TIPS vs I Bonds: What's Better In 2023 | Treasury-Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS 2023)

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  • @DiamondNestEgg
    @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +13

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    • @danielfischer4304
      @danielfischer4304 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Assuming that i-bonds in May will have a close to zero inflation rate, and assuming you don't want to cash out your older than 1 year i-bond that has a 0% fixed rate, wouldn't it be a good idea for you to sell that old 0% fixed rate i-bond after the 3 months it will be earning the close to 0% inflation rate and buy instead a new i-bond that will most probably have a >0% fixed rate (also assuming tax implications are not an issue)?

    • @deepan1981
      @deepan1981 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, I have a query with TreasuryDirect 2 factor authentication. Is it possible to have a 2FA ON treasurydirect website? Could you point me to the YT video you may have made?

  • @CheapRVliving
    @CheapRVliving ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My goodness, you are good at this! I'm 67 so it's an easy choice for me. I should get a big tax return so I have already directed my CPA to spend 10,000 of it on I-Bonds. It's a great choice for me, and I understand it (mostly) because of you. Many thanks!

    • @TheAzmountaineer
      @TheAzmountaineer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't miss out on the extra $5000 you can invest with a tax return!

  • @michaelavery3964
    @michaelavery3964 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I've spent so many hours with you, you're basically my best friend now ☺️ (also, I really appreciate your meticulous breakdown of things, complete with charts, and your personal 'take' on things. It's exactly the information I'm looking for)

    • @daj4740
      @daj4740 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL🤣🤣🤣... That's how I feel too! Jennifer is an informative and trusted friend through all of her helpful videos.

  • @jsilverback3795
    @jsilverback3795 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Something interesting. Treasury Direct does not send you a 1099 (if you have redeemed something). You have to go there to get your tax information. If something happened to me, I am not sure my wife would think to do that. Others may benefit from knowing that problem.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have a video on this coming out shortly

  • @wendyz5966
    @wendyz5966 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best thing I like to do recently is refreshing your channel to see if any new video comes! You make all this complicated knowledge so easy to understand even for someone like me who has no financial background and speaks another language. Love your channel!

  • @Lukionest
    @Lukionest ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great analysis. When you post more videos about TIPS, I'd appreciate some info on the strategic differences, advantages, and disadvantages of buying individual TIPS vs. a TIPS fund or ETF.

  • @dougmanck4149
    @dougmanck4149 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Have owned a TIPS ETF for the past several years and watched it drop like your graph showed. Not quite the same as owning TIPS directly, but looks like a similar overall result. Definitely prefer I-bonds now that I've learned about them, much simpler.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing - most TIPS ETFs followed that same pattern in the past few years as the Fed raised rates

  • @guanruwu9371
    @guanruwu9371 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looking forward to see a video about I bond vs T bills for 2023❤

  • @seantretiak2959
    @seantretiak2959 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One important difference between iBonds and TIPS that you did not mention is that iBonds use that 6 month look-back on inflation rates. That is why so many of us rushed to buy in that window with a few high readings. At this moment we are in the opposite situation with a few very low readings. I won't be buying iBonds that capture that window - instead I plan to sell my zero fixed rate iBonds unless that window significantly improves (as your other video correctly pointed out is possible) and use the proceeds for other investments including TIPS if the real yield stays high, or even new iBonds with a fixed base rate.
    Thanks for the amazing content!

  • @GiantBlue1963
    @GiantBlue1963 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perhaps your best video yet. Complicated topic explained very well. The spread on your TIP is why I only buy bonds that I'll hold to maturity.

  • @merwis1
    @merwis1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. You answered all my questions about I Bonds vs TIPS. Specifically, your chart on age groups was really helpful. Thanks so much for doing these videos!!!

