Even mind more mind boggling is that estimated life span of lowest mass red dwarfs can be as much as 14000 billion years! 1000 times longer than current age of the universe!
An alternative to 'star burning' is to consider the universe from an electrical perspective. The universe is full of moving charged particles and thus full of moving electric fields. The larger gas bodies in the universe (like Saturn, Jupiter and the Sun) have argon, neon and similar gases in their atmospheres which are fluoresced by these external electric currents, just like a fluorescent tube. Thus all these 'stars' are nothing but large giant gas balls which shine in visible wavelengths because of the fluorescence of their surface atmospheres by external currents. The larger the ball, the more current they intercept the brighter they shine. They do not 'generate' the light from inside to any degree at all.
To be fair, so far as we know, everywhere except Earth is just a terrifying place to be. But some are more terrifying than others, and galactic centers are right up there for sure.
Good video. You were addressing my concerns with this around the 9-minute mark. A star around 12 billion years old that we can see from here would need to be mass-wise a smaller G type star or a larger K type star and be past its main sequence phase and in its giant phase, so that it has expanded enough for us to notice it. It would probably max out in the 150-200 million km diameter range, and be burning red, and be 30,000 light years away. By comparison, Betelgeuse is probably around 10 times that size, and what, maybe 600 (estimates vary) light years away? Odds are you wouldn't be able to find our sun with the naked eye from 50 light years away. We really only know with certainty of the G, K and M type stars that are close to us.
Wonderful. I've spent a year pouring over the Gaia DR3 data, extracting solar vicinity stars for my own 3D software. Always great to learn more on this topic.
Wonderful Person Anton, are you working on an episode covering the Theory that the Universe is 26.7 Billion Years Old, instead of 13.8 Billion? I heard about it a day or so ago. Might wanna check into it. Could explain a few things about the size of Ancient Severely Red-Shifted Galaxies. Among other things, if proven to be Correct. Love your channel, been subbed for long time. And understand what You and Your Family have experienced in the recent past. But, you are Truly a Wonderful Person. Continuing/Persevering thru whatever Life throws at You. Kudos my Friend. Not to mention Your varied, multi subject matter, explained and broken down for Anyone!!!! Thank you so much for being the Wonderful Person You are.
They should measure the change in the difference of light bending through gravitational forces and see if there is more gravity towards the center or something. Like for study of dark matter or similar things.
@@xenaluck I know they have, i just started a complex suggestion but abandoned it because i left my computer, came back and then didnt feel like finishing so i just left the beginning. Thanks for trying to reply while not understanding.
How can we tell for sure that a really old star hasn't been contaminated by absorbing bits of dust and gas from its environment over the 12+ billion years of its life? Especially if so many hang around in a part of the galaxy densely packed with high-metalicity dust?
Typically, stellar winds prevent the influx of contaminating gas and dust. Larger cometary sized objects might be absorbed from time to time, but any contamination from those would be inconsequential relative to the total mass of a star.
Very interesting, as always. Thank you. A question: How 'solid' is the relationship between Calcium and Iron? Is it an immutable relationship based on fundamental physics, an understood correlation, or simply an observation that seems to hold so far? The answer will say a lot about the reliability of such studies. PS: FWVLIW - I suspect a lot of globular clusters are the remnants of huge population 3 stars given the way they likely end. Studies?
Thanks Anton for this awesome content. -------- [ Question ] Where are the "different black-holes" from those "older/multiple collisions" that formed the Milky Way. Is our Solar System safe from the risk of any wandering black-holes from those historica collisions.
I’m confused. How would the age of a young star made with a lot of supernovas be differentiated from slightly older stars made with a couple fewer supernova?
Like Antons vids but this one had contradictions through out. Young stars start out mostly made of hydrogen and helium. But then ancient stars are also metal poor, ie i assume mostly hydrogen and helium? I miss the idea in the theory.. Did Anton get it back to front..
Since Pop 3 stars emit a spectrum different from Pop 1 stars, have wonder if the metallicity of a star has anything to do with the creation, sustain and complexity of life on an applicable planet?
