOT GOOD.
I have the new autel mp808, the diagon v, and the verus 1st generation, and the verdict so far they all are my go to. I also have a gm tech 2 and a modis eetms300 I'm not to sure on those yet I have yet to use them. I got the autel and the diagon v after seeing your videos and danners and Keith so far love the video and the tools. They been awesome and I made some money with them to.
The real question is will it work on 2015-2019 vehicles with all the cross traffic alert systems and programming key FOBs on the newer vehicles. My oldest vehicle is a 2004 so all the OBD I stuff I really could care less about.
@@kingbolen_official what about all the rest of the newer systems? Like driver alert module testing, parking sensor testing. Radar function testing. I buy new salavge vehicles, fix them and flip them. So I need something that works on new cars not old cars.
@@JohnColeman-ul5rj Hi,all features here Calibration service/relearn, full bidirectional control,key programming,graph capability and cover capability.
Does the tool have a vin bar code scan with camera also , on my Maximus 3,0 older vehicles that capability is so so . But also presents manual input so you can just type in the vehicle . Found on older fords, that ids does have the power balance on , the launch has trouble with , but does work on newer models very well . But curious if a manual entry present might of gave you access to the 92 GM . If available on that tool .Great video Ivan .
i have a 95 transport i use a Actron CP9190 Elite AutoScanner ...its great as you know the 95 is a obd2 with a obd1 plug that has no 12 volts in it so i power the scan tool with a cig plug ...the weak spot on that 3800 is the egr valve an the o2 sens
Aww I feel kind of sad for the AUTEL...thank you for this review Ivan! I love the fact it brings a dongle with no cables. At 0:52 what does that "Common" brand selection chart is for? It also Includes Suzuki... is it for regular OBD2 and not for EOBD? Is it true you get free updates with this tool? Because the Autel Updates price for the MaxiSYS Elite cost a Kidney!
@@weldingjunkie Sorry but I have to disagree with you, it is not garbage, I had it for years and I see that still does amazing things in european cars by just watching Ivan using it, I own the MaxiSYS Elite that comes with the J2534 right know and is a state of the art tool.
Argeny Sandoval understandable I had the 708 it was my first scanner it’s good for older cars it’s obsolete in general. I also have the Autel Elite with j2 box as well and the Elite has 10x the functions. I also have a Snap On Edge 18.4 and a pico 4425 I guess my point is you need all of them but I wouldn’t run out and buy a used 708... you telling me you would?
Hi Ivan, nice review, I have the Launch x431 V+ and the Verus, I find the launch more useful than the snap on, and value for money with its free updates the Launch is a lot better than snap on. It is cheaper to buy a new Launch when my free updates have expired rather than pay to update the verus, also did you mention the coding capabilities of the Launch? I sell and repair used cars,in the UK, and as an example I have just programmed a brand new key into a VW Polo using the Launch, something which my Verus won't get near. I have now also brought a 2 channel Pico, making the verus my very second choice now. Granted I only sell newer European cars so diagnosing a 1992 Oldsmobile wont bother me!
@Todd Orton was it $100 or so less? Saw one on line, $520 + $46 to ship from China. Amazon, free shipping $639. Worth the extra to me to go with Amazon. Looks really great for a shop or DIYer (like me).
For those wondering where I bought my Launch Diagun IV, here is the link: goo.gl/A4etbD
UPDATE: the Launch will be back in stock by March 29th :)
The seller told me they would offer a DISCOUNT to buyers that go to their amazon page via this link.The technical support is good; they answered my questions about registering the tool right away.
You can ask any technical questions here:
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Thanks,
Ivan
Is it true you get free updates with this tool? Is a shame they do not ship internationally in this amazon store.
Ivan is the diagun iv a small version of Launch X431 V? Other than the larger screen, are there differences between the 2? Thanks.
@@map7463 Yes, the diagun iv a small version of Launch X431 V,but X431 V can do more action test.
@@sinegra30 2 years free updates!
Ivan, sent you an email.
