I was working for the city of Denton County, Texas with an old man who seemed to have the keys to every city building to pick up and drop off various things including recycling. One was a storage building for the city. A 20k Sqft warehouse full of unused computers, vehicles, and even boats, and thousands of wet floor signs, owned by the Denton County school district and the caretaker of the property told me how they buy that stuff every year with the sole purpose of using the entire budget, so they can ask for more next year. If they didn't spend the entire budget, then next year they would give them a smaller budget. Then the Sherriff auctions it all off and they make even more money. That money goes directly to the city. It's almost sounds like racketeering... The problem isn’t funding, it’s allocation and corruption. I'm sure it's a similar issue in a lot of counties.
When a government organization, or government funded organization, has to spend all of it's allocated money to get the same or more the following year, it's just going to create more waste and abuse like you said. Unfortunately, that's how the system is set up. Until it's changed, for the better, it's only going to get worse!
I guess you could say they had a BOAT LOAD of cash left over to spend. Get it? Because of the boats. I bet that "caretaker" was probably just a thief who had been collecting all that junk to satisfy his urges to be a cleptomaniac. And to think you fell for his story lmao.
@@Allangulon Don't just blame the Democrats. Republicans aren't much better. Both parties have far too many whose loyalties only serve those with the best campaign contributions.
@@uncaboat2399 But it's primarily blue states that under perform while asking for more money! Red states are somewhat more transparent and responsible as to where the money is being spent!
Interesting, my mom taught me and my brother to read before we started school, and it only cost her a set of "hooked on phonics" books. Mind, that was back in the 70s, so that stuff is I'm sure available online for free now...
Yep! My 5 year old was reading already by 4 years old. We just made sure to read a book a day at minimum and made sure he wasn't watching garbage on the TV. He watched plenty of TH-cam but we just made sure it was educational and not mindless lights flashing. All free! We homeschool him now because he would be bored in school.
Hell yeah, my parents had a phonics card game that they played with me and my brothers when we were young. Don't really remember learning how to read anything in school, it was all that game and my mom reading books to me before bed.
Eh, I learned to read by age 3, and read well enough to mostly read TIME articles about the space program with minimal help by age 5, and we didn't have anything like hooked on phonics. Meanwhile, my daughter just wasn't interested, so could barely read by kindergarten, but within a couple months, was reading quite well, and is now well ahead of her grade level (3). That's common practice in the Ukraine, according to an immigrant who married into my wife's family, and pretty much all of the kids learn to read well enough within 2 months. Ukraine has one of the world's highest adult literacy rates, too.
My kids both could resite all of the abc's, all the basic colors, and count to 20 before they were 3 years old.. and that was just by letting them watch a few educational vids on youtube for free.
I taught all three of my kids to read....with zero training other than a quick trip to the library. There is no excuse. And it's free. In 1800, the U.S. colonies had a 98% literacy rate among their English-speaking people. The kids aren't dumb. We have a lazy population that is hateful towards their kids.
The problem is like what we are seeing on the streets. The homeless were kicked out and thrown into the streets. This population is growing. In education the classes got bigger, less people are going into the field, and students are not just struggling with reading but with trauma. Yet teachers beg for smaller class sizes and the Powers that be keep filling up the classes. Kids are not all coming from places where parents read to them. Teachers are also tasked to parent while trying to teach.
Really the only purpose of government schooling is to mold children into obedient drones and part of the statist hivemind. Compulsory government schooling was invented during the industrial revolution in the authoritarian German state of Prussia to be good soldiers and factory workers.
In 1800 the states were not colonies. No literacy statistics were collected until the 1840 census. At that time, literacy was 91.5% among white people. "Literate" had a very broad definition then.
I recommend everyone to watch School Inc, the documentary has some very good insights on how people on other countries are doing better, despite the government, not because of it.
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 Do they teach Howard Zinn, Robin DiAngelo, Rebecca Solni, Jessica Valenti? Because that's what's in the public schools here. Then we have Common Core math. 🤦🏻♂️ (It's doable but good gawd is it obnoxiously complicated and teachers often find themselves messing up on it. I've even seen the steps lead to the wrong solution.)
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 Science? And is that only one sided too or do they teach macro-evolutionism along side creation science as a matter of being fair and unbiased towards one side or another? Because I think that all that 4th wave feminism and CRT should be allowed to be taught in a fair and unbiased forum even though I think that they're toxic ideologies predicated on historical revisionism and the destruction of western civilization.
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 I think science teachers shouldn't discuss the topics on macro-evolution or creation science unless the topic of the class is specifically something like "Where did we come from?" Or "Theoretical Origins #" Personally, I want individuals making up their own minds on what they believe. I have seen some really high quality science education material out there when it isn't bogged down by either side of that but I find it's always too biased otherwise.
