You are NOT looking at the fretboard CORRECTLY

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  • @Ibaneddie76
    @Ibaneddie76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +825

    Kind of funny that people have written big fat complicated books trying to teach what you just taught in just under 13 minutes, great job Will!

    • @wammons007
      @wammons007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ok im so confused I need to watch again

    • @andrewsmart3883
      @andrewsmart3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      And just like every other explanation, I still don’t understand how this makes things easier but maybe someday.

    • @JesseLeeKing
      @JesseLeeKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah he made it easier to construe because he wasn't trying to get a book published showing off his knowledge.

    • @Buzza235
      @Buzza235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome to TH-cam

    • @paulhendershott667
      @paulhendershott667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm a dear in the headlights - mesmerized, can't look away, but so utterly confused... I'll keep trying!😊

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Every teacher told me to 'learn the circle of fifths' but NONE of them explained how it fit on the fretboard. Took me way too long to memorize what is actually pretty simple. Great job with this concept and video!

  • @mattmaugeri2486
    @mattmaugeri2486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I am almost embarrassed that after playing for 30+ years I’ve NEVER seen the fretboard like this. Wow and THANK YOU!

    • @vafito44
      @vafito44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤯

    • @LuCiFeRSDS
      @LuCiFeRSDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And I am just as embarrassed lol. Thanks X2 ;)

    • @subhendubiswas3013
      @subhendubiswas3013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Been playing guitar for more than 14 years and I felt you there

    • @LuCiFeRSDS
      @LuCiFeRSDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pinkfloyddwc in my case you are correct. I'm self taught and can't read a note of music... Sorry for being such a disappointment

    • @daleaitken714
      @daleaitken714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are not alone. I would have written this entire comment but you did it for me.

  • @zacharyminer3579
    @zacharyminer3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Guys I don't think any of us truly grasp how much money he gave up offering this info to us. I'm a lifelong musician since practically before I could walk. Hundreds of theory lessons, thousands of hours writing, and playing my guitar. Never ONCE, EVER did anyone (or myself) put 2 and two together. The amount of literal YEARS this would've saved me is astounding. You're a legend. Love and respect from NC. I love you. Like no really I do. Absolute legend.

    • @jameshunter6467
      @jameshunter6467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome brother that's good to hear, I hope your musical journey is going well!

  • @FLStelth
    @FLStelth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I watch many videos about guitar and after watching I always feel that it's a miracle that some can make sense out of any of this and are somehow able to play music. I pick around on my guitar and I learned a few chords but it's like having a pile of building materials with no concept of how a house goes together.

  • @Taylor-kd6lr
    @Taylor-kd6lr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    This presentation is fantastic. I honestly have never seen anyone explain the fretboard in this way. This is probably the best presentation I have seen on this topic. You have given me a whole new way to look at the fretboard. Thankyou very much for this!!

    • @ceelothatmane9421
      @ceelothatmane9421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you play bass you learn this from a lot of bass players. This is how they pickup the fretboard considering they have to rely less on patterns and more on the exact notes.

  • @malka1762
    @malka1762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I owe you my life, genuinely 😭 I'm a pianist so not knowing where the notes on the guitar are for the most part has been hell, and I really struggled with other memorization methods. I genuinely feel blessed that this ended up in my recommended, thank you!

    • @SixString_J5
      @SixString_J5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bonus: assign a natural note to each day of the week. 7 natural notes, 7 days. Find and play that days note on all the strings going string to string, then try skipping 2 strings, 3 strings, etc. Spend between 2-5 minutes a day doing this and you'll be amazed how fast you memorize the fretboard.
      (Flies away)

  • @PaulJonesy
    @PaulJonesy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Comparing the fretboard to an abacus or slide rule is a great analogy, it’s a visual tool to help you play music. For me, a revelation has been to realise that the same pattern of notes in the major scale repeats from the root all over the neck,so if you know the key you’re in, you can visually see the 3, 5, 7 etc. couple that with a knowledge of which intervals modify in each mode or scale and you can go a long way.

    • @dr.strawberry5773
      @dr.strawberry5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yup. throw in a little pentatonic shape to be able to jump octaves easy, good to go

  • @areyouawesome
    @areyouawesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Figured this out on my own. He put it into a teachable lesson. Will definitely be sharing.

  • @OniByFame
    @OniByFame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started playing guitar a year ago and I'm so glad that I found this video at the beginning of my journey. THANK YOU!!!

  • @rockbandftmfw9
    @rockbandftmfw9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    This was an awesome look into the fretboard for people who learn visually, this helped so much as well as made it clear how important the Circle of Fifths is. Thank you!

    • @christianlogan161
      @christianlogan161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People don't learn visually. It's a myth.