Thanks for posting this! I got my Diagun IV about six months ago after seeing Eric O use one a bunch of times on his channel. Back then they were going for around $520 on Amazon, and I was lucky to get one from a seller running a promo for $490 all in. Mine was a more basic kit that didn't come with all the pre-OBD2 adapters, but I doubt I'll ever need that functionality and it looks pretty hit-or-miss anyway.
Needless to say I'm pleased with my purchase, but even for over $600 the Launch is a great deal and I wouldn't hesitate to get one today.
the way you say "oh ooh" is just hilarious lol
thanks Ivan we appreciate your efforts in doing these REAL reviews
I ordered my Launch X431 V today. Can't wait for it to arrive
Great video just got X-431 V + for about a month now and all i can say is wow been working with a old modis and obd2 scanners. Looking forward to videos with your launch. Like you i do a lot of mobile service and watching you and your crew Dr Eric , Dr Keith, Dr Danner and others great techs on YT have been a great help to me and others not to be parts changes. Made me step up my diagnostic approach dealing with electrical issues thank you. Be blessed.
Eddie Davis I was gonna get the v431+ how is it? I have the Autel Elite and Snap On Edge 18.4 Keith said the pro is same as the 431+ amazon has it for a grand
@@weldingjunkie Hi, did you finally get the V431+ & how is it compared to Autel. I'm considering a Autel MK908P or Launch x431 V+.
thanks
Idriss Moussa I didn’t like it, I ended up with the Launch Torque, Autel IM608 , Bosch ADS 625, Snap On Zeus, CanDo C Pro, Launch Diagun all awesome machines.
Idriss Moussa the MK908 is a beast great machine. If you are in the USA tho keep in mind that’s a global unit and can’t use it for Chrysler secure gateway. Sub me I’ll be making a scanner comparison video soon.
Thank you Ivan. Good job. I am amazed at the free advertisement this Diagun IV has gotten since August of 2018 when Keith Perkins showcased it. Bought mine last year for $518. Supply and demand. I am very pleased with my Diagun IV. Did another free update in January and this tool does great on 2018's. Got my 4 channel micsig tablet DSO in December for $500 from Sainsmart.
I bought a Launch X431 Pro S Mini which is very similar to your Diagun IV. I have used it on GM, Jeep, and VW and am very happy with the capability of this Launch scantool. Your testing confirms what I already knew. Great series of videos. Keep up the great work.
All of the X431 units use the same software and have the same abilities. The only real difference is in the device size and which options are enabled.
I purchased the same model.
@@kevev Have you had good luck with yours? It has worked flawlessly for me on all three of my personal vehicles. I would buy it again.
I purchased the X431 Pro S Mini also, very happy with it so far.
What x-431 model has all the options available?
I have the Diagun IV too. I have tested it with old 90's BMW:s with the old 20pin round diagnostic port. That Launch communicates with these cars with no problem. So it depends on car and diagnostic tool manufacturer what you can do with each tool.
When I first used mine to diagnose a evap code from under the car being able to use the bi controls, at that moment I knew I made the right choice 👍
Thanks for running thru this X431 Diagun IV .. I myself have found some “holes” in its support (i.e. no EOBD) for older Honda vans.
Oddly, the new Thinktool Pros has the same issue. Reported it to support. Upd. Aha, not in the Honda Menu Screen. On the “all” screen.
Ivan guess I made the right purchase without buying all the extra adapters. Half the cars on the tool I've never heard of. Good video Ivan thanks much ❤️️
The adapters are for obd 1
Ivan, thanks for a great tool review. They probably sold out by now. I'll try and get one this week. Thanks again!
Awesome review and input. Keith says its good, Codys Auto Diagnostics and you give it a thumbs up, very well maybe my next scan tool purchase.
Thank you for taking the time to perform and video this review. Excellent! Maybe future software updates to the Launch will include retro vehicle communication capability and fix quirky End Session functionality. Thanks again Ivan!
I know this video is dated....does this have the TPMS function to read sensors at the wheels and and ability to program new ones? I work with Subaru's and they are TPMS complicated beasts.
