There isn't enough material in our solar system to make another star. We'd have to import some gas giants from other systems, and the shipping cost is where they get you.
Or starlift loads of material from the sun and dump it into jupiter, turning both into smaller, longer-lived stars, extending how long civilisation can survive in the solar system. Proxima centauri is only 0.123 solar masses.
JUPITER FOR PRESIDENT! XD (but wait if your here then your not in space and that means gravity is fuged up and THAT means SOMETING IZ GON HAPEN TO EARTH!! AHHHHH!! *Dead*
@@poulomisensharma6652 it is representative of what a girl is thinking vs what a guy is actually thinking. Im not sure what you think it means but its got nothing to do with who is 'behind' who. Though usually the guy is behind the girl lol
Very instructive, i knew from childhood Jupiter was like a "failed star" in that the composition is about the same but it needs to be many times more massive to start its star reaction. Well thanks to you i like everybody else here know more precisely about it. :)
The transition point between a gas-giant and brown-dwarf is 13 Jupiter-masses at which point the core is hot enough for Deuturium fusion and second threshold is 69 Jupiter-masses at which Lithium can be fused. The threshold for Hydrogen-fusion is 76 Jupiter-masses.
For that to happen the brown-dwarf would have to be very massive - 75 Jupiter masses so that Jupiter colliding with it would push the brown-dwarf to the 76 Jupiter-mass threshold.
Nicholas Maude let me ask you, there has been a lot of speculation of our solar system colliding or merging somehow with another system ( some say it's trappists, I have no idea) but I have had thoughts of the sun's twin nemesis colliding w Jupiter and have wondered if it would ignite Jupiter???? I wonder if the trappist Sun is big enough?? Who knows?? Thank you again for answering ... :)
:) Maybe so but I had this theory a long time before the movie "2010". I feel honored that Anton did a video on the subject after I posed this question on his Facebook page.
Just did that. Orbital period is about 4 days if a planet is constructed as near to Earth-like as possible. (yeah, I could have just orbited a second Earth there, but what fun is that?) Started with an asteroid that had been captured in Jupiter's orbit after it ate its moons and just crashed other asteroids into it, then other moons as it became larger. Finally, a bit of adjustment to the orbit and some parameters so it matched Earth and Jovia was born. :D
Many habitable worlds would arise from Jupiter turning into a star. Many of the natural satellites would become habitable. Eroupa would be a great place to make a human settlement. Well, maybe humanity should not even land on Europa and just settle the other natural satellites around Jupiter. The new star should be named, "Lucifer," after the brightest and most beautiful angel of light.
@@indridcold8433 Europa will most likely be pushed away due to gravity and radiation, which might indicate it arriving in Lucifer’s habitable zone. The only thing that europa doesn’t have is an atmosphere, and that’s really important.
What about the crystalline hydrogen in Jupiter? Surely that is a super-intense form of energy we still cannot fully understand. Perhaps Jupiter can become a star larger than a dwarf we really do not know. And the fact that the sun appears to have more mass because it has hyper-velocity material in it's interior that amplify gravitational effects makes it seem more massive than it truly is in reality.
@dr2brain except that red dwarfs give of shit tons of xrays and solar wind and are highly veriable in there output, they seem like a good idea because they last so long but in reality they are a terrible idea if you want to live on a planet, if you want to live in habitats orbiting the star with loads of rock used for shielding it's not a bad plan though as you don't need to worry about the radiation or veirable output as you would be controlling the temp of the habitats anyway.
I just looked it up and now I feel stupid. I didn't just see the movie, either. I read the books but it had been such a long time I thought there was only one
Yeah. I think what the Monoliths did was intensifying the density of Jupiter, not adding more mass as in the video here. Jupiter was literally sucked/squeezed inside itself and became denser and denser. Until nuclear fusion was ignited.
oh youre the guy from what da math! i remember watching this all the time when i was a kid! i’ve been watching your newer videos for like 2 years now and i never realised that you were the same person.
Ron Brideau No, but pressure is needed. Gravity is the best way such high constant pressure can be sustained. Magnetically crushing fuel together works as well, but nature doesn't have electromagnetic coils or high power sockets.
Remember that science is never complete, and assuming we know everything about a star is naive. New data shows that Sol is not powered by nuclear fission, but rather, Birkeland Currents.
Nova Solarius well, the model states that it's helium (or is it hydrogen) that undergoes chemical change over and over into iron. Except, they never explain how the lightest element made it to the center.
