It depends, I have a 7900x3d and I still don’t think wins can do it justice. Also this video use low resolutions, gow was 720p. I only do 1440, and mainly 4k. I don’t the number stay same at those higher resolutions
It goes back to at least Ryzen 5000 I know that for a fact, and since it's revisions and updates over older Zen architectures, I'd imagine it improves for older AM4 chips
Windows 11 23H2 with KB5027397? Need a test with KB5027397 specifically to understand whether it makes sense to switch from Windows 23H2 KB5027397 to Windows 11 24H2, and also tests with processors without x3d are needed.
Before you update, please watch the video again and look at the 0.1% average. The higher it is, the fewer FPS drops you'll experience, which means a better overall gaming experience.
Overall conclusion: Using 24H2 and 4090 in FullHD, there is less than a 10 percent performance boost in some titles compare to Win10. So if your GPU is weaker than 4090 and you are playing in higher than FullHD resolution, you will not see any difference. The only question I have - did you disable core isolation in Win11?
not necesarily the case, software update like this can mean better CPU and/or GPU resources depending of the games codes. What you said it's strictly for CPU side improvements and also in that case something like RayTracing and some game quality options used mora CPU resource that will also benefit with this
core isolation error after update just before winows 24h2 fully realised to the public there was a windows 23h2 update and it removed access to core isolation 🧐iran search like usual and it finds it but when i click on it here what it says" page not available ..." this has to do with the update just find it weird is it a bug or did they do this deliberately
Okey we can see win11 runs 2-5% more fps on top and specific hardware now. And nothing more. How is it gonna behave on a different confuguration, on middle price systems or chip ones ? That s still unclear.
Sateya Nadella once said he was prioritizing security the most and promised to pay a reward to the employees who would improve the security. It was clearly the priority... And the performance issues of Windows 11 24H1 (and earlier versions) was clear for the Zen 5 drama.
@@TheAmx2012 I've seen some videos where enabling it reduces always the frame rate by a lot more than the improvement seen in this video, so it must be disabled in this video. If it's enabled in this video, win11 would be always worse than win10.
I will stick with 10 after an update to 11, can’t stay with it more than 2 days! Ps: when ya switch back to 10 is it remain good condition? (like a point restoration), or better fresh install it ? (W10)
Guys this is due to CPU AMD Ryzen 7800X3D runs better on W11 24H2 , IF you are using intel CPU 14gen and below you are better off with windows 10 unless W11 new updates make it better.
It's kinda bs that we've been denied some percentage of performance for over 2 years now just cause of some software bug. Windows 11 is definitely one of the worst os in recent time for gaming.
So ive updated Drivers Updates ETC but noticed a big drop in CPU games compared to windows 10 on the latest 24h2 fresh install 12600k 6800xt 32gb ram 1tb ssd
how about problem on directx error on warzone 3? do you have a video to fix that? thanks, i tried everying in the internet/youtube... and still the problem occurs
bro i downloaded 24h2 and now i cant even launch hogwarts legecy. how are you able to play it? in reddit everyone is blaming 24h2 since it cant launch it.
The consumption of ram memory is much higher in windows 11 than what Windows 10 uses, that is, if you achieve about 5 to 10 fps, but the use of ram is lower in Windows 10. It is 1.5 GB more in version 11 24h2 than in Windows 10 , If you don't have a lot of RAM, I think Windows 10 is still a very good option, in exchange for sacrificing 5 or 10 fps, the difference is minimal and will be almost imperceptible.
Vitoria para o Windows 11. Mas eu continuo com o Windows 10 por ter as animações das janelas mais fluidas. Pra mim, isso incomoda mais no dia a dia do que alguns frames a menos nos jogos.
It will always depends on the engine, newer games won't have much impact like older games that mostly rely on the CPU, but anyway good comparison and I guess we all should go to the new windows version
Honestly I don't get all the hate for Win 11. Of course the launch condition wasnt great, however I've been using it for 2 years now and the only inconvenience I've had is the implemented RGB conteoll of peripherals, which forces me to run Logitech G in the background for my mouse because otherwise the DPI settings are f'ed. Which isn't great but can be overlooked. Otherwise its great for me and just like a more stable Win 10 with a new skin and a little different layout. I think I'm going to upgrade to 12 when its 2-3 years old, but only time will tell.