Nice comparison Ivan. I have been using my Diagun IV for about a year now, and it does get an "A". The price must have gone up since I bought mine, I paid $498 + $30 S&H but mine did not come with all the extra connectors, it just included the OBDII bluetooth connector, and the OBDII cable connector.
Mannn! you rock... just like me(lol) !
I have been looking for a comprehensive job like this for 100s of videos... best damned one HANDS DOWN !!!
no smart arse condescending crap, no babble, straight to it, and quick!
Thumbs up, I would give you 10 if it let me. ...and I am subscribing, which I ever hardly do!
QUESTION: how will this thing fare against a 2010 G4500 Duramax 6.6 LGH Diesel shuttle bus with air ride and a T-harness and 3 compressors (OEM, AUX(secondary Thermoking unit, and a 3rd compressor I have no idea what for)
Thanks for the comment, and welcome to the channel! All these scanners should be able to do the 2010 Duramax no problem :)
That diagun looks pretty amazing. I’m still checking out various scan tools. Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback 🍻👍
A well done video showing the capabilities
I pulled the trigger on the Launch Mini Pro for 699 last night (from Diagnose Dan's page). I've been eyeing these for a while, and from what Keith said, it sounds like the software is pretty much the same. I opted for the in between size strictly for viewing more data graphs at once. I believe my MS906BT, which was 1249 from AESwave, would be considered "equivalent". Basically the updated version of the DS708, but with bluetooth. It just doesn't go into programming, does some coding though.
So, i have the Launch torque and a Snap on Verus. I just bought the Diagun IV , because it seemed to be the best bang for the buck and its cool. I just had a 04 Mercedes in. Both Launch tools and the Verus would not communicate with the SRS system....my friend's Autel will, and cleared the self inflicted codes. You better still bring the Autel on the road with you, Ivan.
Ivan obd 1 does work 4 me. It just takes sometime to connect/read.however, i only tried it a couple times though.
Ivan, for the initialisation, try going in from "special function" rather than "diagnose" on the home screen.
I wonder if before you buy a new car if there's anyway you can get a list of the OBD2 codes accessible on the vehicle . I guess shop OBD2 codes for the future service.
Just bought the launch I'm pretty impressed.
i got mine a month ago and it works well . except last week 2001 civic with running problem no check engine light scanned for codes launch said no codes . hooked up my autel 906 and it displayed miss fire codes . same thing with 2006 altima it will not display past codes
You should try the Xtool D7 and D8.. I wanted to see the Launch vs the new Xtool D8; but no one has done it yet.
If it has bi directional capability and affordable for a diyer retiree I'll get it . Still dealing with that pesky po448 on my 2006 subie sti emissions coming up in late april. . If you were closer to new haven ct I would take my car for you to check out. Have a great day
Is this a US market tool or is this one of the grey market tools with no US support? The amazon page just has hundreds of questions about if it works with a specific vehicle, but no info on support.
It’s a Chinese market tool sold in the US through King Bolen. I picked one up as well but you shouldn’t have any issues with support from King Bolen with Amazons customer service being as good as it is.
I'm a full time student at a college, I never had a scan tool before so I'm looking to spend my money wisely on one what do you recommend. Thanks
hello
good work in explaining different modules
Your help would be highly appreciated if you can help out before i buy a module
I am new to this, while i have always liked supping up my cars in the past. I now have a Porsche cayenne turbo 958 2012 model and i am looking into installing a catback exhaust system and re-programing the ecu and increase the power to safe limits (stage 1), I also have one key and would like to make a duplicate.
what is the best module and add on"s that would best work with my car and purposes
help a brother out
Regards
Saeb
Hello,
I know this is an old video, but I am considering one of these little Launches. Curious though, the vehicles that you were able to get into in the video all had manual or CVT transmissions - have you looked into the bi-directional controls for automatics? If so, can this little thing handle shift and TCC solenoid activation for diagnostic purposes? Thank you!!! This was a fantastic walk through of the tool.
A timely and very informative video. Thanks !
Ivan, I know this video is couple of years old but have you tried using any of the newer Launch items and if you did, are they worth the price?
Brozer is this unit better then autel ts or not.. Will this re program 🔑and fobs.
