REWILDING BRITAIN - Is the Lynx a Threat to Society?
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As a Swede I really want to stress just how shy and elusive lynxes are.
Even when you are in a region with lots of lynxes you are very very unlikely to see one.
Seeing one is a very special and magical thing, they are majestic animals while being little to no threat to humans.
Just very cool animals.
I haven’t heard much of lynxes taking livestock, tend to be foxes, wolves and the likes.
Lynxes mostly tend to keep deep the forests, far away from humans and farmland.
I don't get why we don't give so much more land up to nature given that (in scotland at least) sheep farming is massively subsidised.
Hopefully thats the future we are moving toward 🌿
People in Norway tend to feed their sheep in woodlands as shown by 3:25 which is the wild lynx's preferable habitat. So it is like they are provoking an attack on their sheep. Feed your sheep in the open and keep livestock guardian dogs, even just one dog and count how many sheep you will lose.
Yes exactly, this is something that some farmers may be able to address. It may be difficult for those who own more wooded land than open.
@@normanmurray3659 You mean Captive lynxs
@@normanmurray3659 Wild lynxs and other predators in general tend to have less fear of humans and are more confident out in the open than their wild relatives and that combined with their high prey drive and hunting instincts is bound to lead to an attack on domestic animals. In summary a wild lynx would behave differently.
@@normanmurray3659 Thanks for the correction
We need to grow a set in the U.K. and start reconnecting with Nature. I come from Rural North England, Teesdale to be exact and I can say we do have enough space to home Lynx. I work all over the country and I pass many wooded areas with Non native Muntjac deer and they are spreading like wildfire; we need to get a grip and rewild our overpopulated island.
Growing a set would be a great start... but yes I agree with you. More needs to be done and we’ll make sure it is 🌿
“Is the Lynx a threat to society”?
Not a single human fatality, since records began.
and I wonder if there has ever been a fatality...
Yeah there’s not much meat on us compared to a deer.
@@Masked_One_1316 Hasn’t stopped other predators killing humans
@@firedrake7663 Haven't been able to find a way to stop us from killing each other. Predators killing humans generally only happens under extraordinary circumstance: rabies, weather ( or habitat loss)that forces wildlife into human territories. On the otherhands we blow each other away daily and with little and sometimes no provocation.
If we are to get serious about repairing our environment they HAVE to be introduced. Farmers will moan, they always do. Maybe they could be compensated for any livestock loss due to the Lynx. I am sure this country can afford it . We seem to be okay wasting billions on things like a pathetic 'track and trace' system and lining the pockets on bent politicians.
Theres certainly enough money going around to cover damages caused by the Lynx 🌿
I am fully behind Lynx introduction. I have travelled to various countries in my life, and feel the British countryside lacks "energy". I feel these rewilding projects will return some of that energy.
You're not wrong. We need a bit more thrill and energy thats for sure 🌿
I live in Arlington Texas between Dallas & Fort Worth. We have the cousin of of the lynx’s, Bobcats, in our local park and in the cities as well. As many as 23 in a seven mile stretch. They are not nocturnal exclusively we see them all the time they use the bike trail. I was lucky enough to see a mother and her 3 kittens last spring. I have seen one walk across the foot bridge next to a family of five. Just like a house cat. A bunch of hand wringing over nothing.
Amazing. This is the trouble with the UK. We look at other countries and any level of doubt stalls the process. Rather than objectively looking at the whole picture. Any cases in your area of bobcats taking livestock?
@@LeaveCurious no but I have seen them chasing rabbits and I saw an armadillo with a bloody stub for a tail. They have been the victim on poachers. DFW is urban so no live stock problems. Sure they will kill chickens, pets and lambs but a good livestock dog will be an adequate deterrent. Remember the sheep are the ones really displacing other species. They could probably do just fine in suburban London.
Remeber a European lynx can be double the size of a bobcat.
So I can't imagine a 25kg cat running around London.
@@LeaveCurious The trouble with the UK is it is rammed full of selfish people.
@@lafunk1978 It would never come anywhere close to London, they are the shyest creatures you could imagine. I’m just so sad about my country’s farmers keeping us from having the lynx in healthier numbers it’s a shame.
