She Definitely Scores Better then Tenebrion Because Of Grouping In QTE To Stop Mobs From Running Away Which Is Always An Issue in Warzone. Thank You For Showing Us The Potential Of The Alternative Dark Tank!
Yeah 21 is good for grouping in warzone which is good but her dmg sucks when Luna has down lime on her orbs using 21 is a pain so I just prefer to solo with Luna while 21 and Vera support her while tenbrion just does great damage and better debuff
Love the explanation! I prefer using Kamui because I already have him built but I just know that 21 is better for warzone. I know because people often talked about it but never really knew why exactly so this video really helps!
Getting 21 to sss doesn't seem that hard. She is a rank, so get 1 with only 10 basic summons every time you have tickets or possibly as a side effect of pulling for a s rank plus 30 from the event plus interlude Also, she is more fun than kamui, and she is cuter and has a psycho laugh too 21 > kamui
This is good comparison guide. so far all the guide focus on paper stats, this gives us a clear view of how character perform in real use situation. Very good info. Appreciate it.
For np 21 to be better you need her at SSS and above while kamui can be good at S and hiss SS just make him better even if he don't have grouping and bigger aoe his damage and shredding mame it out and I heard that WZ will be changed to be only bosses so then kamui will really shine
Tene yellow is so annoying, but I need a man in my team, oh wait, Any advice for mem reso for Kimochi kata Sig, core, tank ? Currently have 6 core lmao, but I think sig or tank role, anyway help?
Im new to this game. I have both of them. Kamui s and 21 ss. And i overall didn't understand about this game. So i build both of em. And i dont have a dark dps. Which one should i use for main dps? #sorry my english is bad
Do you perhaps have Astral? Astral is the A rank DPS character for dark team if you by any chance don't have Luna. If you're using Astral, instead of 21 Kamui is preferred due to dmg and orbs consumptions issues. 21 can't really be a DPS unless you have her at really high rank (SSS/SSS+) and 6* weapon.
21 cuz her on field DMG skyrockets when she has her Sig (you need her Sig for her to be worth using on the field basically) The only thing left to do with your 21 is to get her SSS (maybe SSS+ if you have nothing to grind on Interludes) Dark Karen will null all of these older choices but it's your call
i end up pulling selena to SSS , and using cottie and seraphione for her , luna will be using darwin and flamel , do you have any suggestion for 21's memory set? ill be using her until karenina come to global
Hi, I'm on fence about skipping Flare, as I already have built Chrome Arclight, especially since I plan on S+'ing Noah in future... Can I expect similar video comparing the two lightning tanks in future? Thank you!
From what I understand. Flare doesn't work like the way Arclight did, he is strong don't get me wrong. But most A rank are still below S Base Rank. And in this case, Vera act as more of semi-DPS & semi-Tank while Chrome only as a Tank(tho he's quite good on S+ as 2nd DPS). I can't really explain it quite well, but here's some list Flare + Side + Big Burst, even Veritas is outdamage by her. Flare is even go to for PPC + she doesn't really in need of her weapon, which is nice. Unlike other S Base Rank Tank like Rosetta and Chrome and only need SS + you go for Core Passive Reso. So you deal a really high dmg burst, it's suitable for 2nd DPS rotation team + You get a really nice Owner as a dog 🐕 - Side - since you go for Core Passive Reso, it's kinda awkward. But she deals tons of dmg anyway Arclight + Side + Easier to get, cheaper + Good early tanks and solid if it's S3 above + Your Mems Reso is Tank so it's not as awkward as Vera + Really caring mama for taking care of you - Side - not suitable for 2nd DPS role, unless S3/S+ - high maintenance ^^ - his DPS set is awkward since you can't stack Heisen -Elemental resist so your choice is DV set on him and full buff Mems on Liv and go Veritas solo without rotation Well, there's might more to list. But that's all I got. Just get both of them since you have the ability to do so. And then pair both of Vera and Chrome for High level content that require full lightning team in case you don't like Veritas. Since Vera can't go Tank class reso, Chrome can cover that
If you don't care for meta, go for it, but your team will underperform MASSIVELY. If you want to build the best Noah team you would probably do either Lux, Flare, Noah (SSS or higher) so Lux can buff both Flare and Noah, or maybe even Flare, Selena Tempest (SSS or higher), Noah (SSS or higher) so you have 3 dps and less debuff for using Transcendents with normal consntructs, but as you can see flare is like the center piece, she gives resistance shred and dishes out the highest DPS on these teams, so she ends up being a core component of lightning
In this video I see, that you make a comparison, not objective when using it in WZ, you put the dedicated set of tenbrion, worth the redundancy while tenebrion has his weapon of 6 with resonation, vs the 5 without resonation in the memories let's not talk about hypertune? I still liked the video my hand up is yours
My bias was all along towards 21 and her capabilities. So in order to reduce chances of her scoring way better I just chose to stick with a f2p build. The footage you saw has flaws yes, both runs. From many of the runs I had recorded I decided to choose these mostly because in terms of mistakes they were very similar. If you want an average of how much it took me for both is around 40min for tenebrion and 10min for 21.
