Re: the PTSD Kirby stuff that Ed mentions. A couple of years ago I was invited to an inaugural Comics festival at Castle Malbrouck on the French/German border which featured the work of Kirby & his connection to the place. The folks organizing the museum in the castle, were touting the battle of Castle Malbrouck as a divergence point for comics history. The story they told was that Kirby and his small unit of American GI's stumbled on a Nazi stronghold. They decided to liberate the place, and Kirby was injured fighting during the siege, then shipped home afterward. The remainder of his unit was then sent to Bastone where most if not all were killed. Kirby goes home and makes comics at an insane clip as if he's trying to earn the time he was granted. Anyway, it was a cool thing to get to be a part of and a pretty bad ass story even if it's embellished. And it lines up with the PTSD stuff that I've also always suspected had a hand in that massive body of work.
just binged these wizard eps over the past couple weeks. great to have on while drawing and looking up when you need to. I hope you guys do at least one more year of Wizard stuff!
I was at the Short Run Comix & Arts Festival in Seattle yesterday, and they showed a really interesting documentary about Jim Woodring. It's a really good interview at his studio. I hope it becomes more widely available. Gary Groth introduced the film and said that he got a copy of Woodring's zine Jim, which wasn't comics, but was a black and white collection of paintings, illustrations, and short stories. Groth reached out to asked if he wanted to make comics, and so he did.
Spider-Man Clone Saga was my first comic heartbreak . This is when I bailed hard on Spider-Man and hated everything about it except that Ben Reilly costume. That shit was dope!!
Hell yea,got a stack of comics I dug out of the quarter bins. A big can of Surge and a new Wizard video! THank you guys for making this a great Sunday morning.
That's wild about The Shadow's look being created from fan letters! Never heard that. Fun fact on Welles, while he was doing The Shadow show he claims he was so busy that he read the script for the first time while they were airing it. I swear a lot of his dramatic pauses are just him trying to gauge how to read a line so it fits the story. He's so great though (theater training!) that he pulls it off.
I’d love for you guys to do a video on Baxter paper. I know it was sold as a real step-up in the presentation of comic books when DC started using it, but the examples I’ve looked at always seem a little off... especially those reprints of classic titles.
Never knew about that Kirby tribute and really enjoyed that. Also, I’ll send Ed an email about breaking the “Duck Code”. One of the, if not the, guy who figured out Barks paased away a bit ago, and I just happened to read his obit.
I remember a lot of people being upset with the change in Captain America too. Ron Garney and Mark Waid were the creative there I think, and apparently there was some strong support for what they were doing. - Jim
Marvels II didn't come out, but they did years later do "Marvels: Eye of the Camera" as a sequel and it is also good, not as good, but still a decent read. Also in a similar vein they later did "Marvel 1985" which is a fun series that reminds me a lot of Marvels.
The Kitchen Sink/Tundra joint company was sold to that financial institution, and Denis Kitchen stayed until he couldn't bear it. There was a Will Eisner art exhibit touring Europe for Eisner's 100th Anniversary, and Kitchen came here to Portugal in November, I got to interview him at his table. He told me the investors wanted to make money from movies and wanted it now, so they bailed after a couple of years. Kitchen remained as literary agent and art dealer for Will Eisner and other classic cartoonists, and took up publishing ventures at other publishers, such as Eisner new GNs at Dark Horse and a collection of his classic material at DC.
I remember Marvel Legends figures used to come with reprints of old comics. I read the first appearances of Iron Man, Hulk, and Luke Cage when I bought the figures. Come to think of it, those were some of my first comics aside from school book fair stuff. All things that were not my LCS lol.
The extended feud between Don Thompson and the Comics Journal is just hilarious. The relevant issues of TCJ with savage ridicule and reviews by Groth, Thompson or Fiore are worth the time if you have a sub to the Journal. Thompson was one of the founders of Comics Fandom and a significant figure, which is how he and Maggie were columnists in the Buyer's Guide and later took over from Alan Light as editors, but he was also a champion and apologist for the status quo and dismissive of a lot of alternative stuff, so he was basically just asking for a challenge.