@@LovingPrinceTamayuki _I think science teachers shouldn't discuss the topics on macro-evolution_ so ... you think science teachers should *not* discuss science? and I suppose math teachers should steer clear of any controversies involving algebra?
@@uncaboat2399 funny how you left out how I said "macro-evolution or creation science" (and even proceeded to give an example of where it could be discussed instead of bogging everything down with meaningless controversial infighting.) But I suppose your option is fair too, to teach both macroevolution and creation science as true science and let the students figure out later that scientists disagree on that topic.
Abolish school districts. Leave schools to govern themselves. All the money is absorbed by school districts. Give money to schools individually and cut the middle men.
the big thing is to let parents decide which school to go to. Too many places, the choice of school is made for you based on where you live. Sometimes a better school is across the street, but you can't go there coz you live on the wrong side of some arbitrary line. Let parents choose which schools they want, and schools will have to improve to keep from losing customers.
@@uncaboat2399 How do you solve who then gets in to the best school. I thin it might work that lower income family children will get higher priority and higher income family children will have to scratch for the worst
@@finlanderxx if we abolish the federal school system, small schools can pop up everywhere. Parents will have more choice than ever before, and teachers would be paid more than double what they earn now, all while abolishing the property taxes that rob people for government "schools".
Just give the money to parents and tell them they must spend 70% of it on school and can use the other 30% for private lessons. Willl cause private schools to appear.
We homeschool 4 kids for easily less than 5k a year , and I know what they’re being taught. and I don’t have worry about the teacher trying to explain their sexuality to my kids. Win-win
We homeschool three with crappy to no wifi. We spent way more money when they went to a brick and mortar school than we do now. My kids went to a private school but the money I am talking about is not the tuition it is the amount of money we had to spend on supplies throughout the year . Teachers told us what we had to buy and the supplies were kept at the school so we had to buy more for home. Then we would be hit up all year for fundraisers and kids who didn't sell enough would be shamed. Every single meeting of the PTA was about money for the school. That is all .
@@ic8575 good point ... more of us need to remind more people of these truths, and not just sit around watching the world get ruined a little at a time.
@@somercet1 All libertarians are, are non extortionists. Seems fairly basic. Maybe the dumb people are the ones rooting for extortion and monetary manipulation.
They are busy teaching intesectionalism, equality and such divisive stuff like that. They have too many crappy students. bad genes. bad home environment. No respect for education. Money cannot change that.
@@theBear89451there is a correlation between wealth and student success. How do we know it’s a causal relationship? Could it be that the involvement in their children’s education or expectations is different on average with wealthier parents?
The full text of Rep. Tom Massie's recent House bill: SECTION 1. TERMINATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. The Department of Education shall terminate on December 31, 2022.
You clearly don’t recognize the consequences of that. Since you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you, I recommend you do your own research into what all the department of education does.
Given an instructor who knows the material, and a prepared and motivated student, you can teach quantum mechanics with a blackboard and chalk. We did for decades.
Okay Boomer- My closest sister is a quantum computing researcher and I can say with confidence that this perspective is laughable. Just because you *can* do something badly doesn't mean you should. A lesson most k-12 schools have failed to learn. Yours is a perspective which is critically underinformed in how much time can be saved with computer assistance and a less hierarchical teacher-student dynamic.
@@Ruby_V_ The schools don’t teach the basics _now_. Anyone with an IQ over 70 should be able to read. We have college graduates who struggle to decode the words on the page. There’s nothing wrong with their intelligence. They weren’t taught to read properly. Anyone should be able to hear the text when they look at it. The educational establishment discarded known, reliable, reading instruction methods, for various reasons. Phonetic reading instruction doesn’t need fancy equipment. It merely needs time and repetition. Understanding the material is a separate issue.