Your idea that it's a great idea to acclimate Lynx to human interaction as you did showing tourists watching a Lynx eat a rabbit or when you waxed poetic about how cool it would be to have a probability of an encounter with a Lynx while walking about your daily business just does not cut it. The whole idea about re-wilding is that if we allow Lynx or wolves to populate their natural habitats they DO NOT INTERACT WITH PEOPLE. A wolf or Lynx will go out of their way to avoid contact with man. When people do see wolves or Lynx in zoos they are usually disappointed at how shy they are and how much they DO NOT want to see or be seen by humans,as in "The wolves do not come to the front of their enclosures.Can you make them come out for us?"
I do not think the Lynx should be acclimated to people. The ecology of fear is extremely important. The biggest hurdle in reintroducing the lynx to the UK is people/ social issues. A way this hurdle is overcome is through time, understanding and education. A lynx enclosure is one example of how people can better understand the Lynx. That specific enclosure is part of wider successful introduction scheme where there are many wild Lynx that never cross paths with people and I agree that’s how it should it be. But if I was walking in those woods, being the avid environmentalist that I am, I just couldn’t help but want to catch a glimmer of the Lynx. I don’t see what part of that doesn’t cut it.
@@LeaveCurious The need for there to be an exception to "Lynx and Wolves interaction should be avoided at all times. The idea that an "eco-zoo" should be an exception because people are more intrigued and apt to support my program. Or since I am so environmentally aware that -even though the rule says interaction should be avoided at all cost it would be okay if I were "Casually strolling" through their territory (even though this territory would be chosen to intersect with humans least by ecologists or even by the animals if they had their way) and accidentally "stumble across" their habitat. You seem to be environmentally savvy so it is,at least, unlikely , and at worst on purpose. So again I offer my opinion that the idea that you could "accidentally'" have contact with the re-introduced specimens because you feel the quite understandable rush of wonder that these marvels of nature exist in our world goes against the idea you are promoting. Even people doing counts and updates on wildlife are now using stand cameras and drones to observe live populations. It is incredibly exciting and joyous to come in contact with rare nature but, If you are in contact because you are one and one can't hurt and I too want that contact and so we are two and before long you have an outdoors eco-zoo and the inevitable hunters and unfortunate encounters caused by the desensitization of the wild animals to humans and also let's face it -Every encounter with a wild animal makes them that less wild. I live in a country that still has lynx and wolves , although great numbers have been slaughtered -even in my lifetime. When I was a boy where ever I went I would find the place I could connect with nature. When we inevitably moved to the suburbs we moved into one of the thousands built in what used to be the Brookfield forest. Ours was the house sitting next to a great scar in the earth marking the place where the construction ran out. On one side was the new school and houses-then a great barren plain and finally the primeval wilderness.My brother and I immediately spent most free time walking and mapping and wandering while poking at nature.One day we saw someone's cat wandering also and chased it into a corner.It was our intention to keep it as our own pet( it was big and had cool ears) and so eventually we cornered it and held it at bay with sticks .It endured our poking with savage looks and cross sneers. The final insult he would brook was my touching his backside while my brother kept him preoccupied. He turned eyes of fire and let out a frightening hiss and a booming growl that seemed to come up through him from the earth itself. Eventually, it occurred to us that what we saw was NOT a big house cat and our encyclopedia identified it as a Bob Cat. But now comes the point of the story as GREAT as that encounter was for us , we would never have it again.No matter how much we searched or waited covered with tree boughs, the Bobcat was gone that one encounter destroyed the usefulness of that territory for the Bob cat . Who knows maybe we tainted it as soon as he caught our scent and thank goodness too because had he not left his proximity to small children eager for a glimpse of him would probably have ended whatever life he was allowed to have left before the earthmovers started up again. Even one unfortunate encounter can do great damage.
The whole notion that ~150 lynx could in any way threaten society to the point of collapse is preposterous.
People are always the issue. I think this would work if there was a proper compensation scheme for predated animals. I think the problem is highlighted in the video. Every dead sheep would be blamed on the Lynx and so there would be many claims. I think that the best chance is to build a really strong relationship with farmers and to release in national parks. I'd love to see Lynx wild in the UK.
