lock was my first character back in vanilla, played all classes and all expansions, but always kept coming back... its like an addiction:) cant wait for classic
I like the in game examples of how to play. since anyone watching is obviously new. most guides just show slide shows of info they ripped from a website.
Good guide and video, I agree with most of it up until the point where you go into afflic after getting imp void Note - I'm gonna be on a pvp server for classic so my philosophy is gonna be a little dif for leveling than yours. I start with 5/5 imp corr, then 2/2 life tap. After that u can go 2 ways to go for imp void immediately: 3/5 demonic embrace and then 2/2 imp health stone, or just 5/5 embrace and then go right into 3/3 imp void. After that I actually stay in demo tree for a bit longer just to get master summ and then demonic sac. This is where I switch to afflic. I usually go soul link for leveling as I'm gonna be solo alot of the time, I can duo with a healer friend irl but we won't be able to always level and play together so this is optimized for solo play. And again, it's gonna be on a pvp server so being extra tanky and having demo sac and master summ will be good for those random WPVP scenarios and random ganks, which is also why I'd go 2/2 imp health stone early on. You still get 5/5 demonic embrace anyway but the imp h.s is nice for early levels and everywhere after. After demo sac I move back into afflic and get 3/5 suppression, 2/2 drain soul, amp curse, 3/3 imp corr. At this point you should be level 45 and then I literally respec to full Soul Link build. I like doing this at 45 bc u can also get 5/5 imp corr for insta corruption and full soul link build. Then u can build NF/SL til 60 then respec for raids or pvp if u wish. There's also another build path u can go like 7/31/13 for some destro talents with SL for better damage and Shadowburn, but again it's up to u Main goal for this *leveling* build is being tanky on t there in azeroth to survive WPVP and ganks. Noone wants to fight a SL warlock lol
shroud not a bad idea. I’m lvl 35 right now with pure affliction...it’s nice but I’m super squishy and can be hard to get by with the constant ganks. I wouldn’t know the difference because it’s my first play through but I can see where the extra beefiness would be reeeally nice right about now.
@@crushjobmedia1451 fel domination and 2/2 master summ is rly nice with sac let bc u get the buff for voidwalker(which is what u should have out for lvling anyway), and then u can basically insta summon it again while u have a big ass shield from it thats 30% stronger via taking 3 points in improved void walker. So u have alot of great survivability mechanics + ur 2/2 improved health stone. I actually went SM/ruin durimg leveling on nostalrius, but it was also a PVE server so I didn't need to be tanky and my gear was great for my lv to the point I could 1v2/3 red mobs, plus I'm a pretty good warlock lol. But I'm gonna be on a pvp server and tbh I wouldn't wanna go full afflic for leveling anyway. I'll be too squishy and who knows how many gankers and pvp-hungry players(like me) will be out there in contested zones
shroud Yeah I get ganked nonstop and find myself with very little ways to fight back. Sure when I get the jump on someone and I’m lucky enough to get all my dots off I can rack up some sweet damage. But if I get ganked I’m 2-3 shot by just about anyone and there isn’t much I can do. I guess I won’t miss siphon life when I’ve got potentially 2 voidwalker shields not to mention the extra shield they get from the demonology talents! I wonder if it’s worth it to respec now at 35 only to respec again into Lifelink at 45?
@@crushjobmedia1451 if your respecs are cheap sure, but I'd also plan out your raid/pvp spec when u hit 60. If u respec now for sl, then again at 60, thats 2 respecs. And if u mess up a point by accident, u can't detract the point and redo it, and you'd literally have to do a whole nother respec just to get that 1 point correct. I'd go Google the vanilla warlock talent trees and mess with the talent points that way u can plan it out and spend the least amount of gold on the least amount of respecs possible
Idk how your VW is holding aggro. Even when taunt it active, +3 talent, wait few seconds until he has aggro and I try just 1 DoT+wand I still get aggro... Now I'm trying the drain tank build.
