Olufemi Yusuf Haitian voodoo is different though similar to traditional African vodoun. Voodoo, Santeria, and New Orleans voodoo are branches from the same tree. She’s not wrong. You are misinterpreting what she’s saying
Olufemi Yusuf that’s what I just said. They are all branches stemming from the same tree. Distinct in their beliefs and practices but also similar in those same things. They aren’t the same. One comes from the other. It’s like comparing Christians and Catholics. Similar beliefs. Similar practices. Belief in the same god. But still two different religions.
She still seeking. Our Black Americans might not get it right all the time, but our Soul is seeking Truth and that’s what matters. Keep going sis, you will find. I too am Soul Seeking and Journey Spiriting. The Ancestors, The Deities, The Gods and Goddesses, The Ifa, Orisha have always been with us and now we are awakening.
What about the Vodun Lwa has been with us even though the trans Atlantic slave trade whom was also active in the Revolution especially in the Americas , so take your time not everything is about the Orisha
Aboru boye my dear sister. I respect your boldness and knowledge. I am an IFA devote and i respect others faith, while many people look down and judge me because of my own faith. You know something? I don't care about them, because many of them do come to me for help and food. I believe and respect their own faith and bible said "Thou shall not judge" can you imagine people with little or no knowledge of their own religion condemning others.May God Almighty God open our eyes to see the truth and know what is right. If you are a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist and any thing else, i will respect you and respect your faith, dont look down on me.
Alfread Thamm You could never be looked down upon as this is a part of your journey and respected..By helping people, this is a part of your humanity, not to be confused with religion...I respect the IFA traditions and all traditions stemming seeds from the Motherland, however in this sensitive time that Blacks face in America, we need to be using the energies in our back door that yielded proven results to protect and nourish ourselves...
I agree. People must remember that Yurobaland was huge. Benin/Togo were Voudon and there cousins Ifa, and that is a reason for so many similarities of the two religions. In the Diaspora, many names were created out of survival. Some of us did not know about Orishas, but are aware of other practices that are not apart of Voudun or Ifa. Not all Creoles from Louisiana are of Haitian blood. My family are not Haitian. Cool video 😎
@@AuthorLHollingsworth Haitian Vodou is much darker than all that. I think only Palo mayombe compares 😈. The Haitian ancestors was killing slave masters they on a different kind of time.
i have a feeling haitian voodoo might be a critically underestimated part of our story here in america. a largely untold part of our story being here that could have the power to tie together whatever loose ends remain and potholes that remain in the story we pen as ours. pray these words fall not on deaf EARS.
I'm confused because I thought Africans were shipped to Haiti. They brought their "religion" with them. Wouldn't that mean they brought Ifa with them to Haiti?
n M thats not true benin were vodun started practices ifa, ifa is also practiced in ghana, Fa is also practiced in congo, Southafrica all throughout Africa they practice FA it might no be the yoruba way but multiple people practice FA its only for one group of people
The sister is correct Haitian Vodou is the correct leader. Haitian Vodou created a nation , no other modern vodou system can prove that they created a nation. Haitian Vodou is King and Queen!
You cannot speak about ifa without being an initiate. My grandmother was an ifa priestess and will not talk much about it, how could you know about it?
I agree. I am married to my husband From the Yoruba tribe in Oya Africa. Now initiated myself, I can’t speak on the secrets but babbbbygirl, you’re very much mounted.. I will say this, IFA is a spirit himself, I will say that voodoo comes from Benin 🇧🇯 Africa, back to mounted I will give you this ... when being initiated in Ogun you’re actually shoot with a gun with real bullets ... when mounted by Ogun and protected nothing can kill you .... until you go to Africa and study 📖 I mean really know your stuff you cannot speak about IFA. Yoruba is way more powerful due to the Orisa being born from god. LWA is not born from good. Its born of other spirits... All systems come from its mother Benin 🇧🇯 Africa. Voodoo are the spirits of the dead 💀 Lwa / ... Voodoo isn’t a complex system. IFA is very Complex, Supernatural, Mysteries that one Human will never understand even if you’re a high priest at 80yrs old. IFA is always teaching you . ... again, Voodoo comes from Benin 🇧🇯 it’s birth is from its mother land later on evolved to what is known as voodoo due to slaves settling in different parts in the world .. mostly the Caribbean & in the Southern states . I respect ✊ your opinion I respect ✊ the system Voodoo. I’m very familiar with Erzulie dantor. Powerful Lwa / but another side of Oya. Oya is the mother of the dead / Sango is the King of Lwa, he was born from the Benin 🇧🇯 king dome.. later crossed over to Yoruba by Osun. His temperament was violent and wanted to kill Osun Is the only Orisa that can calm him .... he later married Osun.... I say this to say that if you know the Orisa they can be very dangerous & known for killing as well, Sango & Ogun being two of them.... They can also bless you very much as well .... Also, babygirl they dooooooooo not come to you in dream form ohhhhh that is very fake & false., Sango has shown himself to my husband twice in his life in Africa., He is nothing of what is painted on candles, and Alters, very Strong 💪🏽 Orisa very dangerous!! I myself have never seen him .. but I was blessed to be mounted by Oya!! It was a feeling that will always be in my soul deep in my heat I will die with having the grace to be mounted by OYA!! Ase!!!