  • @RAIDERSJUSTWINBAYB
    @RAIDERSJUSTWINBAYB ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a great video! Very comprehensive and informative! Thank you for this one Jennifer 🙏😊💕

  • @BorisLikesBonds
    @BorisLikesBonds ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for posting this video, Jennifer! Well done! Personally, I'm sticking with I-Bonds, CDs, Bills, Notes, and Bonds. If I want to hedge against inflation then I will invest in companies with pricing power and stickiness that pay ever increasing dividends. Also, corporate bonds on the secondary market that got a haircut recently are also good candidates. No TIPS here. I would still like to hear you go deeper into muni and corporate bonds. There's a lot of good opportunities there, especially for long term super-savers.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Boris & noted on the video ideas!

  • @allisbookishadventures8260
    @allisbookishadventures8260 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm in my early 30s. I have been purchasing i bonds every month since July. I also have some money invested in long term dividend paying stocks I plan on dollar cost averaging my way into. I don't really understand how tips work and don't want to lose money because I don't understand what im getting into.

  • @neilfraser7689
    @neilfraser7689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to see more TIPS videos to understand them better, including how the principle to adjusted

  • @thomaskelly9549
    @thomaskelly9549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for reassuring me on tips. Although I only have them in a Roth IRA would like to learn more about how to report phantom income if I buy some in a taxable account. Wary of most other bonds I am thinking laddering tips is good for me, better than other bonds (while real yield is high). The disadvantage of I bonds is that after paying taxes you won't come out ahead of inflation when the fixed rare is low.

  • @TVResults
    @TVResults ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like knowing how much I'll be making in interest over a period of time, so it is IBonds for me. I have enough fluctuation in other areas of my portfolio.

  • @zdog1566
    @zdog1566 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What would you recommend for someone in their 30s who isn't retiring soon, but trying to save for a down payment?

  • @Megan-ns8cu
    @Megan-ns8cu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video, thanks for sharing the Pro and Con on IBond vs TIP.

  • @fasteddy3336
    @fasteddy3336 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall, when you and your husband had the discussion on the Tips.😂😂😂😂❤

    • @dougmanck4149
      @dougmanck4149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I laughed out loud. Bad idea, hopefully he learned a lesson.

    • @shoofly529
      @shoofly529 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I liked how her husband said he "might have invested in some TIPS"...As a married man who'se had a discussion or two like that, I can confidentialy state that he's the victim! 😉

  • @jamessherman-gm4gj
    @jamessherman-gm4gj ปีที่แล้ว

    If I bought an ibond when the rate was 9.6% and now it's earning 3.6%, should I sell it and rebuy it at the current 5.3%?
    I love your videos. Your practical info should be offered at the highschool level as an option over shop class.

  • @DebPesina
    @DebPesina 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you sooo much for your videos and doing an amazing job explaining!! you ARE the best!

  • @sophiewang123
    @sophiewang123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Thanks Jen. I read about a theory/strategy recently: Long term TIPS like 30 year TIPS and ETFs tracking long term STRIPS like EDV tend to fluctuate with interest rate due to their long durations, when interest rate goes lower their price increase and vice versa. So a strategy is to buy them when the interest rate peaks (which we will probably see later this year) and sell them when the interest rate drops to realize the capital gains. I think it makes sense but I am concerned about the liquidity of TIPS and the potential big spread between bid and ask when the time comes to sell. I'd love to hear your opinion/comment on this strategy.

  • @tknapp
    @tknapp ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent info! Thanks for explaining so well! 🙏🏻

  • @sternof
    @sternof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In times of recession, usually the FED lowers the interest rates, which is good for bonds (bonds that were bought when the rates are high).
    Is there still a worry about not having TIPS as an emergency fund due to the reason "in a recession everybody tries to sell" ? (or any other reason?)
    won't the FED buy bonds anyhow, as was done in 2023 ? so there will be a demand for them?
    Thanks, your videos are super!

  • @stephenhendricks8247
    @stephenhendricks8247 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow!
    you are the best!
    your presentation is not only informative but addictive-just watching makes me happy because it's so easy to understand .

  • @kevinsmith4559
    @kevinsmith4559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Now that we have these tips, we will be holding on to them to maturity”…cough cough.. bad husband…. I caught that smirk😅

  • @k.6160
    @k.6160 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a TIPS ETF and it dropped like a rock and I lost money. Forgot, I'll never mess with any kind of TIPS again. It never seems to be an advantage.

