@Brandon Sanderson I’m a recovering addict, I’ve tried the twelve steps and they don’t really work for me to well. The mantra that keeps me clean is “you can not have my pain”. For someone who has admittedly never done drugs you captured the struggle of addiction perfectly. Truly one of the best authors of our time.
Thanks for posting this - just starting to watch - I was one of those in line at C2E2 for over 30-45 minutes and was turned away due to the room not being large enough to accommodate all those waiting. So - grateful to finally have the chance to listen to this discussion. Appreciated!
Brandon seems to have a good solution for the problem of coming up with names: Tress, Painter, Silence, Sixth of the Dusk, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, etc.
Thank you for uploading this one! I was in the massive line of people who got turned away after the room filled up, so glad I can watch it here instead!
Giving a man without faith something to believe in that fit his values without deriding him for a lack of theistic faith is something that always meant the world to me. So thank you for that.
Agree. And it is so important as an author to learn how to 'yadi yadah.' In a series you can do more to flesh out the world or worlds of your story but words count limits you to picking a few things. We can't all be Sanderson. 😂
You know those people who claim that they didn't study at all for a test and they'll fail for sure and then they get an A. That's Veronica's pitching. 😂
the important thing when find-and-replace-ing is to F&R " earl " instead of "earl" to not catch false positives. Might have to do " earls " too, but that's better than the described mistake in the video
It was an enjoyable session. Not just standing room only, but had to ask some people to clear out that had blocked the doors and created a fire hazard.
We just like it because the setting is usually New York or SanFransisco, and if it isn't one of those two, then the author most likely is trying to bring attention to another less well known city, or one that the author lives in or knows well.
She needed information on a man in a powerful position who would be scrutinized due to his race, so she picked perhaps the most relevant contemporary example.
I didn’t read the book so I don’t know what the character’s like but I’m just thinking if he’s from Chicago and grew up there, and isn’t mixed, he would have a very different view of things than Barak Obama. I’m Puertorican and grew up in the west side of the Bronx. The ghetto. Me coming into the limelight would be very different than a Puertorican who grew up in Hawaii. What she says about research makes sense. But her choice? That doesn’t make sense
Ok I can understand Sanderson talking about worldbuilding, but shouldnt Veronica Roth's "Divergent" usually serve as a case study on BAD worldbuilding? XD
I guess making mistakes is the best way to learn? Maybe she has figured out to just avoid what she did the first time, and she’ll be good? I don’t know and don’t want to hate on her that much because i don’t really care.
@@Honer_300 Nah, no hate on her person. Just caught me off guard seeing her here talking about worldbuilding. I am pretty sure I have actually seen a video essay on bad worldbuilding looking at her books as an example tho :D (Also her books can still be good and enjoyable, worldbuilding isnt everything)
@@kolliwanne964I think her world building had interesting parts to it, even if fairly tropey even at the time of its release. And while it does fall apart as it goes on, it still made an interesting world that allowed for fun stories. (Now it’s been like a decade since I had seen/read the series so I don’t remember every part of it.) And I’m sure there are some people out there who think Sanderson shouldn’t teach writing because they think his prose is bad. While I would disagree with that sentiment, it still goes to show what one person prefers can vary so much from what someone else prefers.
She has written several bestselling books, including a series that was made into a movie (which I'll admit to not having read). She has clearly created worlds that resonate with a large audience, even if it's not you (or me). In a room of budding authors, both of these successful authors have plenty to contribute.
Thank you for putting these on TH-cam for free!
@Brandon Sanderson I’m a recovering addict, I’ve tried the twelve steps and they don’t really work for me to well. The mantra that keeps me clean is “you can not have my pain”. For someone who has admittedly never done drugs you captured the struggle of addiction perfectly. Truly one of the best authors of our time.
I hope you recover well!
I loved this. You two compliment each other so well on stage. Thanks for posting it.
the fact that the 1st concept is language speaks volumes of Tolkien’s influence. great talk.
Thanks for posting this - just starting to watch - I was one of those in line at C2E2 for over 30-45 minutes and was turned away due to the room not being large enough to accommodate all those waiting. So - grateful to finally have the chance to listen to this discussion. Appreciated!
You're both two of my favorite writers ever.
Also, I have met Veronica Roth and she is awesome.
I'm cackling at Brando re-reading after that search & replace only to find someone awake "dukey in the morning."
Real good video and I loved Veronica too, she looks like fun person to talk to.
Let's stormin gooooooooooooo!
Brandon seems to have a good solution for the problem of coming up with names: Tress, Painter, Silence, Sixth of the Dusk, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, Doug, etc.
An unexpected crossover
I loved this! I can’t afford to go to conventions… this makes me feel like I’m there! Appreciate you !
I just started Tres of the Emerald Sea and I IMMEDIATLY saw the Princess Bride inspirations without knowing it was inspired by it.
This was absolutely delightful, thank you, Brandon and Veronica
I didn't know how funny Veronica Roth was, you two are great!
Are there other panels or podcasts where Veronica Roth talks about writing? I like the way she thinks.
A cool crossover, excited to listen!
Thank you for uploading this one! I was in the massive line of people who got turned away after the room filled up, so glad I can watch it here instead!
10 seconds, I'm so early. We love you Brandon!
Thank you so much for posting this!!!
Brandon Sanderson is a beast of a writer. He can’t be stopped. His method is solid, his intent is clear, bro is going to the moon
he's a prodigy writer
You're both brilliant writers and I will read anything you both write.