HiveTyrant36 It's a nuclear change, not a chemical one. Stars are too hot to permit chemical reactions. As for hydrogen reaching the core, that's simple. Plasma is incredibly hot, and hot fluids move around. Helium doesn't build up in the core because of currents in the plasma. That said, heavier elements do stay nearer to the center. This is why larger stars are layered.
Watching this now I realize you've mellowed down a lot in your tone in your newer videos. I really like that, your videos are relaxing as well as intriguing
Anton if you see this, I love this old style of video, and at this point would just love to see you make a secondary channel just for fun gameplays of Universe Sandbox and games alike
His heel, will bruise the serpants head, the bottom of Jupiter hit the top of Saturn already, scientists know this Jupiter will become a Sun once God says it's time, and the new earth and new heaven will happen.
By twinned planets do you mean two planets with a center of mass between then, like we and our moon, but just with a bigger moon, or two planets that have the same orbit but are on the opposite sides of their sun? The first one is unlikely but possible. (Having two planets with the necessary traits for life that close is like winning the lottery, 3 times in a row.) The second one is pretty much impossible to exist naturally. (That is more like winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life.)
FYI the link to Amazon is no longer available. I was thinking of purchasing it if it were cheaper than the $25 on Steam... I'll just wait for a sale. Looks much better than the original.
Instead of "you can't turn Jupiter into a star", you should take the approach of an Issac Arthur vid and explain ways you could turn it into a star. In that format you are staying positive while still showing how difficult it would be to turn Jupiter into a star.
kingdom come Well I believe you would have to check how many Jupiters "fit" into the Sun (mass wise) and then just extract 78 or 79 masses of Jupiter from the Sun and see what that equates to in terms of mass of the Sun.
Laschworks Television I believe it is Universe Sandbox 2 that can be found at universesandbox dot com. It is a 25 dollar program, which is not bad at all for what it does.
Potentially it could save us from that Asteroid that's supposed to come around 5 days before Christmas if this simulation were to be correct. Apparently somebody said in a journal that there was an Asteroid in line to come by to Earth every so often.
I would've loved to see what became of the solar system at the end. Maybe rerun this simulation and let it run for a couple years more (maybe even a few decades/hundred) So far the inner solar system seemed unscathed. No doubt it wont remain as such but I loved this !
If you introduce enough oxygen into jupiter's atmosphere, the flammable gasses would have enough oxidizer to make it possible for the planet burst into flames. Then all you have to do is introduce a lit match. It would be what would _look_ like a star for a while, until it burns up completely
niko 2: electric boogaloo The temperature inside of Jupiter is already enough to start a reaction like that, no matches needed. Just put enough oxygen in there and watch it burn away into nothingness...nope also not what would happen: the gasses would just be replaced by themselves after reacting to oxygen, and whatever else there is to react with. So just think of Jupiter + Oxygen -> (in the presence of heat) OxyJupiter! Oh and if I wrote something inaccurate please feel free to correct me: I haven't done chemistry since 12 months ago, we 1st year Computer Engineering students don't need that shite it seems! 😂
It already is a brown dwarf star since it emits infrared radiation and produces more energy than it receives from the sun so it is by definition a star 😌
JUPITER ALWAYS BEEN CLASSED AS A FAILED STAR. ONE THAT NEVER GREW UP COMPLETELY. BECAUSE IT'S MADE UP FROM SAME ELEMENTS OF THE STAR SO IT CAN EASILY BE FUSED AT RIGHT TEMPERATURE OR IDEAL TIME.
That mean if jupiter is 0.1 au then its not a star It needs to nuclear fusion this is like saying a random metal cube from deep space that glows dim red is a star
It depends on the definition, actually. Some astronomers classify objects with roughly the same mass and composition of Jupiter (which incidentally, is almost exactly the same composition of our Sun) as Brow Dwarfs already, and what puts Jupiter as a planet is the way it was formed, not it's size, mass or make up.
oh anton... assuming there is only one way to turn a giant gas object into a star..in the right conditions jupiter is more than massive enough to ignite into a star, as long as there is enough electricity and it is far enough away from another star like sol, which it is not.. think electromagnetism...so if jupiter was further from the sun there is every chance it could ignite
There are larger exoplanets if I'm not mistaken. So Jupiter does not exactly represent a threshhold between planet and star. I don't even know if one has been determined.
If Jupiter was a minimum mass star then it would be around as bright as the full moon when it's at opposition, decreasing in brightness by around 55% when at conjunction. Here's my explanation: The Sun is around 400,000 times brighter than the full moon from earth. A low-mass red dwarf (eg Proxima Centauri) is around 1/25,000th as luminous as the sun. Jupiter is on average slightly more than five times the distance from the sun than earth, hence at opposition Jupiter is 4 astronomical units from Earth or just over hence the brightness factor of Jupiter at opposition equals approximately 25,000 x (4^2) = 25,000 x 16 = 400,000.