@@bwake You have so many misconceptions about what reading level means and the current and past state of it. It's really just a measure of how big of sentences and words the average reader has the patience for. It has very little to do with being able to vocalize a text. Even at the 4th grade level, being able to phonetically vocalize a text is considered such a given that it isn't even mentioned in the criteria for having a 'basic reading level', "Fourth-grade students performing at the NAEP Basic level should be able to locate relevant information, make simple inferences, and use their understanding of the text to identify details that support a given interpretation or conclusion. Students should be able to interpret the meaning of a word as it is used in the text." And "The Educational Establishment" really has changed a laughably small amount over time, and this is reflected in the stagnant average reading level scores. Like here is a big ugly link to a chart to show you how, using the exact same measure since 1992, reading levels have basically stayed the same. And feel free to explore the data more granually to convince yourself. Schools don't change because school districts and institutions are extremely, inflexibly conservative, changing/innovating as little as possible and using political tricks to squeeze more capital into the administrators' pockets. www.nationsreportcard.gov/ndecore/shareredirect?su=NDE&sb=RED&gr=8&fr=2&yr=2019R3-2017R3-2015R3-2013R3-2011R3-2009R3-2007R3-2005R3-2003R3-2002R3-1998R3-1998R2-1994R2-1992R2&sc=RRPCM&ju=NT-NP-NR-NL&vr=TOTAL-false&st=MN-MN--ALC-BB-AB-AP-AD&sht=OUTPUT&urls=xplore&sm=false&sj=false-NT--false-NP--false-NR--false-NL&sy=2019R3-2017R3-2015R3-2013R3-2011R3-2009R3-2007R3-2005R3-2003R3-2002R3-1998R3-1998R2-1994R2-1992R2&ss=MN-MN&chl=Data%20Chart%201&chgb=None%7CNone%7Cfalse%7C1&chv=Jurisdiction%7CJurisdiction%7Cfalse%7C2&cht=LineChart&chs=TOTAL%7CAll%20students%7C1&rrl=SAMPLE%7CSAMPLE%7C1--JURISDICTION%7CJURISDICTION%7C2--TOTAL%7CVARIABLE%7C3&rtl=&cut=DATACHART&opt=LINE
@@Ruby_V_ _You_ are talking about reading _comprehension_, which nobody can guarantee. The schools don’t teach the basics. People get the reading equivalent of boggling on 6X7 in the middle of an algebra problem. Reading is a skill, independent of comprehension.
As a retired teacher, underfunding is a myth created to explain the lack of student achievement. If a child is failing to learn, it comes down to one of two possibilities. One is high absences and the other is a need for an Individual Education Plan (IEP).
I remember being in public school in Canada. I miss being taught English by a recent Romanian immigrant who couldn't really speak English. I remember the science and math teachers who left halfway through the year on their sabbaticals and being replaced by a rotation of even more unqualified teachers. I remember all the teachers who complained about funding yet refused to use the new whiteboards. I remember my 12th grade biology professor would always say that fossil fuels should be abolished and that same professor spent more time flirting with the boys in the class than actually teaching. Those who survived public schools know how trash it is. It's the same problem everywhere nowadays, even the excellent teachers are dragged down by the administrators and parents of troubled kids.
I went to public school in Canada too. All my teachers were great - my math and science teachers all had bachelor degrees from university in related fields, and my political science teacher was a huge vocal fan of Bill O'Reilly (he was originally from Buffalo so more into American politics). Outcomes for the students I went to school with have been very good. It wasn't perfect in every way - the building was overcrowded which only got worse until a few years later the built a brand new school. You still had all the typical stuff you deal with in school too - drugs, kids growing up and not knowing better than being assholes to each other, teen pregnancy etc - but based on my overall experience I've always felt pretty confident that public schools are the best system - because the rich kids I knew and the poor kids were both getting a more equal opportunity at education - granted the overall wealth of the area the school served was relatively high.
@@ic8575 What province? Quebec public schools are crap, especially on the east end and north end of Montreal. West Island is better because it's much more affluent, but still all the rich kids went to private schools. I was lucky to be in a program called sport etudes so I didn't interact with the regular programs but if we had the best crop of teachers, I can imagine just how bad it was for the rest of the school.
My mother went to Catholic grammar school in the 1930's. She said at times there could have been 80 children in a class. In the 1960s there were 50 in each class at the Catholic school that I attended. Even the dull children learned to read. They made each student read out loud to the others which may have shamed some to spend more time in their books. In the late 60's at the Parochial HS that I attended which required an entrance exam there were 42 students in every class. I once read in a George Will column from late last century that the public school system in Washington DC had 1700 times more administration employees than the Catholic school system in the same city despite having only 3 times as many students. Couldn't possibly make this up if you wanted to.
It's not just teachers' salaries. It is the administrative costs, the cost of the building, the real estate, the electricity, the heating, the furniture, the maintenance, and all sorts of expenses that accumulate. Even though the teacher is the one providing the substance we are supposedly paying for, the teacher's salary is a drop in the bucket compared to the total expense of running a school.
@@carultch It's a lot of bloat. If you watch the video and read the article it references, you will see that spending has increased dramatically, but results have not. So for $300,000 I'm sure I could find some space to rent to teach 10 students a year and pocket the bulk of that money.
@@carultch Just stop at the administrative costs. The other things are tiny in comparison. The administrators make more than the teachers, and some of the larger districts have more administrators than teachers. Further, you can not have a school _without_ the costs of the building, electricity, etc., but there *_is_* an argument we *_can_* do without most of the administrators.
@@carultch In other industries, all that administrative kind of overhead typically runs around 100% of salaries. But teacher salaries are dramatically less than half the cost, because it's a giant single-provider organization with perverse incentives.