@@tommax1626 How? Is it just that you aren’t used to the new layout or is it something else? I personnaly tend to find things faster, tabs on file explorer are great, context menu is bigger, volume control is easier to access, window snap layout is well made. Not to say there aren’t things I don’t like, but I’m curious about your experience
True, i've been daring to get a snapdragon laptops soon as possible since they made optimization for x86 emulation(prism), sadly snapdragon laptops were rare in my country.
Все пишут про улучшеную производительностьв играх, но у меня с переходом на 24Н2 - уменьшился fps. У меня i5 12400f и 1650s. Есть у кого то такая же проблема?
Некоторые игры вылетают с ошибкой памяти, у меня 12400f и DDR5, 4060ti. Но после вин10 заметил, что качество картинки лучше во всем, в играх и видео. Вот думаю стоит ли 23H2 вместо 24h2.
yes ican confirme its fast i can see an improvement in file explorer speed to I feel this version sharp and light I have i5-10400f +rtx 3060 + 16 g of ddr4 ram 3200 mhz 15cl ...no ssd just an hdd 4to segate barracuda
I can't belive i live to the moment Windows 11 became better than Windows 10. There is only one thing people might now, there is feature turn on that reduce preformance in good amount and idk why it's turn by by basic on W11 when it's not on W11: Turn off the core isolation on Windows 11 and you are good to go.
It was always better... Only squares like you who are stuck in their minds that 10 is somehow better at anything, are too lazy and ignorant to try newer things.
Games :
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:09
God of War: Ragnarök - 1:08
Hogwarts Legacy - 2:03
Forza Horizon 5 - 3:04
Horizon Forbidden West - 4:07
Star Wars Outlaws - 4:57
CS2 - 5:51
Assassin's Creed Mirage - 6:50
Starfield - 8:08
Ghost of Tsushima - 9:10
System:
Windows 10
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
24H2 Default (Without any more updates, Right?)
Video driver version? Same for all tests?
You need to fill in the last two slots of your motherboard with ram. 2x16 in a 4 slot motherboard will hurt performance slightly
Thank you very much, I really wanted a video like this testing the Windows versions, your channel is very good
Seems like Windows 11 has finally caught up to Windows 10. Worth upgrading now it seems
Windows 10 getting planned obsolescence treatment
@@GoldFus1on not really, planned obsolescence would be that it just simply stoped working for new games
it was always as good or better thus this comment is false
@@AngeloLamorgese look at the older update comparison videos on this channel
It depends, I have a 7900x3d and I still don’t think wins can do it justice. Also this video use low resolutions, gow was 720p. I only do 1440, and mainly 4k. I don’t the number stay same at those higher resolutions
Does 24H2 perform better with older AM4 Ryzen CPUs as well?
It goes back to at least Ryzen 5000 I know that for a fact, and since it's revisions and updates over older Zen architectures, I'd imagine it improves for older AM4 chips
Windows 11 23H2 with KB5027397? Need a test with KB5027397 specifically to understand whether it makes sense to switch from Windows 23H2 KB5027397 to Windows 11 24H2, and also tests with processors without x3d are needed.
Afaik 24h2 still performs better than 23h2 and the optimizations because not everything was able to be patched in to 23h2, but I could be wrong.
Before you update, please watch the video again and look at the 0.1% average. The higher it is, the fewer FPS drops you'll experience, which means a better overall gaming experience.
margin of error
23H2 seems more stable on those 0.1% lows I'm probably gonna stay on it not sure
@@youssefd1024how 23 h2 is stable! 1% low is better on 24h2 and also the fps
So 24 h2 is better then 23h2
And the ISO file of W11 24H2 is considerably lighter than 22H2 and 23H2. Just like Cyberpunk 2077, maybe W11 is catching up again.
ye, the difference is greater than 1gb in iso size.
Is this update valid for any Ryzen processor? There is an increase in overall performance without being Ryzen
So, if W10 was properly updated, we would be golden.
Sad.
🤨🤨🤨🤨
Just think of how fast Windows XP would be…
"we would be golden" = 2% more fps, bro win10 already plateaud in performance terms
use Windows 10 LTSC and see how much performance you gain, lmao not even close to the shit in this video
@@pedrof3232 so what ? I just wanted the OS to be properly updated.
What about old CPU, for example i7 4770k. Does this cpu take some extra FPS on Win11 like new CPUs?