What would happen if Jupiter lost all gas layers except for it's helium layer and core? Or Saturn? Would they be little mini stars? Would they produce light? Would their surface remain at 10,000 degrees?
fun fact: if you throw 90 jupiters into eachother it would make a brown dwarf ''a failed star that are a huge disappointment to their moms'' - kurzgesagt
At 12 Jupiter mass the core would become hot and dense enough to fuse deuterium and tritium to produce helium 3 or so. But to fuse protium-protium or other lighter combination if needed more than that.
19 Jupiters would become a brown Dorf 50 Jupiters would make a main sequence 100 Jupiters would make a giant 1 thousand Jupiters would make a hypergiant
What if you lit off Castle Bravo in Jupiter's atmosphere? Burn? Explode? What would happen without Jupiter's gravitational influence on the rest of the system?
Aww. You cut out the interesting part. Mar's orbit was going bonkers towards the end. I wanted to see that the system would have looked like after the orbits were stabilized.
Something I'd love to see you explore would be what it would take to terraform Mars into an inhabitable planet, and if it's conceivable with future technologies?
The reason I said it is because Jupiter's mass is 2.5 times of that of the other planet's mass combined. But, its core temperature is only 30000 degrees Celsius. So that's why.
Excellent stuff.. This kind of content is rare. Of course it's based on current understanding and some initial game-like simulation knowledge, but it's still very cool.
10:30 There is a process called star lifting that could take mass from the sun and use it to turn jupiter into a red dwarf. It would take less than 1% of the suns mass to do so and woudl not noticeably effect the suns output.
To get a star, just add hydrogen. My first thought was that you were going to add hydrogen to Jupiter to transform it. So how much hydrogen in terms of masses of Jupiters would it take?
I actually had wondered about this for quite some time. Wouldn't all of the mass you added have to be hydrogen since heavier elements wouldn't be conducive to fusion? You couldn't just redirect asteroids into Jupiter to increase it's mass I would think.
I just had a thought. As soon as I saw this video show up on my feed, it got me to wondering- What would happen if, somehow, Jupiter and Saturn rammed into each other? What would be the result? And, how would it affect the Earth, based on if Saturn got thrown against Jupiter, where Jupiter is, or if Jupiter got thrown against Saturn where Saturn now is.
If Jupiter rammed into Saturn, you'd have a big mess of planetary bits flying all over the place in many different directions, much of it now in highly elliptical orbits around the sun. If a planetary bit bigger than about 100 metres across hit the earth, we'd have a very very bad day.
I turned Jupiter into a star by erasing the sun, replacing the sun with the same sun but for some reason when you do that it flies through space taking the entire solar system with it, but I then put Rigel in it’s path which caused a supernova when it collided, that heated jupiter to the point of being a star. i then grew it to the full size of a supernova. Not sure how it got that hot from a supernova, it was at the center tho.
A couple of questions: Could Jupiter be compressed enough to ignite into a star (as in the movie 2001, I think) and even if it could, would the iron in the rocky core cause the star to die out pretty much as soon as it got started?
in 2001 it wasnt compressed, they literally just added mass to Jupiter. Which then doesnt make sense since all of Jupiters moons would then fall into the new sun, and all the planets in the solar system would get their orbits screwed.
Every planet and space body is expanding and matter is created inside and on the surface of the objects, they are growing like the whole universe is growing and expanding, fupiter is growing and will become a sun with its moons as planets and so on.. you can calculate as much as you want but this is fact. what you can do is think about the process involved in thi fenomena. best regards
Well...I've obsessed over Astronomy for decades...& while the gasses & the rest of the ingredients are there...Jupiter is actually STILL "too small" (although the largest planet in our solar system) & not massive enough to ignite like a star. If I've read, studied & done calculations properly, Jupiter would have to be 20X as massive to even be a "brown dwarf" (or what's known as a "failed star")...& 8X the mass of the 20X Jupiter (& much MORE hydrogen) to actually start the hydrogen fusion process of a VERY weak red "flare" dwarf star...but you're on the right track😉🤓 Your content is awesome (much like Astrum), Anton👍😎🤓
There isn't enough material in our solar system to make another star. We'd have to import some gas giants from other systems, and the shipping cost is where they get you.
Unless you have Amazon Prime!
