7 years with the manual tire changer, and still doing it “WRONG!” SO WHAT???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024
- After using the manual tire changer for 7 years this video is going to show the tips and tricks used to dismount and mount a tire.
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You are correct "take little bites, don't get greedy" I could only do two of four 16" tires on my own today using all of my hypermetabolism 100 lbs, Dawn dish soap and a short tire iron, no manual tire changer, nearly put my back out so I'll have to complete them tomorrow. Even near the end when the tire looks like its stretched beyond its limit halfway on the last fight don't be discouraged cuz Dawn will be there to slip everything into place and you will be amazed. All the tire shops within 100 kms here are booked up till the middle of next week and winter is pretty much here.
That's exactly how I do it. I'm a lady and I believe this way is working smarter, not harder !! Thank you so much!! God bless!
Unless there is a red dot also, then the red dot supercedes the yellow dot.
I have one tip, there is a valley in the wheel for the bead to drop into to allow the other side of bead to go further out for less stress on the bead while trying to pry it onto wheel.
Since your hands are full doing it manually, you can use a short piece of 2x4 to hold that bead down in the valley opposite of where you are prying.
Here's to hoping you can visualize what I'm describing 😆 🤣 😂 cheers 🍻
Thanks Dave. See, still doing it wrong! HAHAHA!
I've done thousands like that. My dad used to own a junkyard and thats where i got my first job.
All tyres needed to be separated from the rims and there were many.
We used a manual setup something like yours. When you get the hang of it its actually a fast method
Thanks for stopping in Dan! Not like your top notch diagnoses but a video none the less!
Yep, the club end of the bar is use to the less. I found an old timey bar at a flea market. Now, that baby will do the job. Also, get some real bead lube, you can thank me later. Comes in a gallon tub, thicker than axle grease, can be diluted with water. Never use hand cleaner, it makes your patches turn loose. The best thing that ever happened is i broke that floppy deal that sticks in the lug bolt hole. Now, i can drop it down from the top, much easier. I have done some rough tires here at the junkpile. I have a hi lifr jack with a foot welded on it, put it under my service truck bumper, and use that to break tough beads. Truck is full of tools, air compressor and welder, so its heavy. Sometimes things will sit in a bind for an hour before that bead pops loose. Truck goes boom, hits the ground, cloud of dust. On filling tires, take the Schrader valve out and use a rubber tipped pistol blower. Starting fluid spray works very good too, but i only use it when i have trouble. Driving down a country road the other day. Saw a bunch of thrown out tires, two commodes, and some busted furniture piled up. I got them tires. Went back for the commodes, but they were gone. Still running them tires. Yep, im one of "them" kinda guys. I found 35 decent tires at one cubbyhole junk pile. We have a farm. Lots of tractors, pull type plows with their own wheels, trailers, hundreds of tires on equipment as i type. All between dad, brother, and me. Few tandem dual gooseneck trailers, cattle trailers, bumper pull trailers, dump trucks, spreader trucks, it adds up kinda rather quick like. Plus, we have a whole separate logging outfit. I was coming home yesterday and met dad headed to the sawmill with a load of logs. We use an F800 truck with a gooseneck trailer outfitted with G 14 ply tires. Built the entire trailer ourselves. Built another one we can put bunks on, they are removable. But the first one i mentioned is for logs or pipe, it has no floor, just frame with bunks.
Outstanding video. I have watched many of these tire changer videos and liked yours the best. Your explanations are complete and easily understood.
thank you!
Hey disgruntled, just a handy suggestion. Get a HF bar magnet(1"x18") usually a free item, place it on top of the bead breaking steel tube, push magnet torwards column touching column, now lift tube, where magnet metal frame contacts underside of round hub, mark and cut bar magnet. Tack weld magnet to column and underside of round hub. Now when you're breaking the bead and turning the tire the magnet will hold tube and shoe out of your way. Good luck 😊
HF has done away with the freebies, at least I haven't seen any in recent history-
Have to admit, that drew me in to the store, but I tend to only go there on rare occasions now, if I need something specific that I can't find elsewhere.
Great video, I don't have the manual changer I just use a few tire irons. I put the tire out in the sun for awhile before I mount it. Thermal expansion or being a bit more pliable from the heat seems to make it easier.
I mout the tire with the same side. I also have some smaller like 18" tire spoons for mounting like lawnmower and ATV tires before I had this and I use sometimes just those spoons or one of those spoons and the big bar to put it on.