The most likely place I think we could find population 3 stars would be in some of the most distant galaxies in the universe. The farther out we look, the farther back in time we are looking. But to do that we will need a telescope far better than James Webb
@@KnightspaceORG It's a proposal from some folks at the University of Ottawa. It rests on the previously debunked 'tired light' theory embraced by big bang denialists.
@@stargazer5784 none of the theories about the universe are solid, just theories because we don't have the capability and knowledge to prove them one way or another.
It would have been very weird if any star be older than the universe. I mean scientists should have known that if they said Methasulah, or any star, older than the universe would be impossible. But if it was older, the Big Bang either be older or that something is very fishy.
3:26 Between 1/4-2/5 and above 6 you will find 3 stars of crenation 😮😂 it looks like a boomerang ❤ 9:25 because matter need volume to exist 😂and visa versa 😮
Let me guess, these oldest-stars are also the galactic collision remnants who's occupants also happen to have more evolved sentients, war in heavens, yada yada
Black holes were here. The less dense portions of matter in space-time are what we're allowed to congealed to fuse hydrogen, thus creating population three stars. The original "primordial" black holes were most likely formed straightaway in the areas of denser matter.
If ,after many generations of regenerating stars would there be enough of another element other than hydrogen to create a different type of star like a Borat inspired potassium stellar body?
We already know about stellar remnants that look like they're mostly carbon. It's hard to call them stars though, fusion has ceased. So kind of / maybe?
If those stars are closer to the center of the Milky Way, shouldn't they be moving faster because they are closer to the gravitational center of the galaxy? 🤔
Could you comment or make a video about the latest Ottawa University study claiming the Universe is at least almost twice as old (27.7 billion years) as we theorised it to be? I've been having some trouble interpreting their results and I think most of us would like to hear about this. Great video though! I love your material it helps me so much with my studies!
In the paper, the foundation of Gupta's argument is that in addition to redshift light also gets "tired" -- meaning it loses energy and slows down over time, causing its frequency to shift even further and making galaxies even more distant than we think they are. But -- and this is a really BIG "but" -- outside of redshift, there's been no observed evidence of such a loss in energy. And, unless everything since Newton is wrong, there's no method for such a loss either. So until he has some proof of this effect, this isn't accepted science -- it's just another paper that all the cheapo clickbait websites are pushing really hard for ad revenue.
the whole theory about stars is probably totaly wrong , so with this dating of stars..... ever considered the universe might have no beginning or end and is timeless ? I read somewhere it was mathematically proven...traveling with limitless speed one direction makes you appear from the opposite direction ? i dont make it up , it was from dr R Steiner a physicist and antroposophy teacher / writer...
why wouldn't these ancient stars pick up metallic elements from all the nearby super-nova events? Is it that the central milkyway has been very stable over a very long period, despite the density?
I'm not an astronomer. My best guess would be that the solar wind from even an ancient, small star would be strong enough to prevent much in the way of in-fall.
Understanding how a system works, why is it still so hard to see that the galaxy is an analog to the atom? The entire structure is a system. Nothing in a system is separate from the system. Our galaxy and our sun and our planet are exactly as they are meant to be: one, in a system.
The force that holds the components of an atom together is not the same force that holds the components of a solar system, or a galaxy together. It is analogous in superficial appearence only, not in the way the system works.
@@WaterShowsProd They are all vibrations; we choose to define them as this such and that such. From quantum dances to galatic filaments there is structure. The scale of the structure requires a different vibration to balance it, much like the Higgs stabilizes matter. A board, a firmament, to play the orchestra of the universe. You call it a 'superficial analogy' but they are all just vibrations on magnitudinal-scale different planes.
@@TheRotnflesh No, I call them The Electromagnetic, The Strong, The Weak, and The Gravitational Forces, and the ways they in which they fuction are not the same. If you were to speparate a component of an atom from that atom it would result in a release of energy, hence radioactivity and nuclear explosions; if you were to remove a component from a solar system it would requre engergy, and there would not be an explosion resulting from that object leaving the system. Same is true for a galaxy. They are not being held together in the same way.