Or starlift loads of material from the sun and dump it into jupiter, turning both into smaller, longer-lived stars, extending how long civilisation can survive in the solar system. Proxima centauri is only 0.123 solar masses.
@@shestewa6581 yeeep eventually the sun will release enough material...of course so many millions of years will be required
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If you believe, I can.
Jupiter, get back into Orbit and stop hanging out in You-tube comment sections.
Oh, and if you see Saturn you can tell him the same.
Jupiter You could make a religion out of this !
Jupiter well you have to need 78.8 your original mass
Jupiter lol wtf
JUPITER FOR PRESIDENT! XD (but wait if your here then your not in space and that means gravity is fuged up and THAT means SOMETING IZ GON HAPEN TO EARTH!! AHHHHH!! *Dead*
Her: He is probably thinking about other girls
Him: *can jupiter become a star?*
Thanks for reviving that meme
Pretty much true though
Huh dont offense girls like this. I am a girl. Girls aren't behind guys.
@@poulomisensharma6652 it is representative of what a girl is thinking vs what a guy is actually thinking.
Im not sure what you think it means but its got nothing to do with who is 'behind' who. Though usually the guy is behind the girl lol
Poulomi Sensharma I bet he’s not offending probably why it died
Idk. Jupiter has to work on his singing and dancing to become a star.
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Very instructive, i knew from childhood Jupiter was like a "failed star" in that the composition is about the same but it needs to be many times more massive to start its star reaction. Well thanks to you i like everybody else here know more precisely about it. :)
Jupiter is the biggest and yeah its a failed star I think and I don't want 2 stars in our solar system
"i KnEw FrOm ChILdHoOd" what you want an award or something you self centered knucklehead
The transition point between a gas-giant and brown-dwarf is 13 Jupiter-masses at which point the core is hot enough for Deuturium fusion and second threshold is 69 Jupiter-masses at which Lithium can be fused. The threshold for Hydrogen-fusion is 76 Jupiter-masses.
If jupiter were to collide with a brown dwarf, do you think that would ignite it to become a star???
For that to happen the brown-dwarf would have to be very massive - 75 Jupiter masses so that Jupiter colliding with it would push the brown-dwarf to the 76 Jupiter-mass threshold.
Nicholas Maude thank you so much for the reply!
Nicholas Maude let me ask you, there has been a lot of speculation of our solar system colliding or merging somehow with another system ( some say it's trappists, I have no idea) but I have had thoughts of the sun's twin nemesis colliding w Jupiter and have wondered if it would ignite Jupiter???? I wonder if the trappist Sun is big enough?? Who knows?? Thank you again for answering ... :)
There is no proof so far that Nemesis exists.
Short answer, no. Long answer, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
CreamyGravy jjuunanusunshujsjsu
I heard that long noooooo in Toad's voice xD
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:) Maybe so but I had this theory a long time before the movie "2010". I feel honored that Anton did a video on the subject after I posed this question on his Facebook page.
Theoretical answer: yes, if, somehow, Jupiter's mass were to increase sufficiently.
Thank you Jupiter for being our cosmic big-brother.
Evil saturn is better
"Hello wonderful person!"
Ohhhh how I needed to hear that. :)
Hmmmmmmm
I love how excited Anton sounds in his older content.
I was a bit taken aback, it’s like it’s a completely different person
well Jupiter can become a star if it goes on american idol
alpha yun get out of this room. 😋
Philippe DUE TO A COMEDICAL BODY THAT CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS MEDIOCRE, I DEMAND THAT YOU LEAVE THIS ROOM WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN
personally id rather send American idol and those stars to Jupiter imagine that one time show it would be worth the price of lol
alpha yun heh! Nice.😏
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In Clarke's 2010: Odyssey 2, the monolith-building civilization did just that
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Jupiter can be a star. It just has to get the right break out role...
Jupiter would make a great star in the remaking of Caligula.
Once it is a star, we can put a new earth around it.
And if it becomes a state of America XD
The excitement of this intro compared to your videos nowadays is... well different :D Thanks for making dope videos wonderful Anton!
Now put a habitable planet around Jupiter star
Just did that. Orbital period is about 4 days if a planet is constructed as near to Earth-like as possible. (yeah, I could have just orbited a second Earth there, but what fun is that?) Started with an asteroid that had been captured in Jupiter's orbit after it ate its moons and just crashed other asteroids into it, then other moons as it became larger. Finally, a bit of adjustment to the orbit and some parameters so it matched Earth and Jovia was born. :D
Many habitable worlds would arise from Jupiter turning into a star. Many of the natural satellites would become habitable. Eroupa would be a great place to make a human settlement. Well, maybe humanity should not even land on Europa and just settle the other natural satellites around Jupiter. The new star should be named, "Lucifer," after the brightest and most beautiful angel of light.
