A very important teaching on the magnanimous grace and mercy of our unspeakingly wonderful Lord. Thank you Brother David, hopefully all who see this and are not saved will believe the Gospel and live forever with Him.
This video succinctly outlines God's timeline from beginning to end while providing a clear a description of the conditions preceding the last days of this dispensation. It motivates me to present the gospel clearly and faithfully to others while there is time.
Oh brother ,how we desperately wish he had . Were tired, were weary and worn out. Regardless the rapture is imminent, as it has always been. I for one am ready, and have been for years. Ever waiting for that 🎺 sound, amen 🙏
Oh the mercies of our great God! Such long suffering and patience on a creation who spurns his goodness and loving kindness! Oh that all might hear, see, and be saved!!!
You are amazing!!! your the first teacher who makes any sense I’m in tears 😭 I knew something was missing..? this is a big revelation for me I sent it to Robert Breaker another dear brother, people need to learn the truth!! GOD BLESS U DEAR BROTHER 🙏🏽🎚❤️
❤ What a great question for today's times 🤗 Thank You Pastor David for the edification this Glorious friday morning ❤ Grace, Peace, Big Tight HugS and much love ❣
Thank you for these clear words, brother David Reid. A unique time in which we live since the revelation of the dispensation of the grace of God through the Apostle Paul to all mankind was given to us in which the Lord Jesus Christ saves souls through his completed work on the cross alone. This should make us grateful every second and eager to share the gospel of the grace of God (Romans - Philemon KJB) with others
Brother David you truly are being used by The Holy Spirit at just the perfect time for the Body of Christ, grace and peace to you David,but you already have that in spades anyway 🕊
i think we living last days of grace because when I preach the gospel, people not only reject it, they becomme your enemy. Even some family member, they dont talk to me just because I told them about Jesus.
Another excellent lesson. I especially liked the discussion about the olive tree. People are all over the map about who the wild olive tree branches are and you cleared it up very simply and scripturally. Thx
Powerful! Thank you. What about 70AD? Jesus saying that "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down" is not a fulfillment of prophesy during this dispensation?
@@ColumbusBibleChurch 10/4. Still trying to work through this as the stones that you mention of the wailing Wall are just the platform for the Temple mount. . Jesus was specifically talking about the buildings, the temple. It when you walk around there today there is not a stone or any other component that is part of the temple. I get you logic but I am not convinced yet.
If you study the term "falling away" it cleary means the "rapture" paul mentions a couple times " fell upon" meaning to arrive somewhere. Its also mentioned in exodus but i cant find the verse. Good teaching
Great teaching . Watching the news the state of our world it’s easy to think we are in the last days of grace. But not so fast the last days may be 100 of years away it could be much worse. It ends when the fullness of the gentiles comes it and that no one knows but God.
Amen Brother David. Thank you again for another confirmation of the word with Ephesians 3. Several times now I have seen you come on {{the same day}} with scripture that I posted on Facebook over the years. I cannot help but look at 1Kings 1:14 & Mark 16:20 when this happens, and it’s not only you but it’s has happened with a few others that I have in the realm. Is it the miracle of the loaves that Jesus spoke of?
Thank you for your clear teaching on this question. I have a question for clarification. You read 2 Timothy 2:13 regarding the security of believers. What about verse 12, which says, “If we deny him, he will also deny us”? That seems to contradict vs 13. Thank you!
@anniemccoy3009 2Tim 2:12 is about rewards. Notice that it refers to the right to reign with Christ. The denial in that verse is a denial of the right to reign not a denial of salvation as 2Tim 2:13 makes clear. Hope this helps. Grace.
Maybe there are no overt signs, hints, or prophecies that the age of grace is about to end. However you cannot deny that the clock is ticking on 6000 years. We all long for the day of rest.
Is it possible that when we see stores putting out Halloween decorations that we know Christmas is near? If we see Euphrates River drying can that mean the 2nd coming is near? It’s like it’s always been said, “ we are closer today than we were yesterday. I see this AI stuff is prep for the mark etc… I think seeing things that were prophesied about 2nd coming happening means that rapture is near because that happens first .