Little extra tidbit. If you order your voidwalker to stand still and then run away from it you get the soulshard back. Combined with the free voidwalker from the lvl50 trinket this means a free shard every 30 minutes.
Erik Samhammer in the grand scheme of things its a small thing. But it does mean that you can go shardless. When you log in you can pop trinket and run away and get a free shard. And in raid after each boss while people are fighting over loot you can pop the trinket -> run and make an extra shard. The effect of the trinket has nothing to do with the demon its the shard generation it allows that makes the trinket so good.
IRTehDar no it’s actually for DS or Sac use to get VW back right away after using one of those. If your bags not full of shards at all times you’re doing it wrong.
Please note this guide isn't for fast leveling, it's just his take on what he thinks is well rounded. This appears to be a single target guide but most people will be multi target.
@@FreedomFighter08 Joana is still active and is planning on releasing the Alliance version of the guide when the classic beta comes. The guide has been polished and updated through the years. Take a look at www.joanasworld.com/azeroth.htm
The build is awful. This guy is not a pro. No one is using the build or ANYTHING close to it for speed runs. The guide is his own personal preference and is actually a very inefficient build compared to others.
5/5 imp corruption is not even up for debate. you get it asap. also facepalm on skipping nightfall because "you pull aggro" xD by the same logic you shouldn't stack +dmg on gear because you will aggro mobs easier.
Lets say you start your first character in a fresh server, how do you get the enchanting wand at lv5 without help? get lucky with greens to disenchant?
Hey guys, I'm going to be leveling with 2 other people. If we log on and are not in the same layer, what do I have to do to ensure we are in the same layer? Please be detailed in your response. Thanks!
Mike Kovacs if you invite someone to your group you get put into the same layer. if it didnt happen to some streamer im betting the layer jumping cd got in their way.
Mike Kovacs nope. but thats how blizz says it works. could be that they got bugged out. but in that case it should be gone come classic asuming the streamer actually bothered to report it.
The reason everyone else talks about getting spirit gear is because they get imp drain soul, which increases your mana regen by 100%....so more spirit=more mana regen + imp drain soul = x 100% of whatever your spirit mana regen is. You talk about using life tap so much, but I can tell you from experience that with alot of spirit and imp drain soul, I never had to use life tap because my mana regen so well, and I was chain pulling non stop. So full mana at the loss of health or full mana with super fast regen and no loss of health...yeah I know which I will choose.
both end up being win wins if you use them right, i eventually get both because i dont like to use a set rythym. life tap lets you get full mana and do some crazy stuff, then you finish with drain soul, and go grind at normal pace til mana and health is up to par and do something big again. Also I party up as much as possible and that changes everything.
Life Tap however is very flexible. It allows for greater mobility and it can be used in conjunction with Healthstones and Potions. Mobility is one of the key qualities for fast leveling.
I still don't understand how to this day people don't know that spell damage is all you fucking need when leveling. Once a warlock gets siphoned life it's all gravy from there. Stacking stamina and intelligence and spirit doesn't make you kill stuff faster.
thanks for the video, i really need the info, but one suggestion, i'm 2 mins into the video and you're still giving me an introduction which i don't need at all. plz just skip the real video, 10 seconds is about max for any intro before we the views loose interest. otherwise thanks again, i'll keep watching a bit and hope it gets better.
pick up all spells. the end. i will say that the ones you dont really use are: enslave demon, CoW, CoR, Elements, Drain life, drain mana, and CoT. however- you do use them somtimes. CoR is for cancel fear. drain mana va priests pvp (rare more later on), CoT vs casters in pvp (rare usually agony) but good vs caster when you running away, elements very rarely used until higher levels. also rain of fire not used. if you use aoe you go with hellfire. most important are your grimoires for your void walker pet. DONT FORgET TO BUY THESE.