@@indridcold8433 Europa will most likely be pushed away due to gravity and radiation, which might indicate it arriving in Lucifer’s habitable zone. The only thing that europa doesn’t have is an atmosphere, and that’s really important.
yes
If Jupiter were to become a star, it would have to be a dwarf star.
no shit sherlock
And Mars would probably become habitable as it's temperature would get warmer. The Galilean moons would also become warm
Haha good one!
What about the crystalline hydrogen in Jupiter? Surely that is a super-intense form of energy we still cannot fully understand. Perhaps Jupiter can become a star larger than a dwarf we really do not know. And the fact that the sun appears to have more mass because it has hyper-velocity material in it's interior that amplify gravitational effects makes it seem more massive than it truly is in reality.
@dr2brain except that red dwarfs give of shit tons of xrays and solar wind and are highly veriable in there output, they seem like a good idea because they last so long but in reality they are a terrible idea if you want to live on a planet, if you want to live in habitats orbiting the star with loads of rock used for shielding it's not a bad plan though as you don't need to worry about the radiation or veirable output as you would be controlling the temp of the habitats anyway.
I love Jupiter the way it is. To me it is already a star.
then you're adumbass
@@idkbro4932 They meant that jupiter is like a superstar popstar etc. Not a literal star
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Failed star
Everyone knows that all you need is a monolith.
few Atomic Bomb sends by Donald Trump should do the trick. he is always ready for big bangs... where was I? oh SPACE FORCE
This was one of your best and most organized videos! Thanks!
I've had this question in my head since I was 7 years old man thank you for giving me an answer realistic and reasonable math can fix everything
What happens if all the planets mixed together???
Omqx nothing happens just collisions and a merged gas giant would be the outcome
Omqx tron he's already done it with moons
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Uranus would burst
Carl CIFER shitty pun here ! gj
Anton my mom likes your chanel because it is very educational.
Your mom's probably talking about Chanel fragrance but not this channel
Channel*
Say hi to your mum for me, and tell her I'm sorry I didn't visit yesterday.
No worries.
Plenty more where you came from.
Your Mom Oh shit xD
All you need is the monolith from 2010, then you can.
2001*
2010 is the sequel movie, where they turn jupiter into a star
I just looked it up and now I feel stupid.
I didn't just see the movie, either. I read the books but it had been such a long time I thought there was only one
Yeah. I think what the Monoliths did was intensifying the density of Jupiter, not adding more mass as in the video here. Jupiter was literally sucked/squeezed inside itself and became denser and denser. Until nuclear fusion was ignited.
Monoliths. Lots of them.
As Doc on the Space Engine Discord put it, “Brown Dwarfs are wanna be stars that are gas giants”
Hay milky way i not gona eat u
I really love how the logic of this game says "crash a bunch of planets together-- and you'll get a star."
Jupiter's made of mostly the same junk as the sun, so if you were to smash a bunch of Jupiter like objects together, you'll get a star.
I don't think Universe Sandbox is a reliable method to science in reality.
Okay, sure. But mistakes can be made. Just because an astrophysicist made it doesn't mean everything in it is a perfect replica of the real thing.
Daniel Preciado like if a GIGANTIC Bucket of water was poured on the sun then a new Star would be born with 2 times the mass of our sun
Anton can change that, he literally does stuff that aren't even meant to be done it this game. Trust me, he knows what he's doing.
That's why it's a simulation
i love when people use the word science in a weird way. just like "is a reliable method to SCIENCE in real life" lmao
Don't listen to any of these shit talkers, Jupiter. You be what the fuck you want to be.
Always wondered and wanted to see this. 👏
I had always wondered, Thank you for covering this. Love this content!!!
“Hello wonderful person...” INSTANT LIKE
Well that was 12 minutes longer than it needed to be.
Much love Anton. New sub I love your content. Keep it coming!
At least someone says I'm a wonderful person 💛
Dont pray
oh youre the guy from what da math! i remember watching this all the time when i was a kid! i’ve been watching your newer videos for like 2 years now and i never realised that you were the same person.
Caller:Is this the crusty crab?Patrick Star:NO THIS IS PATRICK!
But we know gravity isn't only way to start fusion reaction.
Ron Brideau No, but pressure is needed. Gravity is the best way such high constant pressure can be sustained. Magnetically crushing fuel together works as well, but nature doesn't have electromagnetic coils or high power sockets.