  • @crystalwhite4799
    @crystalwhite4799 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for all your tips they are very helpful.

  • @tintran1193
    @tintran1193 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realy appriciate your advice, special how to get the charge for Bond to compair with TIPS. Thanks again

  • @hectorr.corrales221
    @hectorr.corrales221 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤ thank you Jennifer for your wonderful ongoing coverage
    You have become my coach because I believe that you are honest and reputable
    which is most important for me 👍❗️

  • @victorresp
    @victorresp ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, can you also make a video on tips mutual funds like VTIP ? THANKS!

  • @IwasRetired
    @IwasRetired ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jennifer, thanks for your analysis. I Bonds are in my taxable account and I have some TIPS funds in my tax-deferred accounts. More recently, I've been discouraged by ETFs and Mutual Funds with TIPS and making some selected individual TIPS purchases in my tax-deferred accounts. Have you done a video on buying TIPS vs. an ETF like VTIP? What do we do when VTIP is down so much! Can't hold an ETF to maturity, since it is a collection of bonds bought by others!

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jim. I don't have a video on buying individual TIPS vs an ETF. Will add it to our list - thanks for the idea!

  • @miket1181
    @miket1181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Jennifer like to know how ibond taxation works as I already have a 1098 for one interest payment from 2022 do I need to pay that now or save those and collect them all up until I sell the ibond

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have something out on this shortly

  • @ea7065
    @ea7065 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your videos. Very grateful. Quick question in re: 14:32 of the video. I bought my I-bond in November. When do you start seeing the interest getting credited in the current value field? My "current value" is the same as the purchase price. Am I missing something?

    • @jamiecamp4014
      @jamiecamp4014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interest will be credited on March 1 2023 for I-bonds bought Nov 22.

    • @KatieIndyk
      @KatieIndyk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they account for the 3 months you forfeit if you redeem early in the calculation. Mine were issued in October and just now are showing a months worth of interest.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      This I-Bond interest video should provide more clarity if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/9hfHoSijJEk/w-d-xo.html

  • @wtpwtp
    @wtpwtp ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful explanations! Very helpful! Thank you!

  • @hasmukhpatel4739
    @hasmukhpatel4739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi,
    I have bought I bonds in year 2022, I have confusion with intrest earned, that I have to show in my 2022 it return, or I have to show , when I withraw the amount ?
    Please guide me.
    Thank you very much.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some I-Bond owners choose to report annually but it's very complicated to do this (most don't per Amanda's reply because you only get your 1099 at redemption/ maturity)

    • @hasmukhpatel4739
      @hasmukhpatel4739 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiamondNestEgg
      Thank you for your good guidance to all......

  • @TheChinaPlay
    @TheChinaPlay ปีที่แล้ว

    If memory serves, the regular non-inflation protected securities offered by the Treasury tend to adjust in auction in a way that accounts for current inflation. Similarly the preferential tax treatment of munis end up equaling with other options as investors expect that difference to be covered. The bond market tends to be most efficient since the math is transparent....at least when duration risk is not factor.

  • @auroragomez1836
    @auroragomez1836 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have paper Ibonds that need change pod and transfer to electronic. Which do I do first or can I do both at the same time

  • @RonKrupka
    @RonKrupka ปีที่แล้ว

    WRT my 1099 for TIPS, there's an entry(Box 12) for bond premium on treasury obligations; what are its tax ramifications: annual interest, accumulated interest at maturity, or something else? Why is it different from Box 3 interest for TIPS?

  • @murbanaiy2574
    @murbanaiy2574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes please, more TIPS videos

  • @Pleasure_Baron
    @Pleasure_Baron ปีที่แล้ว

    DEEP dive please. Thank you.

  • @rodneyrchicago
    @rodneyrchicago ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work and great advice for my daughter starting out on her career wrt emergency savings strategy!

  • @richmurphy8144
    @richmurphy8144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as usual. Seeing that TIPS come in maturities of 5, 10, and 30 years, would a TIPS fund be a good (better?) vehicle than individual TIPS for a gray-haired person in Group 2? Thanks

  • @joelsarchitectureresearch
    @joelsarchitectureresearch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Jennifer. What would happen to bank reserves (our deposits at commercial banks and credit unions) if there's a US debt deafult?