Jan’s I love and respect the knowledge you are sharing . YES a part of voodoo ( vodun) comes from the spirits of the dead . This is not a bad thing . This is actually the best thing in voodoo and what makes it as equal as ifa ( note: I didn’t say more powerful because there is no ego among angels)what is the dead? Your ancestors , the ones who made a path , a way a continuum of your existence and gave you LIFE. From the silence of death was born the noise of life and love . Voodoo comes from God as well . Who created life and death? :) WE LOVE AND WE HATE. But our motto, lifestyle and goal on this earth is to spread HARMONY ( acceptance of all and in all sincerity) but depending on how you come at us , you will be dealt with. This is why we always greet each other by “ONE RESPE” Honor and Respect when we interact with anyone
Possession is an important part of most West African derived religions. In fact, the concept comes from Orisha worshipers. Possession is not exclusive to voodoo. It owes the practice to traditions like Ifa. The voodoo deities are essentially the orisha adapted to the needs and history of the Haitian people. Much like Cuban Santeria. I hope you are aware of this but the Orisha come from the Ifa tradition of West Africa and Yoruba land. Also, though one can draw connections between the Egyptian pantheon and Loa or Orisha, it does not mean they are derived from them. Now, in the case of traditions like voodoo where syncretism plays a major role in its practice and manifestation, it's not wrong to incorporate a variety of symbols from other systems and faiths, but the Loa and Orisha ARE NOT those deities. The Loa and Orisha have very terrestrial origins and were elevated (I realize this is somewhat overly simplified, but I'll keep it like this for the sake of brevity.) The Egyptian deities did not begin as mortal humans. They are not the same.
gradientsea Amen hahaha Ase waa modupe for this comment. Theres levels to this. I feel like Vodou is like Mixed Martial arts. I respect and Love it.....BUT people who arent DEEP into each tradition and DONT know the levels of power in each should really understand that they LACK a lot of necessary information that makes that system just as powerful as any other, IF each is practice correctly. Its not soo Much the system BUT the PERSON using the system and mastering it!
Your first and second sentences don't really add up. Possession is a common practice in almost all African spiritual practices including Òrìsà...but how does that lead to the conclusion that the concept itself originated from Òrìsà devotees? Also, Haitian Voudun does indeed recognize Yoruba Orisas, but also many other dieties from many different regions/people's/cultures of Africa including Dahomey, Mande, Kongo, Igbo etc. etc.
The word "Vodun" itself comes from the Fon and Ewe people of Dahomey/Benin Republic/Togo... Not from Yorubaland at all. Although the concepts of Vodun and Òrìṣà are very similar... If you translate the word "Òrìsà" from Yoruba to Fon, the best option would probably be "Vodun" and if you translate the word "Vodun" from Ewe to Yoruba the best option would probably be "Òrìsà", and if you translate either into Haitian Creole they would call them "lwa", however Yoruba derived lwa in Haitian Voudun are called "Nago" and you also have many different categories of Lwa such as gede and petwo etc.
Also, some Òrìṣà had terrestrial origins, but definitely no all. Èṣù, Ògún, Ọbàtálá etc. are all irúnmolè who are believed to have existed before humans and ancestors, even before the earth as we know it was created...
Great information. Thanks for this. I'm just beginning spiritual journey and some times the information out there can be conflicting. You're doing a WONDERFUL job.
I like this video because it is the only one of its kind so far. Unfortunately I feel like Ifa is kind of severely misrepresented in this video which is unfortunate. Yemoja followed her children across the sea to the Americas. She made storms to stop the ships that were stealing her children to no avail. Yemoja would never abandon her children for she is the mother of all. If she came the rest of the family came with her and they are just as present here in the Americas as the Lwa. -Respectfully Ra.
The Orisha is the Lwa the culture came to the Fons Dahomey Benin and after it was taught to the Yoruba so take your time and give credit where credit is due
My mother was practicing voodoo before she passed away without mentioning it and I realized it when I took a piece of peppermint candy from the candy dish on her dresser and ate it, she had a fit, she was very upset with me, but I did not know what I did wrong. I did not know that she had a mini alter on her dresser. I apologized to her, but she kept saying damn! damn!, I did not want you to eat that candy. I could not understand why she was so secretive with it.
Peace, wow you could have really unknowingly caused problems for yourself as well as your family. The candy was probably for an alter made for Papa legba as he is known to love small sweets like candies! 🍬. Do a little research on Papa Legba ☠ ⚰
There will be no harm to you ever when you operate in the will of God, and purposed harm has been "practised" or orchestrated without your knowing. It's like the snake that bit Paul the transformed Saul. Another point I would like to make is that all crafts used by ANY alchemist, does NOT cause harm to anyone. All pain is SELF inflicted. You mother was in anguish due to the fact that the harm she meant to cause with that candy will NEVER work in the sense she means if she means to HARM people. She will always ONLY inflict that pain on herself unless she has been put in imbalance due to a direct inflicted hurt to her integrity by an outside energy. Period. God protects his own(PURE hearts) and has dominion over ALL sources of energy in existence. Always have. Always will. Thanks for sharing. ❤🕵️♀️🖤😏
IFA embodies philosophy, history, science, medicine, poetry, etc. It's purpose is to help human achieve balance and order in their daily lives. Only a minuscule amount of that oral knowledge is known to the generality of the people, aside from that held by direct custodians of that body of knowledge in Yorubaland and other parts of West Africa who continously pass it from one generation to the other.