    • @rockbandftmfw9
      @rockbandftmfw9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christianlogan161 cool

    • @un_kn0wn427
      @un_kn0wn427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christianlogan161 we get it you're old

    • @christianlogan161
      @christianlogan161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@un_kn0wn427 No it really is a straight up myth. I was doing my GCSE's when it started getting pushed out. There is no evidence supporting it. I'm doing a degree in psychology, my lecturers and A-level teachers both discredit it. You learn through deeper understanding and active recall.

    • @un_kn0wn427
      @un_kn0wn427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@christianlogan161 cite your sources dawg cuz rn you're working purely off of "trust me bro"

  • @footsgrandson
    @footsgrandson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I think it’s more beneficial to think of it in terms of the circle of 4ths (yes, I know it’s the same thing in the opposite direction). Because the strings have a perfect 4th between them, not a 5th (with the exception of the third and second string.)

    • @The_Kirk_Lazarus
      @The_Kirk_Lazarus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *cycle of fourths

    • @matthewg4882
      @matthewg4882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea i agree, i guess the circle of fifths is more common to musicians but it makes more sense to use the circle of fourths

    • @generalawareness101
      @generalawareness101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Just admit it the guitar is a fucked up instrument that really is just an overly bastardized instrument that wasn't made to conform to music rather made to make music with. Damn well sucks as a beginner where other instruments are logical, and linear.

    • @daxster25
      @daxster25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean it entirely depends on what the context is, it's in 5ths if your tonal centre is going 1-2 and 3-4-5-6 with a 6th between 2-3 or you can say it's in 4ths going 6-5-4-3 and 2-1 and a 3rd going 3-2. Visualizing it one way over the other offers no benefit since it changes depending on what you're playing

    • @YanGlina
      @YanGlina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can also think of intervals and the number/Nashville system, where you can find the IV (next string same fret) or V (next string, two frets over), octave (V “+” IV), and the III when going between G and B.

  • @bassdowg
    @bassdowg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is SO FAR the best instructional video on the MOST Practical way of applying the Circle of 5ths to the Guitar , it is perfect marriage between the Cicle of 5ths and the guitar in Music Heaven when in comes to Quickly mastering the Fret board !!! Excellent job in producing this Great Video !!!

  • @NishantDCali
    @NishantDCali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! This is a game changer

  • @andrewkratz226
    @andrewkratz226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Been playing 30 years… this is a really different and logical way to look at it. Great stuff, I appreciate this.

  • @SuperJ333
    @SuperJ333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Well it's an interesting way to look at it, and it's a useful string to have to your bow, but in my view there are even more effective ways of actually learning the notes without counting.
    One thing I would recommend trying is to take a note, say A, and play all the A notes on each string, from bass to treble, but avoid using open strings or going beyond the 12th fret - there's only going to be one per string!
    Then play them back down again, until you can do that, up and down, 3 times, and at a reasonable speed (over 60 bpm) without making a mistake.
    OK, you have to think at first, but because you're not just thinking but playing and saying and hearing, a muscle memory type of effect kicks in - then you can move on to the next note.
    Once you've got them all you can try going up on one note, and down on another, until whatever note anyone says, you can find it on every string.
    For me, this is also easier, and more useful when playing lead - try it!

    • @patientswim6888
      @patientswim6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah this seems far easier to me. I couldnt follow the video though to be fair. I gathered that before you even attempt to learn things like the video describes you have to innately know the circle of fifths

    • @SuperJ333
      @SuperJ333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@patientswim6888 Exactly - you need some basic knowledge of music theory for this, and to understand what's meant by 'intervals' and in this case '5th's.'
      And that's all good - we do need to know that eventually, but you don't have to wait until then to start learning the notes.
      In fact, using the method I've described, my students pretty much know where the notes are before we get to learning music theory, and that actually helps with learning it!
      Just use the 12th frets instead of open strings, where appropriate, and learn one note at a time - a quick run through at the start of each practice session is enough - don't bore yourself!
      Once you can go up and down 3 times on each note (I'd say the naturals A B C D E F G) try going up and down on different notes - that's a real workout - say up D, back down F, up C down E, up A down G, up B down D....
      Finally you can do the same for the incidentals (the 5 sharp or flat notes) - then apply for the X factor immediately!

    • @patientswim6888
      @patientswim6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@SuperJ333 I'm going to choose to go down this route as I think it will be easier and less frustrating for me. The fact that you're a teacher that's more than good enough for me. Many thanks.

    • @MrMagnuminium
      @MrMagnuminium 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Me too

    • @IAmMr.Scrambler
      @IAmMr.Scrambler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      can you make a video of what you​ just posted sir.. seems interesting!!!