You should look at Greenport, NY. It’s insane that they are spending over 26 million on a district with under 300 students. Best part? They wanted to spend 32 Million.
The problem is the cost of housing in New York City. Those teachers can't afford to rent in their community. They are required to commute to the community they teach in.
You are paying for the privilege of hopefully not living in a country full of uneducated people. That's why childless people have to pay for education of kids they do not have.
@@carultch If you think the system we have now is doing an adequate job of preventing the problem you describe, you haven't been paying attention to the numerous Reason TV videos on the subject of education in America. Furthermore, the near monopoly of a one-size-fits-all public school system sets up a situation where people of differing educational philosophies will be constantly fighting over what that one size should be.
@@chrismiller5198 That's why I put the word "hopefully" in my comment. I know it isn't preventing the problem, but imagine how much worse it could be if over half the population didn't even attend school, due to parents who couldn't afford it .
@@carultch But even more basic is the libertarian principle that it is morally wrong to attempt to achieve even a laudable social goal through the use of force. Those who wish to support the public schools are totally free to do that voluntarily. They, however don't have the right to advocate that anyone should be forced to pay.
Beyond just just school choice, give full tax refunds for those who home school or no school their kids. I could do a heck of a lot better for my family if I could cut my taxes by 30k.
How does increasing wages likewise increase the hours in a day? As a taxpayer, I’ve given every benefit of the doubt to teachers in the past and voted for raises, etc. with no change in results. Tired of the b.s.
There’s a reason I want to homeschool my children when I have them. Most of the greatest minds did not go through a public education system. Throwing money at a problem fixes nothing.
Local school district spends 800,000 a year on a biomass heat and power plant that displaces $200,000/ year. It's second worst district in Alaska, and that shows why. They spend the money on "special" projects and not on actual education.
Out of the top five professions of people who retire as millionaires, teachers are number three. First two are engineers, and accountants. Doctors are sixth.
Nys(L)ut won't stop until they get 100% property tax rate from you. I remember union members complaining about getting only 150k/yr... When the community had a median income of about $24k.
Never understood how it's always "funding". A teacher who can't teach won't be a better teacher with more pay unless they're admitting that they're only doing what they think they're getting paid to do.
That because you take them at their word that they're trying to educate children rather than grift for money. I can understand why a conman wants more of my money, can you?
@@Gary_oldmans_left_nut There is no correlation between class size and outcome. Big class, small class, it makes no difference. What's important is the work ethic of the kid and the attitude of the parents. All the money in the world won't change that.
I have always disliked politicians supporting specialized pay raises for state and municipal employees, as if teachers deserve more of a raise than police officers. Whether the employee is a secretary, a teacher, or a fireman, no one is more precious to the "common good" than the other.
The only way to know how much we should spend in education is with a free market on education. Any coercive force in it will distort information and drive prices towards the will of a few (the coerces) rather than everyone.
Creating a profit motive to educate kids, where the already richest people get access to best education and the poor simply get nothing. Genius! Sounds like you are a product of this system
@@joela.4058 Given that the Weimar educational is highly socialist, aimed at creating slogan-driven, state-submited individual, it seems I am not the one that is a product of this system. But just out of curiosity: What's your suggestion?
No matter what you do some people will value education higher than others. There will always be a gap between those who read books and those who don't, those who study their math, science and history and those who don't. It doesn't matter how much money someone spends on you, it matters how you spend your time and your attitude towards learning. There are a lot of uneducated intelligent people and many many more educated idiots.
Schools cannot fix the anti intellectualism of modern popular culture. I asked one of my college students what kinds of books she liked to read. She looked shocked and offended as she told me she had NEVER read a book. Schools may be awful, but even good teachers can’t overcome student apathy toward the importance of learning.
It costs approximately $21, 000 to teach one student k through 12. I just wish they'd make it so that that money follows one specific student instead of just throwing it into a giant pot. There would be way more school choice if that was an option.
Frankly, the ability to read beginning at an early age begins at home. If a child is behind when they enter kindergarten, it is difficult for them to catch up without some support at home.
It's funny at how much taxes we pay and our school district gets like a billion each year but it's still not enough. They should be asking where the money is allocated vs increasing taxes
There is a fundamental flaw in the argument for this video. The reason why charter schools succeed is because they are filled with kids that have parents that care about their education. A child's education strongly depends on the home environment. Parents that are absent or uninterested in their children's education give the children no reason to succeed. This is often manifested by behavioral problems and learning impairments that can be insurmountable obstacles for teachers to overcome. Most teachers can only hope to maintain classroom control when their roster has several of these sorts in a room of 20 to 25 students. I'm a parent of a teenager in public school that excels academically, and I know the only reason for this is because I would never have settled for him to have not done his best or to get failing grades. Kids from bad homes can be unteachable, the public school is not equipped, nor capable of raising these children, their job is only to teach them.