Up
Question is are those result specific to Ryzen 7 7800X3D, what abou other CPUs for example intel
it shouldnt be specifically . Should be a slight performance boost or decrease for all.
i just install win 11 4 days ago n after watching few videos i was about to resinstall win 10 but thanks to you now i dont have to
How's cs2 running on 11??
@@vatsalkapoor6379 not playing cs2
@@vatsalkapoor6379 knowing PC specs is much important than asking which game he's playing
@@BlackSmith6969 i just wanna know fps kam ho rha win 10 se ya ni
@@vatsalkapoor6379 what language are you speaking bro?
exactly the video I needed!
Overall conclusion: Using 24H2 and 4090 in FullHD, there is less than a 10 percent performance boost in some titles compare to Win10. So if your GPU is weaker than 4090 and you are playing in higher than FullHD resolution, you will not see any difference. The only question I have - did you disable core isolation in Win11?
not necesarily the case, software update like this can mean better CPU and/or GPU resources depending of the games codes. What you said it's strictly for CPU side improvements and also in that case something like RayTracing and some game quality options used mora CPU resource that will also benefit with this
AMD 5700x + rx5700 i have +3-7% on the games that I use daily I got these performances
core isolation error after update just before winows 24h2 fully realised to the public there was a windows 23h2 update and it removed access to core isolation 🧐iran search like usual and it finds it but when i click on it here what it says" page not available ..." this has to do with the update just find it weird is it a bug or did they do this deliberately
I have the issue, but I don't know if it's an issue or microshit did it on purpose.@@lilSmurf69
Can you do the same with Intel CPU?
PLEASE
MORE
MUCH NEEDED
Intel to 💩 i tego nie dostanie😂
Do you mean, crashtel cpu?
They didn’t survive the last test 😂
And for intel cpu ?
Okey we can see win11 runs 2-5% more fps on top and specific hardware now. And nothing more. How is it gonna behave on a different confuguration, on middle price systems or chip ones ? That s still unclear.
wow 24h2 works really well
ion think ur seeing the 1% Low properly
@@tk_jin3787
i clean installed win11 24h2 and regret it, i have a lot of stuttering issue specially in cs2
@@blyatroster fps or network?
The performance difference is increased due to the increased power draw. Look at the amount of power it draws the GPU
can u check older ryzen cpus like ryzen 5600?
AMD claims Zen 3 to 5 will see boosts on this windows update. 5600 its zen3
Game mod in windows activated for this test? Or off?
I just want to say a big thank you to all those people who do such tests, it's really rewarding. From the bottom of my heart, thank you!❤
Такой же тест вы сможете сделать на процессоре RYZEN 9 9950X ?
Is your windows 11 a clean install or upgrade? Does it make a difference?
Microsoft be like: Oh, we absolutely forgot about the performance for the security... Let's improve it in 24H2. Great job Microsoft...
Have you got any proof of this?
Sateya Nadella once said he was prioritizing security the most and promised to pay a reward to the employees who would improve the security. It was clearly the priority...
And the performance issues of Windows 11 24H1 (and earlier versions) was clear for the Zen 5 drama.
God of war 1% lows are dipping 34fps in windows 11 24h2 same thing happens Forza Horizon. Could it be bad windows install or bad patch.
Core Isolation ON or OFF in Win 11?
Surely off
Why pls@@lylluzzos
@@TheAmx2012 I've seen some videos where enabling it reduces always the frame rate by a lot more than the improvement seen in this video, so it must be disabled in this video. If it's enabled in this video, win11 would be always worse than win10.
Mantap. Rencananya saya mau install windows 11 24h2, kalau sudah resmi rilis
Thanks for the video. 😍
Just wondering if CS2 was tested pre or post armory update?
I will stick with 10 after an update to 11, can’t stay with it more than 2 days!
Ps: when ya switch back to 10 is it remain good condition? (like a point restoration), or better fresh install it ? (W10)
fresh install is always the best option to take if you want to take full advantage of the best condition for performance in your system.
What nvidia driver version you using to play
1% lows are what get me. Thank god
Is this updated from 23h2 to 24h2 or fresh installation of windows to 24h2 ?
Can you check performance on older games as well?
Guys this is due to CPU AMD Ryzen 7800X3D runs better on W11 24H2 , IF you are using intel CPU 14gen and below you are better off with windows 10 unless W11 new updates make it better.