I needed to see this. I was being told info about IFA but there was a lot of restrictions, in the cards, shells, my spirit and even a close friend had given me input. I had a dream that pretty much sad no and this video popped up too
toolite100 You must be of bloodline inheritance for them to step in(mount) you..However to show your respects, you are entitled to do and this brings great protection and reward by receiving blissings from the ancestors
Hathor Akunaten yes Ive witnessed a healing. I wasn't allowed to hear what was spoken to the individual but I witnessed the energy healing the person's body. How they burst into sweat their body got so hot. The Holy Ghost doesn't play. I am thankful that a power greater wants to use me.
Hetep, very interesting. Although we all have i opinions i like how you broke things down. It will enlighten many as it did for me. Ifa our communication with mysteries of the universe, how it is pronounced, how you pronounced it, i dug it. I was especially interested in your perspective on louisiana creole people. Since although not raised by them, but my paternal grandfather was a jet black creole that spoke no english from Lake Charles outer regions. Ayibobo
SPEAK! I love you. Thank you so much for clarifying. You are so....sooo....ugh I dont know how to explain it but you have such an empowering and familial essence. Thank you for the guiding wisdom.
wow!!!!!! why you all making this out to sound like a competition . all came from the mother land, so my thing is there are many parts to a human body. at the end of the day they all are linked and work hand in hand. i love you miss diva and you keep up with you linage. respect , i'm a child of ifa from the caribbean . it's all good.
I enjoy her enthusiasm, but I hope that her knowledge base has increased since this video. Because… where did the Haitians come from.. Africa and then like so our brothers and sisters stolen from our mother land to with them bits and pieces of African spirituality IFA and this is his we have even learned of it today. This has n the greatest gift that our ancestors have given us. Knowledge of who we are thought true understanding of WHO’s we are!! E are a great powerful people!!!! Peace and blessings always to you my sister!!!
This was a great video and you said some real stuff! For people in the comments, first realize that what you mean by Ifa may not be what another person means. It’s hard to even define it. What is Ifa? The name of (a) Yoruba religion/spirituality revolving around venerating the orishas? A Yoruba divination system? The name of a particular god behind said divination system? I’ve heard all three and more perspective argued for. It’s really hard to definite many things within African spirituality because of the nature of the diaspora - concepts have changed and evolved over time and over seas. Depending on the tradition you’re approaching a topic from, one thing can mean something completely different (e.g. are Legba, Elegua, and Eshu the same spirits or different? I’ve heard a number of valid approaches. Where you land should be a matter of discernment and respect for tradition, but it will always come down to your subjective perspective built from experience). Let’s have grace for one another and remember that we’re all in this diaspora together, and at the end of the day we are all seeking the same gnosis. Love ✊🏽
Great video. Thanks for the info as the concept and paths to Voodoo can be very confusing to sort out. Does Haitian Voodoo have anything like IFA? From my understanding in the Lukumi/Ocha IFA works hand in hand with Orisha Priest to help people find balance in their life and get to a better place in life. Orisha Priest are mounted and the Babalawo have power that the Orisha Priest don't have. You have to go to both at some point for different reasons. Now, with that said, sounds like Haitian Voodoo has transformed into it's own spirituality and like other African Spiritualities involving Voodoo and/or IFA spirituality/practices migrated into America and even transformed some more. Which would leave more options for people in America to work with in reconnecting and walking the path of those Ancestors. I am curious if IFA in Africa is a stand alone practice or is there Orisha Priest that get mounted? Also the different classes or families of Spirits that are hot or cold can all act fast or slow as they see fit. I don't see fast as more power, but it sure is nice to get shit done when you need it too. I wish I had these teachers for my Native American Ancestry so while a little confusing at least the gatekeepers and keepers of wisdom are here to seek with a little more ease and they are the key to keeping any spiritual system working correctly and to keep going. Thanks for pointing out that there are differences and it would be wise to not confuse them. Even with my limited knowledge....to me they are so obviously very different in many regards regardless of their common roots. Wado and Blessings.
rocky sanders Lol IFA IS AFA (Vodu) and vice-versa. People don’t really know the history behind how these aspects are connected so, they “create” a history. IFA priests of Benin, Togo and Ghana are called AFA/AFAVI a.k.a BOKOR/Bokonor. Yoruba is not the foundation of IFA/AFA; you can literally go anywhere within the vicinity’s between those countries and learn the same EXACT principles to be a diviner. Peace.
Well put. Haitian Vodou (and Dominican Vudú; Cuban Vodú; Brazilian Vodum; and Louisiana Voodoo.) comes from West African Vodun (Benin, and southern and central Togo; as well in Ghana, and Nigeria) where some of our ancestors came from AND has aspects of the Yoruba faith (Southwestern Nigeria and the adjoining parts of Benin and Togo, commonly known as Yorubaland. Yoruba religion is formed of diverse traditions. It has influenced a host of thriving traditions such as Santería, Umbanda, Trinidad Orisha, and Candomblé). Not to mention influences from Catholicism.
Haitian Vodu is Ewe Vodu from West Africa, mainly Benin, Togo and Ghana. Ifa and Afa/Fa is basically the same, whereas the Orishas operate Ifa and Vodu operates Fa.