You said you dont get nightfall bdcause shadow bolt pulls aggro. Then you said something about spamming shadow bolt... Lol wtf. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Yikes. Really bad info on the spec guys. Take a drain soul build with lots of spirit, will keep you at 75+% mana with no downtime. Do yourself a favor and invest in a soul bag early and get delete soul shard macro. Incorrect stat priority as well.. Spell Dmg, then spirit, then int, then stam. Youll want to stack spirit for drain soul build. Here is one of the guides to use forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14455&sid=cec730699a3c8782250a7cf0e4c45ba9
the intro is extremely loud but i can barely hear what your voice is saying.
I leveled drain tanking. Never ran out of mana and was generally never in danger unless I was careless. Killed mobs pretty quick to.
41 affliction? with succubus?
Keybind your mouse wheel. Roll wheel forward for pet attack, roll wheel back to you for pet return.
how do you zoom your camera in and out then?
@@Taylor-ip6ek I have it remapped to ctrl+mouse wheel.
I like to keep default zoom but I shift scroll for attack and passive
Or E attack Shift E return
I prefer corruption and suppression first then go into the improved walker tree either way it’s a good choice
Nightfall is hella useful for if you’re on a pvp server just keep that in mind friends.
lock was my first character back in vanilla, played all classes and all expansions, but always kept coming back... its like an addiction:) cant wait for classic
Could be a curse, not an addiction :)
@@zepho100 An amplified curse Xd
It's more of an affliction I'd say ;)
great video and info!
i also have pfui but i dont get numbers on the player/target unitframe debuff icon like corruption/agony etc, wtf
Hello Metagoblin, Do you have an import file for elvui somewhere online? I like the Ui alot. grts
Having issues with all the addons, not compatible
Doesn't
/run PetFollow();
work ?
Great video, thanks Goblin
why fel concentration when you have talent points in ur void walker aggro i dont get it :/
Bro you can’t come out epic as fuck in an intro and then be like “hai guise so this is Minecraft rollercoaster part 2”
What addon is used at 13:23 so you can see how much shadow dmg is applied to the normal dmg, and the modifier in the background
I like the in game examples of how to play. since anyone watching is obviously new. most guides just show slide shows of info they ripped from a website.
An Imp's Request is not currently in Classic WoW. It will be added in Phase 3.
Perfect guide bro! All the best man!
Great guide! How did you make your game look so good in this video? What addons are you using? Would love a video about that!
A bit late but that seems to be Tukui or Elvui.
I played Hunter all through vanilla and TBC but im so tempted to go Warlock this time around
Played rogue up to the release of Cataclysm...playing a warlock this time and it's been a lot of fun so far.
good vid bro. i like the UI. what is it?
link to guide addon doesnt work, anyone have another link?
Where can you get vanillaguide now? Github took it down...
Love the video!
What's the name of the add-on that chances your action bar interface?
It looks like bongos, but that's just my guess.
What addon is showing the spell power in your vid, per spell @13:45?
back in old days we used Drdamage for that but not sure if that is what he uses
Good guide and video, I agree with most of it up until the point where you go into afflic after getting imp void
Note - I'm gonna be on a pvp server for classic so my philosophy is gonna be a little dif for leveling than yours.
I start with 5/5 imp corr, then 2/2 life tap. After that u can go 2 ways to go for imp void immediately: 3/5 demonic embrace and then 2/2 imp health stone, or just 5/5 embrace and then go right into 3/3 imp void.
After that I actually stay in demo tree for a bit longer just to get master summ and then demonic sac. This is where I switch to afflic.
I usually go soul link for leveling as I'm gonna be solo alot of the time, I can duo with a healer friend irl but we won't be able to always level and play together so this is optimized for solo play. And again, it's gonna be on a pvp server so being extra tanky and having demo sac and master summ will be good for those random WPVP scenarios and random ganks, which is also why I'd go 2/2 imp health stone early on. You still get 5/5 demonic embrace anyway but the imp h.s is nice for early levels and everywhere after.
