Folding bicycle 16” vs 20” - Which folding bike is better?
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- Which is better ? 16” wheel folding bike or 20” wheel folding bike?
I compare two sizes of folding bike in this video.
Most people will choose a 16 inch wheel folding bike or a 20 inch wheel folding bike so here are the benefits to each, 16” is better for commuting and storing in small spaces and is very easy to put on a train or bus. 20 inch wheel folding bike is faster, can carry More gear if you are on a folding bike tour. I like to buy second hand folding bikes. After years of folding bike adventuring I have now found the perfect set ups and accessories for me. Best of luck on your folding bike adventure!
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Thanks for watching and comments!
hello mate, well spoken and very informative , i actually have 20inch bike which i use for commuting, its been real fun , just started refurbishing it, as all the gears and pedals wore out, also i,m thinking of buying another one as a backup> thank you very much for the video, its amazingly made.
riding folding bikes can be addictive! at least they don't take up too much space. thanks for watching
@@hobocyclist they are 😄
Great video. I have a Dahon 20" which is great. But I fancy a 16'' for the occasional city commute with a bit shopping thrown in as well. I guess the 16'' is better for it. In fact I'll be buying one very soon. Thanks for your help with this.
if your city is flat its even better cycling for either bike :) thanks for watching
Pro tip. Frames such as Fnhon, Dahon, etc that take 20-inch wheels will also take 22-inch wheels (NB disc brakes only). I tour on a bike I put together with a Fnhon frame and 22-inch wheels (plus full 20 speed drive chain). Very comfy. Did 1000 km through India at Xmas.
cool, is 22" common size? ive never haerd of it
@@hobocyclist becoming more common now. The ERTO number to look out for is 451. Good size for longer distances and touring.
Just curious , which route did you take ? Where did you start from and where did you end your journey ? Did you avail any public transport with your bike and how did you pack the bike along ?
- from Kolkata, India
@@podfunk 451 is a 20 inch wheel size. 22 inch is 457, 470 or 490. Reference, Sheldon Brown.
One more thing: I guess it comes down to the bike itself. I have a Brompton (16") and a Tern Link (20"). The Brompton outperforms the Tern by a long shot although the wheels are smaller. It's just that all the components are much better "in-sync" with each other...
Yea 16inch for train, 20 inch for everything and 24 inch for someone who wants a 'normal' bike but have storage trouble. Love my folding bikes!
What a lovely garden/yard you got there, sitting here in 3° celsius in skandi on my nightshift, would much rater sit under that palm and look at folding bikes 😄👍🏻
Cheers mate! I wish it was my yard too ;)
There's a really strong movement of people riding around the world or doing very extensive touring trips using Brompton bicycles.
Because the Brompton fits in overhead lockers on airlines there's nothing to pay to fly with them, likewise on trains, coaches, buses and boats.
A common theme is their suitability, reliability and practicality, which for the smallest folding bicycle is really quite an achievement!
Small folding bicycles are hugely underrated, as your videos prove.
You're inspiring people to get some inexpensive kit together and to get travelling.
Totally agree! thanks for watching
But a Brompton is not what I would call inexpensive. My Montana is inexpensive (particularly with a 30% reduction!), which is as well, because I would never have bought it otherwise. But I'm biased, I have ridden a Brompton and been most unimpressed!
Andy, you put together a great video, TH-cam gold at its roots. Don't get slick the content is what's important. At 6'2"I'm looking for the biggest folder I can travel with. I love that you started this with basic bikes.
Thanks appreciate the comment great feedback! Youll find something for taller riders in a Tern, Giant, or other quality folding bike that the seat and handlebar height can be raised higher, the Japan surplus bikes are usually designed for smaller riders. All the best!
@@hobocyclist good point, I was thinking it would be easy to get a bike on arrival, but most really are built for smaller riders. Thanks
@@hobocyclist Zizzo says they are made for people up to 6-3. But what I really wanted to see was both of them folded side by side. Did I skip that part? Purpose is for grocery shopping. Thanks
Thanks for the video Andy ! great stuff.