I agree this is clearly an OT prophecy that occurred during this dispensation of Grace. I agree that certain Tribulation prophecies cannot happen before the Rapture. Scripture is clear on that. However, Paul did state we would know the time and the season of the Rapture. I firmly believe we are in that window. Israel becoming a nation in 1948 is another OT prophecy in our time. Jews moving back to Israel in record numbers is another. The formation of the Sanhedrin, the priesthood, wanting to build the 3rd temple, these are all things we see now in this dispensation that point to Tribulation events.
Hi David. 😁 I have a question...how does one answer believers who attend denominational churches, who say.. oh but God showed Grace in the Old Testament as well so what's the big deal about "the dispensation of Grace?" I'm a bit stumped about giving the correct answer to that,
Sure, God showed grace in the OT, but in the OT, Gentiles were without hope (Eph 2:11-12). Today, Gentiles have been grafted in and have direct access to God. In time past, saints had to endure unto the end (Matt 24:13). Today, we have salvation as an instantaneous, eternal gift (Eph 1:13-14). There are other differences, but hopefully this gives you a starting point.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch THANK YOU DAVID! 🤗 you know, I was saying that to myself in fact, but I wasn't confident about my thoughts at all! Thank you for clarification. I've learnt so much from you 🙏 I really appreciate your Ministry 😁 really edifying 😊😊😊
You might want to turn the question around to something they are more familiar with, such as "Paul in the front side of your Bible speaks about laws and expectations of behavior among the Body of Christ, so what's the big deal about the dispensation of Law given to Moses at Mount Sinai?
Brother Reid. Goodevening from Holland. How do i explain someone who accuses us of "hyper" dispensationalism as a false teaching because we preach that in time past israel had to do works? Grace and peace to you and yours. Sister Lusie
People label us as "hyper" because it is much easier to label and dismiss people than disprove their position from the scriptures. Eph 3:1-9 makes it more than clear that Paul had new information. If that information was new, then by definition it could not be the same as what was taught previously. We try to take people to Eph 3 to show the distinctive nature of Paul's ministry.
In John 10:16 when Jesus said "other sheep I have which are not of this fold", who was He referring to? Almost seems like He's hinting to us, His body. Need some help understanding this.
In John 10:16, the Lord is not hinting of the body of Christ. The mystery was a secret with no leakage or hints. What the Lord is referring to is Jews that had been scattered among the nations (John 11:52).
@@ColumbusBibleChurch Ah, thanks. I'm gonna highlight that and make a note. This is who James is writing to in his letter, am I right? (James 1:1) to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
I believe a generation is 70-80 years. If I was born in 1970, and lived till 2040, but by strength made it till 2050, That would be my generation. "The days of our years [are] threescore years and ten; (70) and if by reason of strength [they be] fourscore years, (80) yet [is] their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away". Psalm 90:10. Israel was made a nation in a day in 1948. 70 years is 2018, 80 years is 2028. This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. Mathew 24:34. Jesus was crucified in AD 30, 2000 years later is 2030, we are in 2024. What saith thou??
Israel is in less than 13% of the land that God promised them, which means the prophecy has not been fulfilled. According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses, plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Thus, Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised;
@@mlayton1904 … even the OT at its greatest under King Solomon… Israel never had possession of all the lands God promised to Abraham. So what they possess now is not unlike what they had back then.
David, I'm having trouble with the interpretation of Romans 11. I understand the perspective you have about the Gentiles mentioned in the chapter, but I also find it difficult to follow that Paul is speaking of the dispensation of Grace in this chapter. Why I have mixed assertions about that, is because of the comparisons between the unbelieving Jews that were cut off and the grafted in Gentiles which are said to experience and exist under the same exact risk as were these Jews, for the same exact reasons. Now one might interpret that to be a broad sense of God comparing the two programs in the earth, broadly comparing Israel to the Gentiles; or one might interpret this to be speaking more specifically of the unbelieving majority in Israel (not the little flock remnant), compared to a group of Gentiles that attained that which this unbelieving group did not attain, entrance into the coming earthly kingdom. If the tree which Israel was naturally connected represents the promise of an earthly glorious kingdom, then wouldn't it stand to reason if these unnatural branches (Gentiles) were grafted in "among" them, these Gentiles were to receive the same promises? Wouldn't this imply proselyte Gentiles who became Jews? A group of Gentiles Paul writing to in Rome who'd been exposed to the gospel of the kingdom? Romans 9:30, 10:19 seems to indicate a group of believing Gentiles who by their believing would provoke these unbelieving Jews. Paul's grace gospel dealing with heavenly-place principles would not provoke Jews who expected an earthly eternal kingdom. But if a group of proselyte Jews (former Gentiles) attained what the Jews wanted (but failed through unbelief), wouldn't that be provocation? It would seem a little silly to me for Gentiles saved under Paul's gospel of the Grace of God to boast against a fallen Israel, if these Gentiles weren't attaining what those Jews were promised to attain, but rather something completely different. Yet if they were proselyte Jews under the same risk of being cut off (not eternal security) as were the unbelieving Jews, that would signal to me that these were entering the promised earthly kingdom. In other words, Romans 9-11 has nothing at all to do with the Gospel of the uncircumcision, in my assertion. Please help me out.