After demo sac I move back into afflic and get 3/5 suppression, 2/2 drain soul, amp curse, 3/3 imp corr. At this point you should be level 45 and then I literally respec to full Soul Link build. I like doing this at 45 bc u can also get 5/5 imp corr for insta corruption and full soul link build. Then u can build NF/SL til 60 then respec for raids or pvp if u wish.
There's also another build path u can go like 7/31/13 for some destro talents with SL for better damage and Shadowburn, but again it's up to u
Main goal for this *leveling* build is being tanky on t there in azeroth to survive WPVP and ganks. Noone wants to fight a SL warlock lol
shroud not a bad idea. I’m lvl 35 right now with pure affliction...it’s nice but I’m super squishy and can be hard to get by with the constant ganks. I wouldn’t know the difference because it’s my first play through but I can see where the extra beefiness would be reeeally nice right about now.
@@crushjobmedia1451 fel domination and 2/2 master summ is rly nice with sac let bc u get the buff for voidwalker(which is what u should have out for lvling anyway), and then u can basically insta summon it again while u have a big ass shield from it thats 30% stronger via taking 3 points in improved void walker. So u have alot of great survivability mechanics + ur 2/2 improved health stone.
I actually went SM/ruin durimg leveling on nostalrius, but it was also a PVE server so I didn't need to be tanky and my gear was great for my lv to the point I could 1v2/3 red mobs, plus I'm a pretty good warlock lol. But I'm gonna be on a pvp server and tbh I wouldn't wanna go full afflic for leveling anyway. I'll be too squishy and who knows how many gankers and pvp-hungry players(like me) will be out there in contested zones
shroud Yeah I get ganked nonstop and find myself with very little ways to fight back. Sure when I get the jump on someone and I’m lucky enough to get all my dots off I can rack up some sweet damage. But if I get ganked I’m 2-3 shot by just about anyone and there isn’t much I can do. I guess I won’t miss siphon life when I’ve got potentially 2 voidwalker shields not to mention the extra shield they get from the demonology talents! I wonder if it’s worth it to respec now at 35 only to respec again into Lifelink at 45?
@@crushjobmedia1451 if your respecs are cheap sure, but I'd also plan out your raid/pvp spec when u hit 60.
If u respec now for sl, then again at 60, thats 2 respecs. And if u mess up a point by accident, u can't detract the point and redo it, and you'd literally have to do a whole nother respec just to get that 1 point correct. I'd go Google the vanilla warlock talent trees and mess with the talent points that way u can plan it out and spend the least amount of gold on the least amount of respecs possible
i would like to try dark pact succubus. it seems interesting.
Vanilla Guide removed due to DMCA Takedown? I am new here, can someone tell me what this is and why I can't find Vanilla Guide. TY Wow fam
The orbs vs staff, staff with wizard oil is better.
using metamap and pf doesn't collide with questie i hope?
I’m Your 1k like muahahah thank you for you great video I’m new to pc very helpful
Couldn't find the add-ons or no longer exist
Idk how your VW is holding aggro. Even when taunt it active, +3 talent, wait few seconds until he has aggro and I try just 1 DoT+wand I still get aggro...
Now I'm trying the drain tank build.
VW sucks dick in classic. It doesn't function compared to private servers. I went drain tank too when I realized this
What’s ur UI addon?
Hey i got a question. Maybe its bad. If my Voidwalker is out of mana, is it more efficient to resummon it?
Late reply! VW shouldn't run out of mana, especially before ~lvl 40. Later on, you need to deactivate his auto-taunt to conserve.
Little extra tidbit. If you order your voidwalker to stand still and then run away from it you get the soulshard back. Combined with the free voidwalker from the lvl50 trinket this means a free shard every 30 minutes.
ohhh that's a good tip. thank you!
Erik Samhammer in the grand scheme of things its a small thing.
But it does mean that you can go shardless. When you log in you can pop trinket and run away and get a free shard. And in raid after each boss while people are fighting over loot you can pop the trinket -> run and make an extra shard.