The documentary mentioned around 19 min in doesn't seem to actually be available/distributed. It is still only appearing in film festivals even after a couple years.
I started working in animation a couple of years ago and got talking to an older dude about previous work, turns out he worked on the sprites for Maximum Carnage amongst many other things. I looked onto buying it but sweet jesus that's still an expensive game.
The Captain America cover WAS controversial. People didn't want to enter WWII and Nazi sympathizers sent them death threats! The mayor of New York loved the comic and told them personally that they'd be protected. Once, a bunch of goons showed up at the office threatening them about Cap and Kirby reportedly rolled up his sleeves and went down to fight (but the jerks were already gone).
I was into comics for like 2 years before clone saga hit and us young kids ate that shit up, every single kid that doodled in school was doing Scarlet Spider and Kaine
Question: Anyone know which issue of Wizard featured the parody cover of Invisibles--"The End of the World or a Cat on a Bowling Ball?" I've been trying to track this image down for years now.
Stan Lee walked in, called the executives True Believers, mentioned that he created Spider-Man and the X-Men, dropped an Excelsior, and then they gave him a bag of money and hired his wife.
Another great episode, Ed & Jim! I have a suggestion regarding the collage background you use on your videos. Have you considered placing a piece of tracing paper or vellum paper over the collage? Visually speaking, it might possibly make the Wizard magazine stand out even more from the background. Just an idea. I love the channel & keep up the amazing content.
25:54 Yeah that's why everyone hated it and/or never gave it a chance. I didn't really either tbh. I hated the idea that the Peter Parker of our generation & the 1 before was a fake. That it had been a clone for the last 25 years didn't set right with me.
Zero Hour is the beginning of DC's self inflicted Syshphean task of trying to 'fix' their continuity when they should just realise it changes but they keep trying to step into the same river again. If Superman has green hair in one comic and he doesn't in the next just make sure they're better stories than the one where it turns out one's from an alternative time line or he just dyes his hair.
I donated to the kicksarter for this documentary because one of the stretch goals would allow him to settle his case in Florida so he could reenter the state and visit his family. The documentary hasn't been released yet.
I just realized there was a second volume to that Hellshock series about a year ago and finally tracked them down to read. What a huge disappointment. He didn't appear with his iconic face make up once. The covers were so misleading. And they followed the doctors story more than his. Also, would love to see some Amazing Heroes or fanzine coverage. And minis. Maybe that Treasury of Mini Comics from Fanta with your commentary.
Any Kayfaber's here got any good religious comics? Specifically Catholic comics. And I don't mean those Marvel comics Pope St John Paul II joints (though I would LOVE to find that one lol) but stories of sci-fi, superhero, etc with religious themes. Been looking for stuff like that. English or Spanish.
which one of you did the sly fart during the Evil Ernie bit ( th-cam.com/video/JLjryKq4ZLk/w-d-xo.html )? Was quiet but still audible. I have spotted this video's "easter egg" - I accept my prize of a page of original art from each of you!
Owner of multiple Hellshock trading cards as consolation prizes for fundamentally misunderstanding Image's business model and submitting a bunch of shitty art hoping for a salaried position aged 15.
"Suicide Run" was the Punisher run with all the different Punishers. Keep up the great work guys!
Re: the PTSD Kirby stuff that Ed mentions. A couple of years ago I was invited to an inaugural Comics festival at Castle Malbrouck on the French/German border which featured the work of Kirby & his connection to the place.
The folks organizing the museum in the castle, were touting the battle of Castle Malbrouck as a divergence point for comics history. The story they told was that Kirby and his small unit of American GI's stumbled on a Nazi stronghold. They decided to liberate the place, and Kirby was injured fighting during the siege, then shipped home afterward. The remainder of his unit was then sent to Bastone where most if not all were killed. Kirby goes home and makes comics at an insane clip as if he's trying to earn the time he was granted.
Anyway, it was a cool thing to get to be a part of and a pretty bad ass story even if it's embellished. And it lines up with the PTSD stuff that I've also always suspected had a hand in that massive body of work.
That Maximum carnage ad is Bill Sienkiewicz!!
Really? That's cool!