Paul preached the gospel of the uncircumcision. There is no reason to think that Rom 11 is not about the gospel of the uncircumcision. Under your theory, Rom 11 is about Gentiles being grafted into the kingdom program. If that is the case, then Rom 11 is no different than the prophetic program and Paul is not talking about mystery information. But Rom 11 says it is mystery information (Rom 11:25).
@@ColumbusBibleChurch I see your point. Yet I don't find the answer satisfactory to the other questions I had, especially the provocation of the unbelieving Jews. Was there a group of Proselyte Gentiles in Rome before Paul was able to step foot into the city and begun preaching the gospel of the uncircumcision? My point wasn't what sort of gospel Paul was delivering, my point was Paul could have been addressing Gentiles who'd converted under Peter. I know there were proselytes in Jerusalem at the time of the Acts 2 experience. Tree metaphors in the scriptures have to do with dominion, prosperity, earthly kingdoms. Gentiles being grafted into the tree Israel was broken from, I just don't see how that is the heavenly places revelation of the mystery.
Let’s consider this. At the start of the gospel of Grace, when Paul was called/taught the gospel to the uncircumcised the kingdom gospel also was preached. For a short time they both coexisted. Therefore, fail to see the full logic of your position statement that just because the dispensation of Grace was not mentioned in the OT. To have any prophecy take place during it would negate it being a mystery. When at a point in time both existed. So events outside of the Tribulation .. .. For instance Ezk 38, is a prophetic event which could happen prior to the start of the tribulation. Or the destruction of Damascus is another. If either of these occurred before the Rapture I fail to see how either would have been an indicator of this dispensation. Further, we see the formation of a one world government, a single world currency, both events are Trib realities forming now in this dispensation. The rebirth of Israel was prophesied in the OT, yet it happened in 1948, this dispensation. While I agree it is clear certain Tribulation prophecies will not happen until after the Rapture, I’m not dogmatic that other non Trib events can’t happen.
Go read Dr. Andy Woods position on the ‘falling away’ … it has nothing to do with what your saying … it’s just another expression for the Rapture. Read the verse in context …
My thoughts: The “day of Christ” isn’t the rapture. The falling away (Israel’s falling away)only happens after the rapture takes place, then the man of sin is revealed, then the DOC becomes a reality when the midtrib casting of satan and his angels out of heaven to the earth happens. Rapture, falling away, ac reveal(abomination which makes desolate,) casting of satan and company to earth. The Body of Christ is then emplaced in heaven and the great tribulation begins. imo Grace & Peace
To your understanding… but that doesn’t make you correct. Both the Kingdom Gospel and the Age of Grace co-existed when it first started and prophetic events happened like 70 AD temple destruction. The Jewish language has been restored just as prophesied.
Ps 90:10 does not use the word "generation". A generation is 40 years. Num 32:13 KJV - And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed. Psa 95:10 KJV - Forty years long was I grieved with [this] generation, and said, It [is] a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:
The vine is national Israel. Ps 80:6. Is 5:1-7 The parable of the fig tree is consistently misunderstood and misapplied. The fig tree represents the religious life of Israel--their own effort/works. Gen 3:7, Matt 24:32-this verse is mistaught as the fig tree being national Israel, making people think the Trib will commence within a “generation” of 1948. Wrong! In Matt 21:19-20 Jesus basically says the religious life of Israel is barren. The Old Covenant withered away never to return-replaced with new. Antichrist attempts to resuscitate the old -Dan 8 Matt 24:32-34 is describing the revival of temple worship (religious life) when covenant is made with Antichrist! What Jesus is teaching in the parable is this: When you (that observing generation) sees religious Israel “putting forth leaves”--being born, coming to active life once more-know that the things he has just described previously in chapter 24. (i.e. the Tribulation) is upon you. The generation that sees the Tribulation temple rebuilt, blood sacrifices and full temple worship reinstated (Religious Israel “putting forth leaves”), will be the Jewish believing generation to live through/called to overcome the seven years of testing/wrath. The fig tree is religious Israel. Surely, the rebirth of national Israel in 1948 was a step on the ladder of stage setting/pre-prophecy readiness, but Matt 24:32-34 is not describing national Israel and is therefore not basis for proof we are living in “that generation” necessarily. I do think and pray it’s soon. Come Lord Jesus!