Back in the 50's and 60's in our small-town Indiana school, most 6th. grade students read at grade levels above national average, I read at a junior in college level. What is the difference? Books, people don't read or write anymore, they spend too much time with their faces in one screen or another, while we spent that time in the library.
To parents: turn off all electronics and take away the phone for at least one hour a day, every day from kindergarten to finishing high school and have your kids read and do math. This is what a good parent does. Bad parents don’t care.
I bet that if the state of NY paid parents $30k if their kids could read/pass whatever test was necessary by the end of the year, you could probably take it to the bank that parents would have their kids reading and passing tests by the end of that year - no teachers required.
$3O,OOO per pupil in NY Public Schools. What a racket. Who is really getting this money? It probably isn't the students. It's most likely going to administrators, outside consultants, teacher's unions, and a plethora of other experts and officials. They need vouchers, vouchers everywhere not vultures.
Almost everything experiences severe deflation in our technological revolution except for three things... Real estate, education, and Healthcare. The three most government-involved industries.
Yep. The poorer the students' performance, the more money they request. Easy to see where this leads. Ought to tie pay to students' performance increases. No increase, no pay. Why do we keep paying for ineffective teaching?
Well I agree, 30k is shit for pay. So, raise the pay, but get rid of tenure. Make teachers competitive and work for their pay raises. Oh, and get rid of teacher's unions. Useless.
My big awakening to this was when I was at a school budget meeting once and they showed they were buying pencils for $1.247 (per pencil) but in the line item they had rounded to $1.24 (per pencil) and not to $1.25 (per pencil); and I’m thinking that’s not right you need to round up when it comes to money so you don’t get screwed by that $0.007. Then I was home from college and someone came up to me and my dad and said we need to vote yes to give the schools more money bc they need it to finish the water pipes at the high school I just graduated from; which made me think did they have us in an area that wasn’t habitable for kids or did they just wanted more money and using that as an excuse to get it. Back then I was naive and would have been ok it a price increase had they been honest and I agree with the reason, but to be lied to I dig in my heels and have ever since.
Because numbers are fun. Average school size is 527 students. Most states require at least 180 school days per year. That is enough pencils to give every student a new pencil every day.
$1.25 per pencil?! I buy my kid pretty good pencils like cedar Ticonderoga and Papermate Mirado Black Warrior. Those go for $0.23-0.30 per pencil. I can buy a 150-pack of serviceable Amazon Basics or other generic pencils for $10-15. How the hell can a school buying in bulk not do better than me ordering from Amazon? $1.25 is the price for too-good-for-school-kids pencils like Tombow MONO soft lead or imported Japanese pencils (great for crosswords on soft paper, BTW)!
@@techhelpportal7778 😆. Fair. One of my comments seems to have not posted. Probably got scrubbed as spam. Had website and dollar signs in it. Found a place you can get 100k pencils for about 1 cent each.
I dated a school teacher who taught high school just north of LA last year and from my experience school teachers are grossly OVERPAID. She had plenty of expendable income available to travel internationally, eat out all the time and buy Dior bags but she would still feel me that she was underpaid. She refused to teach summer school/Saturday school/detention or chaperone school dances because, in her words, that was for "losers".
Parents read to your children as babies. Teach them hand sign and sight words. My son was reading sight words at 18 months by himself and reading fully by 3 years old. Families need to start taking some responsibility for the children themselves and teach them better.
Sign language for kids without deaf relatives or neighbors is one of those fads that parents pick up without any evidence that it is a good idea. Remember Baby Mozart? My niece and nephew were speaking in short, but complete sentences at 18 months, their own oldest were taught using hand gestures as well. The oldest 2 were not speaking clearly or with full sentences at age 2. Their younger kids are both using sentences and speak well at the same ages after I convinced them to drop the hand gestures. Don't experiment on your kids without a good reason, fads are not a good reason.
As a North Carolinian I graduated a few years ago from a fine public school which was properly managed. Meanwhile other schools fail with more resources and people assume that my education was bad because "NC schools don't have money"
The price tag goes up while the expectations placed on parents also goes up. When I was in school, teachers taught us to read. If I were to put any of my children in school now, they need to know how to read before being enrolled. Couple that with the insane amounts of homework and parents don't seem to realize they're just homeschooling their kids after work hours and being taxed for babysitters during the day.
I went to high school in the nineties, in California. The principal of my high school had four secretaries, not counting other front office personel. Also, the high school had three vice principals and each of them had, at least, one secretary. Administration eats up all the funding.