  • @AlCapwndYou
    @AlCapwndYou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This video, by far, has best helped me understand the interval relationship of the guitar.
    Yes you can memorize the fretboard.
    Yes you can learn by tabs.
    Yes you can "just play by ear and who needs theory".
    However, simply pointing out that the guitar effectively is tuned to the Circle of Fifths (aka spaced in 4ths) really helped break me out of the "let me count the frets up to know what note this is" mentality.
    This helps me now determine what is under my fingers without using slow "addition", I can now use algebra (a formula).
    I now can know where to find all the root notes in any key, and use that to build further muscle memory.
    I can play a note randomly in the middle of the guitar, and know much quicker the surrounding intervals.
    Now none of this will make me shred faster, or strum Margaritaville better. However, from a fretboard mapping standpoint, as an advanced beginner / early intermediate player, this is really valuable. It helps explain WHY the pentatonic box 1 shape is the way it is, for example.
    I am looking forward for additional practical applications, but I sincerely am grateful that instead of just brute-force memorizing, or slow counting, I have a way to understand the relationship of how the guitar is ordered.
    Thank you for posting this, it was incredibly helpful for me compared to all the snake-oil guitar course videos that get advertised.

    • @TheAbsolyte
      @TheAbsolyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel the same way! He made this right when I needed it:)

    • @gregschroer2314
      @gregschroer2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but Paul Simon once said learn all the theory you can you can and then forget it. Not that you cannot always learn more But you can avoid having to be spoon fed

  • @OpinionatedMonk
    @OpinionatedMonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This genius has convinced me to not even attempt to understand this, and to continue playing by ear and by making it up.
    But I can appreciate how good this is, even if it's way beyond my ability.

    • @tad5920
      @tad5920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am right there with you! I have never really understood the circle of 5ths, so obviously this was a wee bit over my head.

    • @flintdavis2
      @flintdavis2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can do it. Just break it down. Don't try to understand it on one look, watch and listen over and over just like practicing a riff. So it takes you a month. You'll have it for a lifetime.🤙

  • @XLBiker13
    @XLBiker13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Used to listen to you regularly way back in the early Will's Easy Guitar days and thought your music theory videos were second to none. Then your videos evolved and were about anything but music theory. Glad to see you're back at it because you are an exceptional teacher. No one can turn music theory into simple common sense like you. Truly amazing. Thank you.

  • @mattsmithsongs
    @mattsmithsongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive been playing guitar for over 20 years and i have never understood the fretboard. this gets me a little bit closer to achieving that. thank you!

  • @moonboogien8908
    @moonboogien8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm torn between being more confused and totally enlightened.....
    Which just makes me want to learn more.
    And thats a good thing.

  • @mattbridglall8364
    @mattbridglall8364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pro guitar players would never teach this. Theres alot of videos, this is the best, Mr. I never think about it this way. Thank you for showing this. For now on this will be my way of living on the fret board

  • @farelli608
    @farelli608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:40 Very interesting way to look at it. Using the circle of fifths, pick a key, move one to the left (or counter-clockwise/anti-clockwise), and then as you said it's the 3 Majors, the 3 minors, and the diminished. But I also see the pattern: 4-1-5-2-6-4-7, or more specifically IV - I - V - ii - vi - iv - vii°.
    Pretty cool indeed.

    • @jakekeys88music
      @jakekeys88music 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? It was a new one on me. Something I'll keep in mind and teach!

  • @mi.dogman4438
    @mi.dogman4438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a bass player for 40+ years. I of course play guitar to a degree. But, this way of looking at the fret board is awesome. Thank you for bringing this thought process to light. Awesome!

  • @montraix
    @montraix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I appreciate this, but the circle of fifths is needlessly confusing for most people. Training it as intervals makes much more sense

    • @atharbarghouthi9649
      @atharbarghouthi9649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yea i'm irritated at the amount of comments praising this, just memorizing the places of the notes through practice is well enough.

    • @PercyJackson93
      @PercyJackson93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atharbarghouthi9649 if that's all this is for, thanks for the help. I'm so confused to why people learn this

    • @sunburnfreezerburn1
      @sunburnfreezerburn1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any recommendations for a good video explaining the interval method?

    • @LoupBlancEA
      @LoupBlancEA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The circle of fifths is used to unlock simple key modulation, and a bunch of other cool stuff. If you like to have freedom in playing, then you would learn it anyway, and the guitar is literally tuned this way. Rote learning the notes also takes effort but doesn't enable you the same way. But if you prefer to avoid thinking too much, you do you! 😁