Cheers! Lots more over at my channel 😎🚲🚲⛺️🌴👍
I think Ill go for a 16in folding Bike as I want to follow my partner while their running and also a bike that will fold down
very small and leave in my Car Boot. Thanks for the review.
It will be perfect for that. Enjoy your riding!
Dude - I love your videos. The unpretentioness (if that's a word) is refreshing. But I have to ask: how tall are you? How much pedalling leverage can you get with the seatposts down that low?
Hi -forgive the late reply here,! I am 185cm yes the seat is a bit low for me on the red bike, I am thinking of upgrading the bike fpr the next european tour.. it could be a few years away now. Not great bikes for climbing hills, but i did ride some of Japan on one anyway
Excellent video amigo! I am interested in the 16 bike and it's hard to find good videos comparing the 16 and 20. Happy I found your video.
Cheers mate! All the best for your adventures!! 🚲⛺️🌴👍
Thanks man! Great advice!
I've lived in two American cities and each of them requires a bicycle to have at 20'' wheels if the user wants to load it on the front of a metrobus. So you might want to remember that if you are planning on a multimodal commute!
ive never put my bike on the front of a bus, although when ive seen these bike racks on buses they seem to work best with big wheel bikes
@@hobocyclist I had a really sweet wine red Brompton but one day it got stuck in a bus bike rack and that's when I learned that the wheels need to be at least 20''. No little Brompton 16'' wheels for the bus. In Miami, I could, however, fold the bike and take it inside. In Cincinnati you cannot take folding bikes in the bus.
Good product and appears well made. Easy to use.
Yes! This thing is good!
Thank you for doing this very useful
Great presentation, and I like your videos on the folding bike 🚲 thanks lad.
I bought a 16 inches folding bike. Then yesterday I bought 20 inches hito. Both different folding bike are same shimano 7 speed bicycle. BUT for my 16 inches, I can ride so easily and hit 33km per hour speed. But on this hito, the top speed is 27km per hour and my both knee cap are so sore after a few mins ride. Both are same 7 speed, but maybe the crank set and cog on a 20 inches bicycle make it very difficult to ride once above gear 3. For my 16 inches folding bike even at gear 7, it still feel very affordless.
the sound is too low, your videos are always hard to watch in some way but I still watch
Cheers mate! I’m not a pro presenter just trying to share something, also I have a mic now 🚲👍
I like smaller wheels. The more tiny, the more cute they are.
But unfortunately, if I want a bike for commuting, it's better to have bigger wheels. So I don't spend too much energy kicking the pedals for longer distances.
Hi compare to Brompton what's the wheelbase in 20" folding bicycle
Good advice! I definitely need a 16 inch.
Go big or go home
@@ashab1 I need something smaller like the 16" so I can get on/off the bus easier.
Don’t we all!
@hobocyclist Can you get extra thick 16 inch tires?
Is 20 km riding comfortably possible on 16 inch?
Thanks for the video bro
I am looking to buy a folding bike and you video was good. What about Brompton? Very expensive but well done in my opinion.
Tell me how it goes, I can’t afford one!
Be interesting, I'm looking at 20" (451) at cheaper price and lighter than Brompton lightest
Thanks man, I'm trying to pick a folding bike one of these days, and can't decide if I'll go with 20" or 16". I think I'll pick up 20" cause I want to stroll long ways. Thanks
Great choice, all the best with your adventures!
exellent video, thank you!
You’re welcome!
@@hobocyclist you convinced me today to buy a 20" B’twin Tilt 100 folding bike.
thank you
You're welcome!
Hello and thanks for your video. Looks like the16 incher fit in the trunk of a late model Miata, maybe have to remove the seatpost to go into the trunk. Would the 20 incher fit? I have a Zizzo Liberte (20") and I am considering purchasing a late model (ND) Mazda MX-5 Miata. Anyone?
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Informative video,could you please let me know if the 20 inch folding bike would be any good for a 15 stone 6ft3 rider? If not could you please recommend a folder for someone my size.