Ed: read Morrison's Invisibles!
Brian Kalisz YESSSSS 🔴
I second that. It's daunting but it might be my favorite run on comics .
And be sure to read the issues instead of the trades. The letters page was phenomenal!
The story about Leifeld, Youngblood 7, and his attempt to give depth o the characters is hilariously priceless! Thanks!
just binged these wizard eps over the past couple weeks. great to have on while drawing and looking up when you need to. I hope you guys do at least one more year of Wizard stuff!
I’ve listened to so many of these and this one is just really great! Love you Jim and Ed!
I was at the Short Run Comix & Arts Festival in Seattle yesterday, and they showed a really interesting documentary about Jim Woodring. It's a really good interview at his studio. I hope it becomes more widely available. Gary Groth introduced the film and said that he got a copy of Woodring's zine Jim, which wasn't comics, but was a black and white collection of paintings, illustrations, and short stories. Groth reached out to asked if he wanted to make comics, and so he did.
Spider-Man Clone Saga was my first comic heartbreak . This is when I bailed hard on Spider-Man and hated everything about it except that Ben Reilly costume. That shit was dope!!
Hell yea,got a stack of comics I dug out of the quarter bins. A big can of Surge and a new Wizard video! THank you guys for making this a great Sunday morning.
That's wild about The Shadow's look being created from fan letters! Never heard that. Fun fact on Welles, while he was doing The Shadow show he claims he was so busy that he read the script for the first time while they were airing it. I swear a lot of his dramatic pauses are just him trying to gauge how to read a line so it fits the story. He's so great though (theater training!) that he pulls it off.
I’d love for you guys to do a video on Baxter paper. I know it was sold as a real step-up in the presentation of comic books when DC started using it, but the examples I’ve looked at always seem a little off... especially those reprints of classic titles.
Never knew about that Kirby tribute and really enjoyed that. Also, I’ll send Ed an email about breaking the “Duck Code”. One of the, if not the, guy who figured out Barks paased away a bit ago, and I just happened to read his obit.
I like Ed's thoughts on Jack Kirby's war experience and how it may have affected his art production. 56:44
I wish more people would do retrospectives on Paul Ryan, he feels so underlooked, awesome stuff from him.
I remember a lot of people being upset with the change in Captain America too. Ron Garney and Mark Waid were the creative there I think, and apparently there was some strong support for what they were doing. - Jim
@@CartoonistKayfabe I heard that run was good!
Marvels II didn't come out, but they did years later do "Marvels: Eye of the Camera" as a sequel and it is also good, not as good, but still a decent read. Also in a similar vein they later did "Marvel 1985" which is a fun series that reminds me a lot of Marvels.
The Kitchen Sink/Tundra joint company was sold to that financial institution, and Denis Kitchen stayed until he couldn't bear it. There was a Will Eisner art exhibit touring Europe for Eisner's 100th Anniversary, and Kitchen came here to Portugal in November, I got to interview him at his table. He told me the investors wanted to make money from movies and wanted it now, so they bailed after a couple of years. Kitchen remained as literary agent and art dealer for Will Eisner and other classic cartoonists, and took up publishing ventures at other publishers, such as Eisner new GNs at Dark Horse and a collection of his classic material at DC.
I remember Marvel Legends figures used to come with reprints of old comics. I read the first appearances of Iron Man, Hulk, and Luke Cage when I bought the figures. Come to think of it, those were some of my first comics aside from school book fair stuff. All things that were not my LCS lol.
The extended feud between Don Thompson and the Comics Journal is just hilarious. The relevant issues of TCJ with savage ridicule and reviews by Groth, Thompson or Fiore are worth the time if you have a sub to the Journal. Thompson was one of the founders of Comics Fandom and a significant figure, which is how he and Maggie were columnists in the Buyer's Guide and later took over from Alan Light as editors, but he was also a champion and apologist for the status quo and dismissive of a lot of alternative stuff, so he was basically just asking for a challenge.
The documentary mentioned around 19 min in doesn't seem to actually be available/distributed. It is still only appearing in film festivals even after a couple years.