The effect of the trinket has nothing to do with the demon its the shard generation it allows that makes the trinket so good.
IRTehDar no it’s actually for DS or Sac use to get VW back right away after using one of those. If your bags not full of shards at all times you’re doing it wrong.
How can you not take DS?? SM/DS is actually a pretty good spec
are u planning on making more vanilla leveling guides for the other classes?:)
Possibly mate but im not an expert on every single class. Definitely more vanilla videos soon though
Please note this guide isn't for fast leveling, it's just his take on what he thinks is well rounded. This appears to be a single target guide but most people will be multi target.
isn't vanillaguide a copy of joanas guide for horde but for alliance it's more of approximation? since Joana never finished an alliance guide
@@FreedomFighter08 Joana is still active and is planning on releasing the Alliance version of the guide when the classic beta comes.
The guide has been polished and updated through the years. Take a look at www.joanasworld.com/azeroth.htm
what was the add on taht told you the shado dmg you had ?
wondering the same thing
Great intro
thank you man
Is this the same for Classic?
Whats the addon you use so you can see numbers on your spells?
theorycraft
MetaGoblin Never heard about that addon but thanks alot, good vid btw:).
amazing how pros can still teach us new stuff after over 10 years! amazing!
thanks lad
The build is awful. This guy is not a pro. No one is using the build or ANYTHING close to it for speed runs. The guide is his own personal preference and is actually a very inefficient build compared to others.
5/5 imp corruption is not even up for debate. you get it asap. also facepalm on skipping nightfall because "you pull aggro" xD
by the same logic you shouldn't stack +dmg on gear because you will aggro mobs easier.
It has a lot of sense
Lets say you start your first character in a fresh server, how do you get the enchanting wand at lv5 without help? get lucky with greens to disenchant?
can buy mats from vendor.
i got it at level 6 by using enchanting and tailoring and selling bolts of linen and essence also got lucky with some greens all rng
I went destro for aoe farming +fire damage havnt had any problems leveling
RatsoMan20 what are the talents you run for aoe farming ?
Vanilla guide was taken down
I'm going for all class quests
The macro scripts are "blocked ... only available to the Blizzard UI"
Is it blocked in Cassic or is there a workaround?
Heard that blizzard doesn't allow /run and /script in classic
An add-on to show you when and whete mobs spawn. Might as well just bot to 70
Hey guys, I'm going to be leveling with 2 other people. If we log on and are not in the same layer, what do I have to do to ensure we are in the same layer? Please be detailed in your response. Thanks!
Invite to group.
@@irtehdar2446 it can't be that simple. I watched Kargoz not be in the same group as his group member. Can you explain that? thanks.
Mike Kovacs if you invite someone to your group you get put into the same layer. if it didnt happen to some streamer im betting the layer jumping cd got in their way.
@@irtehdar2446 ok cool. Have you tested this to verify it first hand? Thanks again.
Mike Kovacs nope. but thats how blizz says it works. could be that they got bugged out. but in that case it should be gone come classic asuming the streamer actually bothered to report it.
Music is way too loud.
what ui addons do you use?
pfui
Multi aoe grind is fatstes, just dot up and fear mob then go for next, i used imp and mb after 5-6 mobs. Pure afly way to go
Is this Gothic music?
Where do you find those Addons? Can't find them anywhere
took me 3 minutes to find them all put them into the description lmao
@@MetaGoblin Thanks for the extremely fast response! Unfortunately I'm a complete noob when it comes to vanilla addons...
warlock leveling guide but the first 5 minutes was all about general addons
The reason everyone else talks about getting spirit gear is because they get imp drain soul, which increases your mana regen by 100%....so more spirit=more mana regen + imp drain soul = x 100% of whatever your spirit mana regen is. You talk about using life tap so much, but I can tell you from experience that with alot of spirit and imp drain soul, I never had to use life tap because my mana regen so well, and I was chain pulling non stop. So full mana at the loss of health or full mana with super fast regen and no loss of health...yeah I know which I will choose.
