Compairing 5 sets of Jazz cymbals

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
  • Here you can see and hear me plaing 5 different sets of Jazz cymbals.
    Each one consists of 2 Ride cymbals and a pair of hihats and has been put together with a certain "theme" in mind.
    First therealways is a recording of the cymbals seperately, and then I´m playing them along to a part of the song "The Al Trane", written by John Riley and taken from his book "the art of Bop drumming".
    The recording has been done with two overheads and one bassdrum microphone and I´ve not used any effects or other sound treatement to capture the sounds of the cymbals as naturally as possible. Also all the levels (including the play alongs´) are exaxtly the same for each set of cymbals. Therefore you can not only compair their sounds, but also their volume. I´ve used the same sticks all the time and tried to play with the same intensity.
    Hope you like it...

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  • @agguth7
    @agguth7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Finally someone who can play cymbals demoing cymbals. You'd think it would be more common but apparently not. You made all of those cymbals sound good. Each one. That sound lab prototype was beautiful. Thanks for this.

    • @Big_C_4205
      @Big_C_4205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hate the ones where they are like “oh I’m gonna play the bell more than anything” like dude I hate the bell

  • @nram3930
    @nram3930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    1."The Quiet Set":
    Playing alone - 0:14
    With a backing track - 0:54
    2."The Modern Ks":
    Playing alone - 3:15
    With a backing Track - 4:07
    3."The Old Ks":
    Playing alone - 6:30
    With a backing track - 7:13
    4."The Motian Set":
    Playing alone - 9:32
    With a backing Track - 10:20
    5."The Dark Set":
    Plating alone - 12:40
    With a backing track - 13:21

    • @nram3930
      @nram3930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The modern Ks were my personal favorite, I really dig the renaissance 22 ride, and that prototype has a great sort of trashy vibe - not to mention that I am a fan of dry dirty hats. The Hollow Block Stamp 20 ride on the Motian set was really nice as well.
      Great playing and feel as well.

    • @renatopestana9526
      @renatopestana9526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nram3930 That prototype actually sounds a lot like Bill Stewart's dry complex rides, love it

  • @alexulrich2393
    @alexulrich2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Really helpful comparison, and nice drumming! 🥁 Hard to pick my favorite, but I think the Quiet Set paired together really well.

  • @christophecoste8471
    @christophecoste8471 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this is insanely good ....the concept, your playing. thank you mate👍

  • @drumcoachnyc
    @drumcoachnyc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 18" old Stamp sounds AMAZING!

  • @powbobs
    @powbobs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quiet set sounds great.
    Hard to find those hats though.
    I have the 22” K Con REN on the right.
    A 20” K Con medium thin low on the left.
    And 14” A Avedis hi hats.
    I love it.
    I sometimes use a 20” light flat ride on the left.

  • @BrendrumJones
    @BrendrumJones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, lovely playing too, thanks for that

  • @ben100976
    @ben100976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really nice demo. Loves the pairing you’ve done. Great work. Thanks !

  • @cookq
    @cookq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoyed the playing and the presentation. Great drummer w/ great time and chops. And these cymbal sets all sound good and provide a tonal palette from wet to dry. What everyone tunes in for is the vintage, unobtanium stuff. The third set - old k's with johan hats. Most of the rest of the stuff is in a store somewhere. But everybody's chasing THAT tone. You have two KILLER vintage cymbals but they are totally different. The 18 OS is darkly bright and crisp without a lot of wash, and the 22 NS with the rivets is holy grail jazz ride sound with good medium bright attack and just a hint of trash followed by the rivet wash reverb. They are both amazing, but I'm not sure the 18 complements the 22 like it would some other rides in your collection. Don't get me wrong, the 18 might be the best, most valuable cymbal in your collection. It probably is. Your Zildjian 20 hollow block stamp from set 4 and your 18 OS from set 3 would be interesting to swap between sets and compare. Some amazing cymbals throughout. Congrats mate

  • @StefanVanroy-zq2tm
    @StefanVanroy-zq2tm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thx for expressing 'articulation'.
    Don.t ever given up you.re great as a univdrummer

  • @chinatype
    @chinatype 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful playing 😊. I have the 20” left side ride such a great cymbal and compliments the other. Just about to take delivery of a 22” K Constantinople Renaissance

  • @christophevignals7867
    @christophevignals7867 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you, one of the best video I have seen on cymbals... very Nice research …the sound of the K ns is magnificent !

  • @elfurrohetero3518
    @elfurrohetero3518 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourit set was the old Ks and the new Ks

  • @t.j.schaff2478
    @t.j.schaff2478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude you have a great ride feel.