    • @miltkarr5109
      @miltkarr5109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to hear Jennifer chime in....but I would say it would /could lead to a run on the banks. There could be a currency revaluation. Lot of risks but it could be safer than bonds in that scenario. I'd consider having some cash in an fdic insured account and some in a Treasury direct account.

    • @kwonh4008
      @kwonh4008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the US defaults, FDIC insured banks and NCUA insured credit unions will go insolvent probably before the US Treasury. In case of the US default, it may make sense to try to spread out your risk.

    • @joelsarchitectureresearch
      @joelsarchitectureresearch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I was thinking. I think FDIC has a line of credit in case their fund runs out but I'm pretty sure the line of credit is from the treasury. So whether we keep funds in treasury direct or in a commercial bank probably doesn't make much difference in the event of a default. I guess some physical cash could eliminate counterparty risk, but the dollar may lose value more rapidly in that scenario, right? Or maybe it would gain value since total currency units would have been reduced?

    • @GiantBlue1963
      @GiantBlue1963 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you think is the likelihood of default? I can't imagine either party wants to own that hornets nest.

    • @joelsarchitectureresearch
      @joelsarchitectureresearch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GiantBlue1963 I would agree with most people and say that it's extraordinarily unlikely. But I just hate being caught unprepared even if something is unlikely, so I'd want to have at least some small form of insurance for a worst case scenario. That's just me though, and honestly if that did happen there's probably way bigger things to worry about than money.

  • @AkaDoubleG
    @AkaDoubleG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be curious if you are looking at the upcoming auction in April for the 5 year TIPS on Treasury Direct and if you might make a video about it?

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll keep watching the situation & if I do end up buying in the upcoming auction or if there's enough interest in the community, I will try to do a video. Thanks.

    • @AkaDoubleG
      @AkaDoubleG ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DiamondNestEgg It will be interesting if we see the 2 year hit 5% and the 10 year hit 4%.

  • @CarlosLopez-kx6bf
    @CarlosLopez-kx6bf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happens to TIPS i buy now if the interest rates drop? Do they become more valuable?

  • @charleswilliams655
    @charleswilliams655 ปีที่แล้ว

    after the comparison, you mentioned treasury ladders. so, what, how, etc on treas ladders?. thank you
    Charles

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's our laddering T-Bills video: th-cam.com/video/__oqvdtLoiE/w-d-xo.html

    • @charleswilliams655
      @charleswilliams655 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your response!

  • @mjt4651
    @mjt4651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soooo…….I’m with you….short term T bills….waiting for the long end to get above 5%….then lock in 1 & 2 & 5/year bills/ notes

    • @seantretiak2959
      @seantretiak2959 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is unlikely that 2+ year bonds will exceed 5% in this cycle - the market would have to project that the Fed's overnight rate would be at those levels several years from now - which is not the most likely future. Consider CDs if holding in a tax deferred account - they are nearly 5% for brokered CDs!

    • @mjt4651
      @mjt4651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seantretiak2959 thanks, however I would prefer to go with T bill or note, just in case Fed pivots…could sell at a premium if rates drop

    • @seantretiak2959
      @seantretiak2959 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are 100% correct - the CD option lacks reasonable liquidity. Just wanted to make sure you knew there was a current way to achieve close to 5% for those durations.

    • @mjt4651
      @mjt4651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seantretiak2959 👍 Thanks Sean

  • @AmAFlowProductions
    @AmAFlowProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great info Super Duper Saver! 😇

  • @terriabbott1374
    @terriabbott1374 ปีที่แล้ว

    I overpaid in taxes by almost 3500 for 2022 with intention of getting paper Ibonds back. Also opened a Roth IRA 2022 and contributed max amount. I noticed I made just $2000 over the income limit to get any deduction for contributing to an IRA. If I do the extension and overpay by that 2000 would it change that IRA deduction qualification?