The mark on the tire so that and you line it up with thie stem, you can put it back the same way we came off without affecting the balance. in certain cases where you have to patch the tire or any other reason you need to take your tire off put the same tire back on
Ive been using mine for 23yrs and saved $thousands of dollars. You can also cut a tire tread about 6 inch circle or square put a hole in middle to be able to drop it on the middle of the machine. And drop a piece on the angle stopper when your breaking tire down.
I did four tires like that and the secret is the lube keep lubing it or not your fight😅
I was going to answer that with something Michael Scott ( reference to The Office tv show) would say but I didn't! I agree totally and dish soap works great for me.
That little bit of air in the tire tip appears to be golden! I’m with you the other end of the bar is worthless. I have purchased a couple of tire irons from Harbor Freight that work well for putting the tire back on. Thanks for the movie!
thanks for watching!
I've never been able to mount a tire without that tool rolling out, I use 2 spoons. Mine has pretty much been completely welded, reinforced with gussets, parts remade with heavier steel. I'll have to try your trick to break the bead. Nothing like red paint on your nice wheels ;)
I’ll try to make/post a video on how to use the mounting end of the tire bar next time I mount some tires. Its a STEEP learning curve, i only learned how after I ripped a bead prying a tire on. Best instruction I can give without a video is that the duck bill end of the bar is used to stretch the tire on not ride, roll, pop, or pry it. The flat rides the rim, the bead rides the upright tang. It works a treat so much better then prying them on, just a b**** to learn.
I have seen a couple of videos where it worked. I reshaped mine with a grinder and it made it easier for me to use. I bought a budget duckhead set-up but the radius didn't work on smaller rims.
Hey Mike👋
I've had that machine for years I see your issue. Some rims are a pain for sure but you push the tire down onto the skinny part of the rim while putting it on and it holds that tool and tire together. Push the tire down on the skinny part of the rim while taking it off as well and she won't bind up like that. Hope that makes since 👍happy holidays brother
Thanks Steve! I will give that a try next time. Happy Holidays to you also!
Great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
@antoniochavez508 thanks! means alot
You can't beat the hand tire changer it's been around just about forever. The dishwashing liquid works better than the lube you buy for the supply house for sure. Merry Christmas to you and Helga.
Thanks Jim! Same to you and Mrs. Jim the car guy!
RU Glyde?
Mike you can buy cheap plastic clamps that clip on the wheel edge to stop the tyre edge flipping back off as you lever the tyre back on....your using a mole wrench for the same job....around 3 or 4 bucks each.
Your doing a great job.....I use levers for the whole job 3 ft long.....and I take smaller steps or bites than you.
Been at it since I was 17....now 71....good work out.
The only thing I would use the HF rig for would be its bead breaker....quite good....I have my own....made myself.
I see you have a HF bubble balancer.....best place for thats is in the scrap bin.....it may look balanced and kid you.....but it wont be......they are total crap.
Keep up the good work man.....I like your style Sir.
Nick from the UK.
I haven't used one of these yet (just bought it this morning) but from watching other videos when they use that other side of the bar they move in a counter clockwise rotation. Looked like when you were showing us how it wasn't working you were trying to go clockwise...maybe just change direction? Idk. I'll be playing with mine shortly!
I didn't show it in the video but I have tried about every way I could think of to no avail. good luck with yours!!!
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic I figured, thanks! I'm looking forward to playing with it. Always pay $115 about every two months for the shop to do various tires for me. Hopefully going to save myself some cash. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours
yep I save a bunch of money by doing it myself. I also like the fact that on Sundays and holidays I don't have to look for a place to fix a tire! enjoy the holiday.
Thanks for this video! Had trouble getting the new tire on the rim, the last lip. The little 'bites' and the vice grip tip did it for me! Got my tires on, and I'm rolling!
my pleasure!
Iv'e had red dots and yellow dots and all sorts of colored dots, however i was prone to having some pretty wild hallucinations, so now i just stick to english tea and remember the wild times i had at Woodstock and Running Tree!!!
I see the mounting part is a challenge. Just wondering if it is possble to push the "far end" of the tire down into to the "channel" of the rim so that it will give some slack to the other end that you are working to the bead in ?
The way I see it u do what works for you everybody has there way of doin things
Thanks! I agree!
I got my tyre changer roughly the same time as you. I remember watching your vid of the time. I fit tyres exactly the same way as that knuckle end is useless. Remember when fitting the tyre to keep the opposite side in the deep part of the wheel well to ease fitting. Good tip with the grips. I always use those from the get go to save chasing it around the rim.
