Hi there, glad you found it useful. In place families can be difficult to schedule as they do not have a length reporting parameter by default. If you select your skirting boards after modelling you can see that they do have a Volume parameter. Using the volume parameter you can create a calculated value column in your schedules to get the length. Use Volume/X (X= cross section area of the skirting boards profile - draft over it in section with a region and it will give the CSA) and you wil be left with the length per profile reporting in your schedule. I hope this is clear and understandable - let me know how you progress with it! Niall
Sorry, forgot to mention this in the above - if you matched my video's modelling process you need to use a Generic Model Family schedule as the base schedule prior to my tip above. Niall
Could you use this same method to create wall tile that only went halfway up a wall? Say in a toilet room that had tile on all four walls, or in a shower?
Hi Charles. While the answer is technically yes, I would look into stacked wall modelling for this function perhaps. YOu may even want to add a smaller inner wall of just the tile finish to make things simple (you can use the join command btween the "tile wall" and the main wall so that the primary opes for windows, doors etc cut out and automatically update when said elements are moved). The latter may also make material reprting for finishes schedule / qantity take off a little mroe straightforward too. Let me know how you get on with it and what your final method of developing the part wall finish is. Niall
Another issue with wall sweep is that you can't generate the quantity of it by floor, which is a bit annoying as I had to copy each floor to a separate file to get the quantity (length) by floor.
Absolutely. Generally you have to utilise the Room Parameters to give a perimeter value, but then it doesn't account for door opes etc so it is problematic for sure. Niall
After wrestling with wall swept skirtings yesterday for hours (for the reasons mentioned here), I resigned to the fact that there had to be a better way. This is also what I came up with. Wall sweep behaviour is a PITA and this is a massive "workaround" that shouldn't be necessary at all (but sadly is) Revit 2020.2 (April-2020)
Agree totally David, at this point in the Revit development such a requirement for modelling skirting like this seems very archaic, but again remains a necessity due to lack of other viable (and properly parametric) options - wall sweeps cause a huge amount of frustration because they ignore bounding conditions of perpendicular walls and continue along a single wall length, regardless of intersecting geometry ; this means you have to break Continuous walls for each room they are bounding which does not make intuitive sense from the constructability perspective. I would be of the opinion that you should be able to select the base boundary of a Room and select a skirting profile to be assigned to that room, breaking at openings. Meaning any expanse or change in the room footprint would be caught and the perimeter length would always be automatically calculated, something that the method I have outlined can't accommodate. I have toyed with placement of skirting boards in this manner via Dynamo but it really shouldn't be necessary (and is frankly overkill for smaller projects). Thanks for checking out the video anyway David, keep the dialogue open and if a better alternative arises I will make sure to cover it. All the best, Niall
Other software like cohoom got it right on molding placement, they use room boundary as their molding line (base, mid and top). Resulting in parametric molding that is super fast to apply and intuitive.
Hi Ratnam, thanks for getting in touch. Scheduling these can be tricky. I have a brief explanation of this on one of my replies on the previous comments. Check it out and let me know if you have any other questions you need answered. Niall
This was really great thank you
Excellent tutorial - clear, concise & subscribable
Thanks for the feedback Will, greatly appreciated.
Niall
how do you schedule the length?
Excellent turorial
Thanks so much for this guide :D
No problem Kenneth, hope you found it helpful 👍
Great solution for modeling skirting. How can you then schedule this?? Meaning total length per profile..
Hi there, glad you found it useful.
In place families can be difficult to schedule as they do not have a length reporting parameter by default. If you select your skirting boards after modelling you can see that they do have a Volume parameter. Using the volume parameter you can create a calculated value column in your schedules to get the length.
Use Volume/X (X= cross section area of the skirting boards profile - draft over it in section with a region and it will give the CSA) and you wil be left with the length per profile reporting in your schedule.
I hope this is clear and understandable - let me know how you progress with it!
Niall
Sorry, forgot to mention this in the above - if you matched my video's modelling process you need to use a Generic Model Family schedule as the base schedule prior to my tip above.
Niall
@@8020BIM I tried it and it worked. Thank you very much!
Could you use this same method to create wall tile that only went halfway up a wall? Say in a toilet room that had tile on all four walls, or in a shower?
Hi Charles. While the answer is technically yes, I would look into stacked wall modelling for this function perhaps. YOu may even want to add a smaller inner wall of just the tile finish to make things simple (you can use the join command btween the "tile wall" and the main wall so that the primary opes for windows, doors etc cut out and automatically update when said elements are moved). The latter may also make material reprting for finishes schedule / qantity take off a little mroe straightforward too.
Let me know how you get on with it and what your final method of developing the part wall finish is.
Niall
@@8020BIM Thanks, I will. Thanks for the great videos.
@@charlesball9522 You are most welcome. If you need any guidance and have a suggestion for a tutorial topic please let me know. All the best,
Niall
Another issue with wall sweep is that you can't generate the quantity of it by floor, which is a bit annoying as I had to copy each floor to a separate file to get the quantity (length) by floor.
Absolutely. Generally you have to utilise the Room Parameters to give a perimeter value, but then it doesn't account for door opes etc so it is problematic for sure.
Niall
After wrestling with wall swept skirtings yesterday for hours (for the reasons mentioned here), I resigned to the fact that there had to be a better way. This is also what I came up with. Wall sweep behaviour is a PITA and this is a massive "workaround" that shouldn't be necessary at all (but sadly is) Revit 2020.2 (April-2020)
Agree totally David, at this point in the Revit development such a requirement for modelling skirting like this seems very archaic, but again remains a necessity due to lack of other viable (and properly parametric) options - wall sweeps cause a huge amount of frustration because they ignore bounding conditions of perpendicular walls and continue along a single wall length, regardless of intersecting geometry ; this means you have to break Continuous walls for each room they are bounding which does not make intuitive sense from the constructability perspective. I would be of the opinion that you should be able to select the base boundary of a Room and select a skirting profile to be assigned to that room, breaking at openings. Meaning any expanse or change in the room footprint would be caught and the perimeter length would always be automatically calculated, something that the method I have outlined can't accommodate. I have toyed with placement of skirting boards in this manner via Dynamo but it really shouldn't be necessary (and is frankly overkill for smaller projects).
Thanks for checking out the video anyway David, keep the dialogue open and if a better alternative arises I will make sure to cover it. All the best,
Niall
Other software like cohoom got it right on molding placement, they use room boundary as their molding line (base, mid and top). Resulting in parametric molding that is super fast to apply and intuitive.
How we get total length in scheduling
Hi Ratnam, thanks for getting in touch. Scheduling these can be tricky. I have a brief explanation of this on one of my replies on the previous comments. Check it out and let me know if you have any other questions you need answered.
Niall
@@8020BIM ok sir thanku❤️
@@8020BIM sir how to find c/s area for that coving?