@@Atsusge I only saw the discrepancies in your comparison, I just wanted to emphasize them to you. Personally, I want to have Tenbrion and 21. I think they can be very good together with Luna
Yes, darkzone and SS luna max weapon reso. Points usually vary depending on the week. If you wanna know exactly how I score high with low investment I'm working now on a warzone guide for each zone. I'll explain everything I know and things you need to know in order to achieve such scores.
@@vitorhiinosoares4714 and he's an S rank you can farm him as well to SS rank just like any other S based Characters It's unfair Because 21 is on SSS, while Tenebrion is still S rank (based S rank) SSS 21 have shield shredding and reduce enemies dark resistances While Tenebrion S rank (base) need SS if you want those Shield shredding, damage buff, and reduce enemies dark resistances You already see how powerful he is when he actually get SS on this video, so yes it's an unfair comparison using S base rank But if Tenebrion is SS then 21 need more rank up, resonance and possibly hypertunes if you want a better damage than him Then SS > SSS-sSs+ 21 SSS-sSs+ Tenebrion >>>> SSS-sSs+ 21 But if you play Babel I suggest you to play with 21 because she a survival type Characters, she has good amount of shield, no stagger if you get hit she can immediately stand up and fight back Unlike Tenebrion, you need orbs to make you stay on Dark Forms, while he can't just spam orbs like 21 who always get her orbs more faster especially on ult mode So yes, it also depend on the place as well, Tenebrion is really powerful on PPC Because of his damage, damage reduction, shield shredding, and reduce enemies dark resistances While 21 good at WZ because she trapped and pull the enemies in one place so you can deal more damage to all of them at the same time But when you reach single enemy boss you can put Tenebrion there to deal a lot of damage for your DPS I use both of them and let Vera have some vacation to Venus Park 😂
She Definitely Scores Better then Tenebrion Because Of Grouping In QTE To Stop Mobs From Running Away Which Is Always An Issue in Warzone. Thank You For Showing Us The Potential Of The Alternative Dark Tank!
Yeah 21 is good for grouping in warzone which is good but her dmg sucks when Luna has down lime on her orbs using 21 is a pain so I just prefer to solo with Luna while 21 and Vera support her while tenbrion just does great damage and better debuff
@@chiboy5567 that's true mate
Love the explanation! I prefer using Kamui because I already have him built but I just know that 21 is better for warzone. I know because people often talked about it but never really knew why exactly so this video really helps!
So tldr,
ppc & wz: SS Kamui > SSS 21
ppc: S kamui > SSS 21 (longer qte means longer da vinci buff)
wz: S kamui < SSS 21 (shorter qte means faster double qte)(bigger shred AoE too)
Getting 21 to sss doesn't seem that hard. She is a rank, so get 1 with only 10 basic summons every time you have tickets or possibly as a side effect of pulling for a s rank plus 30 from the event plus interlude
Also, she is more fun than kamui, and she is cuter and has a psycho laugh too
21 > kamui
This is good comparison guide. so far all the guide focus on paper stats, this gives us a clear view of how character perform in real use situation. Very good info. Appreciate it.