Ifa came to the Americas as well through Cuba with Santería and later Lukumi as well as the rest of the Caribbean then brought to the Americas. Let's not forget it's influence in Brazil. People are also mounted in Ifa. I don't think you should be doing a comparison. You're biased and you're not knowledgeable enough in Ifa. That being said, I have respect for all ancestor/African based versions.
I’ve listened to you many times. i’m Haitian and I’m very interested in voodoo. Do I need to become initiated?I have done a lot of research, but I think despite of all the knowledge that I have regarding voodoo, feel like there’s something missing.
Sorry,! You are Harthor Akunaten! You are the one I just emailed. I noticed that you simply liked my comment, but you didn’t answer my question of needing to be initiated. Is that something you help people with or do I need to go to someone else?
Hello, sister it's good that you are dispeling stereotypes about African religions. I have some videos about African tribes, famous Africans in Latin America and Black American history.
Hes a babalawo. A lot of these celebrities are initiated into ATR. To name a few forest Whitaker, jay z, beyonce, jennifer lopez, marc Anthony, pitbull, celia cruz, Cameron diaz, lisa marie Presley, desi arnaz, hector lavoe, Tito Puente. The list goes on and on
Great video. Very informative, especially for someone like myself that is being lead to something other than Christanity. Plus.. your head wrap is super cute!
Don't know where to start because I'm new to all of this, so please forgive me if I sound ignorant. What is the difference between Orisha and IFA? and the difference between Palo Mayombe and Voodoo?
David Linton . Not necessarily. I am Creole with New Orleans & Opelousas Louisiana St Landry Parish origins . I live in Prairie Laurent near Leonville . I am Hoodoo Priestess & Vodou practitioner. I am owner of Creole Conjure Rootwork. I am a genealogist as well. Not all Louisiana Creoles have Haitian descent. Just some. I am one. I can tell you what families came from Haiti.
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How can you say IFA is a small anything when IFA is the system of the universe.
She means ifa is a small aspect of what voodoo is. Voodoo has its roots in ifa but also in Native American religion and others.
Ifa and voodoo are two different religions
Ibri Obeah she is right
Olufemi Yusuf Haitian voodoo is different though similar to traditional African vodoun. Voodoo, Santeria, and New Orleans voodoo are branches from the same tree.
She’s not wrong. You are misinterpreting what she’s saying
Olufemi Yusuf that’s what I just said. They are all branches stemming from the same tree. Distinct in their beliefs and practices but also similar in those same things. They aren’t the same. One comes from the other. It’s like comparing Christians and Catholics. Similar beliefs. Similar practices. Belief in the same god. But still two different religions.
She still seeking. Our Black Americans might not get it right all the time, but our Soul is seeking Truth and that’s what matters. Keep going sis, you will find. I too am Soul Seeking and Journey Spiriting. The Ancestors, The Deities, The Gods and Goddesses, The Ifa, Orisha have always been with us and now we are awakening.
What about the Vodun Lwa has been with us even though the trans Atlantic slave trade whom was also active in the Revolution especially in the Americas , so take your time not everything is about the Orisha
In Ifa, orisha also can mount initiaties. Also there are other ways the Orisa speak besides dreams.
Aboru boye my dear sister. I respect your boldness and knowledge. I am an IFA devote and i respect others faith, while many people look down and judge me because of my own faith. You know something? I don't care about them, because many of them do come to me for help and food. I believe and respect their own faith and bible said "Thou shall not judge" can you imagine people with little or no knowledge of their own religion condemning others.May God Almighty God open our eyes to see the truth and know what is right. If you are a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist and any thing else, i will respect you and respect your faith, dont look down on me.
Alfread Thamm You could never be looked down upon as this is a part of your journey and respected..By helping people, this is a part of your humanity, not to be confused with religion...I respect the IFA traditions and all traditions stemming seeds from the Motherland, however in this sensitive time that Blacks face in America, we need to be using the energies in our back door that yielded proven results to protect and nourish ourselves...
Alfread Thamm Well said!
Also Ifa Is part of Vodun ( the root of Voodoo) in the form of Afa
Asa Maurer voudou is of Ifa known as Fa in Dahomey current day republique du Benin.
Exactly
Yes.
I agree. People must remember that Yurobaland was huge. Benin/Togo were Voudon and there cousins Ifa, and that is a reason for so many similarities of the two religions. In the Diaspora, many names were created out of survival. Some of us did not know about Orishas, but are aware of other practices that are not apart of Voudun or Ifa. Not all Creoles from Louisiana are of Haitian blood. My family are not Haitian. Cool video 😎
@@AuthorLHollingsworth Haitian Vodou is much darker than all that. I think only Palo mayombe compares 😈. The Haitian ancestors was killing slave masters they on a different kind of time.
i have a feeling haitian voodoo might be a critically underestimated part of our story here in america. a largely untold part of our story being here that could have the power to tie together whatever loose ends remain and potholes that remain in the story we pen as ours. pray these words fall not on deaf EARS.
Auben Quinama I hear you my friend!
Real using it all together
Haiti is so ignored, it's sad. People only talk about the Haitian revolution
You'd think with all this voodoo going on, that these ppl would use it to uplift the ppl😒 Instead, uses it for useless material crap.
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the mounting happens in Ocha as well. At different tambors and when one makes asiento.
Ase -- since I am initiated to Ifa and Orisa -- there is mounting indeed -- Oshun mounts her children etc.