Yes that relationship with the farmers is key, as is educating the public on the many benefits of a Lynx reintroductions.
As a south african I remember doing my undergrad in nature conservation and in 1 module we discussed the biodiversity of Britain and the fact that it is so low. Im glad to see this is a topic of discussion in the UK 15 years later. No ecosystem is healthy without an apex predator. It fills me with hope to see the lynx, bison and wolf recover in Europe. Nature can heal and recover if only we as humans allow it the space to. Come on Britain lets start saving the planet.
Yes the decline of biodiversity has been a problem for a long time. As an island we should have a real variety of endemic species, but we don’t
I grew up on a farm in south Wales near a few small woodlands and marshland and im absolutely certain ive seen a lynx on 3 seperate occasions. Once from a distance, once through a scope of a rifle so i got a good look at it and the 3rd time was also through a scope but my uncle saw it too. Ive since moved away and unfortunately not seen one since
They have lynx in the French alps, there have been no problems
& a Beautiful place for the Lynx to live 🌿
We have Scottish wildcat who are known attack humans let alone sheep and no one gives a shit
They should carry out a trial re-introduction in an area of Scotland that can be kept isolated from the rest of the country e.g. like Kintyre (as you mentioned in the video). This will allow the effect of lynx on sheep to be examined and to see how big a problem it is. Paying generous compensation to the farmers would be vital, and it should be noted that female sheep can be made to miscarry their lambs if they are harassed, possibly by a lynx, when heavily pregnant. Some way of compensating farmers for this would need to be worked out. I am generally in favour of their return so that they can reduce the deer population and allow woodland regeneration but the interests of the local farmers must not be overlooked.
Yes precisely, considering those people living closest to the Lynx is essential. I'm sure a good compensation scheme, as well as other forms of mitigation, can be thought of even without a trial period. Thanks for your comment 🌿
There are countries around the world where farmers have to deal with much bigger threats than Lynx. I'm talking bears, mountain lions, wolves and farmers in these areas get on fine. I think a big part of what would help is the farmers here in the UK having livestock guardian dogs, they're a great deterrent towards predators. That combined with generous compensation should be enough for the farmers. The logistics of sorting out a dog for them wouldn't be easy but it's what is used around the world and others have suggested them regarding this topic. Personally I am for their reintroduction.
I'd like to know just how effective a guardian dog/s would be as a deterrent & also exactly what it would mean for the farmers to keep guardian dogs. But I agree with everything you've said, thanks for commenting!
@@LeaveCurious I watch a youtuber sometimes who is a farmer in America, and he has to deal with coyotes, lynx - different species of course; and bears. He hasn't had any issue since getting his dog and he's planning on getting another. So they are effective for sure! That's true as well as looking after a dog is another animal that needs feeding, shelter, etc so it would be something that requires some consideration. While it is unlikely they would release lynx where I live, just north west of London, the prospect of them being in the country is interesting!
Are dogs the same things that are required to be put on leashes due to the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 around sheep? I’m interested in how dogs will work with sheep but the mere sight of a dog is enough for a ewe to miscarry. And if lynx can take on a deer bigger or equal to a roe it definitely will take on sheep that is much easier prey. Think about it, deer have much sharper senses and are more mobile, yet lynx will subdue them. Now imagine your hunting for food not knowing where you next meal is. Would you go for the target that does not take as much effort to run to taking into account lynx are ambush predators? And if lynx are elusive and nocturnal, where is this tourism coming from? And what effect would lynx have on ground nesting birds that are so fragile right now?
@@alcibiades4716 well the lynx in Europe are not decimating sheep or ground nesting birds.... So I can't see why they would do that in the uk
Is there some sort of list that provides all the rewilding projects in the UK so I can monitor their progress?
Namely species introduction and re-introduction.
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk/rewilding-network/projects these are just the ones which are affiliated with rewilding britain. but there are heaps more! 🌿
Informative video
What would be the best way to positively feed into that Scottish study for rewilding the lynx? Is there a website for it?
So I haven't seen any official ways to vote or anything yet, but keep a close eye on the follow link treesforlife.org.uk/about-us/lynx-to-scotland/
Really our first step should be stopping sheep farming.