@@WaterShowsProd Time to an atom is not the same as for a star, or a galaxy. You are using labels to define vibrations; they are all vibrations from the quantum scale to the cosmic scale. Physics is a science of defining values in a system but our system extends beyond the visible universe and we now know gravity waves are part of the orchestra. The universe is a never ending fractal. Everything swirls, everything dances. The only thing we really detect are values because our machines are tuned to values; we have no way of listening to the entire orchestra and so treat the various frequencies like they are separate components without relation. We even feel the thrumming in our lives when something comes along and plucks our life strings. Albert Einstein -Everything in life is vibration.
@@terrycox1639 Just as the cells in your body collaborate with each other the stars collaborate with eachother in a cosmic dance just as atomic components collaborate; Our science just hasn't gotten there yet. Take a chunk of the Milky Way, stars and all, and remove it. What will happen? A complete destabilization, like an unbalanced wheel spinning, will result; the galaxy will be altered completely. Supposedly the forces affecting the removed stars do not affect the entire galaxy but their collective forces do, because they are part of that galaxy. That concept scales down: remove enough mass and the solar system loses stability. Remove enough cells and your body health suffers. Remove enough components and the atom falls apart or decays into a lesser element. The only difference between these things is the value we assigned. They are all still vibrations in a symphony made delicately balanced by the frequencies it is playing.
0:47 HD 130283 Methuselah Star! Amazing. in the Oldest part of the biblical Testament, the time was probably counted in "Moons", not Years; (that calendar came later). So Methuselah was 969 moons old, which was 78.3 years. For me it gets a bit confusing~+mysterious with Henoch(Enoch), who didn't "die", but had a lifespan nevertheless: 365_"units(whatsoever)", which is pretty close to Earth's year; and if this number is divided by 12.36826... the number of 29.5... appears, which is the time of one synodic Moon orbit. Did the Henoch part in the Bible teach us some Basic Astronomy?
Okay in the center of the Milky Way universe is always daylight. How hot is it in the center there where these old stars are? Is it possible Heaven is in the middle the Milky Way?
7:22 "The Sun for example was most likely created from at least 40 supernova." Would that be in sequence as in most of the matter from the sun went through 40 stellar life cycles before 4.5 billion years ago? That sounds like a lot considering how long the sun is living now and should continue living for billions of years to come. That would be an average of a different star being born and dying every couple hundred million years instead of lasting even 1 billion years.
@@BleachDemon707 it's a legitimate question and I'm looking for educational answers. I get the impression you're more eager to gratify your need for excitement by annoying people than share any helpful knowledge. Hopefully one day you'll mature enough to find more mutually beneficial forms of entertainment but, until then, just refrain from bothering me please.
@@IARRCSimThe proposal that some 40 odd generations of supernovae contributed to the metal content of our star is based on a rather simple, although not altogether obvious premise. In our galaxy and many others, very large and dense gas and molecular complexes can be seen where star formation is very activity occurring on an ongoing basis. These complexes spawn giant stars, and small ones. The really big ones live fast and die hard within just a relatively few milion years as type 2 supernovae. Coming from giant pop 1 stars, these explosions scatter the heavy elements found in the progenitors all over, enriching the clouds that subsequent generations form from. The larger the star, the shorter it's life span. Really big stars explode after only a few million years on the main sequence, so in relation to cosmic timescales, 40 generations doesn't really mean too much. The more supernovae that have occurred, the higher the metal content of the gas and dust clouds in the area. Anyway, it's all just an approximation based on some fairly solid modeling. The actual number may be closer to 30 or 50 generations.
@@stargazer5784 thanks. Did stars tend to get more massive when the universe was younger and smaller? Is the universe's expansion or the extra metals leading to smaller, longer living stars in our time than in the first few billion years after time began? I get that bigger stars live faster but I want to know why our solar system's matter was mostly expected to have been part of so many generations of massive, short-lived stars as apposed to generations as long and at the stellar size of our solar system. Is our solar system unusually metal-rich to indicate so many past generations or is 30-50 generations very average?
@@IARRCSim I'm not sure if anyone has tried to calculate an average level of metallicity for the whole galaxy or not. There's quite alot of variation in the sizes and densities found in these star forming regions. The Orion complex is over 2000 lightyears wide and there are some that are even larger. Who knows how many generations of supernovae may have occurred there? Hundreds? The Pleiades, which actually has around 1000 known member stars and not just the familiar 7 sisters, occupies a rather small volume of space compared to Orion, but it's stars were also born in the depths of a cloud that's been eventually blown away by the stellar winds of the most massive members. There are probably fewer generations of supernovae within these smaller star forming regions than within the larger ones, leading to a lower metallicity content being found. Measuring the metallicity of member stars is one method that can be used to determine the overall size and mass of the original star forming nebula, if I remember correctly. I'm retired now and it's been decades since I studied this stuff, so it would be best to do some research and reading on this yourself, since much new information is probably now available. Cheers! 😎
'Calcium' - well at least we know our galaxy will have healthy bones. Afterall Milk is a good source of calcium and afterall, it is called the *Milky* Way. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Mind boggling to think a Star can still burn, so to speak, (given that they emit light and heat) 12 billion years long.
Indeed. A slow-burning lamp in the dark seas of the universe.
@@RodMartinJrvery good analogy 👍
Even mind more mind boggling is that estimated life span of lowest mass red dwarfs can be as much as 14000 billion years! 1000 times longer than current age of the universe!
An alternative to 'star burning' is to consider the universe from an electrical perspective. The universe is full of moving charged particles and thus full of moving electric fields. The larger gas bodies in the universe (like Saturn, Jupiter and the Sun) have argon, neon and similar gases in their atmospheres which are fluoresced by these external electric currents, just like a fluorescent tube. Thus all these 'stars' are nothing but large giant gas balls which shine in visible wavelengths because of the fluorescence of their surface atmospheres by external currents. The larger the ball, the more current they intercept the brighter they shine. They do not 'generate' the light from inside to any degree at all.
Cheers for the rational explanation of complicated astrophysics. Your delivery and wit are wonderful. Space is such a beautiful thing to explore
His delivery is terrible. His wit non-existant. His credulousness bottomless.
so the center of the milky way is just a terrifying place to be
Nah because it moves at a different relative time so it looks chaotic to us but it’s normal to them. They see us in slow motion
Yeah, the frayed dragon theory really breaks my brain.
@@rora9553 haven’t heard of that theory? Do you have more info?
So is earth, but here we are lol
To be fair, so far as we know, everywhere except Earth is just a terrifying place to be. But some are more terrifying than others, and galactic centers are right up there for sure.
Thanks as always Anton. There's a lot of cool old stuff in the core that's waiting to be discovered.
Good video. You were addressing my concerns with this around the 9-minute mark. A star around 12 billion years old that we can see from here would need to be mass-wise a smaller G type star or a larger K type star and be past its main sequence phase and in its giant phase, so that it has expanded enough for us to notice it. It would probably max out in the 150-200 million km diameter range, and be burning red, and be 30,000 light years away. By comparison, Betelgeuse is probably around 10 times that size, and what, maybe 600 (estimates vary) light years away? Odds are you wouldn't be able to find our sun with the naked eye from 50 light years away. We really only know with certainty of the G, K and M type stars that are close to us.
I'm sure you thought REAL hard on this for some time 🙄
Almost 2 min before you said "hello wonderful person"...I thought I was gonna die!!!
Always excellent; thank you so much
The PIGS survey bit is hilarious. Did anyone else think "Piiigs Innnn Spaaace" 😂
Yes. Vividly. 😀
Wonderful. I've spent a year pouring over the Gaia DR3 data, extracting solar vicinity stars for my own 3D software. Always great to learn more on this topic.
Brilliant again Anton. Keep doing what you are doing
Imagining the center of the galaxy to be brimming with ancient life.
You're on fire. I appreciate your work
The population density in the region close to the centre of the galaxy is pretty hard to imagine from our quiet corner.
Love your work
7:24 „The sun was created from at least 40 different super nova“ 😂
I was created from 8 different nationalities in 4 generations. 😅
I love your editing, keeps me so engaged while I’m learning great knowledge.
I'm sure it does. 🙄
@@BleachDemon707 it does, been watching him for years and I’m subscribed on Patreon. Are you?
@@NPNGxD3ATH ...and?
Does that make it special?
Ya know what, idc. 😉
Wonderful Person Anton, are you working on an episode covering the Theory that the Universe is 26.7 Billion Years Old, instead of 13.8 Billion?
I heard about it a day or so ago.
Might wanna check into it.
Could explain a few things about the size of Ancient Severely Red-Shifted Galaxies. Among other things, if proven to be Correct.
Love your channel, been subbed for long time.
And understand what You and Your Family have experienced in the recent past.
But, you are Truly a Wonderful Person.
Continuing/Persevering thru whatever Life throws at You.
Kudos my Friend.
Not to mention Your varied, multi subject matter, explained and broken down for Anyone!!!!
Thank you so much for being the Wonderful Person You are.
I have a question, Anton! With this new measuring technique, did they determine that the sun is still within the age range they previously calculated?
Also can we date the sun to a better degree?
pigs! 3 different ones, sheep and dogs! love that album! Pink Floyd Animals!
Very interesting. I suspected there were a lot of these around, but glad to see some confirmation.
They should measure the change in the difference of light bending through gravitational forces and see if there is more gravity towards the center or something. Like for study of dark matter or similar things.
they have, but thanks for the suggestion. stay in the lane.
@@xenaluck I know they have, i just started a complex suggestion but abandoned it because i left my computer, came back and then didnt feel like finishing so i just left the beginning. Thanks for trying to reply while not understanding.
Interesting knowledge, thanks 😊
To think 40 previous stars have gone through their entire lives before ours was created is completely mind boggling.
You remain the king, Anton.
I wonder how long someone thought about how to make the PIGS acronym.
Was that a bit of Mark Gage Vapourspace I heard at the end?
Those must be secret maps!! Too good for people like me to see! 😄
How can we tell for sure that a really old star hasn't been contaminated by absorbing bits of dust and gas from its environment over the 12+ billion years of its life? Especially if so many hang around in a part of the galaxy densely packed with high-metalicity dust?
Typically, stellar winds prevent the influx of contaminating gas and dust. Larger cometary sized objects might be absorbed from time to time, but any contamination from those would be inconsequential relative to the total mass of a star.
@@stargazer5784 Unless it eats a planet.
Very interesting, as always. Thank you.
A question: How 'solid' is the relationship between Calcium and Iron? Is it an immutable relationship based on fundamental physics, an understood correlation, or simply an observation that seems to hold so far? The answer will say a lot about the reliability of such studies.
PS: FWVLIW - I suspect a lot of globular clusters are the remnants of huge population 3 stars given the way they likely end. Studies?
Thanks Anton for this awesome content.
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Where are the "different black-holes" from those "older/multiple collisions" that formed the Milky Way.
Is our Solar System safe from the risk of any wandering black-holes from those historica collisions.
Fascinating
May b there were ancient intergalactic civilizations...with various names of sectors...in it...
What about 16 Psyche?
What about it?
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I’m confused. How would the age of a young star made with a lot of supernovas be differentiated from slightly older stars made with a couple fewer supernova?
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Like Antons vids but this one had contradictions through out. Young stars start out mostly made of hydrogen and helium. But then ancient stars are also metal poor, ie i assume mostly hydrogen and helium?
I miss the idea in the theory..
Did Anton get it back to front..
They picked a great title "PIGS" had me laughing
What class or classes are these ancient stars?
Since Pop 3 stars emit a spectrum different from Pop 1 stars, have wonder if the metallicity of a star has anything to do with the creation, sustain and complexity of life on an applicable planet?
TY Anton for showing us that in our galaxy, some old stars are still hanging around. Just like Hollywood.
The old stars just don't move very fast. What's new?
What's the source for "at least forty different supernovas"? Specific-sounding number.
Come on, Anton!! "Half as close as our Sun"? Well, it's more logical than "Twice as close", I suppose...
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😊
The most likely place I think we could find population 3 stars would be in some of the most distant galaxies in the universe. The farther out we look, the farther back in time we are looking. But to do that we will need a telescope far better than James Webb
This may be one of those times we will never knew, they....just act that way.
If you say "we will never know", you are failing as a scientist
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guess he didn't see the new study that projects the universe is probably twice as old as they thought, so like 27 billion instead of 14
Source?
That's only a single study. One proposal. It will take alot of work and peer review to determine whether it's solid science, or just dust in the wind.
@@KnightspaceORG It's a proposal from some folks at the University of Ottawa. It rests on the previously debunked 'tired light' theory embraced by big bang denialists.
@@stargazer5784 none of the theories about the universe are solid, just theories because we don't have the capability and knowledge to prove them one way or another.
Australia is building a radio telescope
It would have been very weird if any star be older than the universe. I mean scientists should have known that if they said Methasulah, or any star, older than the universe would be impossible. But if it was older, the Big Bang either be older or that something is very fishy.
Wouldn't nearby supernovas contaminate old stars making them look more metal rich and younger than they actually are.
While the 26b years old might be a mistake, the Methuselah star may yet be a old as first thought if it is...
The dusty Zone of Avoidance...I have spent time there my friends....
3:26 Between 1/4-2/5 and above 6 you will find 3 stars of crenation 😮😂 it looks like a boomerang ❤
9:25 because matter need volume to exist 😂and visa versa 😮
wondering why our Galaxy would contain
stars as old as Universe
Thanks Anton
Thanks? For what? He come over and do your dishes or something? 🙄
I swear, humankind is DOOMED because of the internet 😒
Yea , those stage 3 stars are elusive .
Let me guess, these oldest-stars are also the galactic collision remnants who's occupants also happen to have more evolved sentients, war in heavens, yada yada
maybe those stars are part of the original milky way before collisions
- Do you know that guy?
- Ah, he's one of the PIGS...
Not a good idea for an acronym. 😬
So old stars should have no Rocky exoplanets, and less probability of life
I reckon pop 3 stars created all or most of the supermassive black holes and their galaxies
Black holes were here. The less dense portions of matter in space-time are what we're allowed to congealed to fuse hydrogen, thus creating population three stars. The original "primordial" black holes were most likely formed straightaway in the areas of denser matter.
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Gojira! Ahhhhhh!
@@stargazer5784 go, go GOJIRA‼️
If ,after many generations of regenerating stars would there be enough of another element other than hydrogen to create a different type of star like a Borat inspired potassium stellar body?
We already know about stellar remnants that look like they're mostly carbon. It's hard to call them stars though, fusion has ceased. So kind of / maybe?
Time is relative
Time Around a black hole galaxy centre ?
You see young stars?
Einstein published that in 1908.
Sorry 1915
If those stars are closer to the center of the Milky Way, shouldn't they be moving faster because they are closer to the gravitational center of the galaxy? 🤔
Could you comment or make a video about the latest Ottawa University study claiming the Universe is at least almost twice as old (27.7 billion years) as we theorised it to be? I've been having some trouble interpreting their results and I think most of us would like to hear about this. Great video though! I love your material it helps me so much with my studies!
Dr. Becky said she would have a video on that within the week.
In the paper, the foundation of Gupta's argument is that in addition to redshift light also gets "tired" -- meaning it loses energy and slows down over time, causing its frequency to shift even further and making galaxies even more distant than we think they are. But -- and this is a really BIG "but" -- outside of redshift, there's been no observed evidence of such a loss in energy. And, unless everything since Newton is wrong, there's no method for such a loss either. So until he has some proof of this effect, this isn't accepted science -- it's just another paper that all the cheapo clickbait websites are pushing really hard for ad revenue.
@@olencone4005Roger that.
So aliens is what you're saying 🤔
Could Population III stars be hiding in metal pollution from other supernovae?
the whole theory about stars is probably totaly wrong , so with this dating of stars.....
ever considered the universe might have no beginning or end and is timeless ? I read
somewhere it was mathematically proven...traveling with limitless speed one direction
makes you appear from the opposite direction ? i dont make it up , it was from dr R Steiner
a physicist and antroposophy teacher / writer...
There's more to Chemistry than than your philosophy allows 🙃
why wouldn't these ancient stars pick up metallic elements from all the nearby super-nova events? Is it that the central milkyway has been very stable over a very long period, despite the density?
I'm not an astronomer. My best guess would be that the solar wind from even an ancient, small star would be strong enough to prevent much in the way of in-fall.
The added mass from say supernova happening after their creation is probably very marginal compared to whatever material was there at their creation.
Stars are kinda boring they just sit there and get old 🤣
I didn't think I put a comment for the Almighty Algorithm, so I came back to make sure. 😊
Maybe these stars are artificially kept alive
Is the universe 26 Bn years old
Understanding how a system works, why is it still so hard to see that the galaxy is an analog to the atom?
The entire structure is a system. Nothing in a system is separate from the system. Our galaxy and our sun and our planet are exactly as they are meant to be: one, in a system.
The force that holds the components of an atom together is not the same force that holds the components of a solar system, or a galaxy together. It is analogous in superficial appearence only, not in the way the system works.
@@WaterShowsProd They are all vibrations; we choose to define them as this such and that such. From quantum dances to galatic filaments there is structure. The scale of the structure requires a different vibration to balance it, much like the Higgs stabilizes matter. A board, a firmament, to play the orchestra of the universe.
You call it a 'superficial analogy' but they are all just vibrations on magnitudinal-scale different planes.
@@TheRotnflesh No, I call them The Electromagnetic, The Strong, The Weak, and The Gravitational Forces, and the ways they in which they fuction are not the same. If you were to speparate a component of an atom from that atom it would result in a release of energy, hence radioactivity and nuclear explosions; if you were to remove a component from a solar system it would requre engergy, and there would not be an explosion resulting from that object leaving the system. Same is true for a galaxy. They are not being held together in the same way.
@@WaterShowsProd Time to an atom is not the same as for a star, or a galaxy. You are using labels to define vibrations; they are all vibrations from the quantum scale to the cosmic scale. Physics is a science of defining values in a system but our system extends beyond the visible universe and we now know gravity waves are part of the orchestra.
The universe is a never ending fractal. Everything swirls, everything dances. The only thing we really detect are values because our machines are tuned to values; we have no way of listening to the entire orchestra and so treat the various frequencies like they are separate components without relation. We even feel the thrumming in our lives when something comes along and plucks our life strings.
Albert Einstein -Everything in life is vibration.
@@terrycox1639 Just as the cells in your body collaborate with each other the stars collaborate with eachother in a cosmic dance just as atomic components collaborate; Our science just hasn't gotten there yet.
Take a chunk of the Milky Way, stars and all, and remove it. What will happen? A complete destabilization, like an unbalanced wheel spinning, will result; the galaxy will be altered completely.
Supposedly the forces affecting the removed stars do not affect the entire galaxy but their collective forces do, because they are part of that galaxy. That concept scales down: remove enough mass and the solar system loses stability. Remove enough cells and your body health suffers. Remove enough components and the atom falls apart or decays into a lesser element.
The only difference between these things is the value we assigned. They are all still vibrations in a symphony made delicately balanced by the frequencies it is playing.
0:47 HD 130283 Methuselah Star! Amazing.
in the Oldest part of the biblical Testament, the time was probably counted in "Moons", not Years; (that calendar came later). So Methuselah was 969 moons old, which was 78.3 years.
For me it gets a bit confusing~+mysterious with Henoch(Enoch), who didn't "die", but had a lifespan nevertheless: 365_"units(whatsoever)", which is pretty close to Earth's year; and if this number is divided by 12.36826... the number of 29.5... appears, which is the time of one synodic Moon orbit. Did the Henoch part in the Bible teach us some Basic Astronomy?
No. Religion is not a reliable guide to scientific thought. For that, you need science from scientists, not religious people.
What does 12.36826 represent ??
@@jige1225 It represents konrad's dependence on myths.
@@jige1225 it is 365.2422/29.530589 the synodic (sun_centered) Year divided by the synodic Moon orbit, data taken from my astronomy lexicon.