I'm confused because I thought Africans were shipped to Haiti. They brought their "religion" with them. Wouldn't that mean they brought Ifa with them to Haiti?
MsChmpnprzr no because ifa is tribe specific. So if that tribe didn’t go there, then ifa didn’t go there
n M thats not true benin were vodun started practices ifa, ifa is also practiced in ghana, Fa is also practiced in congo, Southafrica all throughout Africa they practice FA it might no be the yoruba way but multiple people practice FA its only for one group of people
Yes many Yoruba tribesmen were brought to Haiti they definitely brought ifa there
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What things are you talking, thats sp stupid you have Idea
Ifá was syncretically infused into Roman Catholicism and that’s how Vodun was created.
The sister is correct Haitian Vodou is the correct leader. Haitian Vodou created a nation , no other modern vodou system can prove that they created a nation. Haitian Vodou is King and Queen!
Reese Goldess nothing is "correct"
You connect where you connect, no?
Thank you
A nation now in shambles, isn't that a shame
You cannot speak about ifa without being an initiate. My grandmother was an ifa priestess and will not talk much about it, how could you know about it?
@ifeness24 is she still alive?
I agree. I am married to my husband From the Yoruba tribe in Oya Africa. Now initiated myself, I can’t speak on the secrets but babbbbygirl, you’re very much mounted.. I will say this, IFA is a spirit himself, I will say that voodoo comes from Benin 🇧🇯 Africa, back to mounted I will give you this ... when being initiated in Ogun you’re actually shoot with a gun with real bullets ... when mounted by Ogun and protected nothing can kill you .... until you go to Africa and study 📖 I mean really know your stuff you cannot speak about IFA. Yoruba is way more powerful due to the Orisa being born from god. LWA is not born from good. Its born of other spirits... All systems come from its mother Benin 🇧🇯 Africa. Voodoo are the spirits of the dead 💀 Lwa / ... Voodoo isn’t a complex system. IFA is very Complex, Supernatural, Mysteries that one Human will never understand even if you’re a high priest at 80yrs old. IFA is always teaching you . ... again, Voodoo comes from Benin 🇧🇯 it’s birth is from its mother land later on evolved to what is known as voodoo due to slaves settling in different parts in the world .. mostly the Caribbean & in the Southern states . I respect ✊ your opinion I respect ✊ the system Voodoo. I’m very familiar with Erzulie dantor. Powerful Lwa / but another side of Oya. Oya is the mother of the dead / Sango is the King of Lwa, he was born from the Benin 🇧🇯 king dome.. later crossed over to Yoruba by Osun. His temperament was violent and wanted to kill Osun Is the only Orisa that can calm him .... he later married Osun.... I say this to say that if you know the Orisa they can be very dangerous & known for killing as well, Sango & Ogun being two of them.... They can also bless you very much as well .... Also, babygirl they dooooooooo not come to you in dream form ohhhhh that is very fake & false., Sango has shown himself to my husband twice in his life in Africa., He is nothing of what is painted on candles, and Alters, very Strong 💪🏽 Orisa very dangerous!! I myself have never seen him .. but I was blessed to be mounted by Oya!! It was a feeling that will always be in my soul deep in my heat I will die with having the grace to be mounted by OYA!! Ase!!!
Most of the Orisa was born from God. But some did come from the Benin kingdom.. later on becoming Orisa!! So some are very dangerous..
Jan’s I love and respect the knowledge you are sharing . YES a part of voodoo ( vodun) comes from the spirits of the dead . This is not a bad thing . This is actually the best thing in voodoo and what makes it as equal as ifa ( note: I didn’t say more powerful because there is no ego among angels)what is the dead? Your ancestors , the ones who made a path , a way a continuum of your existence and gave you LIFE. From the silence of death was born the noise of life and love . Voodoo comes from God as well . Who created life and death? :) WE LOVE AND WE HATE. But our motto, lifestyle and goal on this earth is to spread HARMONY ( acceptance of all and in all sincerity) but depending on how you come at us , you will be dealt with. This is why we always greet each other by “ONE RESPE” Honor and Respect when we interact with anyone
That is the best explanation I've read here.
Possession is an important part of most West African derived religions. In fact, the concept comes from Orisha worshipers. Possession is not exclusive to voodoo. It owes the practice to traditions like Ifa. The voodoo deities are essentially the orisha adapted to the needs and history of the Haitian people. Much like Cuban Santeria. I hope you are aware of this but the Orisha come from the Ifa tradition of West Africa and Yoruba land. Also, though one can draw connections between the Egyptian pantheon and Loa or Orisha, it does not mean they are derived from them. Now, in the case of traditions like voodoo where syncretism plays a major role in its practice and manifestation, it's not wrong to incorporate a variety of symbols from other systems and faiths, but the Loa and Orisha ARE NOT those deities. The Loa and Orisha have very terrestrial origins and were elevated (I realize this is somewhat overly simplified, but I'll keep it like this for the sake of brevity.) The Egyptian deities did not begin as mortal humans. They are not the same.
gradientsea Amen hahaha Ase waa modupe for this comment. Theres levels to this. I feel like Vodou is like Mixed Martial arts. I respect and Love it.....BUT people who arent DEEP into each tradition and DONT know the levels of power in each should really understand that they LACK a lot of necessary information that makes that system just as powerful as any other, IF each is practice correctly. Its not soo Much the system BUT the PERSON using the system and mastering it!