    • @montraix
      @montraix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@LoupBlancEA as a composer of symphonies understanding the relationship between intervals and the emotions they evoke can be great, but music is written from the heart and plucked from the “ether” for lack of a better term. Baach said it, Paul Mccartney said it. And if you’re gifted in writing music, you know this to be true. Those who write to formulas don’t “hear” the music. Those that write well don’t need the explanation m, but understand music theory, often both intuitively and technically. I corrected my music theory professor several times on my first day of music theory and taught them a simple method for bypassing the circle of fifths: the relative major of Am is C. Take the A, raise it two whole steps, drop it a half step. Done. Finding the relative minor of a major, F Major, raise it a half step, drop it two whole steps to D. Dm is the relative minor of F Major. Done. After a minute or two you can do this in about a second. Music, and music theory exists completely independently of the circle of fifths, and to imply that it’s some breakthrough for learning music is disingenuous. It’s a method for some people, and if it was a breakthrough for you, congratulations. It took me all of about 3 seconds to figure out an easier way for myself and my classmates in both High School Music Theory class and my College Music Theory class. That doesn’t make it the only way, but it is certainly more efficient, especially if you already know your scales

  • @austindodson2541
    @austindodson2541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    15 yrs of playing and you changed my world man, thank you so much & I will definitely check out the website!!❤️

  • @donnacolwell3988
    @donnacolwell3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In thirteen minutes you've explained what I've been struggling with for nearly two years. I've watched countless videos with tips and techniques to learn the fretboard, but none of them helped. This is the only lesson I've seen that makes perfect, logical sense. THANK YOU!

  • @ryandavidson2502
    @ryandavidson2502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg. This is the beat explanation anyone has ever given me. I'm self taught and could just never understand the circle of 5ths. Watched many videos and read things on it but nothing ever clicked with me.
    You however just explained in a way that is much easier to understand. Still don't fully understand it but I have much stronger grasp on it now. Glad I clicked on this video, you're a good teacher. New subscriber here

  • @garyclements318
    @garyclements318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read a theory book and saw the circle of 5ths , and tried to memorize it, but never seen it like this on fret board. Thank you.
    I just learned them by bass strings then used octave chords to find notes. Wow, wish i would had this explained 20 yrs ago.

  • @straightshooter8662
    @straightshooter8662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great and a must but only for key centers knowing your intervals is the 2cd part to this IMO the 2 together you've got it made

  • @kelzakdub
    @kelzakdub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was a self taught guitar player but played concert instruments my whole life. I only started to truly recognize these patterns on the fretboard once I got through college music theory. This was presented beautifully!

    • @sarthakq
      @sarthakq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can you play on a scale of 1 to ten... ??? And ten being awesome guitarist. ...

    • @kelzakdub
      @kelzakdub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarthakq guitar? Probably 5-6/10 but I'm a better bass player

  • @vincentvdakker
    @vincentvdakker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanx a lot for this perspective. I never looked at the fretboard this way.

  • @mamoe3
    @mamoe3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Might be helpful to have the circle of 5th’s on a split screen for those of us who don’t have it memorized. You say the notes as if they’re easy to retrieve. What you were claiming to be easy didn’t make a lick of sense to me. I guess this is too advanced for me.

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto lol

    • @MrAcid45
      @MrAcid45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds like skill issue

    • @FaithlessFlight
      @FaithlessFlight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really needed if you just count up 5 notes

    • @Hurricane9146
      @Hurricane9146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MrAcid45 this video is directed at people who don’t know the fretboard, ie beginner entry level. I wonder why they wouldn’t be skilled if they don’t know the board yet? What a genius, this is why you’re not teaching these things.

    • @MrAcid45
      @MrAcid45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Hurricane9146 This video is more reserved for people who have a great foundation with the guitar and to show them a better way to visualize and to remember the notes, not for beginners. Granted, it would of helped to have the circle of fifths somewhere in the video and thus this video suffers juuuuust a tad bit for this. But hey that’s solved easily by googling the circle of fifths and memorizing it, hell I’m pretty sure the TH-camr has a video somewhere teaching the circle of fifths

  • @jajahbinks
    @jajahbinks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been working on memorizing the fretboard. This is a very helpful way to think about it. Thanks for the share!

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad I got the fretboard course. Made things a lot easier to connect things.

    • @chingonbass
      @chingonbass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it a game changer?

    • @majesticpbjcat7707
      @majesticpbjcat7707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chingonbass everything on the internet is a "game changer" and whatever you've been doing is wrong and the video you're about to watch is gonna "blow your mind" because it's gonna show you how to do whatever you've been doing wrong your whole life the actual RIGHT way now!

  • @Nikkimaya1
    @Nikkimaya1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. My mind is blown. I've been playing 40 yrs and it has never occurred to me to look at the fret board this way. Why don't anybody teach it this way. I'm always using the circle of fifths when writing songs. This has been hiding in plain sight all this time. Thanks. First video I've seen from you and that's all it took for me to subscribe

  • @dadudeguy2vlog
    @dadudeguy2vlog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I’m speechless. I feel like I’ve been on a journey looking for something I’ve had all along. I’ve learned more in this video than I’ve learned in 14 years…. Awesome, Will!

  • @jasonkesser
    @jasonkesser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been saying the guitar is an abacus for awhile, so nice to hear someone else say it. But I haven’t been able to fully apply the circle of fifths to it, so thank you. Glad I’m subscribed to this channel.