I noticed you didn't read Ephesians 3:5 at the start of this video. ( Which in other ages was not known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the spirit; Dispensation theory has some many gaps in its belief. I promise anybody that read the holy bible will not come with this theory. You can only believe in this theory of dispensation is been taught by men.
A very important teaching on the magnanimous grace and mercy of our unspeakingly wonderful Lord.
Thank you Brother David, hopefully all who see this and are not saved will believe the Gospel and live forever with Him.
This video succinctly outlines God's timeline from beginning to end while providing a clear a description of the conditions preceding the last days of this dispensation. It motivates me to present the gospel clearly and faithfully to others while there is time.
Amen. Alleluia.
Wow! I am learning some important doctrines from this video! Really appreciate! Thank & praise GOD for this grace to learn.
Oh brother ,how we desperately wish he had .
Were tired, were weary and worn out. Regardless the rapture is imminent, as it has always been. I for one am ready, and have been for years.
Ever waiting for that 🎺 sound, amen 🙏
Dennis are you Dutch?
@@lusievanderlinden2178 Dutch and Italian heritage, but born in South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Oh the mercies of our great God! Such long suffering and patience on a creation who spurns his goodness and loving kindness! Oh that all might hear, see, and be saved!!!
You are amazing!!! your the first teacher who makes any sense I’m in tears 😭 I knew something was missing..? this is a big revelation for me I sent it to Robert Breaker another dear brother, people need to learn the truth!!
GOD BLESS U DEAR BROTHER 🙏🏽🎚❤️
Thanks for the very kind words.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch ur the best brother!! love listening to you ❤️
Yes,their is a lot of people who are doing this ,I almost fell for it ,then something didn't feel right .Sad
Amen, Thank you brother David
What a great video Brother David. You are such a great teacher! Lord bless you!
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Had to rewatch this it’s in my saved videos been a year.
❤ What a great question for today's times 🤗 Thank You Pastor David for the edification this Glorious friday morning ❤ Grace, Peace, Big Tight HugS and much love ❣
Thank you brother David for all your helpful messages.
Thank you for these clear words, brother David Reid. A unique time in which we live since the revelation of the dispensation of the grace of God through the Apostle Paul to all mankind was given to us in which the Lord Jesus Christ saves souls through his completed work on the cross alone. This should make us grateful every second and eager to share the gospel of the grace of God (Romans - Philemon KJB) with others
Wonderful Past David ,,,AWESOME ...
Brother David you truly are being used by The Holy Spirit at just the perfect time for the Body of Christ, grace and peace to you David,but you already have that in spades anyway 🕊
Thanks for the encouragement, Brother Neil!
i think we living last days of grace because when I preach the gospel, people not only reject it, they becomme your enemy. Even some family member, they dont talk to me just because I told them about Jesus.
Another excellent lesson. I especially liked the discussion about the olive tree. People are all over the map about who the wild olive tree branches are and you cleared it up very simply and scripturally. Thx
More clearer this message thank you brother!!
Godbless you more!
Great message! Timely also! Thank you so much for such wonderful teaching!
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for the teaching.
Good one! Thanks!
Powerful! Thank you. What about 70AD? Jesus saying that "There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down" is not a fulfillment of prophesy during this dispensation?
We don't believe that 70AD is the fulfillment of OT prophecy.
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@@ColumbusBibleChurch 10/4. Still trying to work through this as the stones that you mention of the wailing Wall are just the platform for the Temple mount. . Jesus was specifically talking about the buildings, the temple. It when you walk around there today there is not a stone or any other component that is part of the temple. I get you logic but I am not convinced yet.