Try to find a folding bike with 600mm seatpost. At least the seatpost with that length *and* diameter you can easily find in online. Note: my folding bike has seat tube diameter 30.4mm and I can't find 600mm seatpost in online shops. Sad.
Wouldn't those telescopic seat post work? I recall seeing one where you adjust the post and after that there's room for further extension telescopic extension. Smaller wheels means the shorter spokes are stronger for heavier folks. Even so go for a sturdier type with medium with tires and these are going to be heavier to carry. Like his tour bike with 20 inch wheels but even sturdier.
@@h4rsono I have the same problem on my Montana Nodo which is a 20" italian folder a bit like a Tern (but with standard mtb width hubs). I have a 30.4mm seat post and the inside diameter is exactly 25.4mm. So I took a standard 1" (25.4mm) seat post (with a proper rail clamp, not a collar), fitted it in, two screws tapped into the inside post and job's done. The major disadvantage is that when I fold I have to take the post out because it won't go far enough down before touching the ground. I also have a hoseclip on mine at the right seatpost extension so that it won't slip down in the frame. This also means that everytime I put the post back in it automatically stops at the right height!
Thanks Andy. I'm still trying to figure out if it's 16 or 20 inch for me.
Just take a test ride. I have rode a Brompton, and I realize that it's too much unstable due to the small wheel size.
I like the extra stability of 20inch.
simple take both, there are people having several cars in garage so 2 bikes is piece of cake
I love my Dahon Mariner D8.
Good bike 👍
Is it hard to replace the stem on the thredded forks if yours have them
i dont know about this but best of luck with it!
Hi can i ask a question? Single speed good?
on flat ground, yes!
Madness not to show both bikes folded on the table together to illustrate the size difference
Yes there certainly is a size difference, it would also be nice to see the person riding them, and maybe in different costumes but my productions are low budget
@@hobocyclist significant size difference when folded?
@@paulhorn1064 Size difference in folded bundle likely 4" less in diameter for 16" bike due to wheel size, also frame is slightly smaller in legth but not width.. I no longer have these bikes to compare, now riding tern d8..The main difference is in weight but only a few kilos less for the 16" wheel bike. Parts such as seat, seat post pedals, handlebars etc are the same size on both models. If i was choosing between bikes for riding short distances around a city and on/off trains buses i would go for the 16" however for longer trips the 20" is better, and will still be able to pack down to fit IATA requirements for airline baggage when properly packaged
Would this work for a teen like me a 13 year old and probably 4’4
Yeah it's a good option
❤Thank u
sir question? i am newbie , i have 16" folding bike , it is possible with crank 58t for single speed?
i dont know, best of luck with your project!
Nice video... Just wanted to know if these are good for some basic hill climbs too?... Planning to get the Btwin Tilt 120 which has just 6 speed.
Thanks
that sounds like a great bike! it depends on how steep the hills are and how often you will cycle hills because folding bikes are not the best for very steep terrain. i have cycled in Japan and some mountainous parts of Germany in my folding bike and it was ok to do this, but maybe not everyday!
@@hobocyclist thanks brother... That was helpful
Dear Ramesh, did you buy Btwin Tilt120 ? What is your opinion about it ?
Can a 20 inch electric go on a plane?
Choosing only one, which is best?
lithium ion battery must be carried in hand luggage, not stowed. consult your airline terms of carriage for specific information. I dont use ebikes. Good luck!
What's your height
Hi im new to folding bikes and same in your channel because im into motocross but my job as a sailor i become interested with foldable bc i can carry it from airplanes, ships , travel around the world and this is my big question which would be better 16" wheel or 20" wheel base ??? I hope you can answer my question type of bikes that i used before since i was a kid is BMX, fixies,downhill they have all have bigger wheel and i dont have any idea about 16 and 20 thanks
i like to use the 20" wheel folding bike for longer trips, eg: touring or rides over 10km. i use 16" wheel folding bike for around a city, short trips or if i use trains or bus as part of my journey. so yes it depends how tall you are, (make sure you use a bike comfortable for you), is storage space important eg if you live in a van or boat, or transporting the bike is important.. any of these factors can determine what bike will be right for you. best of luck finding a bike!