I was a student in NYC elementary, middle, and high schools in the 2000s. It was child abuse. I was taught almost nothing, it was a prison and I knew it. Everyone knew it, all you had to do was look at the room full of students who didn't want to be there but were legally required to, at the bars in the windows to prevent escape, and at the uniformed security guards patrolling the big ugly buildings to make sure students didn't leave before they were supposed to. I can't speak for everyone, but there is no doubt that I would have been far better off on my own with an apartment and a library card. I should have skipped school and applied to a local community college instead. I'm sure it would have been better for me, even though the local community college options are poor. At least they were teaching actual skills, to students who wanted to learn, and would match students with what they desired or needed to learn. K-12 schoolwork was essentially busywork and we were graded on obedience. If you weren't one of the least intelligent children, you were neglected and didn't benefit from the lessons teaching to woefully inadequate minimum standards. I'm not anti-school. Some private schools offer tremendous resources and educational guidance to their students, and have student bodies motivated to excel. Good schools don't have to be expensive, as some charter schools are producing results far superior to public schools and comparable to private schools at budgets less than public or private.
I mostly agree with what you’re saying. At the very least, you would expect that an educational institution would cultivate leisure time for recreational reading rather than making everything a group activity and a chore with such a punitive atmosphere. But the fact remains that the bottom two/thirds of the population in terms of intelligence really needs skills training which are mostly manual in nature, and not this rote book learning crap shoved down everyone’s gullet en masse.
@@marcmeinzer8859 I completely agree that most of the most important classes are the ones that have been devalued removed from schools: home economics, civics, health, manual skills like wood or machine shop and gardening, and career skills. The only instruction of such value they still teach is reading, writing, and arithmetic, and that's only taught in the first three grades. Most everything taught after that seems to go in one ear and out the other for most students, who never use it. History is still taught, but extremely poorly and you cannot expect an American high school graduate to know the basics of world history. Nor even a college graduate these days. The most important thing to teach children is how to function as an adults. Schools don't teach this. And unfortunately, it cannot be assumed that students will learn what they need outside of school under the care of a competent parent. Besides basic knowledge and good values, children should reach adulthood knowing how to take care of themselves in adulthood, and ideally reaching maturity with skills to be employable in a decent career. They could go on to do anything else, but ideally kids should gain competency in a decent trade so that they'll always be able to provide for themselves. And they need to know how to take care of themselves in the world, financially, socially, physically, and in every other way that can be reasonably taught. None of this is taught in schools. Kids sit around memorizing advanced math skills they'll never use and will immediately forget. Teach that to engineering and mathematics majors. Students graduate high school completely unemployable with no useful skills and no idea how to get a job, pay taxes, provide food and shelter for themselves, and function socially.
@@Paelorian I completely agreed with everything you say. Putting all one’s eggs in the basket of being admitted to an elite university to presumably learn marketable skills like electrical engineering to go make a killing starting a tech company is unrealistic in the sense that you could get pigeonholed into a corner where it’s not working for you, then you’ll be forced to regress to for instance being an electrician installing things or what have you. Everybody needs to have a fall back position when the upper middle class pipe-dream proves to be an illusion. Since I disliked student teaching I enlisted in the navy to learn marine navigation as a submarine quartermaster then obtained the basic merchant mariner’s document, or Z card upon discharge from the Coast Guard where I was sworn in as a merchant mariner making me eligible to join the union[s] to ship out. Then subsequently after getting upgraded to able bodied seaman & lifeboatman at a maritime academy I was able to join, in succession, the Great Lakes Sailors Union, or United Steel Workers Local #5,000 then the Seafarers International Union and then also the National Maritime Union. When I got fed up with living on ships I went to barber college. Somewhere in the middle I attended both truck driver’s school and forklift operators school with the military sealift command since they have forklifts aboard roll on/roll off vehicle carrying ships with the giant loading ramps. To me management work such as teaching school is a bunch of political nonsense. In other words I have no interest in supervising people if I cannot get them flunked out or expelled, in the case of useless students, or fired, in the case of useless staff. Supervising useless people is nothing but babysitting. I would prefer to do haircuts all day at $60 per hour when busy rather than putting up with annoying lazy and disagreeable kids or asshole adults. As a barber shop owner you simply refuse to wait on the assholes or call the police if they threaten you. As a shopkeeper you’re also allowed to have firearms. People like school teachers get assaulted and then to make it worse the douchebag administrators blame it on the teachers and ask them to resign if they were forced to punch out some violently assaultive 17 year old juvenile delinquent on probation who’s on the stupid football team and thinks he can wander the halls sexually molesting the school girls.
I have been teaching for over 25 year and I can tell you that its not about money. Its not even really about the teachers. Its about the kids and the parents.