It's kinda bs that we've been denied some percentage of performance for over 2 years now just cause of some software bug. Windows 11 is definitely one of the worst os in recent time for gaming.
oh no you lost 5% of your fps how are you gonna live with that
@@YapAndClap oh no, your whole w11 os experience is terrible and buggy, how are you gonna live with that
Why low 1 and low 0.1 get so much worst with w11 ?
It would be the same differencies in 4k ?
many thanks
Which version has the ryzen optimisations implemented?
Windows 11 24H2
For me now is great Windows 11 24h2😀😃👍 . good you did a comparison windows versions in games.
So ive updated Drivers Updates ETC but noticed a big drop in CPU games compared to windows 10 on the latest 24h2 fresh install
12600k 6800xt 32gb ram 1tb ssd
Is the built-in admin account in Win11 still seeing a performance edge vs. a local admin account in 24H2?
24h2 is the update that fixes that. 23h2 is the one with that bug
Intresting, can you do same for intel cpu to see if there is ans dif ?
Good afternoon, what is the option to set the mhz of the ram?
Some games, like Resident Evil 4 Remake, won't work on Windows 11 (24H2).
Hell, it's about time that Windows 11 is finally at the stage of being worth it of playing games on for better performance.
Si tengo windows 10, y actualizo a windows 11 desde el Windows update, no pasará nada? O se recomienda una instalación limpia?
Sip, instalación limpia es lo mejor. Te lo digo por experiencia, hice eso por pereza y se me jodieron varios programas y rendimiento
Instalación limpia por ley.
.
Thank you, very helpful video
What are u using for fps monitoring?
MSI afterburner .... i guess
Can you retest this with the new ryzen 9000 series ?
Where can I get 24h2?
how about problem on directx error on warzone 3? do you have a video to fix that? thanks, i tried everying in the internet/youtube... and still the problem occurs
What cpu chip?
@@socalbmwla AM4
i lost about 30-40 frames in BO6 after update. Can anyone help?
Which hard disk is faster on windows 24h2?
what about intel cpu performance comparison?
bro i downloaded 24h2 and now i cant even launch hogwarts legecy. how are you able to play it? in reddit everyone is blaming 24h2 since it cant launch it.
Maybe it's nvidia driver issue
was virtualization off on w11 ?
Is it worth doing a fresh install or upgrading using windows updates is fine ?
hags was on or off?
Was 23h2 on the KB5041587 because that's the patch for 23h2 for ryzen
Outlaws crashes on 24H2 & lots of Ubisoft games do btw
could you do 7800X3D+4090 on 4K in Winodw 11 23H2 and 24H2? Tks
My ryzen 9 9950x needs this for gaming 😂
24h2 works on Ryzen 5 5600X?
how can i know if its 24h2 and not 23h2 the one im installing?
Fun facf AMD in 24h2 there is an increase in performance as shown in the video. However, intel processors are not too different in performance
How to download the latest version? i don't see it in my windows update
Try Windows 11 installation assistant
Same her bro, maybe you can be windows insider program if you want go to w11 24h2
@@ambatublow no insider needed, 24 h2 is offically released
its on offical microsoft website
@@AlienGurke don't wanna do that manually i think i have to wait
24 h2 installed yesterday but uninstalled immediately or after a short time because there are still delays and stuttering, I'm back to 23 h2
All good, but anyone know how to trigger that update?
The consumption of ram memory is much higher in windows 11 than what Windows 10 uses, that is, if you achieve about 5 to 10 fps, but the use of ram is lower in Windows 10. It is 1.5 GB more in version 11 24h2 than in Windows 10 , If you don't have a lot of RAM, I think Windows 10 is still a very good option, in exchange for sacrificing 5 or 10 fps, the difference is minimal and will be almost imperceptible.
Vitoria para o Windows 11. Mas eu continuo com o Windows 10 por ter as animações das janelas mais fluidas. Pra mim, isso incomoda mais no dia a dia do que alguns frames a menos nos jogos.
For smoothness I prefer better lows than average fps, so 23h2 for me.
Time is come boys! I know you don't want it but.. it is what it is..
I would personally use windows 11 23h2, because windows 11 24h2 just came out a few weeks ago and it can be buggy and unstable
Win 11 24H2 Admin acc or normal ?