Giving a man without faith something to believe in that fit his values without deriding him for a lack of theistic faith is something that always meant the world to me. So thank you for that.
Thank you for sharing this! Lots of great insight from two fantastic authors. :)
here before adonalsium guy
Nah 😁
@@zenthepoet.I think they were :/ by a few seconds
@@Osyrous ok I'll give them that 17 seconds lol
So happy Sanderson read Leviathan. Truly a great world and a pretty good story as well.
Which one?
@@sandkiller the ones he mentioned were Scott Westerfield.
Great crossover! Haha. Enjoyed this quite a bit. It went by so fast
great you had Veronica up with you, she's funny:D
This is really helpfull! I love the specific questions and the great examples!
I loved the final question.
I've never wanted a novella about Cosmere plumbers more though.
Brandon is just on another level
Amazing Panel!! ❤🗣️
I’m going to be next one up there taking questions 😊
Loved it
damn we got here fast
It took me 32 minutes to realize it was Veronica Roth 😅
Agree. And it is so important as an author to learn how to 'yadi yadah.' In a series you can do more to flesh out the world or worlds of your story but words count limits you to picking a few things. We can't all be Sanderson. 😂
i watched this cuz brandon but veronica's book pitch got me pretty intrigued
You know those people who claim that they didn't study at all for a test and they'll fail for sure and then they get an A. That's Veronica's pitching. 😂
the important thing when find-and-replace-ing is to F&R " earl " instead of "earl" to not catch false positives. Might have to do " earls " too, but that's better than the described mistake in the video
2024 Vote for Hoid!
@5:45 my professors in college always used to say “don’t bring it up in the paper if you don’t want to write about it” 💀
You really wanna focus on this weird social drama when off in the corner the Archangel Michael is struggling to hold back the tides of hell
It was an enjoyable session. Not just standing room only, but had to ask some people to clear out that had blocked the doors and created a fire hazard.
Ngl i didnt expect her to be that cute when i read her book
the panel of "Worldbuilders Who Have Both Destroyed Chicago In A Novel At Some Point"
"Come for the fantasy, stay for the dragons"
More like come with the dragons, stay for the fantasy lol
Very interesting!
We just like it because the setting is usually New York or SanFransisco, and if it isn't one of those two, then the author most likely is trying to bring attention to another less well known city, or one that the author lives in or knows well.
Thank you so much for posting this
What non-YA books from Veronica do you recommend?
Adoooonalsium
Dang you quick
@@Osyrous translation: I'm chronically online an unhealthy amount of time 😅
Who else is going to casually drop the word “verisimilitude” in their next conversation about a fantasy story ! 😊
50:00
Gukey to bed.
Dukey to rise.🤣
The guy in the end, was he really wearing Elend's costume or am I tripping lol
I was!!! If you notice my girlfriend who asked the question about breaking rules right before me was dressed as Vin!
I replayed it to catch it this time. That's one of my favourite fantasy couple! ❤️@@andyneeley28
You Wily Fox Roth!
13 minutes in and did anyone else catch in the discussion, the authorial enhanced vocab of Roth - incongruous and Sanderson - verisimilitude, ??
You wily fox Sanderson!
Dont let anyone Airsick season the soup
These conferences just showcase why Brandon is just way ahead and more talented than everyone else
“I needed information on a black guy, so I researched Barack Obama” the least black man you could possibly pick🤦♂️
She needed information on a man in a powerful position who would be scrutinized due to his race, so she picked perhaps the most relevant contemporary example.
I didn’t read the book so I don’t know what the character’s like but I’m just thinking if he’s from Chicago and grew up there, and isn’t mixed, he would have a very different view of things than Barak Obama. I’m Puertorican and grew up in the west side of the Bronx. The ghetto. Me coming into the limelight would be very different than a Puertorican who grew up in Hawaii. What she says about research makes sense. But her choice? That doesn’t make sense
Veronica looks and sounds just like Mackenzie Davis! So strange 😆
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@@Sp0okt4rd great minds think alike
Would dystopic novels going forward be considered historical fiction?
"My favorite thing is to destroy Chicago"
Well, your liberal credentials check out 😂
Ok I can understand Sanderson talking about worldbuilding, but shouldnt Veronica Roth's "Divergent" usually serve as a case study on BAD worldbuilding? XD
I guess making mistakes is the best way to learn? Maybe she has figured out to just avoid what she did the first time, and she’ll be good? I don’t know and don’t want to hate on her that much because i don’t really care.
@@Honer_300 Nah, no hate on her person. Just caught me off guard seeing her here talking about worldbuilding. I am pretty sure I have actually seen a video essay on bad worldbuilding looking at her books as an example tho :D
(Also her books can still be good and enjoyable, worldbuilding isnt everything)
@@kolliwanne964I think her world building had interesting parts to it, even if fairly tropey even at the time of its release. And while it does fall apart as it goes on, it still made an interesting world that allowed for fun stories. (Now it’s been like a decade since I had seen/read the series so I don’t remember every part of it.)
And I’m sure there are some people out there who think Sanderson shouldn’t teach writing because they think his prose is bad. While I would disagree with that sentiment, it still goes to show what one person prefers can vary so much from what someone else prefers.
She has written several bestselling books, including a series that was made into a movie (which I'll admit to not having read). She has clearly created worlds that resonate with a large audience, even if it's not you (or me).
In a room of budding authors, both of these successful authors have plenty to contribute.
She wrote Divergent in a holiday break. It's not exactly the peak of her skills