The launch has the power balance test on fords that support it. I use it all of the time and its update rate is faster than the Autel. It has some awesome capabilities for its size. I’ve programmed dodge key fobs, an older Jeep passenger door module for the keyless entry, Honda keys, Honda passenger airbag modules, etc. I knew it would do a lot but it still surprises me sometimes.
John Pilgrim, are you referring to the Launch model reviewed here?
Is there a scan tool “resource group” that has comparisons/notes/concerns on the various popular scan tools (Autels, Launch, OTC)?
Great question, David. I'm not sure. Maybe Keith from New Level Auto would know?
Does the Launch X431 V + full size system have any clear advantages over this hand held model? Thanks for the review
I'm wondering the same. Hopefully someone can help.
Diagun IV $607
V+ $1050
No big difference if you don't do heavy truck diagnosis
Kingbolen Auto Scanner Center what do you call “heavy truck”? Like will this do a Chevy Silverado 1500? Dodge 1500 or Ford F-150?
@@EATSLEEPFARM yes
@@EATSLEEPFARM heavy truck usually means diesel stuff
That GM adapter was used in other countries till around 2002. That is why it is included. Autel includes it too.
I was told that there is a fair amount of code crossover between the Chinese manufacturers. There are no hard and fast rules but in general coverage will be weak on cars older than about 5 years before the tool came out. That's why snap on is so good on the old cars. I keep a classic 'brick' for engine diagnostics on the 90s BMWs no other tool will show oxygen sensor data for me on the pre obd cars.
cool machine Ivan works like a charm thanks for your service
Nice review but you are not comparing apples to apples regarding the Launch and Autel scanner. The Autel scanner you have is old. Now if you bought a new Autel and compared that one to New Launch scanner, then you have a fair comparison. Sorry I just had to say that.
I agree. Should have compared the Diagun with a MaxiSys instead of a DS708.
Great video again! Please let us know if you trust other older cars and what the result is? I have Autel Elite and I tried once on an older one but it didn’t work. Are you saying that it doesn’t work on any previous 96s, what have you heard? And what about your snap on does it? I know the brick will.
What model Autel tool are you comparing to?
thanks for the demo, very informative
Is it a full bi directional control scan tool ? If it's not can you recommend a full bi-directional scan tool scan tool for me
Re Disconning the airbag. I kind of agree given the type of roads you drive on, an unintentional deployment is far more likely to happen. However for normal highway and city driving the probability of injury from shrapnel is way smaller than the benifit it will give in a major crash.
Hey Ivan just saw this awesome scanner review and I am in the market for one does the launch do tpms cloning as easy as the autel scan tool?
You know shit gets real when there's a Wendy's cup next to a Subway cup.
LMAO!
How much is the update and if I don't get the update will the scanner keep working?
Yup it will keep working :)
FYI: Response from seller:
"Hello, launch x431 diagun iv still can work without update after two years later, you just not get the latest software version, it will not affect using."
Note:
If you do want to update it, it'll cost you at least $400/yr.
No,$399/yr
It is a little unfair to compare Autel DS708, where there is new one on the market - DS808.
Pawel Zubrzak agreee
I was about to type the same thing. That 708 isn't even from this era. That's an ancient tool.
I would love for you to do a unboxing and indepth look at the snap on Verus , what you get and how to go though the menu's and how to hook things up , like basic go over of all the basic's
of the verus and different versions. what to look out for if you go to buy one . Have you seen the new snap on ?
The stopping distance on wet, snow, ice is amazingly better with ABS. The difference between collision and not, but if an expensive ABS repair I can understand, but disco a good system is bad decision IMO. Airbag too with no history of bad bags. I had an old girlfriend with bad bags once, had to disco...
I have lived in wet snow and ice all my life. I believe in snow tires and intimately knowing the characteristics of your vehicle in extreme conditions, including practicing maneuvers in a safe environment. The one particular case where ABS fails miserably is coming to a full stop from 5mph in the snow...just keeps chattering until your vehicle is in the middle of the intersection haha
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I live in WV and while going down a mountain with ice and snow the ABS will let your vehicle free wheel. Not good.