I think its brother and sister no ones greater than the other. But all have its place due to tribal. Ansestory i prefer obeah inc all systems.
Your first and second sentences don't really add up. Possession is a common practice in almost all African spiritual practices including Òrìsà...but how does that lead to the conclusion that the concept itself originated from Òrìsà devotees? Also, Haitian Voudun does indeed recognize Yoruba Orisas, but also many other dieties from many different regions/people's/cultures of Africa including Dahomey, Mande, Kongo, Igbo etc. etc.
The word "Vodun" itself comes from the Fon and Ewe people of Dahomey/Benin Republic/Togo... Not from Yorubaland at all. Although the concepts of Vodun and Òrìṣà are very similar... If you translate the word "Òrìsà" from Yoruba to Fon, the best option would probably be "Vodun" and if you translate the word "Vodun" from Ewe to Yoruba the best option would probably be "Òrìsà", and if you translate either into Haitian Creole they would call them "lwa", however Yoruba derived lwa in Haitian Voudun are called "Nago" and you also have many different categories of Lwa such as gede and petwo etc.
Also, some Òrìṣà had terrestrial origins, but definitely no all. Èṣù, Ògún, Ọbàtálá etc. are all irúnmolè who are believed to have existed before humans and ancestors, even before the earth as we know it was created...
Voo Doo is most definitely not the strongest point. It's Deeper than that you have to go back down the rabbit hole
I'm loving it! very informative! much love and appreciation! standing by for my reading!
David Riley Ayibobo!!!
David Riley 😍
I would have loved to hear about the ancestors from the Congo and how voodoun made it to Haiti.
They claim it started in America but pretend like it ain’t African
Great information. Thanks for this. I'm just beginning spiritual journey and some times the information out there can be conflicting. You're doing a WONDERFUL job.
I'm happy spirit lead me here. Love the content queen
Thank you and I am proof her readings are on point and she's on point. Thanks Queen
I thoroughly enjoyed the video and all of the comments...very enlightening!!!
Very Solid video Sis
Keep up the good work Sis!
I like this video because it is the only one of its kind so far. Unfortunately I feel like Ifa is kind of severely misrepresented in this video which is unfortunate.
Yemoja followed her children across the sea to the Americas. She made storms to stop the ships that were stealing her children to no avail.
Yemoja would never abandon her children for she is the mother of all.
If she came the rest of the family came with her and they are just as present here in the Americas as the Lwa.
-Respectfully Ra.
The Orisha is the Lwa the culture came to the Fons Dahomey Benin and after it was taught to the Yoruba so take your time and give credit where credit is due
My mother was practicing voodoo before she passed away without mentioning it and I realized it when I took a piece of peppermint candy from the candy dish on her dresser and ate it, she had a fit, she was very upset with me, but I did not know what I did wrong. I did not know that she had a mini alter on her dresser. I apologized to her, but she kept saying damn! damn!, I did not want you to eat that candy. I could not understand why she was so secretive with it.
Peace, wow you could have really unknowingly caused problems for yourself as well as your family. The candy was probably for an alter made for Papa legba as he is known to love small sweets like candies! 🍬. Do a little research on Papa Legba ☠ ⚰
There will be no harm to you ever when you operate in the will of God, and purposed harm has been "practised" or orchestrated without your knowing. It's like the snake that bit Paul the transformed Saul.
Another point I would like to make is that all crafts used by ANY alchemist, does NOT cause harm to anyone. All pain is SELF inflicted. You mother was in anguish due to the fact that the harm she meant to cause with that candy will NEVER work in the sense she means if she means to HARM people. She will always ONLY inflict that pain on herself unless she has been put in imbalance due to a direct inflicted hurt to her integrity by an outside energy. Period. God protects his own(PURE hearts) and has dominion over ALL sources of energy in existence. Always have. Always will. Thanks for sharing. ❤🕵️♀️🖤😏
@@eyedontbowlempress7643 shutup
@@eyedontbowlempress7643 You honestly are mentally colonized 😂😂😂 You wrote all of that Christian themed crap to say absolutely nothing.......Smh
Because the candy was an offering to to the lwa or spirits. It's very sacred , that's the reason why
IFA embodies philosophy, history, science, medicine, poetry, etc. It's purpose is to help human achieve balance and order in their daily lives. Only a minuscule amount of that oral knowledge is known to the generality of the people, aside from that held by direct custodians of that body of knowledge in Yorubaland and other parts of West Africa who continously pass it from one generation to the other.
Thank you so much for the clarification!!!! Such a fan i learned so much!
Love the knowledge and your Beautiful Queen!!!! Subscribed!!!
i appreciate you for making this
Where did Haiti get there voodoo from?
Ifa is the foundation of Vodou. Indeed Vodou has many branches. The main one in the Diaspora
is in Haiti.
Ive seen mounting take place in Ifa ceremonies as well.
Ramona La Roche it’s the most common thing for the Orisa to manifest on their initiates.
Love n please we need to link
Subscribed!!! Ayibobo!!!
Thank you so much ❤❤❤
Wow thanks for this video!!
Thanks for 'This Video'... so much into it, from many spots...