Im 6'2 was gonna get a 16inch one, but i think it d look way too small. so i went for the 20 i
how do you like it? Id happily ride a 16" around a flat city but any hills would be a challenge!
@@hobocyclist barely gonna get it.. It just shipped out. From d2s. Instead I bought the d4s. Just came out
(fiido e-bike)
Hello im 5"8 is 16inch small for me?
You'll be alright with a 16" bike. Just upgrade only the seat post, it might be short.
Folding bikes 😍
Yup they are 👍
can you get a folding bike with higher geering than a 6 or seven speed ?
best ive tried is a 7 speed, im not a tech/gear guy but sure you could try build one with more gears? main thing that seems to limit the folding bike gears is that most only a rear deraileur or hub for gearing. most mtb or road bikes have a set of 3 gears on the crank and 7 on the back wheel (21 spd etc).
If I take off the seat pole of a foldable bike, can I use it as a pedal scooter?
Sounds like a good video!
Thanks bro Mashallah
What’s your opinion to build a 20 inch brompton!!
Go for it! i havent yet rode a Brompton, if anyone would lend me one i'll review it!!
@@hobocyclist thanks buddy
What makes & models are the bikes please?
im not sure on the 16" but the 20" is "Beem" i got it in Tokyo
What models are they? Brompton, citizen?
These are second hand folding bikes, some good options for similar models Decathlon Btwin: bit.ly/3hYq3sV
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hi how much is it 16inch bike ? where can i get this ?
Second hand , look at Craigslist
is the 20inch good for long rides, like 30-50km in a day?
I have ridden 50km a day on mine, my biggest day was 90km.., but of course a bigger wheel bike will go faster and ride smoother!
is a 16inch good for a beginner
20 inch is also good
How fast does it go?
20kph it’s faster than walking 😂
How tall you are?
185cm
How tall are you bro ?
5’9 I think about that. It’s important to get a bike that seat post goes up high enough if you are tall, most of these bikes made in Asia are for smaller humans, and I think most folding bikes are designed for short rides/ shorter people.
@@hobocyclist so iam 6.2 can i use 20 inch folding bike or it will be bad for my knees ?
@@martyrainy9934 im not a bike expert or tech guy, but id say if you can get a full size bike (non folder) unless of course you need to fold it all the time. if you are not need ing to transport/store the bike in small spaces then a full size bike will be faster and more comfortable. folding bikes are good for short trips and the daily commute, and even though you are 6'2 it should be fine with a 20" on short trips every now and then. just make sure the seat goes up high enough so that you are in a comfortable riding position!
@@hobocyclist thank you bro i will try the 20 folding coz iam always on the move thanks for the info ♥️
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How about a video of 20 vs 24?
yup soon as i get my hands on one!
I rode a 16inch, I'm 65kilo. Liked smaller wheels and fat tires. Pretty sturdy.
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I like those Tern bikes
@@hobocyclist Mine would be no good for touring, but I'd like to take it on trips. Thanks for the videos.
why don't they just do a 18"?
i don't know why?
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Im 32 and still ride a 20 inch BMX
good fast transport
Is that 16 inch wheel bike folded properly? It looked like a mess..
Yup it did huh. I’ll make a “how to fold a bike” video! ;)
looks like tony stark.
cool
... I would like to have your "luxury problems" ...
Get yourself some fine brass wool and oil, and clean up that seat stem of rust. Really embarrasing to see you laboring the seat up or down.
its real life
Have you been smoking weed?
have you?
@@hobocyclist best not to admit it on film. I do understand, 👍
I need abike I can put in my car trunk to get home if SHTF.
Good idea 👍 I’d recommend 20” wheel bike like this amzn.to/3OpihV6 for shtf capability- carrying camping gear etc. see some of my other vids for more 🚲🌲💪
Hi! Great info on the folding bikes! I came across a great deal on a 16in, trying to restore it a bit. I’m trying to find new wheels and tires for it, do you think 18in will be too big for a Tokyo FB?
Sounds perfect!