Remember that science is never complete, and assuming we know everything about a star is naive. New data shows that Sol is not powered by nuclear fission, but rather, Birkeland Currents.
HiveTyrant36 You're right that stars don't use nuclear fission. Can you imagine how much uranium you'd need?
Nova Solarius well, the model states that it's helium (or is it hydrogen) that undergoes chemical change over and over into iron. Except, they never explain how the lightest element made it to the center.
HiveTyrant36 It's a nuclear change, not a chemical one. Stars are too hot to permit chemical reactions. As for hydrogen reaching the core, that's simple. Plasma is incredibly hot, and hot fluids move around. Helium doesn't build up in the core because of currents in the plasma. That said, heavier elements do stay nearer to the center. This is why larger stars are layered.
If we take that missing mass out of our sun via star-lifting, would the sun itself get noticable darker/cooler?
nope once You become a Star You either explode or Turn into a black Hole If the Star is Big enough
@@THOMAS-oj8bb that's not the only ways stars die. Our own sun should become a white dwarf at the end of its life.
Make a time lapse of an asteroid field making planets? o:
Mira Luna ooh
Watching this now I realize you've mellowed down a lot in your tone in your newer videos.
I really like that, your videos are relaxing as well as intriguing
Anton if you see this, I love this old style of video, and at this point would just love to see you make a secondary channel just for fun gameplays of Universe Sandbox and games alike
I’ve learned: Jupiter can become a star 💫 it just needs the right motivation
His heel, will bruise the serpants head, the bottom of Jupiter hit the top of Saturn already, scientists know this
Jupiter will become a Sun once God says it's time, and the new earth and new heaven will happen.
*meanwhile in neptune*
Uranus: Neptune, did you feel that
Neptune: nope 😐
WHO CARES IF YOUR FIRST OR SECOND
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What program is this? I would love to play around on it. Space Engine doesn't cut it.
Spaceman Spliff universe sandbox
its called universe sandbox 2
Did you try reading the description?
@@pogo575 Did you try telling him/her the name of the game?
Omg, that enthustiastic greeting blew me away, haha. You're much calmer nowadays. :P
You're so much calmer in 4 years time. Anton on red bull 🤣
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lol Jupiter looks terraformed somehow XD
Are twinned habitable planets possible. From time to time they pop up in science fiction, but do not seem plausible .
By twinned planets do you mean two planets with a center of mass between then, like we and our moon, but just with a bigger moon, or two planets that have the same orbit but are on the opposite sides of their sun?
The first one is unlikely but possible. (Having two planets with the necessary traits for life that close is like winning the lottery, 3 times in a row.) The second one is pretty much impossible to exist naturally. (That is more like winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life.)
Z Zs yeah something like that
That's binary planets and yes they exsist.
Z Zs could you have a planet with two habitable moons in a binary star system?
Any large bodies of water on the planets would have an extreme tide.
That's beautiful.
FYI the link to Amazon is no longer available. I was thinking of purchasing it if it were cheaper than the $25 on Steam... I'll just wait for a sale. Looks much better than the original.
Instead of "you can't turn Jupiter into a star", you should take the approach of an Issac Arthur vid and explain ways you could turn it into a star.
In that format you are staying positive while still showing how difficult it would be to turn Jupiter into a star.
What if you got more "stuff" from the sun? How much of the sun would it take to kick start Jupiter ?
kingdom come Well I believe you would have to check how many Jupiters "fit" into the Sun (mass wise) and then just extract 78 or 79 masses of Jupiter from the Sun and see what that equates to in terms of mass of the Sun.
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I like your video. Can you tell me what simulation software you are using?
Randy Dunn any luck finding out I too need to know
Laschworks Television
I believe it is Universe Sandbox 2 that can be found at universesandbox dot com. It is a 25 dollar program, which is not bad at all for what it does.
Randy Dunn you can install for free :)
Universe sandbox2
Randy Dunn You can also buy it on Steam.
What if we nuked Jupiter?
Not much considering nukes have been used on Earth. It would just disappear into the core and be lost
the storms on jupiter have as much destructive force than any nuke we could throw at it
It wouldn't start Jupiter burning in the fire of thermonuclear conflagration, it would just make it very angry at Earth. Best not to try it.
We all ready did when we sent a probe with a nuclear reactor plunging down on it
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That's nerve racking.
Potentially it could save us from that Asteroid that's supposed to come around 5 days before Christmas if this simulation were to be correct. Apparently somebody said in a journal that there was an Asteroid in line to come by to Earth every so often.
Your channel is so relaxing... love putting it and fall asleep to discussions of the stars.
