ไม่สามารถเล่นวิดีโอนี้
ขออภัยในความไม่สะดวก
Making 230v mains sockets usable in the caravan
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video i look at making our kitchen 230v mains outlets both usable at the same time.
This video shows how simple it is to make adjustments and should give you confidence to do this yourself. Of course, you can ask your dealership to do this for you, or a mobile engineer if you don't feel confident in tackling this job.
----------------
BE SOCIAL
----------------
▶ Website : trudg.uk/web
▶ Twitter : trudg.uk/twitter
▶ Instagram : trudg.uk/instagram
▶ Facebook : trudg.uk/facebook
▶ Amazon Storefront : trudg.uk/storefront
#CaravanTips #caravanningUkCommunity
I know your van is in storage, but others, make sure you turn off electric first. Also, turn off 12v, as some sockets contain both and best not to blow 12v fuses either!
On our Bailey Unicorn IV Cartagena Bailey fitted the 2x sockets in the kitchen sideways (as Dan moved his too in the video) I still thought this less then optimal so I moved the bottom socket so its vertical (as it would be at home) this works well for us both sockets fully accessible, minimal trailing wires.
I also rotated the socket on the side of the front chest 180 degrees so the cable exits the plug towards the front of the van, again neater and less trailing cable for lamp on front chest.
Easy job as Dan demonstrates. Great videos Dan keep up the good work.
I bet you're absolutely right that it's not just a bailey problem. It just makes you wonder what quality control is for. It's the little things you can put right but feel you shouldn't have to that's a bit of a pain. Great video Dan. 👍👍
Thanks Dan one of the things I love about your channel and videos is it not only gives me the inspiration but also the confidence to do some of these simple jobs. It can be quite daunting when looking at something that you spent quite a bit of money on and thinking I'm going to start unscrewing and changeing stuff.
Great video. Caravan designers should live for a week in their prototypes before they go into mass production. Only started caravaning 5 months ago and have learnt so much from you.
Great Video Dan as usual. Good idea to have the plug leads going towards the window to maximise work surface space.
Nice easy job Dan. I have seen this before in other manufactures vans, as a keen caravaner if I was working caravan manufacturing I would look at that and say 'that's not going to work' Maybe that's the issue, the people who put our caravans together on the line are not caravaners! Cheers matey
Brilliant solution.. thanks Dan for another great and simple solution that I am sure a lot of people will benefit as showing how easy was to do.
Easy fix there. Graham Caravan Vlogger shows his new swift caravan in video released on 21 March 2021 and you can see a similar double socket fitted sideways. Cheers. Rob
Thanks, Dan - we have a new Bailey Discovery D4-4 - they fitted one socket horizontally and one vertically - I wondered why, but now I know!
Bailey, seems to think its unsafe to use electricity on its side, LOL Good video. Cheers.
Ah Dave the problem is that, with AC, the sine wave might hit the walls if the sockets are horizontal, reducing the available voltage by up to half. That axiomatically means one might just have well used only one full-voltage socket, rather than two half-voltage ones. Fine but that would fail to power 240v appliances, so the manufacturer is deliberately preventing one from making such a mistake - as neither appliance would work then. Better, they think, to at least power one appliance so that it works. So it is actually genius - we should all realise that. Hope that explanation is as good as the sockets themselves. Cheers! :)
@@sebxiou-lifestyle4465 No safety in mind here, just a bad design and that outlet needs redesign to make full use.
Tbh I never even noticed that issue but will be doing the same thing tomorrow, stay safe Dan and thanks.
nice demonstration and gives me a bit of confidence to have a go at the small jobs myself Thanks Dan :)
perfect, glad its helped. hope youre well.
Thanks so much just discovered a similar problem on our Bailey when we tried to plug our new Cello tv in socket above the fridge.
The mains plug is designed upside down so it blocks the aerial socket.
With your helpful video I will try to turn it the same. Thanks so much
Great to know this is easy to do!
Nice video Dan
Well done Dan
So simple yet so effective. Well done Dan and caravan manufacturers take note.
Dan. Done exactly the same in my van a while ago as spotted the same problem. Nick T.
I made a similar mod last autumn in our Xplore. The bedroom socket allows a standard sized plug but wouldn't fit a small adaptor powering some LED strip. Until it was turned 180 degrees.
Well done Dan. Take a look at this video caravan manufacturers
Magic!