And the other 99.5% of the time? And other drivers?
@@JS-qw8hy And when somebody pulls out in front of you and you need a panic stop? ABS to the rescue. I wouldn't disable ABS.
On my 98 contour, with the airbag system, I think it changed from yours. The autel i can access and do stuff with the airbag system.
I need a scanner that works VERY well with older and newer Mercedes-Benz models. Which one do you recommend please?
Do you still use the old Autel, or is it now assigned to gathering dust ?
Thanks for an excellent test. Is it practical or possible to install and use an under-dash switch to cut off the ABS function in situations where you know it does not function well, such as stopping from 5 mph in ice and snow as you described, and the ”free wheeling” down icy mountain roads that the viewer from West Virginia described?
What's the difference between Launch X431 Pro mini & X431 DiagnulV? I am a little confused
Would you recommend the Launch Pro or the Autel 808? Thanks
hey ivan i was wondering what is the different between diagun iv and LAUNCH X431 PROS Mini Bi-Directional Scan Tool Code Reader Car Diagnostic Tool WiFi Bluetooth ECU Coding Oil Reset Injector Key Coding with 2 Years Free Online Update (Advanced Version of PRO Mini)
No big different,pro mini support some car Diagun can not
Is there any subscription costs associated with the Launch? Does it come fully capable for all makes shown?
It works well on popular cars,No subscription costs 2 years free update.
I think a lot of the issues in the smaller units may have to do with the wireless link. Although it is a nice option 90% of the time, the direct cable is almost always faster. There have also been a few "rumors" that for some vehicle access and connection options, the wireless doesn't work, but if you connect it up, it does.
Interesting...
That's a nice wrap up Ivan. I can't believe something so small can do all of that. You and Keith should do some in depth scan tool comparisons because there are so many units out there and you don't want to blow your cash on something lacking. Between the two of you guys I reckon you could come up with a good catalogue of scan tool reviews that would be the go to list......great vid mate. 😉
what's the difference between MaxiCOM MK808 and the MaxiCheck MX808?
Does it work with diesel trucks duramax ect.
The maxisys has the J2534 pass-through device for flashing the cars computer. You can't flash the EEPROM without it and its at least a 500 dollar device and doesn't even include the computer or factory subscriptions needed for the car. Just thought that should be clarified why the autel costs significantly more. My friend has one for his car... if you wan't to program the cars parameters you NEED that device. A lot of people do it because the the factory tune favors emissions but they want better fuel economy and power. Much like the VW scandal.
I am in the market for scan tools and i really liked the review!
hey ivan...good job on the video. I really wish I had found this vid. before I bought the Bosch. cause it is really a nitemare to navigate with. I think I will keep it any way. My family wants me to stop fixing cars and I wonder what they will say when I order the launch. I think they should give a free class on operating it so it would be easier getting started . I am 77 years old and I'm still working on cars. No rocking chair for me. I just wanna say God bless guys like you that give so of yourself.
Choctawman
Are updates mandatory after 2 years or do I just need to update when necessary. 400 bucks for update is a bit pricey for the do it yourselfer.
You do not have to update, the tool keeps working without updates.
@@juergenscholl2843 thanx!
Nice comparo Ivan - good info!
Ivan, does the Launch display Nissan CVT fluid temp? You need it to properly check fluid level. Thanks. 😀
Wrench Spinner yes temp, snap on does fluid when to change.
Nice review Ivan
Eric O of SMA has multiple scanners. Bosch is his new go to not Snapon.
1. Snap on has the scope and is a pro level tool with awesome backend support!!! Yes the update is $1,000 but that’s what $100 per month or 1 hour of labor. That is cheap from my perspective. My snap on D10 has served me well. Got it used off eBay less than 2k with 18.2. Snap on is loaded with things like component testing. That costs money. It my go to scanner.
2. Autel is nice but I personally would not invest in it. My opinion.
3. Launch. It is a great too at $700. It provides a great deal of features for the price.
My view figure out what you want to do first. Am I doing what Ivan doing? Am I just my own DIY. Is my hobby or is this going to be a business for me. Then by the tool you need.