Didn't Jupiter sort of become a star in that one movie?
Yeah in 2010.
Hi Jupiter it’s me Neptune !
lets make earth a moon of Jupiter, it will look awesome
Earth was once a moon of Saturn so you aren't far off lol. They won't teach you that in school though.
HiveTyrant36 That's because what you said is bullshit
I would've loved to see what became of the solar system at the end. Maybe rerun this simulation and let it run for a couple years more (maybe even a few decades/hundred)
So far the inner solar system seemed unscathed. No doubt it wont remain as such but I loved this !
Wow! So much energy in these older videos! XD
If you introduce enough oxygen into jupiter's atmosphere, the flammable gasses would have enough oxidizer to make it possible for the planet burst into flames.
Then all you have to do is introduce a lit match.
It would be what would _look_ like a star for a while, until it burns up completely
niko 2: electric boogaloo The temperature inside of Jupiter is already enough to start a reaction like that, no matches needed. Just put enough oxygen in there and watch it burn away into nothingness...nope also not what would happen: the gasses would just be replaced by themselves after reacting to oxygen, and whatever else there is to react with. So just think of Jupiter + Oxygen -> (in the presence of heat) OxyJupiter!
Oh and if I wrote something inaccurate please feel free to correct me: I haven't done chemistry since 12 months ago, we 1st year Computer Engineering students don't need that shite it seems! 😂
The reaction would indeed make more gasses, which would then comprise jupiter, but the light would still be there, probably
niko 2: electric boogaloo Yeah, shit loads of it!🤣 It would probably look like a flash in the sky...except it would last a few months I believe...😃
i wonder if the reaction would alter jupiter's mass enough to mess with the other planets...
no oxyclean
It already is a brown dwarf star since it emits infrared radiation and produces more energy than it receives from the sun so it is by definition a star 😌
JUPITER ALWAYS BEEN CLASSED AS A FAILED STAR. ONE THAT NEVER GREW UP COMPLETELY. BECAUSE IT'S MADE UP FROM SAME ELEMENTS OF THE STAR SO IT CAN EASILY BE FUSED AT RIGHT TEMPERATURE OR IDEAL TIME.
That mean if jupiter is 0.1 au then its not a star
It needs to nuclear fusion this is like saying a random metal cube from deep space that glows dim red is a star
what program is?
Universe Sandbox
it is not StarFox 64?
It depends on the definition, actually. Some astronomers classify objects with roughly the same mass and composition of Jupiter (which incidentally, is almost exactly the same composition of our Sun) as Brow Dwarfs already, and what puts Jupiter as a planet is the way it was formed, not it's size, mass or make up.
Yes, but what do all talking about is self ignition. Could you not set off a fusion explosion using the tsar bomba per se?
A brown dwarf IS as star
dumbass no it isnt
No fusion = no star
Its a starting star so i guess its a star
No it isnt its a failed abomination
Its never going to be a star if it cannot sustain hydrogen fusion you stupid ass. Sorry for bad language. I just had to say it tho
yoo
FYI u got first! Excellent! bro, if I were you, I would have said first!
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oh anton... assuming there is only one way to turn a giant gas object into a star..in the right conditions jupiter is more than massive enough to ignite into a star, as long as there is enough electricity and it is far enough away from another star like sol, which it is not.. think electromagnetism...so if jupiter was further from the sun there is every chance it could ignite
Correct me if I am wrong, but might Jupiter get any additional mass when Sun will be turning from red giant to a dwarf?
There are larger exoplanets if I'm not mistaken. So Jupiter does not exactly represent a threshhold between planet and star. I don't even know if one has been determined.
If Jupiter was a minimum mass star then it would be around as bright as the full moon when it's at opposition, decreasing in brightness by around 55% when at conjunction. Here's my explanation: The Sun is around 400,000 times brighter than the full moon from earth. A low-mass red dwarf (eg Proxima Centauri) is around 1/25,000th as luminous as the sun. Jupiter is on average slightly more than five times the distance from the sun than earth, hence at opposition Jupiter is 4 astronomical units from Earth or just over hence the brightness factor of Jupiter at opposition equals approximately 25,000 x (4^2) = 25,000 x 16 = 400,000.
What would happen if Jupiter lost all gas layers except for it's helium layer and core? Or Saturn? Would they be little mini stars? Would they produce light? Would their surface remain at 10,000 degrees?
fun fact: if you throw 90 jupiters into eachother it would make a brown dwarf
''a failed star that are a huge disappointment to their moms'' - kurzgesagt
At 12 Jupiter mass the core would become hot and dense enough to fuse deuterium and tritium to produce helium 3 or so. But to fuse protium-protium or other lighter combination if needed more than that.