For np 21 to be better you need her at SSS and above while kamui can be good at S and hiss SS just make him better even if he don't have grouping and bigger aoe his damage and shredding mame it out
and I heard that WZ will be changed to be only bosses so then kamui will really shine
This is really nice. Thanks for the video!
I like the analysis after the gameplay ty
Man, i would like to see a SSS+ Kamui, would be insane!
Man, that trails of cold steel III hits different
nice video man :0
thank you for explaining ! maybe my Dark team performance can go up in wz now uwu
Nice music
I have S Kamui rn and planning to SS him. Is that worth it? Or should I stick to XXI?
just seeing this n rralize how un optimal I've been playing luna
The only reason why most ppl including me wouldn't run 21 over Teneb is because they have his sig 1 reso
Tene yellow is so annoying, but I need a man in my team, oh wait,
Any advice for mem reso for Kimochi kata
Sig, core, tank ? Currently have 6 core lmao, but I think sig or tank role, anyway help?
Class for tanks is the way to go. The extra damage reduction provided, boosts not only his dmg but also the entire team.
Im new to this game. I have both of them. Kamui s and 21 ss. And i overall didn't understand about this game. So i build both of em. And i dont have a dark dps. Which one should i use for main dps?
#sorry my english is bad
Do you perhaps have Astral?
Astral is the A rank DPS character for dark team if you by any chance don't have Luna. If you're using Astral, instead of 21 Kamui is preferred due to dmg and orbs consumptions issues.
21 can't really be a DPS unless you have her at really high rank (SSS/SSS+) and 6* weapon.
i got both Kamui at S and 21 at S but i also got by accident 21's sig weapon which should I build
21 cuz her on field DMG skyrockets when she has her Sig (you need her Sig for her to be worth using on the field basically)
The only thing left to do with your 21 is to get her SSS (maybe SSS+ if you have nothing to grind on Interludes)
Dark Karen will null all of these older choices but it's your call
i end up pulling selena to SSS , and using cottie and seraphione for her , luna will be using darwin and flamel , do you have any suggestion for 21's memory set? ill be using her until karenina come to global
Can SSS 21 do good instead of dark karenina for f2p?
Expect a new video soon where I explain anything related to 21, Tenebrion and dark karen.
Hi, I'm on fence about skipping Flare, as I already have built Chrome Arclight, especially since I plan on S+'ing Noah in future... Can I expect similar video comparing the two lightning tanks in future? Thank you!
From what I understand. Flare doesn't work like the way Arclight did, he is strong don't get me wrong. But most A rank are still below S Base Rank. And in this case, Vera act as more of semi-DPS & semi-Tank while Chrome only as a Tank(tho he's quite good on S+ as 2nd DPS). I can't really explain it quite well, but here's some list
Flare
+ Side
+ Big Burst, even Veritas is outdamage by her. Flare is even go to for PPC
+ she doesn't really in need of her weapon, which is nice. Unlike other S Base Rank Tank like Rosetta and Chrome and only need SS
+ you go for Core Passive Reso. So you deal a really high dmg burst, it's suitable for 2nd DPS rotation team
+ You get a really nice Owner as a dog 🐕
- Side
- since you go for Core Passive Reso, it's kinda awkward. But she deals tons of dmg anyway
Arclight
+ Side
+ Easier to get, cheaper
+ Good early tanks and solid if it's S3 above
+ Your Mems Reso is Tank so it's not as awkward as Vera
+ Really caring mama for taking care of you
- Side
- not suitable for 2nd DPS role, unless S3/S+
- high maintenance ^^
- his DPS set is awkward since you can't stack Heisen -Elemental resist so your choice is DV set on him and full buff Mems on Liv and go Veritas solo without rotation
Well, there's might more to list. But that's all I got. Just get both of them since you have the ability to do so. And then pair both of Vera and Chrome for High level content that require full lightning team in case you don't like Veritas. Since Vera can't go Tank class reso, Chrome can cover that
Flare so far is carrying lightning team on her back and it's the strongest member on it.