Last there is going to be a big change in how we work, soon.
It is going to be OEM software PC based or 3rd party PC based software with OEM authentication to have by directional options. The cheap unauthorized scanners are done.... The Pico scope is PC based right?
Remember how am I going to use the tool. It will age out in time. Then spend your money wisely.
Money is so easy to spend and hard to earn. Right Ivan?
FCA's introduction of the Secure Gateway proves your point. The OEM's are trying to freeze out all non factory tools.
Autel and Launch already have the authentication software work around in a newer update. So that isn't going to be an issue. Snap-On is WAY overpriced and doesn't do many of the things the Autel and Launch can do.
The only issues I've seen with the Bosch is in the data pids, just like the rest of the OTC/Bosch tools, they don't let you select the ones you want if you go into specific tests.
I agree with you I bought a used like new snap on edge 18.4 for 3k that’s good price for me. I have the Autel Elite with two free years and a pico. I was gonna get the launch 431+ anyone that says snap on is over priced never looked on eBay. Edge on there right now 18.2 for 3k most people who don’t like snap on are DIYers that don’t want to spend the Money so they talk crap. Just like welding and everlast it’s all the same.
The back end stuff like Mitchell, pin outs, built in scope, shop steam all valuable but the DIYers would never know.
Chrysler actually 18/19/20 years need a 14+8 adapter to do bi lateral and it’s behind the radio can’t wait to see the home owner figure that out
So what your saying is buy new Launch Diagun IV & old Snap on brick for OBD1. Unless you need a scope😁
Hi Ivan i have the x431 V and i used it for 92 mitsubishi mighty max and it worked just fine, read codes, live data and clear codes. But for a reazon a couldn't get anything for 2107 Toyota Yaris ia, and i even tried to do it on Mazda since this Toyota is all Mazda
Hey I am planning on buying a launch x431 v+ and the hd version as well wanna know if snap on are autel is better bet
I am with you on the air bags, Had a friend whom hit a car with minor body damage but set of the air bag she was injured by the air bag. It blew her back brusing both are and her chest. She had more injuries from the aie bag than she would have with out the sir bag.
Yeah I don't trust explosive devices it front of my face, especially on the older cars!
Thank you for your time. big thumbs up
Peoples!!!!! The link he has even has optional 3 year warranty. 3 years if it falls in a bucket of antifreeze they replace it with the latest version. How cool is that?
Eric O also mention Launch USA vs non USA. Make sure you can get it warranted if it breaks.
Snapon is $800 max to fix if I ooops it.
Your SO dealer must be a nice guy. SO here doesn't have a limit on repair costs and updates are ridiculous priced.
As for the warranty, the two places most use to buy the launch non-US tools seem to be standing behind them. With a 3 year warranty I wouldn't even blink if a 600.00 unit died after 3 years, when the cost of a new replacement unit is still less than most tools single year updates.
I agree with you. There are going to be an interesting events to come with automotive scanners for cars. They will be PC based software driven scanners. It could come to a point where your authorized scanner might need to contact the OEM to allow you to scan a vehicle. Try to get a security key. If you are not a Locksmith or a VSP. Good luck.
I wonder if this unit has an US version, and Asian copy version?
I bought an X-431 V on Amazon and found out from the US tech support people that it's a Chinese model and they don't support it. They told me that I would have to deal with the seller. NOT GOOD.
I have the new autel mp808, the diagon v, and the verus 1st generation, and the verdict so far they all are my go to. I also have a gm tech 2 and a modis eetms300 I'm not to sure on those yet I have yet to use them. I got the autel and the diagon v after seeing your videos and danners and Keith so far love the video and the tools. They been awesome and I made some money with them to.
I see that your Launch shows updates available. Wondering if test results would be different after updating?
it would be work more fast
At this point why can't we just buy the software? What else is it, a bluetooth dongle and a android device BTW: $639 if you use Ivans link...