Absolutely. Intelligence is 80% hereditary. If there are no books in the home then the kids won’t read. And the average adult has only a sixth grade reading level. The bottom two/thirds of the kids cognitively need manual skills training overwhelmingly in preference to all this phony liberal arts crap presented mostly in picture books with a low print area for Christ’s sake. They’ve got to be kidding. The average person with a dull normal IQ of 100 doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of making it through college. So what happened to all of the industrial arts and trades training such as auto mechanics, culinary arts, or really anything that a normal person could do to earn a living? And furthermore, you really can’t discipline other people’s kids which is why I quit teaching after 7 years. And I practice what I preach. I went to training school to become first a merchant seaman and then a barber. Teaching made me detest paper work so I gravitated to jobs with no paperwork.
But they are traditionally understaffed. They are more likely to have 30+ students per class. The money is in platinum benefits & pensions (that are all 100% funded by the district)) & bloated administrations.
Good basic teaching, being able to read and write and also do calculations is easy and not costly. A room, a good teacher and a drawing board. There is a lost focus about teaching the basics, in a basic way, that worked for multiple generations and is still relevant. A good teacher, well paid, is worth $4000/year.student, the room $400/year.student for 25 students (more is less), the furniture maybe $600/year.student. So it's essentially $5000/year for each student with a $100K+ well paid good teacher, so where all this money goes?!? PS: English is my third language that I essentially learned by myself, because my education gaves me tools to be able to learn and enjoy it.
There will never be enough dollars or little enough accountability to satisfy the K-12 educational fiefdom and their unions. In the end, the funding, must follow the student if parents are ever to genuinely have a voice in their children's education.
1:42 You know... If employers weren't responsible for providing healthcare, and a public option were available to everyone instead, perhaps more of your tax money would go back to you instead of compensating public employees exclusively... just food for thought.
We need to keep funding our schools and intern funding the teachers unions so they can contribute to the Democrat party to keep them in power so we can keep increasing school funding in order to be able to pay teachers more so they can pay their union dues so that the teachers union will have enough money to give to the Democrat party to keep them in power so we can be sure of having more school funding and round and round we go
Step 1: Get rid of the No Child Left Behind standardized tests and common core. I don't know if these were actually implemented with good intentions, but their effect has been entirely detrimental. They were political moves, not educational ones.
You *need* some sort of standardized testing, otherwise how do you know how badly you're failing? How can you say the kids are not learning at grade level if you don't have a standard test designed for that level to find out? What is done with kids who can not or _will not_ learn is a separate issue, but even there, how do you know they can't learn or just _aren't_ learning, for whatever reason, without a standard test? You need at least a *test.* The standard test lets you compare to some *standard.* That's the whole point.
What I think should happen is if we have no choices in paying for taxes for such things. Parents should be able to pull their kids out of public schools and the state will pay UP TO the amount it would cost of the kid to be in public school minus administrative fees. Like it says here $30k a year. Lets say fees for this program would take half of that. Still, having $15k from the state to put the kid in some private school or home school. It should be extremely doable. And in this it will create real competition between public, private, charter, and home schooling. This causing the student and parents to win, and this causes schools to change from being a babysitting place to an actual school.
It'll never happen. Private schools across the country teach better for less than any public school. If you mandated that at the national level every public school district would collapse within three years.
I live in a state where education outcomes are poor and the public discourse is always flipped to how the teachers are paid. Starting pay is certainly low while the average teacher pay is more than 10% above the median pay in the state. This leads me to think that the pay may be an issue in attracting new teacher but isn't at the root of the issue. In my local school system when my kid started there we had an introduction with his new teacher where we sat in a room with a new smart board. All of their classrooms had them. It was also quickly apparently that few if any of the staff new how to use them much less make better use of them than they get from a standard overhead projector. Based on the next several years of observation the 20k they spent per classroom throughout the entire school system added no value for the students and no benefits for the teachers in those classrooms.
I was homeschooled and just learned to read by the nature of being a thinking human being that lives on planet earth. If you cant do that shit on your own... Nobody should have money forcibly removed from their paychecks to make that easier for you.
My area's school district is Lake Washington School District. Guess what? There are three levies currently on the ballot right now. Three! They aren't small either because it adds up quickly when you already have high property taxes. This school district has also been teaching gender ideology to kindergartners too (I personally witnessed a teacher on Microsoft Teams saying to 5 year olds that kids can be boys, girls, or neither among other things) and honestly, the education isn't the best and LWSD is one of the better public school districts too. If I have children I am seriously going to consider alternatives to public education.
It's not underfunded it's just that it's meant to be a farm to domesticate you animals, not to educate your children. What are they teaching you these days?
The teaching methods matter. Simply throwing money at something will not fix anything. The students culture values matters most Asians students spend more time in home study compared to other non-asian students do. Just thrown more money into something don't fix anything.
Some breeds of dog really are more intelligent, more energetic, more desirous of play etc than other breeds. Everyone recognizes that, and no-one tries to deny it out of fear of being labelled a racist.