Yes or giving farmers proper mitigation/ incentives to rewild their land 🌿
Would it not be possible to rewild a large island in UK and introduce Lynx - not sure what size island would be needed but there must surely be a landowner who is interested - good place to study for university students possibly a boating tourism site for local people.
Potentially yes, this is a good idea, but I don't think there's an island big/suitable enough. Something to look into for sure! 🌿
How about the Isle of Mull?
All for Lynx and Wolves but can't see the latter making an appearance any time soon. Big bad wolf and all that
It's certainly going to be harder to warm the public around to a wolf or 6... hopefully within our lifetimes.
Yeah, I can understand the potential threat from wolves being considerably bigger than Lynx, though other dangerous animals like sea eagles & bison have or will be making a return, so anything is possible
@@aaronkirk9529 that's a very good point. one I'd like to form a video around in the future. Anything is possible!!
@@LeaveCurious thanks. I just thought it would a point worth mentioning. Also another animal that you could talk about in ur video, which would be a great example, would be wild boar & how this animal, despite having a negative reputation, has reestablished itself into parts of the Uk & also gained public support & likeness
@@aaronkirk9529 yes the story of the boar has been very interesting to follow! great suggestions, thanks again! 🌿
It is likely that people can be convince for Lynx and Wolves over time, since they really aren't that dangerous, but you aren't likely to convince them about Bears and I didn't even know that Elephants were a part of the historical British ecosystem but they would be a hard pass for most people. While it's not likely that these animals would hurt people, they have the capacity to and the British don't know large carnivore etiquette so Bears and Brits would not likely get along. Elephants and their musth phase are a little to scary, personally.
The UK really couldn't be more disconnected to large animals roaming free... the large carnivore etiquette is something which'll have to be learnt all over again. But the Lynx is a really good place to start.
thanks mate
welcome mate!
My Dad who lives in Norfolk says that Muntjac dear raiding his garden drive him mad.
This is a subject that I have a difficult time getting my mind around because I live in Canada, and not in Toronto. I live in a town where every year we have a mountain lion or two follow the deer up the river into town. We have moose, coyotes, foxes, deer, beavers, and so many other animals just…here. And bears don’t live close to my town but there are plenty of towns and cities near me where bears and even wolves are just part of life.
You have to do education, and people have to understand how to interact safely and respectfully with animals. But for the most part the big predators are less of a danger to humans because they just leave us alone. It’s the elk and other large herbivores who get entangled in human foolishness because people don’t see them as threatening that causes more death and injury.
Couldn’t you also have farmer have large dogs such Livestock guardian breeds live with their flock would significantly decrease lynx attack not only them being unable to sneak up on sheep in the middle of a field but now with the added protection of massive dog significantly larger than themselves
Lynx maybe but not wolves as they hunt in pacts and harass there prey , in the French alps and in Swiss alps they are becoming a problem.
We need to weigh up the pros and cons.
Yes! A lengthy process
@@LeaveCurious Maybe, but unnecessary process if we’re going to make judgements on other people.
I've got an idea
Fences
The question is: Are there enough rabbits in the UK? If you don't have a large number of rabbits in the countriside, that could be a problem to reintroduce all these animals. The rabbit is the key. Greetings from Spain.
I live in the South East of the UK & I can confidently say yes, there are a lot of rabbits.
@@LeaveCurious Good.
@@danoninonino1864 they're the main food for Lynx in Spain?
@@LeaveCurious Rabbits, mouses....yeah,
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@@danoninonino1864 The Iberian lynx is only 65% the size of the Eurasian lynx. Which means that it has specialised as a rabbit hunter, Eurasian lynx can tackle small to medium-sized deer. In Britain we have roe deer and fallow deer, which would be ideal lynx prey, red deer young and does might also be on the menu.
Aren't lynx already here along with pumas & black leopards? Never seen any myself but some people think these 3 species of big cats are living & breeding in the wilds of the UK. Also, you mention elephants. I'm sure I saw somewhere or watched a George Monbiot video about the introduction of elephants, rhinos & African lions into an area the size of Poland on the European continent, which would ultimately mean the displacement of millions of people.