Normal
what's the difference? can you explain
i stay with win 10... can u versus new win 11 vs win 10
24h2. Amd optimization = enable))
What about intel?
I've and but what u mean?
@imnotfeelingd need AMD vs Intel
@Jaegernow I went back to win 10, win 11 is trash omg
Заметил мощность графического ядра больше на 1-2% на 11 24h2 fps выше, это мелочная причина
Nice😁
Is it stable? Everything good?
Yes
It will always depends on the engine, newer games won't have much impact like older games that mostly rely on the CPU, but anyway good comparison and I guess we all should go to the new windows version
Newer Games now Rely More on CPU and ram
Wukong и Alan Wake 2:Да да, процессор@@traphouserecords5493
how its feels like to play at 600+fps man (cs2)?
Tá usando 11 é pro ou home?
Honestly I don't get all the hate for Win 11.
Of course the launch condition wasnt great, however I've been using it for 2 years now and the only inconvenience I've had is the implemented RGB conteoll of peripherals, which forces me to run Logitech G in the background for my mouse because otherwise the DPI settings are f'ed. Which isn't great but can be overlooked.
Otherwise its great for me and just like a more stable Win 10 with a new skin and a little different layout.
I think I'm going to upgrade to 12 when its 2-3 years old, but only time will tell.
It feels like it is made for every laptop deviece ever and not for desktop pc, my workspeed decreased with win 11
I just hate the entire layout and style of it.
Going from windows 10 to 11 is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard.
Clearly you don't get driver corruption issues on windows 11. I had on 2 pc's and I did nothing. I just played my games and browse the web.
@@tommax1626 How? Is it just that you aren’t used to the new layout or is it something else? I personnaly tend to find things faster, tabs on file explorer are great, context menu is bigger, volume control is easier to access, window snap layout is well made. Not to say there aren’t things I don’t like, but I’m curious about your experience
True, i've been daring to get a snapdragon laptops soon as possible since they made optimization for x86 emulation(prism), sadly snapdragon laptops were rare in my country.
i would like to also try in other games cpu dependent like dota 2
Все пишут про улучшеную производительностьв играх, но у меня с переходом на 24Н2 - уменьшился fps.
У меня i5 12400f и 1650s.
Есть у кого то такая же проблема?
У меня другая проблема. некоторые игры не хотят запускаться на вин11 24х2, конкретно дед исланд 2 и фар край 5
Некоторые игры вылетают с ошибкой памяти, у меня 12400f и DDR5, 4060ti. Но после вин10 заметил, что качество картинки лучше во всем, в играх и видео. Вот думаю стоит ли 23H2 вместо 24h2.
It is worth getting more fps even if sometimes you are insignificant just for the sake of updating
Ну это на примере 4090, а если какая нибудь 2060 на 22h2 работает на 100% в тяжелой игре, то и на 24h2 она будет работать на 100%
Dang no wonder HumanitZ on 24H2 running smoother than windows 10 22H2
Nice test
Windows 10 es el mejor sistema actualmente para juegos. Anteriormente era el windows 7 y xp.
We need video automatic super resolution on vs off.
yes ican confirme its fast i can see an improvement in file explorer speed to I feel this version sharp and light I have i5-10400f +rtx 3060 + 16 g of ddr4 ram 3200 mhz 15cl ...no ssd just an hdd 4to segate barracuda
How does it get more fps if it have more bloat ware
god damn it fine ill swallow my pride upgrade from windows 10
I can't belive i live to the moment Windows 11 became better than Windows 10. There is only one thing people might now, there is feature turn on that reduce preformance in good amount and idk why it's turn by by basic on W11 when it's not on W11:
Turn off the core isolation on Windows 11 and you are good to go.
It was always better... Only squares like you who are stuck in their minds that 10 is somehow better at anything, are too lazy and ignorant to try newer things.
Well done.
Ty
alot of performance increases
Can u test Microsoft flight sim 2020 please
Okey, ahí te voy Windows 11, adiós Windows 10 😢
Terminaras volviendo yo lo hice en rendimiento es similar pero en multitarea y estabilidad general del sistema win10 esta muy por encima
Que tal les fue?
@@julius6916 si volví 😂😂😂😂
@@tutostoplay jajajaja CRACK
@@julius6916 coincido, sigue siendo horrible el win 11 👎🤢