  • @nelsonsanchez2880
    @nelsonsanchez2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the longest time I was trying to memorize it just as he explained. I would move laterally. I knew that the standard tuning was base on the circle of 5th but i never applied it all thought the neck of the guitar. Thank you sooooo much!

  • @Exrimordonaj
    @Exrimordonaj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this just opened my mind up. when trying to find what key I wanted I always counted linear like you said because that’s how I learned. Thanks for this video.

  • @digitalfriar6934
    @digitalfriar6934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This made total sense and I wish someone would have explained this to me sooner. Thank you!

    • @patientswim6888
      @patientswim6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This made absolutely no sense to me as being an easier way than just learning where all the notes are. It seems like a much more taxing process on your brain?

  • @zappaduster100
    @zappaduster100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Gelvin, that's so cool. I instantly figure out every note of my fretboard now.. Thanks a lot.

  • @arudd909
    @arudd909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve known that the guitar/bass is tuned in the circle of fifths but never even thought to use it as a guide in this way. Will definitely help with sight reading.

  • @axmnstrbnd
    @axmnstrbnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are unlocking everything that I've never seen before out of all these years.

  • @TheWrightTimes
    @TheWrightTimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brilliant. Not seen anyone explain it like that before. Thank you from a complete novice

    • @rolandquilente9318
      @rolandquilente9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’ve never seen anyone teach it this way because it only works if you’ve gotten past the beginner stage and if you are interested in music theory. You will confuse lots of beginners if you talk about circle of fifths and changing the B and E to a C and F in the tuning. 99.9% of guitar teachers will concentrate on what will be enjoyable and easy to learn for beginners.

  • @nickm8651
    @nickm8651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Your the first to open and show us this and now, it's a game changer.

  • @j3m638
    @j3m638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's an excellent presentation. We all go on about keys but really this is the only key that matters. I'd love to see a digital animation of this with colors for each of those notes & the visual patterns they'd create. What a learning tool that would be! Thanks for this.

  • @BrianODonohue
    @BrianODonohue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to view this a few more times but this may be what I've been looking for! Thank You!

  • @jakekeys88music
    @jakekeys88music 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a great perspective! I'm a pianist and coming to guitar after plenty of years of Classical and formal music training through keyboards. I've had some moments of understanding the guitar fretboard unlocked and building the relationships just through practice, my ear, and noodling. I guess I probably knew already the relationship with the Circle of Fifths, but now I can CLEARLY see it. These devices will stay with me. I can definitely transfer it to other instruments like ukulele or accordion (buttons for chords are arranged in Circle of Fifths). And honestly, that diagram near the end, with the diatonic scale arranged in the Circle of Fifths to know which chords are major and minor and the diminished -- that was brand new! (Never seen it explained that way in Music Theory classes.) This video deserves a lot more views. Thanks!

  • @MrDenyingSoul
    @MrDenyingSoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good way of teaching Will. I play in Open C Major tuning and it also makes a new guitar player have no fears like your showing in standard.

  • @Superabound2
    @Superabound2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for reminding me that i have absolutely NO idea how music works

  • @MrHanzeeman
    @MrHanzeeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is FANTASTIC! I have the Father, Charles, Goes, Down, And,Ends,Battle... Memorized since high school. I use it often when playing in the relative minor of a song, since I love the Minor Scale pattern. But I never knew that I could use the same acronym for the notes.
    This is such a help! Thanks so much

  • @Leo_ofRedKeep
    @Leo_ofRedKeep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The viola player kept a note in his jacket. It said "viola left, bow right".
    All these mnemonic tricks to know where notes are, no matter how smart, are still at least one calculating step away from direct memorisation.

  • @Joshua.M.S.
    @Joshua.M.S. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been avoiding watching this because I thought it was a click bait title... nope...you just blew my mind, thank you.

  • @drainedeyes4268
    @drainedeyes4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great presentation, thank you man. I've been practicing so much, but I was almost putting off wrapping my head around this concept, but you just made it SO much easier to understand.

  • @Fretlessness
    @Fretlessness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate this being helpful to so many folks, and I think it's 1 great method. Like knowing how to navigate around yer town, the more ways you know something, the better/more deeply you understand it
    I think linear thinking cannot be disregarded, bc guitar is essentially 6 lil pianos staggered in 4ths/1 major 3rd/4th again. If a piano is 2d, then the guitar is 3d, adding a z axis to the x/y axis' of the 2d piano
    Thus, I find a beneficial strategy is after intimately learning 1 string linearly in 1 key, add the neighboring string and learning the two in that same key, then 3 string sets, ect
    But, as said previously glad to see yer strategy really helping folks! I use this thinking on cello myself

  • @njgl2010
    @njgl2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s hard for me bc I’ve played my whole life on sound. I didn’t even know the names of the chords I strummed until about 6 months after I figured it out on my own and played with someone else and they asked what chord and I said “idk….this one”! I wanna learn and understand stuff like this so bad but I swear it’s like nuclear physics. to me.