Rewilding is global & I've even read about a plan to introduce rhinos into the Australian outback where they've never been native! So the UK big cat rumours can't be all smoke without fire as I believe global rewilding is happening as we speak!
UK wolf reintroduction has been debated in the UK since the 60's & continues to go round in an never ending circle, but has occurred all over the rest of Europe. What if we went down the big cat route instead? A big cat would blend into the modern UK ecosystem far easier than pack hunting wolves & bears due to the fact they're solitary nocturnal hunters & would be far less conspicuous! Interesting vids you do!👍🛸🍺🍻😷😁👍
In comparison to most other countries, the UK is probably one of the most environmentally depleted countries in the world, thats with respect to megafauna... but also for swathes of unmanaged, wilder habitats... thats for a number of reasons too, not least that we're a relatively small island. Globally, the UK is very much behind for one reason or another. If there are wild big cats in the UK they're relatively few in number and they do a bloody good job of being discrete. For predator reintroductions you're right cats like a Lynx is a great place to start! 🌿
I saw a lynx a few days ago while I was doing my driving job. Well I think it was a lynx because of size colour and its ears. This was in England.
This is so interesting to me. But, you could compare results of living with predators in other populated areas. Where I live in Pennsylvania, USA we have predators naturally living amongst us, that include black bear, coyote, bobcat and some have even seen mountain lions (cougars). There are towns every couple of miles with populations between 1000 - 45,000 people. And while we know these animals live here, it is rare to see them and human interaction with them is rare as well. We also are surrounded with farms including dairy and sheep farms, and yes, they can be preyed upon, but there are ways to prevent that, including fencing and guard dogs. These predators mainly hunt deer, rabbit, other small animals and roadkill, and as someone else mentioned are shy and elusive. You will find that it will be a rare and exciting thing to see a lynx run across your pathway.
But there would need to be wild corridors for these animals to live and hunt in.
Yes! Re-Introduce Lynx to Scotland. But NOT Kintyre. I would suggest larger areas such as the Trossachs, The Cairngorms, andall acroos the central Highlands.
cant wait in 50 years when England has fallen to the predations of the great lynx horde
It will be dark days indeed... but at least nature would have had her way...
My opinion is the lynx is more likely to return to Britain then other predators (in a near future sence) I've talked to about this before and what I've seen people are more in favour of the lynx but time will tell.
Totally agree, it seems the most likely candidate!
Bring them back and pay the gamekeepers and farmers 🏴🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
Yes, this is one option
@@LeaveCurious
I think first we have to bring the rabbit population back it’s a missing part of the eco system not just for lynx many species suffer from low populations of rabbit 🐇
@@Falconer710 rabbits are not native and land owners have a legal obligation to control their numbers.
I like this idea bc it gives the sheep herders a stake in it.
Would the Lynx not kill other cats like the very rare Scottish Wildcat if it was introduced to Scotland ?
That is something to think about.
When wolves were reintroduced into Yellowstone National Park, coyote numbers fell and fox numbers grew. The wolves prey on coyotes and coyotes prey on foxes. That is an interesting dynamic.
There are already lynx wild in Devon.
Have you seen any?
Them glasses make me nervous
ahh haha, I've had a few comments about those glasses... I'm a nice guy really
They have black bears in New Jersey.
1:37 and us humans is well!
A yes from me. Most definitely.
I can not wait I'm so looking forward to seeing wild animals here in the uk the 1s we got are pansies
You gotta still love the fox, badger, hedgehog etc... but we are in need of an apex predator or two though!!
@@LeaveCurious Apart from the badger they mostly rodents. I wona see animials hunt. I live wildlife but foxes just do my head in 🤣
Lynx's are very shy.
Deer too numerous ? Not near where I live . Poachers with lamps have wiped them out in large areas . And lynx , I guess they would kill them also .
Hmm where do you live?
@@LeaveCurious South Lakeland . We have had red deer , red/sika cross and roe . Sheep have also been taken , mainly now by lampers , previously also by men with dogs but the main dog culprit is now ill .
@@mike02439 sheep too!? why sheep, I can understand deer as part of culling, but sheep...