The real question is will it work on 2015-2019 vehicles with all the cross traffic alert systems and programming key FOBs on the newer vehicles. My oldest vehicle is a 2004 so all the OBD I stuff I really could care less about.
Launch X431 Diagun IV can do programming key FOBs on the newer vehicles but need pin codes.
@@kingbolen_official what about all the rest of the newer systems? Like driver alert module testing, parking sensor testing. Radar function testing. I buy new salavge vehicles, fix them and flip them. So I need something that works on new cars not old cars.
@@JohnColeman-ul5rj Hi,all features here Calibration service/relearn, full bidirectional control,key programming,graph capability and cover capability.
Does the tool have a vin bar code scan with camera also , on my Maximus 3,0 older vehicles that capability is so so . But also presents manual input so you can just type in the vehicle . Found on older fords, that ids does have the power balance on , the launch has trouble with , but does work on newer models very well . But curious if a manual entry present might of gave you access to the 92 GM . If available on that tool .Great video Ivan .
Thanks, Doug!
i have a 95 transport i use a Actron CP9190 Elite AutoScanner ...its great as you know the 95 is a obd2 with a obd1 plug that has no 12 volts in it so i power the scan tool with a cig plug ...the weak spot on that 3800 is the egr valve an the o2 sens
Launch displays 1/2 the modules are disconnected on the Suzuki driver is in control @ all times 👍
Aww I feel kind of sad for the AUTEL...thank you for this review Ivan! I love the fact it brings a dongle with no cables. At 0:52 what does that "Common" brand selection chart is for? It also Includes Suzuki... is it for regular OBD2 and not for EOBD? Is it true you get free updates with this tool? Because the Autel Updates price for the MaxiSYS Elite cost a Kidney!
Argeny Sandoval that Autel is garbage it’s old. The new elite runs circles around the 708. The Elite gets two years free
@@weldingjunkie Sorry but I have to disagree with you, it is not garbage, I had it for years and I see that still does amazing things in european cars by just watching Ivan using it, I own the MaxiSYS Elite that comes with the J2534 right know and is a state of the art tool.
Argeny Sandoval understandable I had the 708 it was my first scanner it’s good for older cars it’s obsolete in general. I also have the Autel Elite with j2 box as well and the Elite has 10x the functions. I also have a Snap On Edge 18.4 and a pico 4425 I guess my point is you need all of them but I wouldn’t run out and buy a used 708... you telling me you would?
@@weldingjunkie You totally right mate! I would not buy one neither used or new.
What is different between diagun and non-diagun,,,these launch's are getting confusing.
Just ordered mine!!!
Can I turn off ABS with a Launch?
You can clear it yes
Hi Ivan, nice review, I have the Launch x431 V+ and the Verus, I find the launch more useful than the snap on, and value for money with its free updates the Launch is a lot better than snap on. It is cheaper to buy a new Launch when my free updates have expired rather than pay to update the verus, also did you mention the coding capabilities of the Launch? I sell and repair used cars,in the UK, and as an example I have just programmed a brand new key into a VW Polo using the Launch, something which my Verus won't get near. I have now also brought a 2 channel Pico, making the verus my very second choice now. Granted I only sell newer European cars so diagnosing a 1992 Oldsmobile wont bother me!
Is there a "tool only" option? I would never need OBD1 capability.
@Todd Orton was it $100 or so less? Saw one on line, $520 + $46 to ship from China. Amazon, free shipping $639. Worth the extra to me to go with Amazon. Looks really great for a shop or DIYer (like me).
Interesting stuff Ivan, one thing that might be of interest is that I have an Encore and it will read my 1990 K1500 Chevy.
u have program immobilizer
Ivan , Don't you think it's time to get a new truck?
Do you want to sell your old launch scanner? If so how much?
Those sillouhettes are fast thx Ivan
Especially running on all 6 cylinders haha
I thought OBD connectors started in 1996. So how the heck is it possible with the 92
OBD2 started in 96, before that there was OBD1. There were diagnostic connectors on cars in the 70s (Some cars) and the 80s.
yep its me no shit! You mean that they had computers in the cars then?
I wish you had shown us the snap on on the old gm