    • @BobHiltner
      @BobHiltner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You truly have serious advantages in learning this way. Hearing songs is a superpower. You can and should learn the other stuff with a little effort, but i'm not so sure the other way around is true. How easy is it to develop an ear like yours? In knowing some theory, I can narrow down the likely choices in chord progressions, but having that sharp ear is amazing for learning songs.

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BobHiltner I'm the same way- I grew up playing guitar by ear and never took any theory or anything like that- I play jazz, classical, blues, blue grass, and rock - can't shred (yet) but otherwise, I can hang in there with the best of them. That said- I haven't a clue what I'm doing. I can usually tell you the chord I'm playing but- I can't always tell you if it's augmented or some kind of sus chord or a 7th or whatever. I just know it's an A of some kind or an E of some kind- and when it comes to inversions, I can't even tell you that much sometimes because I can't tell which note is the root. That said- i can sit down and figure out a jazz song and get most of the chords right- or close enough anyway. I have no idea how either- ppl ask all the time and I have no idea what to tell them. All I know is I'll be playing around and find a chord or two, a riff or lick that's right- and once that happens the rest just seems to happen- my hands just go to the right place. I wish I could take some kind of credit for it but in all reality- I didn't do anything- I'm just along for the ride. But hey- don't let me make it sound like I'm some kind of prodigy or something- I'm absolutely not. I'm just good enough to make the average person think I should've done something- but bad enough for the ppl in the know to know better.

    • @joelalfaro9848
      @joelalfaro9848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here.

    • @majesticpbjcat7707
      @majesticpbjcat7707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm in a similar boat but probably not as "gifted" as you guys. I've just played since I was 12 and now I'm my early 40's. Started with tabs of my favorite band's songs and had a couple teachers here and there in the first couple years but what they tried to teach just went in one ear and out the other. I've had hundreds of attempts throughout the years to try to get myself into theory or even just sit down and try to learn scales or whatever. I always end up just going back to noodling and playing the same stuff I always do. Been in serious bands most of my guitar career and even went on tour a few times so I'm capable, but still really don't have any technical knowledge whatsoever. I see videos like these and end up just as lost as I was before I watched them. It's actually frustrating to be honest because I was told early on that one day "things will just click" at some point. That's never happened.

    • @natty_christ
      @natty_christ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being able to play by ear like that has its own advantages that, in my opinion, are no better or worse than knowing how to break things down into music theory. The Beatles originally learned how to play their instruments just like you. The big downside is, like you said, it’s difficult to communicate when you play with other musicians. But I promise you, there are a million reasons for other guitarists to be jealous of your skillful ear.

  • @RafaelFerreiraffael
    @RafaelFerreiraffael 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is GOLD!!! Thank you so much. I will buy your course on Mastering the Fretboard.

  • @VixCrush
    @VixCrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good stuff. I've learned this before. I guess it is good to learn the fretboard in many different ways. I have it memorized at this point anyway... Thanks for the video. There is always new stuff to learn in music.

  • @dreanof
    @dreanof ปีที่แล้ว

    Big thanks - you "broke the code" for me concerning the fretboard - and you are the ONLY resource I've encountered that explained why the two highest strings are offset 1/2 tone (easier chord fingering).

  • @patrickhlavinka6364
    @patrickhlavinka6364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm so fortunate that I learned the octave splits and fifths and thirds early on and figured this out. Everyone always wondered how i got good at lead guitar and could move all over the neck. It really is not hard.

  • @nalydvyl4015
    @nalydvyl4015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see the fretboard like this. and because I do, I understood the other parts of lesson! rewatched it a few times and I will definitely refer back to it. The (Maj,min,&dim) trick... & ...CF/BE 1/2step was explained nicely. Thanks for the lesson!

  • @yonitznkc
    @yonitznkc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great perspective change to help master the fretboard
    -WHILE PLAYING OR JUST NOODLING AROUND! 👍🏼

  • @bobblowhard8823
    @bobblowhard8823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What you're showing and saying makes perfect sense. I'm still confused, though. Perhaps because I'm relatively new at learning guitar.

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent content.

  • @thomasmcdonnell7914
    @thomasmcdonnell7914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just want to say thanks for that & I may get your fretboard lesson videos.

    • @WillsEasyGuitar
      @WillsEasyGuitar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can get them at www.gelvinguitars.com

  • @nemesis9410
    @nemesis9410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Idk, I don’t get it, this just confused me even more. What do you mean by something is “underneath” something? When you’re referencing one note’s position with respect to other ones, how’s that really different from the sequential approach that you’re calling “wrong”?

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm totally confused lol

  • @tinkerdink25
    @tinkerdink25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I've been teaching myself the banjo and this makes a lot of sense. No banjo teachers here so I'm on my own:)

  • @DriveByGuy
    @DriveByGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow dude you just taught me something new. I’m basically self taught. Never could figure this out, and never really cared. But, it only took the first watch through of your video to understand this. I’m not even all the way done yet and I feel like I’ve become infinitely smarter in regard to the guitar.
    Hope you get paid for this.

  • @TheBlackStrat502
    @TheBlackStrat502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never seen this information presented this way. Thank you!

  • @jamesmick8653
    @jamesmick8653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must have a learning disability. I'm a moderately successful guitarist, songwriter, etc. and I have no idea how this information is supposed to benefit me. I seem to be the only person who's watched this and not gotten excited, or had an "a-ha moment". What am I missing?

  • @nostromo4269
    @nostromo4269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been a guitar owner over 40 years. I’ve taken music theory. This was never explained to me. Never occurred to me. Thank you Sir. I’m gonna figure out the guitar now. 😎

  • @MikaTarkela
    @MikaTarkela 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always get lost when I try to understand the circle of fifths :( Really informative video but I think I would need some pre-knowledge because the circle of fifths part confuses me.
    The way I learnt the notes on the fretboard years ago (not the best / easiest way at all but it worked for me) was when I was a beginner and I really wanted to learn to play improvised solos and learn the notes on the fretboard.
    I learned the E natural minor scale this way: first the low E string, every note in the scale up to 12th fret. Then the next string and combine these 2 strings with improvised exercises, next string etc..
    Of course I had to use shapes to memorize it all but when I had it all in my head, the "extra notes" (notes outside e natural minor) were easy to figure out. I still needed a reference point from a note next to the one I needed to figure out but I loved this way of learning because it forced me to use my brain. Many of us have our own way of figuring these things out and mine was probably a lot of extra work but It forced me to figure out a lot of things and those things are not easily forgotten once learned.
    I just figured I should share my story for the fellow guitarists :) Will, I love your videos and they always help me learn more! Even after 25 years of playing but then again, the process is never complete.

    • @unclemick-synths
      @unclemick-synths 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The A natural minor scale is much neglected considering it's where it all started before the shift to C major (unless the ancient Greeks were pranksters). Back in the seventies I even had people telling me there was no such thing as the natural minor! 🙄

    • @andrewsmart3883
      @andrewsmart3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes every time I see circle of fifths it seems more complicated !

  • @David-DK-Kerr
    @David-DK-Kerr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you… I was confused before… now I’m thoroughly confused. I will get it but I need to watch it a few more times.

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like he's talking Swahili lol

  • @richardsmith7783
    @richardsmith7783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Buddy i been playing a guitar for 47 years! And i hove no clue what the fuck you was talking about with the pie chart lmao lol lol

  • @rookie519
    @rookie519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, thankyou. You're spot on, 17yrs self taught, limited theory knowledge, always looked linear! So good, thanks again!

  • @nylonpython
    @nylonpython 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So you eliminated the need to count by doing twice the amount of counting?
    This is more complicated than it would be to just count down the neck.

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, just yeah lol

  • @cgonzt5636
    @cgonzt5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to hear this, good timing I plan to play guitar again after almost 2 decades. Thanks 👌

  • @troyelliot9107
    @troyelliot9107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lol just confused me more. I'll probably never learn the book stuff. I'll just keep making stuff up.

  • @paulb107
    @paulb107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, why didn't any tutor explain that before. Fabulous video and simple explanation. A BIG THANK YOU 😊

  • @Pit_Lord
    @Pit_Lord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You’re correct. In my experience, 99% of guitar players see the instrument as a calculator or some kind of pattern input/output machine and have absolutely no clue what notes they’re playing at any given time. That isn’t always a bad thing, but it’s a deeply frustrating one. The real issue isn’t the simplicity or difficulty of the concept discussed here, it’s not that people are looking at the fretboard wrong, it’s that they don’t care enough to understand or pursue the knowledge that would make them the player they want to be. I really like this presentation though!

    • @jdraven7125
      @jdraven7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So because people don't know or look at a fret board enough it's cause they don't care enough? I'm happy we don't have a bunch of snobby tech bands on my scene. As soon as theory and technical flow gets into it, you start getting formatted music, aka radio rock that's lame as shit and appeals to trends. Play from the heart, it's gets better fans and reactions.

    • @datmonkey5680
      @datmonkey5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I play the guitar, I make good sounds, I don’t make notes, I don’t really care TO make notes, I play sounds together and it sounds good, as opposed to playing notes and making good notes.