flare is leaps and bounds ahead of arclight, without flare your noan is gonna do awfully
I’m only playing this game because Flare exists
If you don't care for meta, go for it, but your team will underperform MASSIVELY. If you want to build the best Noah team you would probably do either Lux, Flare, Noah (SSS or higher) so Lux can buff both Flare and Noah, or maybe even Flare, Selena Tempest (SSS or higher), Noah (SSS or higher) so you have 3 dps and less debuff for using Transcendents with normal consntructs, but as you can see flare is like the center piece, she gives resistance shred and dishes out the highest DPS on these teams, so she ends up being a core component of lightning
Are you using sariel for vera? What are the resonance of healer 6star weapons?
All resonances, memories, weapons and pets are what you can see in the video before the fight starts at 0:09 and 2:30.
man i need to get better at this game
In this video I see, that you make a comparison, not objective when using it in WZ, you put the dedicated set of tenbrion, worth the redundancy while tenebrion has his weapon of 6 with resonation, vs the 5 without resonation in the memories let's not talk about hypertune? I still liked the video my hand up is yours
My bias was all along towards 21 and her capabilities. So in order to reduce chances of her scoring way better I just chose to stick with a f2p build.
The footage you saw has flaws yes, both runs. From many of the runs I had recorded I decided to choose these mostly because in terms of mistakes they were very similar.
If you want an average of how much it took me for both is around 40min for tenebrion and 10min for 21.
@@Atsusge I only saw the discrepancies in your comparison, I just wanted to emphasize them to you. Personally, I want to have Tenbrion and 21. I think they can be very good together with Luna
Is this gameplay on warzone darkmode? The points is too high for a s class Luna.
Yes, darkzone and SS luna max weapon reso. Points usually vary depending on the week.
If you wanna know exactly how I score high with low investment I'm working now on a warzone guide for each zone. I'll explain everything I know and things you need to know in order to achieve such scores.
@@Atsusge nice! 👌
Oi u got a channel :kek:
SSS+ vs S
of course she will be better than him
This comparison is unfair
But she's an A Rank, you can farm her for free.
@@vitorhiinosoares4714 and he's an S rank you can farm him as well to SS rank just like any other S based Characters
It's unfair Because 21 is on SSS, while Tenebrion is still S rank (based S rank)
SSS 21 have shield shredding and reduce enemies dark resistances
While Tenebrion S rank (base) need SS if you want those Shield shredding, damage buff, and reduce enemies dark resistances
You already see how powerful he is when he actually get SS on this video, so yes it's an unfair comparison using S base rank
But if Tenebrion is SS then 21 need more rank up, resonance and possibly hypertunes if you want a better damage than him
Then SS > SSS-sSs+ 21
SSS-sSs+ Tenebrion >>>> SSS-sSs+ 21
But if you play Babel I suggest you to play with 21 because she a survival type Characters, she has good amount of shield, no stagger if you get hit she can immediately stand up and fight back
Unlike Tenebrion, you need orbs to make you stay on Dark Forms, while he can't just spam orbs like 21 who always get her orbs more faster especially on ult mode
So yes, it also depend on the place as well, Tenebrion is really powerful on PPC Because of his damage, damage reduction, shield shredding, and reduce enemies dark resistances
While 21 good at WZ because she trapped and pull the enemies in one place so you can deal more damage to all of them at the same time
But when you reach single enemy boss you can put Tenebrion there to deal a lot of damage for your DPS
I use both of them and let Vera have some vacation to Venus Park 😂
🅱enis
I see some Glooo🅱la players in the comments
Why should a human with literally more than 10 iq get SS of a tank/sup when it's s based and Ur attacker is more important lmao
10 iq comment:
@@knnccb_ a whale comment with under 10iq: