Hey, just wanted to say that this was a super fun and informational video on the differences between the versions! I saw a pop up pirate game, and was curious on how they worked. Taking them apart to show the mechanisms definitely satiated my curiosity, but I felt so teased when you were doing the test to show how the older version did a pseudo-random approach lol.
Thanks. Got a new (vintage) game with some really interesting analogue circuitry that I had to work out how it worked recently. Watch out for that one. :)
i worked out the modern version wasn't random even as a really young kid but i'm not sure if i ever realised that you can turn the pirate. fascinating to see how an ingenious product was so heavily dumbed down yet still thrived through being mass advertised and easy birthday present fodder.
Fun fact: Apparently there was a Palitoy Bradgate version of Pop Up Pirate that had the same design and mechanism as the Action GT version of Pop Up Pirate, only this time in the Palitoy Bradgate version, the barrel didn’t have a base to screw into, which is exactly like in the versions we currently have today, and basically the red clothes of the pirate were yellow.
Thank you ! Very helpful. Just bought a second-hand game which I thought was not working.... bc it was not working/switching position like the one where we can borrow games... I had it open and was wondering WTF... Thank you for the idea of this video and how full of informations it is.
Here in Brazil they still use the old design. I'm playing with my son right now, and he got it for his birthday two years ago. It's the exact same design I used to play back in the early eighties.
Wow, that's weird! I thought that only the newer design was being made these days. It is an official Pop Up Pirate game or some type of off-brand version?
@@AtticRaidersRetroReviews it's semi official, you could say. It's made by Estrela, the biggest toy maker in the country, and they usually license games from the original makers. They are also the ones who manufacture and sell the Brazilian version of Monopoly, for example. They had discontinued Pula Pirata (the Brazilian name for the game) around the end of the 90s or so, and brought it back recently, so I guess the old design is a way to play to our nostalgia.
@@truehare Sounds interesting! Wonder why they went for the old design then - it's not as if most people even know that the old design is different from the new one...
Just bought this for my 3 yr old. I knew it was different and inferior straight away compared to my one as a child. The "random" feature is gone as shown in your video and only two rows of holes. Oh well, my 3 yr old loves it's still and that's what matters....i guess. hahaha
I’m trying to encourage my parents into buying this game again because the fact that there is a switch inside that makes the pirate pop up, l want to know if there is any kind of resistance putting the sword in the slot that makes him pop up compared to the ones without the switch
Maybe the people who have the tomy pop up pirate version of this game should take it out completely and then use some springs in the mechanism and use those springs to make the switch turn when the pirate is put back in to randomize it more
Nah. Never had one but after watching this I can claim the newer is definitely better, provided two crucial conditions are met, that is: First and foremost it's paramount that you have a spare pirate or in its defect, device a tool which enables you to spin the mechanism at will. Then you use another pirate with his base/"feet" cut down so you can place it pointing in any direction without giving away the actual solution/trap to the thing (maybe this step is not needed if you just place it softly, would need to experiment with that). The only drawback would be that a third person should set the mechanism to make it fairer. A solution to that could be implemented using a special tool to spin the mechanism, you could also cover the 'first' pirate in some way while turning him, etc. The 1985 one has two big drawbacks imho. One being that you can never set the pirate off with a single thrust, thus, completely losing the thrill of the first go. The other disadvantage and most off-putting is that if you concentrate on the feel of the swords as you are slotting them in, it looks as if you would tell right away the pattern. A solution to that could be that you could agree with your opponent beforehand that swords should be thrusted in a swiftly fashion to avoid 'revealing feels. Thanks for the video, you solved one of the mysteries which have been lurking in my mind all these years. Next one to transcendence is the biting dog pressing teeth thingy...
The notches you can see on the sword blades are actually clip-like protrusions, which make you have to apply enough force to "snap" the sword in, so you can't feel the mechanism until it's too late.
@@RetroMaticGamer Too late to avoid the snap but just on time to avoid setting the pirate off and that's exactly my point, you just need to feel it the first time, cuz you always need at least a second sword, Did you see it's a two/three-step mechanism, right? Arguably a more complex mechanism but a total giveaway slash party pooper. Too much plastic and triggers to rely on to conceal that many intricacies, I'm starting to think they wanted to go the extra mile and regretted later.
Probably the only mod needed for the newer version would be to have the pirate have lots of slits underneath, rather than just two. There's a 3D printed randomizer for that.
Kinda annoying, but I’m able to attain randomness by first inserting the pirate and spinning him around a few times, then taking him out and spinning around the barrel, then putting the pirate back in without spinning him.
Dude.. I've search on ebay, they sell about $50, but delivery cost $150. Then, I bought one, with one trigger, I will try to cut the bottom of doll, i hope it make a little bit randomize, or if it doesnt work, I try to modify to make it random trigger..
@@aereacleara8960 Yes, international shipping is a killer - there are many US games that I'd love to owe, and they're cheap enough, but the shipping on top is crazy. Hope your experiment goes well - let me know how you get on. :)
I have the 1980 version I think. The pirate is with a beard which is not a sticker. His eye and black thing is painted also not a sticker. Do not know how to add photo here. Also there is no island on the bottom like in new versions.
So.. ive been search all day long to buy the original toy (with complex mechanism) but its hard, but i found one with very very high price... Why they not produce with more complex right now??
I stumble upon your video, because I was searching how pirate barrel game work in Running-Man. Yoo Jae-suk knows this pattern, so I believe they are using the "cheap" mechanism one.
I must have had an earlier one or a prototype pirate, he was a white blo de little boy with a hanky tied in knots on his head, I've never found another, discovered it in my loft Update: he didn't have clothes and I seem to remember he has a little butt, a bit like trolls
Sounds kind of similar to Diver Dan bath toy figure, but there have been so many variations of this toy it could certainly be a Pop Up Pirate spin off.
Hey, just wanted to say that this was a super fun and informational video on the differences between the versions! I saw a pop up pirate game, and was curious on how they worked. Taking them apart to show the mechanisms definitely satiated my curiosity, but I felt so teased when you were doing the test to show how the older version did a pseudo-random approach lol.
Glad you enjoyed it. I love finding out how hidden mechanisms work. :)
I haven’t seen this toy in years! I forgot all about it until i watched this, love the vibe this video gives off
Thanks. Got a new (vintage) game with some really interesting analogue circuitry that I had to work out how it worked recently. Watch out for that one. :)
i was wondering how this was in my recommended then I remembered I watch all of jacksucksatpopuppirates videos
All our home page is gonna be filles with pop up pirate
Jack needs to see this
I'm pretty sure everyone who's seen this video has also watched Jack and just had it randomly recommended to them
Yeah probably
Yup
No, I’m here to find out how it works (AI hope he actually explains in, haven’t watched it yet). Who is Jack?
No idea who or what that is. Wanted to see the insides of the 89 version I had
i worked out the modern version wasn't random even as a really young kid but i'm not sure if i ever realised that you can turn the pirate. fascinating to see how an ingenious product was so heavily dumbed down yet still thrived through being mass advertised and easy birthday present fodder.
Yes, the original mechanism is SO much better than the modern version
Jacksucksatpopuppirate should react to this
Yesssss
Fun fact: Apparently there was a Palitoy Bradgate version of Pop Up Pirate that had the same design and mechanism as the Action GT version of Pop Up Pirate, only this time in the Palitoy Bradgate version, the barrel didn’t have a base to screw into, which is exactly like in the versions we currently have today, and basically the red clothes of the pirate were yellow.
It's great to see how these work. I can't believe how bad the later ones are!
Background musics are sea shanties from AC 4 BF.
13:51 nice catch
AHOY THERE ME HARTIES
Just learned that on the older Action GT version, the girl on the front is a young Emma Bunton from the Spice Girls! Who knew?!
useless, pub quiz trivia!
Thank you ! Very helpful. Just bought a second-hand game which I thought was not working.... bc it was not working/switching position like the one where we can borrow games... I had it open and was wondering WTF... Thank you for the idea of this video and how full of informations it is.
Here in Brazil they still use the old design. I'm playing with my son right now, and he got it for his birthday two years ago. It's the exact same design I used to play back in the early eighties.
Wow, that's weird! I thought that only the newer design was being made these days. It is an official Pop Up Pirate game or some type of off-brand version?
@@AtticRaidersRetroReviews it's semi official, you could say. It's made by Estrela, the biggest toy maker in the country, and they usually license games from the original makers. They are also the ones who manufacture and sell the Brazilian version of Monopoly, for example.
They had discontinued Pula Pirata (the Brazilian name for the game) around the end of the 90s or so, and brought it back recently, so I guess the old design is a way to play to our nostalgia.
@@truehare Sounds interesting! Wonder why they went for the old design then - it's not as if most people even know that the old design is different from the new one...
Just bought this for my 3 yr old. I knew it was different and inferior straight away compared to my one as a child. The "random" feature is gone as shown in your video and only two rows of holes. Oh well, my 3 yr old loves it's still and that's what matters....i guess. hahaha
The fact that the bootleg pop up pirate is 1% better because the swords are not attached to the mold thingybabber
thank you so much. thanks to this video i was able to fix my barrel
I’m trying to encourage my parents into buying this game again because the fact that there is a switch inside that makes the pirate pop up, l want to know if there is any kind of resistance putting the sword in the slot that makes him pop up compared to the ones without the switch
Worked that out pretty quickly.
Diggin the Stan Rogers music
ARRRR!!! It's a barrel of fun, Bucko! ☠
TH-cam recommendations has joined us together again. Also how do you have only 50 subs?
UR SUCH A GOOD RAPPER I KINDA MADE A RAP SONG BY PRESSING THE ARROW KEYS IN THE NUMPAD LMAO
Maybe the people who have the tomy pop up pirate version of this game should take it out completely and then use some springs in the mechanism and use those springs to make the switch turn when the pirate is put back in to randomize it more
extremely underrated
Totally agree. And the older game is even better!
AHOY THERE ME HARTIES! @JackSucksAtPopUpPirate should react to this... I think he will like it
Nah. Never had one but after watching this I can claim the newer is definitely better, provided two crucial conditions are met, that is: First and foremost it's paramount that you have a spare pirate or in its defect, device a tool which enables you to spin the mechanism at will. Then you use another pirate with his base/"feet" cut down so you can place it pointing in any direction without giving away the actual solution/trap to the thing (maybe this step is not needed if you just place it softly, would need to experiment with that). The only drawback would be that a third person should set the mechanism to make it fairer. A solution to that could be implemented using a special tool to spin the mechanism, you could also cover the 'first' pirate in some way while turning him, etc.
The 1985 one has two big drawbacks imho. One being that you can never set the pirate off with a single thrust, thus, completely losing the thrill of the first go. The other disadvantage and most off-putting is that if you concentrate on the feel of the swords as you are slotting them in, it looks as if you would tell right away the pattern. A solution to that could be that you could agree with your opponent beforehand that swords should be thrusted in a swiftly fashion to avoid 'revealing feels.
Thanks for the video, you solved one of the mysteries which have been lurking in my mind all these years. Next one to transcendence is the biting dog pressing teeth thingy...
That's an interesting work around. I still prefer the older model, but yes, I agree that those are drawbacks to it.
The notches you can see on the sword blades are actually clip-like protrusions, which make you have to apply enough force to "snap" the sword in, so you can't feel the mechanism until it's too late.
@@RetroMaticGamer Too late to avoid the snap but just on time to avoid setting the pirate off and that's exactly my point, you just need to feel it the first time, cuz you always need at least a second sword, Did you see it's a two/three-step mechanism, right?
Arguably a more complex mechanism but a total giveaway slash party pooper. Too much plastic and triggers to rely on to conceal that many intricacies, I'm starting to think they wanted to go the extra mile and regretted later.
Probably the only mod needed for the newer version would be to have the pirate have lots of slits underneath, rather than just two. There's a 3D printed randomizer for that.
Oh now i need that Usama version :-D
Kinda annoying, but I’m able to attain randomness by first inserting the pirate and spinning him around a few times, then taking him out and spinning around the barrel, then putting the pirate back in without spinning him.
Geez... I really want it.. The old toys.. If you know where i can buy it in Indonesia... Please tell me...
No idea there I'm afraid. Trawling eBay and second hand stores are your best bet.
Dude.. I've search on ebay, they sell about $50, but delivery cost $150. Then, I bought one, with one trigger, I will try to cut the bottom of doll, i hope it make a little bit randomize, or if it doesnt work, I try to modify to make it random trigger..
@@aereacleara8960 Yes, international shipping is a killer - there are many US games that I'd love to owe, and they're cheap enough, but the shipping on top is crazy. Hope your experiment goes well - let me know how you get on. :)
I have the 1980 version I think. The pirate is with a beard which is not a sticker. His eye and black thing is painted also not a sticker. Do not know how to add photo here. Also there is no island on the bottom like in new versions.
I think that's the best version for sure!
Где получилось купить? Весь инет уже обшкебаю не могу найти старую версию((
So.. ive been search all day long to buy the original toy (with complex mechanism) but its hard, but i found one with very very high price... Why they not produce with more complex right now??
I think the simpler one is just more cost effective: less complex and fewer moving parts = easier and quicker (and therefore cheaper) to manufacture.
Played the original when it was new. Great fun. Never played the newer version. I think I'd get bored pretty quick!
Yes, the newer versions mechanism is nowhere near as well made as the originals. :)
@@AtticRaidersRetroReviews Quality is the victim of costcutting in so many fields.
JackSucksAtPopUpPirate sent me here without his knowledge!
My childhood is broke😅
Someone wants to make a “one piece” edition one day
I've never seen the simple one
Nice
Is it cheating to look inside the holes of the barrel?
Definitely! 🤣 Though it's too dark to see anything inside the barrel.
But my eyes are strong and can see inside
I can definitely see what is happening inside that barrel
If you're an adult or smart child you're going to figure this out.....I never figured this out. 😥
I stumble upon your video, because I was searching how pirate barrel game work in Running-Man. Yoo Jae-suk knows this pattern, so I believe they are using the "cheap" mechanism one.
I must have had an earlier one or a prototype pirate, he was a white blo de little boy with a hanky tied in knots on his head, I've never found another, discovered it in my loft
Update: he didn't have clothes and I seem to remember he has a little butt, a bit like trolls
Sounds kind of similar to Diver Dan bath toy figure, but there have been so many variations of this toy it could certainly be a Pop Up Pirate spin off.
@@AtticRaidersRetroReviews I had a look but that wasn't the same, the figure had the same base as pop up pirate and the same cylindrical body
Yohoho
pomf =3
WHAT DID I STUMBLE INTO
Jack sucks at pop up pirate gang
Peppa pig 🐷
disappointment
If old design is better.. Why they produce mass bad design nowdays?
The older design had more moving pieces, more metal and more complex molds. Newer one is cheaper to produce, so more profit.
Im looking for old design in my country, no one sell it.. If they build better quality.. Then price should be follow...