  • @remington2277
    @remington2277 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a bit confused as to how TIPS at 1.4% are a better hedge against inflation than I-bonds. I bought a number of I- bonds in the early 2000’s . Some of those bonds were paying over 12% in the past year. I’m curious how I would have made out if the same principal amount was invested in TIPS back then.

  • @nancyallen8497
    @nancyallen8497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @theyuha
    @theyuha ปีที่แล้ว

    How would bonds be in a situation where banks are found to be wanting in funds, a bank run and our dollar is found to not be adequately backed by value. The dollar is being devalued and will be some to fix this problem. it will not collapse though it may create some fear. Will bonds be safe if we take a new digital dollar and if the new dollar is a little less in value than what we have now will bonds be safe? Will we get the difference in loss or will we lost that value too, I"m think it will be around 10% loss when we get the new dollar, hopefully less. I am not concerned of a collapse, I do think it will be taken care of but i have been adding funds to I- Bonds, or is a different instrument on the government website better. i already have some mining stock and silver and gold but also other unrelated companies like TSLA..

  • @Abraham.Lincoln22
    @Abraham.Lincoln22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WooHoo 🎉👍 I-Bonds

  • @jeffknecht2733
    @jeffknecht2733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jennifer
    Can 4 or 8 week T Bills be bought on the secondary market on Schwab online?
    I can only find 3 month or longer.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. You have to use the search function. Here’s the video on how to do this: How To Buy T-Bills On Schwab | Treasury Bills 2023 (Secondary Market)
      th-cam.com/video/LraR-9pu5No/w-d-xo.html

    • @jeffknecht2733
      @jeffknecht2733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DiamondNestEgg
      Thanks Jennifer.
      I bought a 3/14/2023 T Bill at auction yesterday for around 4.51 and after your instruction and link, found a 3-09-2023 paying 4.725 on the secondary market. Would that have a better selection?
      By the way, some bills have coupon rates, what's that all about?
      I'm buying shorter terms 4 & 8 weeks until the debt ceiling comes to terms.
      Fun learning!! Thank you.
      *You don't get much sleep I take it.

  • @parvind.8824
    @parvind.8824 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes more tips videos

  • @watermelonlover963
    @watermelonlover963 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you share you strategy on S&P500?

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      We dollar-cost average into the S&P index via our retirement savings

  • @sukyleung7579
    @sukyleung7579 ปีที่แล้ว

    CAN I buy IBond for my grand baby as gifts?

    • @monarene44
      @monarene44 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if the parent has a custodial TreasuryDirect account set up for the child.

    • @Abraham.Lincoln22
      @Abraham.Lincoln22 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@monarene44 Not true. A buyer can hold them in a gift account to be distributed later.

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Suky. This video is for buying I-Bonds as gifts for a spouse, but you can follow the tutorial to purchase a gift for your grand baby in the same manner: th-cam.com/video/bSoZJJypSAQ/w-d-xo.html
      Some things to remember:
      1. You need your grand baby's SSN (so they need to already be born)
      2. Once you've bought the gift, when you want to deliver it (transfer it to your grandchild), your grandchild's parents would need to send up a minor-linked account for your grandchild. Here is the video for the parents on how to do this: th-cam.com/video/YlE3Uxoeah4/w-d-xo.html
      If your grandchild's parents don't want to set up a minor-linked account for your grandchild, you would need to deliver/ transfer the gift when your grandchild is 18 and old enough to open their own TreasuryDirect account.

    • @monarene44
      @monarene44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Abraham.Lincoln22 And how do you think it will get distributed if the parent doesn’t or won’t set up a custodial account?

  • @gabymalembe
    @gabymalembe ปีที่แล้ว

    What does your crystal ball say about the May I-bond rate?

    • @DiamondNestEgg
      @DiamondNestEgg  ปีที่แล้ว

      May 2023 I-Bond Rate Prediction | When To Buy I-Bonds In 2023
      th-cam.com/video/90JAbdDo-sQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @lazarovaliente5418
    @lazarovaliente5418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Español 😢

  • @jetsamjetsam
    @jetsamjetsam ปีที่แล้ว

    i wish u were my wife