I will try your tip of leaving the tyre partially inflated when breaking the bead. That's always the hardest part.
that tire bar you bent and reinforced- I've bent /destroyed 3 of them over the years. Also, have broke off the tip on 2 of them. A lot of my work is on older, harder tires making it more difficult. am sure many others have bent up those bars too. I too mount my outerbead the same way you are. have been doing it that way for over 10 years. yes, smaller 'bites' work well, one learns easy fairly fast. Have also been using the vise grip method too for many years with no issues. I use several layers of folded up towel with good results but, like the idea of using a piece of rubber. best to you
thanks for the reply!
Nicely done sir, stay blessed hope to see more of that shows.
The Disgruntled Mechanic.. Right or wrong it looks like it worked, the old tire is off and the new tire is mounted..
lol, yes sir, your awesome, thanks for this post, served me with helpful tips I was searching for. great job all the way around
@@themiller-highlifeguy thanks!
One guy pointed out that since you're bolting the stand down to the floor you can get rid of the X-frame at the bottom and just bolt the square metal base straight to the floor. Then the post sits flush to the floor, you can throw down some cardboard for protecting the rim. Another guy suggested to put some heat shrink on the end of the bar so it doesn't scratch up the rim.
You don't have the tire below the edge of the rim I've got one like that I use the duckbill all the time it works perfect you need to keep the tire push down when you're using the duckbill below the lip it works perfect for me all the time
I agree that this is probably the issue. Need to get the sidewall down off the rim and it allows some slack so the tire can get more of an oval shape. Then the duck bill will “normally” work.
There are tires that never agree and I use the steel tire irons to then pry that last bit on like you did.
I do a lot of garden tractors and they can be a real bigger as the old tires can be dry rotted so no stretch. Cases like that there is no shame in cutting the bead on the tire to help get those off. Car tires rarely are that difficult.
Great video regardless!
Very handy tips! I struggle with changing truck tires esp breaking the beads. I'll use your suggestion next time. I bought a no mar tire bar to replace the HF bar and it helps a ton as well as getting the tires warm..
Thanks! Hope it helps.
Good job sir iv got m ed 2 tire iron bar made for changing tiresiv had my red tire machiondamn soap is great keep good work sir
welcome back mike! i always use the power tire machine myself but you did it pretty well ! yea the yellow dot is runout and red is weight red overrides yellow and blue in nothing but who knows if it makes a difference and merry christmas!
Thanks same to you.
The tire bead goes in the upper notch of the bar! I was doing the same as you before I found that out
When job is done and you still have the same number of fingers as you started with, no ambulance calls. It was not done wrong.
Roger that! and the in this case the tire stays on and holds air!!
I’m going to weld a round piece of tubing that will fit down over the center piece to a square piece of tubing that will fit over the bar. This may keep the bar from twisting and coming up out of the rim when using the duck end.
Good job.
Thanks!
I don't really like the shape of the the ends of this manual tire changing machine, however I used to work in a motorcycle shop, and we used machine with similar mechanisms on the motorcycle tires. The bar we used had one end for removing the tire, and one end was curved around with a circular piece of metal welded on top. The curve went around the edge of rim, and the circle would push the tire's bead around. The key to making this all work was to make sure that the bead on the opposite side of the rim was in the valley. I could have the old tire off and the new tire on in less than 2 minutes if everything was ready, and it took me about 5-7 minutes from breaking the bead, changing the tire and having their tire balanced on the bubble balancer. I've never seen a tire iron like it, so I think it was something that the owner made.
I see a video that shows exactly how to use your bar. Never mind everything else he does, and the machine mounted to the pallet, but at ~16 minutes, he shows how easy it is to use the curved end. I hope it helps. th-cam.com/video/_fKOt1ylEiI/w-d-xo.html
Thankyou for your sharing information Thankyou
My pleasure!
How funny. I watched your video to see how the clubbed end of the bar was supposed to work. I use the same end for mounting and dismounting like you resort to doing. I use an extra smaller tire iron to hold my progress instead of vice grips.
yep I gave up on that duckbill end as you saw. so many comment on how I should use that end but no one can point me to THEIR video using it correctly!
th-cam.com/video/_J_2SD-snd0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=URkphj4VdT61e04d
This one shows it being used as intended; what should be stressed even watching that one is that the bar should be kept at a higher angle than horizontal when mounting, to ensure the ramp guides the tire in and the hook stays engaged with the rim edge.
This tool is not for use with any wheels where appearance matters, because of the nature of how it works. However, it's still going to be better than just levering it on with the flat end. The flat end is intended to be used for demounting as was shown.