Hi Dan, much better now. You also could of put one socket left hand and the other right hand. That also would of made the cables opposite side, for better cable management
Infact just gone out to the caravan on the drive to do and surprise surprise it’s already done 😊😊😊
Very good
Well done. We are lucky in Australia our plugs have the cord going in the middle not the edge of the plug.
Hi Dan
Our swift as all the sockets side on .... your video did instigate me checking tho... perhaps it’s a Bailey thing...
Had the same issue on a Hymer nova van from new - took service agent two attempt to correct lol - we just rotated the top one. 👍👍 all I guess is for European set up it does not matter 😂
Nice job , you can get away with just turning the top one !
Next one Dan is the little led lights under the cupboards that have USB ports. In my Unicorn each light actually has two ports (I found out recently). On the bedroom lights, one faces the wall so is unusable!! Maybe turn them 90 degrees too!
Had the same issue with my Bailey Alicanto. Only needed to rotate centre socket as the lower one has nothing to obstruct it.
You’re a genius!
i think thats stretching it a little... lol
All sockets in our Swift Challenger in the kitchen and bedroom area are side on. It makes loads of sense.
Designed for European sockets and then fitted with Uk is my guess.
I once worked in a workshop where the sockets had been mounted immediately above the bench. We had to flip all the sockets (a dozen or so) to plug everything in up-side-down due to the builders not thinking.
Loved it “job done thanks for watching everybody” 🤣🤣
Brilliant,, we have the same issue,, not anymore
Nice video Dan. I believe Bailey must have realised this problem as our 19 Unicorn has then 90 degrees. Nice little mod though. Cheers, Oliver
based upon comments, it very much seems random based upon who is fitting it at the time.
Good video. Might be wise to add ISOLATE mains power and 12 volt before touching any sockets switches etc...
Dan's van is in storage ... it won't be plugged in to a mains supply ;-)
well done mate ive come a cross the adapter you buy that you supposedly can fit 3 plugs haha why they didnt think of alternating the sockets so you can fit 3 plugs is beyond me
Dear Dan. I would have put them facing in opposite directions so wires didn't tangle. I do agree that no thought is put into the design of some caravans . Cara has a plug socket so close to the floor is only used to charge a phone because the USB comes out the back of the plug not the bottom!! Stay safe x
now, thats an interesting thought. The only thing i would say is the cable coming out of the left hand side would be in the face of who ever has sat there.
That said, Mrs T has asked for the bottom one to face as it was, so she can use a plug in air freshner... i suppose it goes to show, there are lots of ways of thinking about this.
Thanks for the suggestion
Take care.
Dan, perhaps you could have moved the light switch to the centre and kept the 3 units all in the original vertical plane.
Wang it lol nice work Dan
Why this isn’t done in construction is beyond me.
Because it requires someone to think.
I actually noticed on our 2019 Pegasus Grande Rimini, which seems to have the same kitchen layout, actually DOES have those sockets horizontal, so perhaps they do think about things!!
@@pearcefamily7098 Or they put things in randomly and you were lucky!
Ooh you of little faith!
Maybe Bailey have Been watching your vlogs Dan . We got our 640+ in may 2021 and the top socket was turned already. Bottom one in std position... Or some fitters are better than others?? Not that we use those sockets much as mainly of grid now
Our Rimini has one of the floor level sockets already turned 90 degrees, so they had used a bit if thought! Important to make sure mains isn't on. 73
Hi Dan, I think this may be a Bailey problem, my 2012 Sterling has side by side sockets, also has blanking plates for additional sockets
Ah logic :) Little bit of thought = much easier life!
Such an easy fix. I noticed that the cut outs were all set at 45degrees. If they had made the shroud the same shap it would have worked
Very good but you only needed to turn the top socket.
Its the same issue with the power bank you showed recently. And another issue with these sockets is that some plugs hit the surrounding trim before fully seating, leaving a small gap. Its shouldn't be a problem as the power pins are shielded and should disconnect before any bare conductor is accessible, but I assume there is supposed to be clear area for the plug to seat??
well, i'm taking a screwdriver to the powerbank and to see if this can also be rotated.
How easy was that! Begs the question though, why was it installed like that in the first place
Good idea, all you had to do was turn the top one, might have been a bit less fiddlie putting it back together.
you're right, but my OCD would have gotten the best of me in the end. oddly Mrs T wants the bottom one back upright so she can plug in an air freshner.