Doc was really good, and terrifying
Not sure what Compuserve's rates were, but at this time, AOL charged users $6/hour. I think you got five free hours a month.
I started working in animation a couple of years ago and got talking to an older dude about previous work, turns out he worked on the sprites for Maximum Carnage amongst many other things. I looked onto buying it but sweet jesus that's still an expensive game.
The Captain America cover WAS controversial. People didn't want to enter WWII and Nazi sympathizers sent them death threats! The mayor of New York loved the comic and told them personally that they'd be protected.
Once, a bunch of goons showed up at the office threatening them about Cap and Kirby reportedly rolled up his sleeves and went down to fight (but the jerks were already gone).
Cap and the King: the original Antifa!
I was into comics for like 2 years before clone saga hit and us young kids ate that shit up, every single kid that doodled in school was doing Scarlet Spider and Kaine
The Chaykin 4-issue Shadow is well worth a look...
Question: Anyone know which issue of Wizard featured the parody cover of Invisibles--"The End of the World or a Cat on a Bowling Ball?" I've been trying to track this image down for years now.
More wizard reviews please!
Stan Lee walked in, called the executives True Believers, mentioned that he created Spider-Man and the X-Men, dropped an Excelsior, and then they gave him a bag of money and hired his wife.
I have a few Mike Kaluta DC Shadow comics from the 1970's.
Another great episode, Ed & Jim! I have a suggestion regarding the collage background you use on your videos.
Have you considered placing a piece of tracing paper or vellum paper over the collage? Visually speaking, it might possibly make the Wizard magazine stand out even more from the background.
Just an idea. I love the channel & keep up the amazing content.
I was in the very last fan awards in CBG. I was second place for my webcomic Punching the Clock.
There's an upcoming issue of Wizard that has a more in-depth story about Mike Diana.
The Carnage aD IS BILL SIENKIEWiCZ im pretty sure
I subscribed to Wizard and got the Spider-Man cover.
25:54 Yeah that's why everyone hated it and/or never gave it a chance. I didn't really either tbh. I hated the idea that the Peter Parker of our generation & the 1 before was a fake. That it had been a clone for the last 25 years didn't set right with me.
Zero Hour is the beginning of DC's self inflicted Syshphean task of trying to 'fix' their continuity when they should just realise it changes but they keep trying to step into the same river again.
If Superman has green hair in one comic and he doesn't in the next just make sure they're better stories than the one where it turns out one's from an alternative time line or he just dyes his hair.
The comics that came with MOTU toys were better than the MOTU Marvel comic books that they charged people for. Crazy, but true!
I had the Spiderman cover! Loved this mag when I was a kid. I had that Liefeld cover as a poster on my wall.
Hellshock: forgettable story, amazing art
Any chance someone has a link to the Mike Diana doc?
I donated to the kicksarter for this documentary because one of the stretch goals would allow him to settle his case in Florida so he could reenter the state and visit his family. The documentary hasn't been released yet.
I just realized there was a second volume to that Hellshock series about a year ago and finally tracked them down to read. What a huge disappointment. He didn't appear with his iconic face make up once. The covers were so misleading. And they followed the doctors story more than his.
Also, would love to see some Amazing Heroes or fanzine coverage. And minis. Maybe that Treasury of Mini Comics from Fanta with your commentary.
Any Kayfaber's here got any good religious comics? Specifically Catholic comics. And I don't mean those Marvel comics Pope St John Paul II joints (though I would LOVE to find that one lol) but stories of sci-fi, superhero, etc with religious themes. Been looking for stuff like that. English or Spanish.
Look up the Spire Comics imprint from the 70's to the 80's. Then look up Christian Comics International.
which one of you did the sly fart during the Evil Ernie bit ( th-cam.com/video/JLjryKq4ZLk/w-d-xo.html )? Was quiet but still audible. I have spotted this video's "easter egg" - I accept my prize of a page of original art from each of you!
Owner of multiple Hellshock trading cards as consolation prizes for fundamentally misunderstanding Image's business model and submitting a bunch of shitty art hoping for a salaried position aged 15.
Boiled Angels doc trailer:
th-cam.com/video/Lo5vN-fNr1A/w-d-xo.html