@@konradcomrade4845 OK, snake biting its own tail...
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Okay in the center of the Milky Way universe is always daylight. How hot is it in the center there where these old stars are? Is it possible Heaven is in the middle the Milky Way?
there's a lot of places it's always daylight.
such as 3 feet away from the sun
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14 bil is correct age, what's off is the life of the universe. 13 billion just makes me laugh like stargazer5784
Jokers are also usually considered to be.... Guess what?
astrophysicists don't want to admit that just maybe the universe is older than 13.8 billion or they're wrong about the Big bang
Give it time. They will change their minds.
No. The age still wouldn't effect the Big Bang.
Is AI good at making up questions? Or just solving the answer?
7:22 "The Sun for example was most likely created from at least 40 supernova." Would that be in sequence as in most of the matter from the sun went through 40 stellar life cycles before 4.5 billion years ago? That sounds like a lot considering how long the sun is living now and should continue living for billions of years to come. That would be an average of a different star being born and dying every couple hundred million years instead of lasting even 1 billion years.
Oof. Got em'
You sure you're not a famous youtuber?🙄
@@BleachDemon707 it's a legitimate question and I'm looking for educational answers. I get the impression you're more eager to gratify your need for excitement by annoying people than share any helpful knowledge. Hopefully one day you'll mature enough to find more mutually beneficial forms of entertainment but, until then, just refrain from bothering me please.
@@IARRCSimThe proposal that some 40 odd generations of supernovae contributed to the metal content of our star is based on a rather simple, although not altogether obvious premise. In our galaxy and many others, very large and dense gas and molecular complexes can be seen where star formation is very activity occurring on an ongoing basis. These complexes spawn giant stars, and small ones. The really big ones live fast and die hard within just a relatively few milion years as type 2 supernovae. Coming from giant pop 1 stars, these explosions scatter the heavy elements found in the progenitors all over, enriching the clouds that subsequent generations form from. The larger the star, the shorter it's life span. Really big stars explode after only a few million years on the main sequence, so in relation to cosmic timescales, 40 generations doesn't really mean too much. The more supernovae that have occurred, the higher the metal content of the gas and dust clouds in the area. Anyway, it's all just an approximation based on some fairly solid modeling. The actual number may be closer to 30 or 50 generations.
@@stargazer5784 thanks. Did stars tend to get more massive when the universe was younger and smaller? Is the universe's expansion or the extra metals leading to smaller, longer living stars in our time than in the first few billion years after time began? I get that bigger stars live faster but I want to know why our solar system's matter was mostly expected to have been part of so many generations of massive, short-lived stars as apposed to generations as long and at the stellar size of our solar system. Is our solar system unusually metal-rich to indicate so many past generations or is 30-50 generations very average?
@@IARRCSim I'm not sure if anyone has tried to calculate an average level of metallicity for the whole galaxy or not. There's quite alot of variation in the sizes and densities found in these star forming regions. The Orion complex is over 2000 lightyears wide and there are some that are even larger. Who knows how many generations of supernovae may have occurred there? Hundreds? The Pleiades, which actually has around 1000 known member stars and not just the familiar 7 sisters, occupies a rather small volume of space compared to Orion, but it's stars were also born in the depths of a cloud that's been eventually blown away by the stellar winds of the most massive members. There are probably fewer generations of supernovae within these smaller star forming regions than within the larger ones, leading to a lower metallicity content being found. Measuring the metallicity of member stars is one method that can be used to determine the overall size and mass of the original star forming nebula, if I remember correctly. I'm retired now and it's been decades since I studied this stuff, so it would be best to do some research and reading on this yourself, since much new information is probably now available. Cheers! 😎
Did anyone else see that it was just discovered that the universe is 26.7billion years old? I came straight here to Anton hoping to see if it was true
Relax. The assumptions they made to even suggest that idea were stretched pretty thin. Frazer did a good video on the subject.
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@@waynedarronwalls6468 nope, I'm real. Just a coincidence
'Calcium' - well at least we know our galaxy will have healthy bones. Afterall Milk is a good source of calcium and afterall, it is called the *Milky* Way. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