I just find life tap with increased shadow damage to be more efficient. and you also simultaneously massively improve your damage. So it's a win win.
both end up being win wins if you use them right, i eventually get both because i dont like to use a set rythym. life tap lets you get full mana and do some crazy stuff, then you finish with drain soul, and go grind at normal pace til mana and health is up to par and do something big again. Also I party up as much as possible and that changes everything.
Life Tap however is very flexible. It allows for greater mobility and it can be used in conjunction with Healthstones and Potions. Mobility is one of the key qualities for fast leveling.
If you're not leveling as affliction.. you're doing it wrong 😅
i'm not a fan of stacking shadow damage early on on pvp server, int stam is all i need
5 talent points because you let your VW die seems wasted
why wouldyou ever level with voidwalker?
duoleveling is succubus solo is imp dungeons is imp lmao
I still don't understand how to this day people don't know that spell damage is all you fucking need when leveling.
Once a warlock gets siphoned life it's all gravy from there. Stacking stamina and intelligence and spirit doesn't make you kill stuff faster.
All you need to know to level a Warlock: drain tank spec + succ (+ stack shadow wrath gear)
@O K for vanilla succ is better by far
I can't hear a dang thing fix your audio
It doesn't increase curse of agony damage.
stream someday bro
can't stream this ill get banned. But just for you bro I might streaming something tonight.
hey are addons allowed for classic??
AngryKuggi yea of course, addons were around in vanilla they’ll definitely be allowed
@@Jgus92 yes but the old ones wont work.
Weirdest leveling build ever. I get imp lifetap and drainlife right away. Then go deep down demonology. Each to his own I guess
I open with coa ,corruption,immolate,then spam wand
imo imolsate is a little mana hungry
After you get +shadow spell gear, you should not even use immolate
Say it with ya chest naga
38 second intro was 33 seconds too long
Great video until you said ‘siffon life’. Really?
thanks for the video, i really need the info, but one suggestion, i'm 2 mins into the video and you're still giving me an introduction which i don't need at all. plz just skip the real video, 10 seconds is about max for any intro before we the views loose interest. otherwise thanks again, i'll keep watching a bit and hope it gets better.
pick up all spells. the end.
i will say that the ones you dont really use are:
enslave demon, CoW, CoR, Elements, Drain life, drain mana, and CoT.
however- you do use them somtimes. CoR is for cancel fear. drain mana va priests pvp (rare more later on), CoT vs casters in pvp (rare usually agony) but good vs caster when you running away, elements very rarely used until higher levels. also rain of fire not used. if you use aoe you go with hellfire.
most important are your grimoires for your void walker pet. DONT FORgET TO BUY THESE.
If you don't want to get ganked to death then you'd pick up Soul link.
You said you dont get nightfall bdcause shadow bolt pulls aggro. Then you said something about spamming shadow bolt... Lol wtf. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Lol "I only put on two dots then wand" lol "drain soul isnt worth it"
Lol!!!!!! Newb af warlock bro
Please speak louder, I can hardly hear you.
Please turn the volume up on your computer.
that's what volume is for
And the guide was ok. Personally your talent choices are trash. But everyone has their preferences.
Wtf u don’t do instant shadow bolt??? Bro delete this video right now, would say delete ur toon but that’s a little harsh lol
Matthew Eck game is trash lol, glad I quit
Omg another badass interface covering 90% of the screen ... Get me out please i just want simple vanilla fun ...
Yikes. Really bad info on the spec guys. Take a drain soul build with lots of spirit, will keep you at 75+% mana with no downtime. Do yourself a favor and invest in a soul bag early and get delete soul shard macro.
Incorrect stat priority as well.. Spell Dmg, then spirit, then int, then stam. Youll want to stack spirit for drain soul build.
Here is one of the guides to use
forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14455&sid=cec730699a3c8782250a7cf0e4c45ba9