I needed to see this. I was being told info about IFA but there was a lot of restrictions, in the cards, shells, my spirit and even a close friend had given me input. I had a dream that pretty much sad no and this video popped up too
Great video. Do you believe anyone can interact with these spirits and allow them to step in or do you think only specific ppl should do it?
toolite100 You must be of bloodline inheritance for them to step in(mount) you..However to show your respects, you are entitled to do and this brings great protection and reward by receiving blissings from the ancestors
Hathor Akunaten yes Ive witnessed a healing. I wasn't allowed to hear what was spoken to the individual but I witnessed the energy healing the person's body. How they burst into sweat their body got so hot. The Holy Ghost doesn't play. I am thankful that a power greater wants to use me.
Thank you for bringing this topic. It is so important to know that you have so little information .
Thank you for telling us the truth and representing Haitian Mystic Voodoo in the right manner
Facts
Hetep, very interesting. Although we all have i opinions i like how you broke things down. It will enlighten many as it did for me. Ifa our communication with mysteries of the universe, how it is pronounced, how you pronounced it, i dug it.
I was especially interested in your perspective on louisiana creole people. Since although not raised by them, but my paternal grandfather was a jet black creole that spoke no english from Lake Charles outer regions. Ayibobo
Great Knowledge! Ayibobo pou lwa yo
This was Dope!!!
SPEAK! I love you. Thank you so much for clarifying. You are so....sooo....ugh I dont know how to explain it but you have such an empowering and familial essence. Thank you for the guiding wisdom.
wow!!!!!! why you all making this out to sound like a competition . all came from the mother land, so my thing is there are many parts to a human body. at the end of the day they all are linked and work hand in hand. i love you miss diva and you keep up with you linage. respect , i'm a child of ifa from the caribbean . it's all good.
I've subscribed.. I'm new to this practice and I'm open to learning.. I'm also a new member of your Facebook group.. peace and blessings
I enjoy her enthusiasm, but I hope that her knowledge base has increased since this video. Because… where did the Haitians come from.. Africa and then like so our brothers and sisters stolen from our mother land to with them bits and pieces of African spirituality IFA and this is his we have even learned of it today. This has n the greatest gift that our ancestors have given us. Knowledge of who we are thought true understanding of WHO’s we are!! E are a great powerful people!!!!
Peace and blessings always to you my sister!!!
Thank you for this video
Really great teacher may the Orishas bless you for helping us
You know your stuff. Touché !
Larry O no she doesn’t!!!! She’s very ignorant
This was a great video and you said some real stuff!
For people in the comments, first realize that what you mean by Ifa may not be what another person means. It’s hard to even define it. What is Ifa? The name of (a) Yoruba religion/spirituality revolving around venerating the orishas? A Yoruba divination system? The name of a particular god behind said divination system? I’ve heard all three and more perspective argued for. It’s really hard to definite many things within African spirituality because of the nature of the diaspora - concepts have changed and evolved over time and over seas. Depending on the tradition you’re approaching a topic from, one thing can mean something completely different (e.g. are Legba, Elegua, and Eshu the same spirits or different? I’ve heard a number of valid approaches. Where you land should be a matter of discernment and respect for tradition, but it will always come down to your subjective perspective built from experience).
Let’s have grace for one another and remember that we’re all in this diaspora together, and at the end of the day we are all seeking the same gnosis. Love ✊🏽
Traditional ifa is not just dreams spirit and orisha are alive if you are initated
Great video. Thanks for the info as the concept and paths to Voodoo can be very confusing to sort out. Does Haitian Voodoo have anything like IFA? From my understanding in the Lukumi/Ocha IFA works hand in hand with Orisha Priest to help people find balance in their life and get to a better place in life. Orisha Priest are mounted and the Babalawo have power that the Orisha Priest don't have. You have to go to both at some point for different reasons. Now, with that said, sounds like Haitian Voodoo has transformed into it's own spirituality and like other African Spiritualities involving Voodoo and/or IFA spirituality/practices migrated into America and even transformed some more. Which would leave more options for people in America to work with in reconnecting and walking the path of those Ancestors. I am curious if IFA in Africa is a stand alone practice or is there Orisha Priest that get mounted? Also the different classes or families of Spirits that are hot or cold can all act fast or slow as they see fit. I don't see fast as more power, but it sure is nice to get shit done when you need it too. I wish I had these teachers for my Native American Ancestry so while a little confusing at least the gatekeepers and keepers of wisdom are here to seek with a little more ease and they are the key to keeping any spiritual system working correctly and to keep going. Thanks for pointing out that there are differences and it would be wise to not confuse them. Even with my limited knowledge....to me they are so obviously very different in many regards regardless of their common roots. Wado and Blessings.
rocky sanders Lol IFA IS AFA (Vodu) and vice-versa. People don’t really know the history behind how these aspects are connected so, they “create” a history. IFA priests of Benin, Togo and Ghana are called AFA/AFAVI a.k.a BOKOR/Bokonor. Yoruba is not the foundation of IFA/AFA; you can literally go anywhere within the vicinity’s between those countries and learn the same EXACT principles to be a diviner. Peace.
Great video Sister
can you do a tutorial on your head scarf.....I love them.....Keep up the good work.