How does this look so good
19 Jupiters would become a brown Dorf 50 Jupiters would make a main sequence 100 Jupiters would make a giant 1 thousand Jupiters would make a hypergiant
Wow imagine the nightsky being illuminated by a Red Dwarf, awsome!
We'd be dead😂
What if you lit off Castle Bravo in Jupiter's atmosphere? Burn? Explode? What would happen without Jupiter's gravitational influence on the rest of the system?
These are such cool videos! Great work Anton
Idea: Try To Turn Jupiter Into A Star
Jupiter burns
Saturn:Ooh a basketball!
Jupiter:no nO Ow Ooh Ouch!
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Funny joke
Aw he sounded so different back then. Glad you feel comfortable being more relaxed now. (:
Aww. You cut out the interesting part. Mar's orbit was going bonkers towards the end. I wanted to see that the system would have looked like after the orbits were stabilized.
Something I'd love to see you explore would be what it would take to terraform Mars into an inhabitable planet, and if it's conceivable with future technologies?
WHAT DA MATH your videos are so nice
The reason I said it is because Jupiter's mass is 2.5 times of that of the other planet's mass combined. But, its core temperature is only 30000 degrees Celsius. So that's why.
Excellent stuff.. This kind of content is rare. Of course it's based on current understanding and some initial game-like simulation knowledge, but it's still very cool.
Gives new meaning to the song "Drops of Jupiter"
10:30 There is a process called star lifting that could take mass from the sun and use it to turn jupiter into a red dwarf. It would take less than 1% of the suns mass to do so and woudl not noticeably effect the suns output.
It won’t become a star until it rides the casting couch.
To get a star, just add hydrogen. My first thought was that you were going to add hydrogen to Jupiter to transform it. So how much hydrogen in terms of masses of Jupiters would it take?
a lot
it wouldnt though cuz it wouldnt have enough mass
I actually had wondered about this for quite some time. Wouldn't all of the mass you added have to be hydrogen since heavier elements wouldn't be conducive to fusion? You couldn't just redirect asteroids into Jupiter to increase it's mass I would think.
I had always thought of setting Jupiter in fire would turn it into a star...feel sorry for him...you'll never make it into STAR club.
I just had a thought. As soon as I saw this video show up on my feed, it got me to wondering-
What would happen if, somehow, Jupiter and Saturn rammed into each other? What would be the result? And, how would it affect the Earth, based on if Saturn got thrown against Jupiter, where Jupiter is, or if Jupiter got thrown against Saturn where Saturn now is.
If Jupiter rammed into Saturn, you'd have a big mess of planetary bits flying all over the place in many different directions, much of it now in highly elliptical orbits around the sun.
If a planetary bit bigger than about 100 metres across hit the earth, we'd have a very very bad day.
You don't need to add more jupiters. Just more of its heavy elements to increase pressure and thus to create fusion.
I turned Jupiter into a star by erasing the sun, replacing the sun with the same sun but for some reason when you do that it flies through space taking the entire solar system with it, but I then put Rigel in it’s path which caused a supernova when it collided, that heated jupiter to the point of being a star. i then grew it to the full size of a supernova. Not sure how it got that hot from a supernova, it was at the center tho.
A couple of questions: Could Jupiter be compressed enough to ignite into a star (as in the movie 2001, I think) and even if it could, would the iron in the rocky core cause the star to die out pretty much as soon as it got started?
in 2001 it wasnt compressed, they literally just added mass to Jupiter. Which then doesnt make sense since all of Jupiters moons would then fall into the new sun, and all the planets in the solar system would get their orbits screwed.
Every planet and space body is expanding and matter is created inside and on the surface of the objects, they are growing like the whole universe is growing and expanding, fupiter is growing and will become a sun with its moons as planets and so on.. you can calculate as much as you want but this is fact. what you can do is think about the process involved in thi fenomena. best regards
Incredibly versatile software you have there.
Well...I've obsessed over Astronomy for decades...& while the gasses & the rest of the ingredients are there...Jupiter is actually STILL "too small" (although the largest planet in our solar system) & not massive enough to ignite like a star.
If I've read, studied & done calculations properly, Jupiter would have to be 20X as massive to even be a "brown dwarf" (or what's known as a "failed star")...& 8X the mass of the 20X Jupiter (& much MORE hydrogen) to actually start the hydrogen fusion process of a VERY weak red "flare" dwarf star...but you're on the right track😉🤓
Your content is awesome (much like Astrum), Anton👍😎🤓