  • @margovallen
    @margovallen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just received a K Ride.. and a K Custom Left Side Ride. Both sound great.

  • @yarpyarp85
    @yarpyarp85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude awesome playing!!!

  • @rogerferronato6876
    @rogerferronato6876 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 1° end 4° sets... ... wonderfol ...

  • @metothemoon1227
    @metothemoon1227 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just perfect 👏 Thanks for this. ;)

  • @ariwibowom1984
    @ariwibowom1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 20" light cons, love the buttery sound. I have also a 19" sabian hh crash that have a similar but clearer tone compare to the cons.

  • @DiamondLifer
    @DiamondLifer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That 22’ K Con Renaissance is it. ❤️

  • @Vromopoutanos01
    @Vromopoutanos01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great playing!

  • @patrickwoods2583
    @patrickwoods2583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first group sounded the best, at least for those songs.

  • @luiszuluaga6575
    @luiszuluaga6575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice touch!

  • @m47t41
    @m47t41 ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful

  • @hawkrider88
    @hawkrider88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful...thanks!

  • @Limbic1000
    @Limbic1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great 👌 thank youuu

  • @jazzdrumguy5044
    @jazzdrumguy5044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, that old 22" K!

  • @gustavoestevam5263
    @gustavoestevam5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quiet set

  • @benslooking4coolstuff
    @benslooking4coolstuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that K con 22" Renny ride. just add some 14" new beat hi hat

  • @HardbatProductions
    @HardbatProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not usually a fan of A's, but that hollow block is sweet.

  • @russellesimonetta9071
    @russellesimonetta9071 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uhh I,ve always preferred A,s for even Jazz. The K types are very washy but A,s are shimmer.

  • @ikepapalua
    @ikepapalua 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I sold my 22" Sound Creation Dark Ride in the early 90s. What an idiot

  • @aristotle5698
    @aristotle5698 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you recommend the K Dark medium as a good bebop ride? I like all of them but I’m favoring that one in particular, in this instance especially, scenarios can change so I’m wondering if it’ll fit all the scenarios

  • @ahsyiam
    @ahsyiam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    waiting for your upload!!

  • @Twoholesofman
    @Twoholesofman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the Modern Ks the best.

  • @phenylmusic
    @phenylmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    god damn k con light is so buttery i will nibble my fingers off

  • @ddxdxdxdx
    @ddxdxdxdx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    did you know there is no cymbal emoji available, while there IS a trumpet emoji 🎺

  • @DevaPermanaDrums
    @DevaPermanaDrums 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful video... what Vater sticks are you using?

    • @khm5369
      @khm5369  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BeBop 550s

  • @val_val_
    @val_val_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The 22" K Ns is just perfect. How heavy is it?
    Do you want to sell it?

  • @13THEMAS
    @13THEMAS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was awesome! May I ask what what is the snare here?

    • @khm5369
      @khm5369  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That´s a 14x6,5 Ludwig Hammered Bronze

  • @_jsse
    @_jsse ปีที่แล้ว

    what type of drum set is that? love the setup

  • @brodmitkase
    @brodmitkase 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice playing. What is the tune?

  • @boomerguy9935
    @boomerguy9935 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The volume of the music overpowered the sound of the cymbals. It was hard for me to compare them.

  • @ahchzamariza8039
    @ahchzamariza8039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What type of drums sticks do you have

    • @ben_co8558
      @ben_co8558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vater BeBop 550 hickory

    • @ahchzamariza8039
      @ahchzamariza8039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vater BeBop 550 hickory

    • @ben_co8558
      @ben_co8558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahchzamariza8039 indeed

  • @user-yn8ee1gh9b
    @user-yn8ee1gh9b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which snare is this?

  • @readwritejazz3483
    @readwritejazz3483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! What's the weight on the 20" hollow block? Is it for sale?

  • @ddxdxdxdx
    @ddxdxdxdx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did you know cymbals are called 'bekkens' in Dutch 🇳🇱

  • @simaojoseph
    @simaojoseph ปีที่แล้ว

    Motian, like in Paul Motian?

    • @daviewavie112
      @daviewavie112 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever find out what motian means?

    • @richandglorious
      @richandglorious ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviewavie112 yep, paul motian

  • @xbeast666
    @xbeast666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does that 20k custom sounds like it sizzles, is it just me

    • @khm5369
      @khm5369  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Might be because the k custom left side ride comes with 3 factory installed rivets ;)

    • @drumyogi9281
      @drumyogi9281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does Zildjian still make cymbals with rivets?

    • @TheOssia
      @TheOssia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@khm5369 - What are the sizes of those 4 drums? (Heads & shell depth). And, what sticks are those? Thanks!