@@LeaveCurious Theft . In one case two stolen sheep were traced to a butchers shop .
just cant listen to someone in dark glasses despite their message
That's a shame!
Missed out on a good video then
@@WildlifeWithCookie thank you sir
Compensate livestock farmers for losses. Pay them to look after the predators.
🙌 🙌 🌿
@@LeaveCurious
Farmers receive subsidies already, right? They can receive additional ones.
The diet of mutton can be adjusted to have one in which there is more beef - they are much harder for lynxes, bears, and wolves to kill - and also eating more poultry...
@@musafawundu6718 Yes farmers do under country side stewardship... the policy is going to all change over the next few years, which i'm making a video on currently. But compensation schemes are present in many countries in europe*, all with varied effectiveness. but IMO its better than nothing.
@@LeaveCurious
I truly hope that they will properly implement the compensation packages so that wolves, lynxes, and bears will return to Britain without much opposition from livestock farmers.
I have this view that humans should be responsible custodians of nature. Development should not supercede all concerns. If one destroys the habitat of wildlife, one has to expect them to pay a toll in livestock and crops.
The reality is that farmers are chiefly concerned with their economic interests, rather than accepting losses due to interruption of nature, and they would want to retaliate by even exterminating predators and other animals. But the state has much greater responsibility than they do. Hence, farmers, out of the practical realities and necessity, must be compensated for losses.
We have too many sheep in Scotland, woolly maggots preventing the regrown of the natural forest. Let’s have the lynx and fewer sheep in Kintire and the Caledonian forest, and next, wolves.
I wouldn't piss one off but yeah, they're not about to end the world
Yeah for sure, those claws are sharp! I think the chances of getting close enough to one to piss it off is slim 🌿
People are seeing them in the forest of Dean, from what i have read, all so wolves, puma's too, id it true,
Wonder how many sheep are killed by domestic dogs each year?? Or cars for that matter??
This is a very fair point, particularly for dogs. I think with domesticated animals, there is a sense of control over them, unlike the Lynx which would very much be wild. But I'd love to know the statistics.
Would you not quite happily spend spent 5 pounds per month to pay charity that is compensating sheep loss to farmers for a chance to see glimpse of them in nature on British soil ?
thinks it's all good untill they start to eat your pets
Wild Lynx don't predate pets very often at all actually. Like many wild animals, such as a boar, swan.. even a rat, anything that feels threatened, particularly when they have young, they'll attack out of defense. More so than actually hunting to kill. Its dogs out on a walk with their humans that typically drives this situation. Lynx is also known for staying away from people. In the context of the UK, given there's an abundance of natural prey, rabbits, squirrels, other small mammals and deer, I think our pets would be just fine.
if reintroduced predators have enough wild pray they will leave farmers livestock alone. they have to eat so re-introduce native wild herbivores like beavers, deer and boar etc. its a circle
Yes I agree 🌿
@@LeaveCurious the government needs to nationalise land in national parks by buying houses and farm land within them at the evaluated market price by estate agents. Then the national parks (Exmoor, Dartmoor, Yorkshire Moors and dale's etc) can be left to turn wild and animals can have there own separate habitats. Mini yellow stone parks.
Re-introduce deer when their numbers are at their highest for 1000 years and 4 of the 6 species of deer we have in the uk aren't native? 🙄
Bring them back
😸 🌿
why is the deer population sky rocketing?
fundamentally its a lack of natural predators, but in their place you have man with a gun and I don't think the culls are effective or maybe the demand for venison had decreased... something worth looking into.
Lynx might not be as dangerous as wolves or bears but can can potentially kill valuable lifestock, pets and most importantly children so shouldn't be here human life is priority and farmers get it hard enough without predators taking out lifestock it's their livelihood this affects most and their children who will be most at risk as their properties are were the animals will go to hunt. Why not keep it safe for people and instead of focusing on animals start helping our own species putting more money and land into housing for homeless, schools, medical facilities etc
i say yes bring them back
in fact bring back all the wild animals that used to be here even a few bears
Bears would be a sight!!
@@LeaveCurious I believe what you are doing is fantastic and beautiful you have my full support
@@Gypsygeekfreak17 thank you!!!