Do you have a personal email than one can use to discuss in private their concerns?
the voodoodiva86@gmail.com
Thanks
Thank you for teaching me , Ayibobo
Well put. Haitian Vodou (and Dominican Vudú; Cuban Vodú; Brazilian Vodum; and Louisiana Voodoo.) comes from West African Vodun (Benin, and southern and central Togo; as well in Ghana, and Nigeria) where some of our ancestors came from AND has aspects of the Yoruba faith (Southwestern Nigeria and the adjoining parts of Benin and Togo, commonly known as Yorubaland. Yoruba religion is formed of diverse traditions. It has influenced a host of thriving traditions such as Santería, Umbanda, Trinidad Orisha, and Candomblé). Not to mention influences from Catholicism.
I thought Trinidad along with Jamacia has Obeah
I love your headwrap
Great video !!! Her eyes 😍
That intro is AWESOME!
I love what you're wearing 😍...a 5yr later comment cause I am just seeing this..lol!
Tell it Sista! I love it.
Good historical facts.. Appreciate it.
😊I love it mamahun
Haitian Vodu is Ewe Vodu from West Africa, mainly Benin, Togo and Ghana. Ifa and Afa/Fa is basically the same, whereas the Orishas operate Ifa and Vodu operates Fa.
Just subscribed to your channel just from watching this video.... 👍❤
Just Simply, Thank U. 👑
Very succinctly stated. Thank you!
Ifa came to the Americas as well through Cuba with Santería and later Lukumi as well as the rest of the Caribbean then brought to the Americas. Let's not forget it's influence in Brazil. People are also mounted in Ifa. I don't think you should be doing a comparison. You're biased and you're not knowledgeable enough in Ifa. That being said, I have respect for all ancestor/African based versions.
Where was Ifa during slavery?
TALK THAT TALK -GIRL ! TALK IT, AND TALK IT LOUD ! AYIBOBO ! #BLACKPOWER
I don't think you have a full understanding of IFa. Or Orisha it is much deeper. Than you think
+fred G Do u teach?
Most people knows about vodou but not much of Ifa for a reason. Stop putting down vodou to talk about how great Ifa is
Nice one sis
I loved loved loved this video thank yoh
Combungling = My new favorite word. Adding it to the mental dictionary right now.
obviously didn't do your research.
Great info!
Do you know where in Chicago I can learn more about voodoun
I’ve listened to you many times. i’m Haitian and I’m very interested in voodoo. Do I need to become initiated?I have done a lot of research, but I think despite of all the knowledge that I have regarding voodoo, feel like there’s something missing.
Email: thevoodoodiva86@gmail.com
Thank you! I will email her
Sorry,! You are Harthor Akunaten! You are the one I just emailed. I noticed that you simply liked my comment, but you didn’t answer my question of needing to be initiated. Is that something you help people with or do I need to go to someone else?
Thank you I would like to know more of this plz.
Hello, sister it's good that you are dispeling stereotypes about African religions. I have some videos about African tribes, famous Africans in Latin America and Black American history.
i heard on a Documentary that Forest Whitaker was initiated into Santeria
No Filters With Shelly Love I saw the documentary.
Coco T which documentary was it?
Forest Whitaker is a Babalawo night priest of ifa
He's an Igbo Chief
Hes a babalawo. A lot of these celebrities are initiated into ATR. To name a few forest Whitaker, jay z, beyonce, jennifer lopez, marc Anthony, pitbull, celia cruz, Cameron diaz, lisa marie Presley, desi arnaz, hector lavoe, Tito Puente. The list goes on and on
we need that manifestation NOW
Great video. Very informative, especially for someone like myself that is being lead to something other than Christanity. Plus.. your head wrap is super cute!
Treecylady10 Thanks Sis...Im so happy your enjoying...Be sure to visit www.thevoodoodiva.com
omg! I love you!!!
You should do Haitian Voodou vs West African Vodun
That's enlightenment. Following
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Very knowledgeable ... Thanks again 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you for this video❤🖤❤
Don't know where to start because I'm new to all of this, so please forgive me if I sound ignorant. What is the difference between Orisha and IFA? and the difference between Palo Mayombe and Voodoo?
Wholesaling Tony orishas are spirits of ifa
Wholesaling Tony orisha and ifa work with energy from a higher status Palo and voodoo work with energies from this plane!!!
Love this video
Whose Arista Record is on your wall?
Ifa is wisdom.Orunmila is the father of wisdom short and simple. Thanks.
Has anyone heard of putting a fish head at the front and back door before?
Absolute absolute Queen Goddess!
U right when i got a reading i was told i had vodun energy in me as well
question, I am of creole decent my mother was born in Oppelousas,Louisiania,don't know is I spelled it right,lol so we are of haitian decent
David Linton YES!!!
David Linton . Not necessarily. I am Creole with New Orleans & Opelousas Louisiana St Landry Parish origins . I live in Prairie Laurent near Leonville . I am Hoodoo Priestess & Vodou practitioner. I am owner of Creole Conjure Rootwork. I am a genealogist as well. Not all Louisiana Creoles have Haitian descent. Just some. I am one. I can tell you what families came from Haiti.
I'm from Opelousas and my people are Haitian Creole...my ancestor was brought here in 1700 from Haiti.
David Linton I am Louisiana creole and I don't have Haitian descent. Not all were from Haiti.
@@Christian-Gigi question, how do you know you don't have any haitian ancestry?
Well done Queen
All spirituality began with Mami Wata matrilineal system call it by any name you wish but respect the divine mother...