Rom 14:5 KJV - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
If you study the term "falling away" it cleary means the "rapture" paul mentions a couple times " fell upon" meaning to arrive somewhere. Its also mentioned in exodus but i cant find the verse. Good teaching
Great teaching . Watching the news the state of our world it’s easy to think we are in the last days of grace. But not so fast the last days may be 100 of years away it could be much worse. It ends when the fullness of the gentiles comes it and that no one knows but God.
Well said.
Amen 😍
Amen Brother David. Thank you again for another confirmation of the word with Ephesians 3. Several times now I have seen you come on {{the same day}} with scripture that I posted on Facebook over the years. I cannot help but look at 1Kings 1:14 & Mark 16:20 when this happens, and it’s not only you but it’s has happened with a few others that I have in the realm. Is it the miracle of the loaves that Jesus spoke of?
This is interesting, but we are not sure what to make of it. Sometimes things just happen. It is like the "perhaps" of Philemon.
Have you done a video on the Rapture ? Presenting the verses that speak to that event(as you see it). If not, maybe you will ?
I am sure we have, but I don't know if it is on TH-cam, the church website, etc.
Thank you for your clear teaching on this question. I have a question for clarification. You read 2 Timothy 2:13 regarding the security of believers. What about verse 12, which says, “If we deny him, he will also deny us”? That seems to contradict vs 13. Thank you!
@anniemccoy3009 2Tim 2:12 is about rewards. Notice that it refers to the right to reign with Christ. The denial in that verse is a denial of the right to reign not a denial of salvation as 2Tim 2:13 makes clear. Hope this helps. Grace.
The falling away is "Christians"that fall away from the knowledge of God. They refuse the apostle that Christ has sent to them.
Maybe there are no overt signs, hints, or prophecies that the age of grace is about to end. However you cannot deny that the clock is ticking on 6000 years. We all long for the day of rest.
Is it possible that when we see stores putting out Halloween decorations that we know Christmas is near?
If we see Euphrates River drying can that mean the 2nd coming is near? It’s like it’s always been said, “ we are closer today than we were yesterday. I see this AI stuff is prep for the mark etc… I think seeing things that were prophesied about 2nd coming happening means that rapture is near because that happens first .
Was the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 the prophecy for told by Jesus?
When did John the Apostle vision of the the book of Revelation took place?
I agree this is clearly an OT prophecy that occurred during this dispensation of Grace. I agree that certain Tribulation prophecies cannot happen before the Rapture. Scripture is clear on that. However, Paul did state we would know the time and the season of the Rapture. I firmly believe we are in that window. Israel becoming a nation in 1948 is another OT prophecy in our time. Jews moving back to Israel in record numbers is another. The formation of the Sanhedrin, the priesthood, wanting to build the 3rd temple, these are all things we see now in this dispensation that point to Tribulation events.
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Hi David. 😁 I have a question...how does one answer believers who attend denominational churches, who say.. oh but God showed Grace in the Old Testament as well so what's the big deal about "the dispensation of Grace?"
I'm a bit stumped about giving the correct answer to that,
Sure, God showed grace in the OT, but in the OT, Gentiles were without hope (Eph 2:11-12). Today, Gentiles have been grafted in and have direct access to God. In time past, saints had to endure unto the end (Matt 24:13). Today, we have salvation as an instantaneous, eternal gift (Eph 1:13-14). There are other differences, but hopefully this gives you a starting point.
@@ColumbusBibleChurch THANK YOU DAVID! 🤗 you know, I was saying that to myself in fact, but I wasn't confident about my thoughts at all! Thank you for clarification. I've learnt so much from you 🙏 I really appreciate your Ministry 😁 really edifying 😊😊😊
Our pleasure. Alleluia. Thanks for the kind words.
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You might want to turn the question around to something they are more familiar with, such as "Paul in the front side of your Bible speaks about laws and expectations of behavior among the Body of Christ, so what's the big deal about the dispensation of Law given to Moses at Mount Sinai?
Brother Reid.
Goodevening from Holland.
How do i explain someone who accuses us of "hyper" dispensationalism as a false teaching because we preach that in time past israel had to do works?
Grace and peace to you and yours. Sister Lusie
People label us as "hyper" because it is much easier to label and dismiss people than disprove their position from the scriptures. Eph 3:1-9 makes it more than clear that Paul had new information. If that information was new, then by definition it could not be the same as what was taught previously. We try to take people to Eph 3 to show the distinctive nature of Paul's ministry.