To reduce marring aluminum rims I use an old inner tube. Cut a hole in the middle, slice a side for rod
I am not placing any warranties or taking any responsibility of my opinions/memories but when we for very long time ago were in a tire-change class I remember the teacher told us that they tested how much can a new car tire take pressure, and he said the rim broke first! So I quess there is not so much of danger to pump a double the norm pressure (Norm= 2,5 bar -> 4-5 bar) in a new car tire to have it pop... Old ones are sure a different thing.
Ya know even though I know they are going to pop I still jump a bit when they do because you never really know where that pop may be coming from! HA!
The roughest part of this job is seating the 2nd bead when the new tire goes on.
Hard to persuade the bead of the tire down into the relief channel on the rim while slipping the rest of tire on. 💢👊
Ireland not have many on sale tyre changer harbour freight not on sale in Ireland
Hi Mike
I have the same tire changer . The soap throws off the balance eh 😅😅 Mike I do think many watch howtoo videos just to find a complaint on how it's done wrong :) Awesome demonstration bud and your actually doing it in a way that works . I could never get that hooked end to work either .
Thanks Steve! Yeah i'll just keep doing it as I do it. It works!
No problem works done is count well done
If u push the tire down on the side that is already on when mounting it makes it so much easier it gives slack instead of the tire being so tight against the wheel
yep
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!!
7:14 Be very careful you don't get the kiss of death and do not owe the Don a favour could come back to bit you lol
Excellent !
That's the only way I could use it too, It would always slip out, so I only use that end.
If you had 2 tire irons it may be faster. Also the water and soap will rust the inside rim . Use tire bead paste.
@kendalgee5808 where I live the calcium from winters will rot out the rim from the outside before the soapy water ever will from the inside. just saying.
Nice Work, Mike👍
TY!
You are using the mounting tool backwards, put the other side down and turn it, i put a little handle on it to keep it straight, wrap it with tape so you don’t scratch the rim, would love to show you a picture of how I did mine but don’t see any way to do that in here!
That's a good idea but I think it would be easier to use two bars with a flat bar also
Your beating the snot out of that rim! Also tire is not fully in drop center stretching the cords in tire
See!
That duckbill end of that bar is absolutely worthless. I *THINK* that if the contact point on that end of the bar was flat to keep it from rolling as you push the bar....it might be the only needed mod other than reinforcing the bead breaker.
c est une bonne video , c est bien mon ami continue
Your issue is that you need to push down on the tire when mounting it, I have an old coats 4040 and you have to push down on the side opposite your bar push tills it’s just below that little bump in the rim……nice job though you have to be a real man to mount your own tires. My step dad used to be able to dismount with a hammer and a couple of bars…..break the bead by driving the car around the tire.
I too could not get that bar to work. It just jammed and twisted out of my hands.
It is relegated to the bead breaker now
What you need is a new, cheap to make lever, like the one I came up with in these links
th-cam.com/video/H_c2ZMIYWdE/w-d-xo.html
and even easier to make
th-cam.com/video/W8MddFsFmgA/w-d-xo.html
...and no rim scratching.
It may take the "dis" out of your "gruntled" though :)
appreciate it but I have no problem using it as I do. maybe I just don't care to be gruntled???
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic I get that! 😁
That's right. This is TH-cam, show me. I was so busy responding to comments on my last video I almost missed this one. I always enjoy "tips" as this is how we learn. You got your monies worth out of that tire. The only difference between you and Eric O is that when he cleans the rim, the rim spins. When you clean the rim, you spin. (ha ha) I like that "don't get greedy". Does Helga understand why she can never find her dish washing soap? :) Miss you both!
Plenty of dish soap for both of us! Yeah hope to get to see you sometime soon!
man you are doing that the hard way... Get the duck bill and attachment easy peasy
I do not think this way is hard at all. works just fine for me
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic i see your happy with doing it this way but watch the videos using the attachment make you life a lot easier. It does cost 200 dollars
yeah I have watched the videos. hell I only paid $39 for the changer! ha!
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic i understand that' i bought the same tire changer and bubble balancer i am going to get the attachment Just haven't got around to it yet.. They say work smarter not harder.
Damn whatre you disgruntled about lol? Yes the duckbill-end is a royal pain in the rear and yes I use the other end as well and then pry only the last section up and over
What a funny guy
Cool
Thanks!
i say that ever works for you
7:47🤔🤔🤔🤔 You're lucky Helga doesn't watch your videos
HAHAHAHA! Ya know I didn't even catch that! Sometimes ya just gotta do do what ya gotta do!! Any port in the storm as they say!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Right! So what! As long as the job is done
LEEEEEKKK!!!! Thanks brother!!! And nothing or noone is hurt!!
wow.. 100 tires and he doesn't understand still how to mount the tire!!!