It’s obviously passed it’s QC at the factory and the PDI at the dealers, oh and not forgetting the valet and handover, how many times was that mistake missed!
Normally it's the middle one only that's turned in the review videos I've watched, yours must have been a Friday afternoon job, but easy fix.
A couple of EXTRA sockets fitted by the manufacturers would be nice (deff one extra in the kitchen area). They never seem to fit enough and it would only add a few pounds onto the price.
My Bailey is a 2019 model and the sockets are horizontal, so I assume Bailey corrected the problem ?
On my 2019 Phoenix 642 the sockets are horizontal as well. Possibly just put in incorrectly and not noticed by quality control.
@@MrG.42 ‘Quality Control’ 😂 I think these people only ever work the 2nd Thursday in the month don’t they?
Will that invalidate any warranty you have Dan messing with the electrics ?
Just a question 👍
i very much doubt it. I could book this into a dealer who will do exactly the same thing.
I have a single socket by the kitchen area, if I wanted to add another do I just spur off of the original socket. Any advise?
Hi Kevin, that is exactly what they have done on these power outlets, if you look carefully at the white wire at the back of the sockets, you will see it runs from one to the other.
Brilliant, thank you. And thank you for all your advice.
It seems factory quality control check badly done .Or a dealer check failure .Ain't the sockets checked for correct polarity/ earthing as by a house electrical installation.
Dan just checked my Vigo and the sockets are horizontal your van must have been assembled by someone with a vertical compulsion!!
All you need is a two-way adaptor in the top socket.
nah, more clutter when there doesn't / shouldn't need to be.
Surely only needed to rotate the middle one?
Thats what Mrs T said, she wants the bottom one back straight again for a plug in air freshner....
@@TheTrudgians BTW is the extra socket part of the Dealer Special trim? Either way, it’s not been thought through.
I can understand why they put them in that way originally. Someone taking delivery of a nice new caravan would spot horizontal sockets and complain about shoddy workmanship. Only after they were onsite when they came to use them would they realise that’s why they were put horizontally
exactly, this only became an issue after 2 years of owning this van, when i wanted to plug in a slow cooker while a kettle was running.... lol.
@@TheTrudgians Thanks Dan - can I also say that it’s down to your channel (and Andrew Dittons) that as a brand new caravaner (12 year old van) I have a great deal more knowledge and confidence for my first trip in April. Thank you! Of course I’m blaming you when it all goes wrong 😀
You only needed to rotate the top socket unless you found it to be aesthetically displeasing and was it a mistake at manufacture or are all the vans coming out like this? Great video to show this can be easily rectified. Thanks for sharing👍Mark
Why didn't you just rotate the upper socket?
Just don’t trip over the cable and drag the whole socket out from wall now , good idea but there’s a reason sockets are designed this why
It’s the simplest of things...
Simple and it's a shame the manufacture didn't notice that you couldn't use both at the same time.
Never even tried that Dan, What a stupid design. Only ever had one at a time! Must of been a Friday afternoon design hahah
Well this is strange Dan, Just been out to my Bailey to have a look at mine, Mine are in the correct position already! How strange, Maybe yours were fitted wrong from factory?
Why not put the light switches in the middle then you can have both plugs working the right way up
But wouldn’t the cable from the top socket dangle in front of the light switch? Also - the 2 sockets are wired together so I don’t think it would quite reach.
It does make us wonder what sort of person designed it in the first place!
Wifes a wheelchair user and finds most of the disabled persons facilities are designed by people who aren't disabled and ridiculously difficult to use.
Don't get me started on "WheelChair friendly" anyone sitting in a wheelchair, will soon see how stupid stuff is designed for their benefit. grrrr
@@TheTrudgians
We've just bought a motorhome that's been specially converted for wheelchair users though even this needs assistance from an able bodied to operate and turn on some of the equipment.
It's similar to the nutcase councils letting them build bungalows on a hill!
Does make you think the manufacturer should have given this some thought. Surely they must try out their designs. 🙄
I remember my Swift had the lounge light switch furthest away from the door and the kitchen light switch in the middle with the bedroom switch the first you came across. Just beggars belief. As said previously, common sense would help greatly.
Tremendous caravan bloggsbut you must always mention that the 230v supply MUST be switched off before working on such projects. The light was coming on to show that this safety precaution hadn't been employed on this video