Bears is too far. We want to make nature in the United Kingdom thrive again... but not to make nature an actual danger to the people living here. Imagine going for a casual walk through the local woods and having to worry about coming across a Brown Bear. Not for me.
@@firedrake7663 I wouldn't worry, our landmass is too small for a decent bear population.
I prefer lynx that is rarely to kill human but not the Wolve. Just get big shephard dog is OK!
Shepherd dogs are a very interesting prospect for sure in the UK, thanks for watching 🌿
In the forests of mainland Europe, adult male Eurasian Lynx have been known to kill adult Wolves. Even a large dog isn’t as safe as you think.
we need a predator in britain and the lynx will lower deer numbers and restore the landscape of fear . And will have minimal impact on livestock
you're very right my friend!!
The number of lynx that the uk could support is so low that it would have little to no effect on deer numbers. Yeh solution to deer numbers is the public eating more venison
Britian should learn from India .
Yes, we certainly could 🌿
not really if people are educated
Agreed!!
Don't see why just Scotland should be in wales an England is well in my opinion
Bring back the lynx, if they take a few sheep then they have have as much right to them as the idiots who eat them, there is a bigger issue here though which is getting people to change their diet.
This is a fair point. Adequate compensation is a must for loses. Thanks for commenting 🌿
@@LeaveCurious how much is one sheep worth? How much should the taxpayer pay to reimburse a farmers who lost a lamb? That’s years worth of money lost on one sheep.
Can’t blame me for liking lamb with my mint sauce. I’m glad I’m supporting a farmer, the guy at the slaughter house, the guy who delivers it to the butcher, and the butcher himself. A bad argument, your premise being to leave farmers in the mud and let them pay for themselves. Just remember every time you eat who made that food!
If people cull wolves the pack spread out taking easy sheep. letting a pack of 10 wolves stay together bring down bison even bears.
This makes a lot of sense! 🌿
Been proven, land owners and farmers cull wolves it makes the pack weaker so then they cant bring bison down
BUY NEW ZEALAND LAMB
Bring back:
- Wolves
- Lynxes
- Bears
- Beavers
Of course we'll have to be careful with where we start them off but I think it'd be great if we brought back all the natural wildlife that we wiped out years ago.
The starting point is crucial as is many other parts of the introduction. I’m certain in our lifetimes we’ll see it 🌿
We now have beavers and they are breeding!
I understand about compensation for farmers but if a lynx kills a sheep and farmers are compensated for what that sheep is worth at the time of it’s death, it still doesn’t cover the full value of that sheep. It doesn’t take into account the lambs that could have been born from it, or the wool that would have been shorn from it. So even if a flat price is paid for the dead sheep, it still doesn’t cover the fact that the farmer has lost any further profit from that sheep. Personally I think reintroducing Lynx is a good idea, but we need to take the daily lives of farmers seriously when they will likely be the ones sharing land with the animals. I’ve heard it said that Lynx don’t actually kill sheep (which is great if it’s true) but I don’t think anyone can blame farmers for being hesitant when their livelihoods are dependent on whether or not this information is completely accurate.
You're right, it may be hard to put an exact monetary figure on it, but I think given time, compensation can be figured out to accurately account for losses. Where that money comes from is another question. Coupled with other mitigation such as guardian dogs/ fences, it could work, but the only way we'll really know is if we try it.
Just release them and then deal with the consequences like we did with the beavers lol 🤣🤣🤣 bring them back ❤❤
Or you can just have more deer hunters in Britain and have more deer meat on menus.
Yes! Local wild deer should be in all British supermarkets.
Lynx in the Uk have never been extinct many people have had a sighting of these extremely elusive animal , this video has been made by people that know nothing of this subject .
I mean, where is the evidence?
granted they're elusive, but in a place as small as the UK with even smaller areas of potential habitat and given the population density and well how monitored/mapped the UK is, it does seem unlikely that they Lynx held out. I do believe though that over the years there have been big cat escapees, but they never would of been able to sustain a population
Seems a harsh comment when there isn't any good evidence of a viable population of Lynx, let alone even good evidence of sightings. You've missed the point.