Question. Can’t we see that the rapture will happen soon because we can see clues that the tribulation is coming into focus?
In John 10:16 when Jesus said "other sheep I have which are not of this fold", who was He referring to? Almost seems like He's hinting to us, His body. Need some help understanding this.
In John 10:16, the Lord is not hinting of the body of Christ. The mystery was a secret with no leakage or hints. What the Lord is referring to is Jews that had been scattered among the nations (John 11:52).
@@ColumbusBibleChurch Ah, thanks. I'm gonna highlight that and make a note. This is who James is writing to in his letter, am I right?
(James 1:1) to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Yes, we think so.
I thought it says a generation is 70-80 years??
I believe a generation is 70-80 years. If I was born in 1970, and lived till 2040, but by strength made it till 2050, That would be my generation. "The days of our years [are] threescore years and ten; (70) and if by reason of strength [they be] fourscore years, (80) yet [is] their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away". Psalm 90:10. Israel was made a nation in a day in 1948. 70 years is 2018, 80 years is 2028. This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled. Mathew 24:34. Jesus was crucified in AD 30, 2000 years later is 2030, we are in 2024. What saith thou??
@timoromeo7663 This video may be of interest. Grace.
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No prophecy occurring during the age of grace ? What about Ezk 37 ? with the Jews returning to their land, and have been doing so since the 1940's ?
Israel is in less than 13% of the land that God promised them, which means the prophecy has not been fulfilled. According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses, plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Thus, Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised;
@@mlayton1904 … even the OT at its greatest under King Solomon… Israel never had possession of all the lands God promised to Abraham. So what they possess now is not unlike what they had back then.
David, I'm having trouble with the interpretation of Romans 11. I understand the perspective you have about the Gentiles mentioned in the chapter, but I also find it difficult to follow that Paul is speaking of the dispensation of Grace in this chapter. Why I have mixed assertions about that, is because of the comparisons between the unbelieving Jews that were cut off and the grafted in Gentiles which are said to experience and exist under the same exact risk as were these Jews, for the same exact reasons.
Now one might interpret that to be a broad sense of God comparing the two programs in the earth, broadly comparing Israel to the Gentiles; or one might interpret this to be speaking more specifically of the unbelieving majority in Israel (not the little flock remnant), compared to a group of Gentiles that attained that which this unbelieving group did not attain, entrance into the coming earthly kingdom. If the tree which Israel was naturally connected represents the promise of an earthly glorious kingdom, then wouldn't it stand to reason if these unnatural branches (Gentiles) were grafted in "among" them, these Gentiles were to receive the same promises? Wouldn't this imply proselyte Gentiles who became Jews? A group of Gentiles Paul writing to in Rome who'd been exposed to the gospel of the kingdom?
Romans 9:30, 10:19 seems to indicate a group of believing Gentiles who by their believing would provoke these unbelieving Jews. Paul's grace gospel dealing with heavenly-place principles would not provoke Jews who expected an earthly eternal kingdom. But if a group of proselyte Jews (former Gentiles) attained what the Jews wanted (but failed through unbelief), wouldn't that be provocation?
It would seem a little silly to me for Gentiles saved under Paul's gospel of the Grace of God to boast against a fallen Israel, if these Gentiles weren't attaining what those Jews were promised to attain, but rather something completely different. Yet if they were proselyte Jews under the same risk of being cut off (not eternal security) as were the unbelieving Jews, that would signal to me that these were entering the promised earthly kingdom.
In other words, Romans 9-11 has nothing at all to do with the Gospel of the uncircumcision, in my assertion.
Please help me out.
Paul preached the gospel of the uncircumcision. There is no reason to think that Rom 11 is not about the gospel of the uncircumcision.
Under your theory, Rom 11 is about Gentiles being grafted into the kingdom program. If that is the case, then Rom 11 is no different than the prophetic program and Paul is not talking about mystery information. But Rom 11 says it is mystery information (Rom 11:25).
@@ColumbusBibleChurch I see your point. Yet I don't find the answer satisfactory to the other questions I had, especially the provocation of the unbelieving Jews. Was there a group of Proselyte Gentiles in Rome before Paul was able to step foot into the city and begun preaching the gospel of the uncircumcision? My point wasn't what sort of gospel Paul was delivering, my point was Paul could have been addressing Gentiles who'd converted under Peter.