    • @no-rq7fp
      @no-rq7fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly you have to be a little slow if you didn't figure this out by the time you learn what the circle of fifths is

    • @no-rq7fp
      @no-rq7fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@datmonkey5680 Music should be intuitive but that mindset is just childish and stubborn

    • @datmonkey5680
      @datmonkey5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@no-rq7fp I play guitar as a hobby and I play the music I enjoy or make riffs that sound decent, I’m not looking to learn every guitar theory or note just to make up riffs or play songs that have TH-cam tutorials for them, doesn’t make sense when it’s just a hobby and my life doesn’t revolve around guitar

  • @terryfitzpatrick5602
    @terryfitzpatrick5602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤔. That's even a better explanation of the importance of the circle of fifths. Instead of looking at this abstract circle you have brought it to the fretboard. We can see where we can use it and now understand how it relates to our fretboard. Good job.

  • @paulmcneill2666
    @paulmcneill2666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m stoned .

    • @MCRUE78
      @MCRUE78 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude! I’m stoned as shit watching the video , than I look at the comments and read your and I start laughing my ass off! 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @aldong4183
    @aldong4183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far the best presentation of the fretboard that I have seen, wish I had seen this a long time ago.
    Great presentation.

  • @EgoShredder
    @EgoShredder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It took me one day to learn and memorise the entire fretboard, and I have a terrible memory for everything else in my life, e.g. ask me what your name is and I will have forgotten, but ask me to learn a piece of music....no problem! I never needed to keep returning to learn the fretboard, once was enough. However I did use multiple techniques that include the ones Will mentions in this video. My few years self teaching myself the keyboard was a huge help, visualising the fourths, fifths etc in my mind and applying that to guitar.

  • @serinapech7593
    @serinapech7593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is going to change everything. thank you for your wisdom.

  • @yoavhanuka2772
    @yoavhanuka2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a cool and refreshing way of looking at the fret board! Thanks dude

  • @thelastgreyhawk2161
    @thelastgreyhawk2161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a very pattern oriented person which lead to me discovering this within a week of getting a guitar. So far you're the only other person I've seen who looks at it this way. I'm happy you're spreading the view to others

  • @Birdie_1991
    @Birdie_1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to practice and memorize this but I think you answered my mental block I had holding me back from understanding why things correlate.

  • @alcatmusic8442
    @alcatmusic8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve tried a couple of times to understand the circle of fifths without little or no success. You have explained it more clearly than I’ve ever seen or heard. I may take another stand at it now. Thanks!

  • @rxtp17
    @rxtp17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many video’s make promises…. This video delivered. Mind blown! Actually learned something.

  • @gwalt1985
    @gwalt1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! We make the simple things so complicated. Thanks for breaking it down like this . I just subscribed to your channel.
    Bravo 👏

  • @hansenmarc
    @hansenmarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understood the circle of fifths/fourths going across the strings, but I’d never noticed it going around a pair of strings like you showed. Thanks!!!

  • @Srhyle
    @Srhyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really a game changer! Loved it.

  • @timspencer1
    @timspencer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally brilliant. You are right. This IS a game changer!!! Never really understood this properly until now! Thank you!!

  • @ambu6478
    @ambu6478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been trying to play guitar since I was a teenager, and most of what I know was from watching someone else or picking out the notes of one of my favorite songs. I'm now 67 and recently retired. I wanted to start over and learn guitar the right way by building a foundation from the bottom. After watching your video, I now think maybe I should forget the whole thing. I'll watch this video again a few times, but it might as well be Greek to me. I guess maybe I'm too old now to start over.

    • @M_C79
      @M_C79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha, I'm in your shoes. And, yes, it's like listening to someone speak a different language. You can tell they're all excited about something, but you're never exactly certain what that is. In this case, there are too many caveats for me - the whole "forget the B-E strings, let's call them C-F, except, no, they're really B-E, so you still have to do some complex mental gymnastics" thing, for example... I prefer the way the old blues guys did it: they found a niche, and they stuck to it.

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I'm with you lol

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@M_C79 Chinese to me lol

  • @jeffpansini9612
    @jeffpansini9612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you again for explaining the circle of 5ths. I wish I had this knowledge when I was young. It still takes practice. It still boggles me how some can listen to a song and know exactly how the lead is played.

    • @t.r.backenbaum7325
      @t.r.backenbaum7325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned that by ear since otherwise it would be way too mathematical for me: You need to know how to play a scale across the whole fretboard first. Then try to play some lead to a chord progression loop/song by trial and error. Start with a random note and see if it fits, if not move and try again. If you repeat this lots of times you'll get the right note from the beginning more often until it just comes naurally to you.

  • @kangeunjang1740
    @kangeunjang1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is genius, I’ve never seen anyone explain so simply. Couple rules to remember and it applies universally! Thank you for this!

  • @canman87
    @canman87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video overall. That last bit with the specific Maj/min/dim chord application within a given scale is ESPECIALLY valuable.

  • @GreenmanWood
    @GreenmanWood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps the most important video as a musician that I've ever seen. Thank you.