He has to push the far end down in the groove middle of the rim. Then the tire doesn't has as much tension as it does when still seating up all around.
the title says it all "still doing it wrong"! and none blew up, flew apart, or came off the rim.
Yeah I haven't even watched the video but I'm gonna comment anyway because this is what everyone does Yeah but I have unsubscribed for absolutely no reason whatsoever just because😘😘😘😘😘
You are so lucky you NEVER get any of those types of comments!!! HAHAHA!
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic I do and I just laugh at them and I make it even worse for them It's good phone for me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was being sarcastic when I said that! I have seen the comments on your channels and your responses. This was call out to all these "experts!"
I want one now just because
I've bought for that reason before!
👍💯⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🏆
They make a spoon for that work....stop fu*king around and get the right tools for the job
yeah ok
You do you, and perhaps the right way is harder, but I can tell you exactly what you’re doing wrong with the mount end:
You are hooked onto the rim lip where the bead is already below the lip and you are trying to push forward as if that will force the bead above the crossover point down. Of course, it refuses to… hence the problem.
You are actually supposed to be hooked onto the lip past the crossover point where the bead is still above the rim lip. The tire bead that is above the rim lip is supposed to ride along the flat outer face of the bar’s mount end. When you angle the bar it tilts the flat side past the rim lip so that the bead will slip down as you rotate away. Of course, this only works if the opposite side is pulled toward the center of the rim so that there is enough slack for the mount end to pull one end past the edge of the rim lip.
Not telling you to do it that way. Just telling you how it’s supposed to work and why it wasn’t working for you as demonstrated. Hope you appreciate it. :)
make a video and post it so can see exactly how it works as I asked previous commenters and no one has done it.
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic Wish I could but I only have the Mojolever for motorcycle rims now. Still, looking at the Mojolever is how I figured out the Pittsburgh/Harbor Freight mount head back when I still had it. Find a picture of the Mojolever and pay attention to the shape on the top side of the mount end and it’ll probably click for you too.
The mount end of the Mojolever bar part is not flat and is angled to push the bead out. The hook underneath obviously extends further than the rim and the bead, but the bar will be at an angle (demount head higher) that puts the bead past the edge of the rim. As the hook end moves out of the way the bead that was pushed out can slip under the rim lip on the trailing side. The bead that was already below the lip is what pulls more bead down from the mount head as the tool turns.
The No-Scuff Tire Tool and the one Sixtyfiveford made on TH-cam with ball bearings work with the same principle: Hook onto the lip where the bead is still above the rim and lever the bead out past the edge of the rim so that it can drop down as you rotate. It only works when you angle the bar and push the opposite bead toward the drop center of the rim. The ball bearing just means the bead doesn’t have to drag on the mount head as it gets pushed out, which the Mojolever and Pittsburgh bars do. Lowers friction.
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic Found one that shows it right. Try “How to Use a Manual Tire Changer - Harbor Freight” by Ratchets And Wrenches. About 7 minutes in he discusses how to set up and use the mount head. He doesn’t describe why like I did but he does tell you where the bead should be and demonstrates with the correct positioning.
Positioning the mount head past the point where the bead comes above the rim may seem counter-intuitive, but that’s exactly where it’s supposed to be.
I have mixed feelings about these tire changers. I much rather pay my local shop the $10 they charge to change my tires. I won’t risk damaging my wheels. 🤷🏼♀️
like to know where you get it done for $10. $30 around here to mount and balance one tire. and have changed 100's of tires with this cheap tire changer and worst damage was a few scratches which I can put up with the old rims I have.
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic Agreed. Cant find anyone around here either for under 25-30 each. That is a $100-$125 savings for each set.
Where are u @ , Mexico 🤣, here where I am $40 bucks per tire + tax+ disposable fee , $50 to exact
Theres a local tire shop I go to sometimes that will dismount and remount car tires for 10 per wheel
Then 15 for truck wheels.
They are always fast and for 60$ they were also right there to give a deal on a tire too when I was in need of a 10 ply once upon a time.
But I still really appreciate having my own tire mounting post here on the homestead cause I'm not always rolling in the dough 😂🎉
You will actually damage your wheels just driving the car around worse than you would using one of these...
I wouldn't let this guy grease my wheelbarrow wheel
hahahahahahaha!!!!!