I know there were proselytes in Jerusalem at the time of the Acts 2 experience.
Tree metaphors in the scriptures have to do with dominion, prosperity, earthly kingdoms. Gentiles being grafted into the tree Israel was broken from, I just don't see how that is the heavenly places revelation of the mystery.
Let’s consider this. At the start of the gospel of Grace, when Paul was called/taught the gospel to the uncircumcised the kingdom gospel also was preached. For a short time they both coexisted. Therefore, fail to see the full logic of your position statement that just because the dispensation of Grace was not mentioned in the OT. To have any prophecy take place during it would negate it being a mystery. When at a point in time both existed. So events outside of the Tribulation .. .. For instance Ezk 38, is a prophetic event which could happen prior to the start of the tribulation. Or the destruction of Damascus is another. If either of these occurred before the Rapture I fail to see how either would have been an indicator of this dispensation. Further, we see the formation of a one world government, a single world currency, both events are Trib realities forming now in this dispensation. The rebirth of Israel was prophesied in the OT, yet it happened in 1948, this dispensation. While I agree it is clear certain Tribulation prophecies will not happen until after the Rapture, I’m not dogmatic that other non Trib events can’t happen.
Go read Dr. Andy Woods position on the ‘falling away’ … it has nothing to do with what your saying … it’s just another expression for the Rapture. Read the verse in context …
My thoughts: The “day of Christ” isn’t the rapture. The falling away (Israel’s falling away)only happens after the rapture takes place, then the man of sin is revealed, then the DOC becomes a reality when the midtrib casting of satan and his angels out of heaven to the earth happens. Rapture, falling away, ac reveal(abomination which makes desolate,) casting of satan and company to earth. The Body of Christ is then emplaced in heaven and the great tribulation begins. imo Grace & Peace
To your understanding… but that doesn’t make you correct. Both the Kingdom Gospel and the Age of Grace co-existed when it first started and prophetic events happened like 70 AD temple destruction. The Jewish language has been restored just as prophesied.
Psalm 90:10 states a generation is 70 to 80 years just fyi. All we need to know can be found in the Word of God.
Ps 90:10 does not use the word "generation".
A generation is 40 years.
Num 32:13 KJV - And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.
Psa 95:10 KJV - Forty years long was I grieved with [this] generation, and said, It [is] a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:
40, 100, and sometimes 70 years.
The vine is national Israel. Ps 80:6. Is 5:1-7
The parable of the fig tree is consistently misunderstood and misapplied. The fig tree represents the religious life of Israel--their own effort/works. Gen 3:7, Matt 24:32-this verse is mistaught as the fig tree being national Israel, making people think the Trib will commence within a “generation” of 1948. Wrong! In Matt 21:19-20 Jesus basically says the religious life of Israel is barren. The Old Covenant withered away never to return-replaced with new. Antichrist attempts to resuscitate the old -Dan 8
Matt 24:32-34 is describing the revival of temple worship (religious life) when covenant is made with Antichrist!
What Jesus is teaching in the parable is this: When you (that observing generation) sees religious Israel “putting forth leaves”--being born, coming to active life once more-know that the things he has just described previously in chapter 24. (i.e. the Tribulation) is upon you. The generation that sees the Tribulation temple rebuilt, blood sacrifices and full temple worship reinstated (Religious Israel “putting forth leaves”), will be the Jewish believing generation to live through/called to overcome the seven years of testing/wrath. The fig tree is religious Israel. Surely, the rebirth of national Israel in 1948 was a step on the ladder of stage setting/pre-prophecy readiness, but Matt 24:32-34 is not describing national Israel and is therefore not basis for proof we are living in “that generation” necessarily. I do think and pray it’s soon. Come Lord Jesus!
I noticed you didn't read Ephesians 3:5 at the start of this video. ( Which in other ages was not known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the spirit; Dispensation theory has some many gaps in its belief. I promise anybody that read the holy bible will not come with this theory. You can only believe in this theory of dispensation is been taught by men.
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Well I just clicked in....I can't listen sir if you want to drink with your microphone at your shirt...I just cant do it. Sorry
So what do you do when you’re sitting at the dinner table & people drink ? You must have lots of friends huh? 😂😂