Do pensions come out of the education budget? Say on average a teacher lasts 20 years after retiring. Brand new private schools won't be paying 20 years worth of retirees for doing nothing. If benefits being paid now are put in the budget for when they were earned, would the budget increase look the same?
Is this the wrong place to bring up the only reason the Executive branch entanglement with what is constitutionally a local and state issue is because of 'Brown v. Board' and 'Brown II'? 'Good intentions' and all that.
I am from Wisconsin which is a rural state for the most part and it ranks higher than New York this is despite it being sightly below the national average of 14,737 dollars a year per pupil so as this shows pending is not the problem it is the UNIONS Who put there pinko politics over the education of American children
Just for clarification you mean there are localities that spend as much per student as it would cost to actually just live in most parts of the country? That’s almost two minimum wage jobs going to each student.
Ehh it's NY remember a dollar there is like 50 cents anywhere else. Cities have crappy living costs. That being said, they should be able to have student teacher ratios of 4 or 5 to 1 with that much money per pupil. I blame the increase in bureaucracy, administrators, and too many parents suing schools because their "special baby" didn't get a valet and constant care and whatnot like that. Abolish the federal department of education and you'll see things improve overnight imo
@@hippocleides7105 There is no reason to think that a low student to teacher ratio is a good idea. My Mother hated teaching small classes because one disruptive student could and would ruin the class for the others. She found that in larger classes the other students put peer pressure on the would be disruptive kids. My Mother was a very good teacher and kept an easy control of her classroom. Weak teachers, who cannot easily control a classroom might be far better off with smaller classes. Of course, the kids would be better off without those kinds of teachers.
@@Foolish188 There's no doubt that it could help from a class control perspective today, but the way that we control classes today also is a problem. Students need to be able to be suspended and put in detention, and not be coddled by folks, so the class management point is moot. Beyond that, I dont care how good or bad a teacher is, the more one on one time that they have with each student, the better the student outcomes. This is well borne out by looking at say, Massachusetts vs Oklahoma educational outcomes. (Or Maine v Oklahoma, that's probably a fairer comparison)
@@ic8575 There's different skill levels of teaching children to read, from the basic mechanics of recognizing letters and words that you'd learn in kindergarten, to the high school level skill of being able to read between the lines and analyze to understand the bigger picture of what an author is trying to tell you, to being able to navigate a piece of writing to look for the critical information when you don't have enough time to read it all. A skill commonly needed if reading is part of your job.
Damn. I'm here in Dallas paying school taxes and 10k/year/kid for private school. they're only 2 years ahead of their public counterparts haha. I'm gonna have privileged kids.
I was working for the city of Denton County, Texas with an old man who seemed to have the keys to every city building to pick up and drop off various things including recycling. One was a storage building for the city.
A 20k Sqft warehouse full of unused computers, vehicles, and even boats, and thousands of wet floor signs, owned by the Denton County school district and the caretaker of the property told me how they buy that stuff every year with the sole purpose of using the entire budget, so they can ask for more next year. If they didn't spend the entire budget, then next year they would give them a smaller budget. Then the Sherriff auctions it all off and they make even more money. That money goes directly to the city. It's almost sounds like racketeering...
The problem isn’t funding, it’s allocation and corruption. I'm sure it's a similar issue in a lot of counties.
When a government organization, or government funded organization, has to spend all of it's allocated money to get the same or more the following year, it's just going to create more waste and abuse like you said.
Unfortunately, that's how the system is set up. Until it's changed, for the better, it's only going to get worse!
I guess you could say they had a BOAT LOAD of cash left over to spend. Get it? Because of the boats.
I bet that "caretaker" was probably just a thief who had been collecting all that junk to satisfy his urges to be a cleptomaniac. And to think you fell for his story lmao.
And then Denton, TX schools spend the rest of the money on football! None left for actual education lol
Welcome to how the US Military funds its branches/bases/units.
@@Griggs58 eh a supermajority of military spending is just salaries and pensions
Thank you, Nick. This mindless mantra of "we just need more money" needs to end and redirect into something that can actually help those kids.
Accountability would help.
Money is a tool, if misapplied it can be dangerous, Dems just won't see that!
I’m so tired of hearing progressive propaganda about underfunding of schools, that we need more property tax to fund our schools.
@@Allangulon Don't just blame the Democrats. Republicans aren't much better. Both parties have far too many whose loyalties only serve those with the best campaign contributions.
@@uncaboat2399
But it's primarily blue states that under perform while asking for more money!
Red states are somewhat more transparent and responsible as to where the money is being spent!
"The underfunding of our -schools- _Teacher's Unions_ is tragic failure to -our students- _Democrats' Campaign coffers_ "
Interesting, my mom taught me and my brother to read before we started school, and it only cost her a set of "hooked on phonics" books. Mind, that was back in the 70s, so that stuff is I'm sure available online for free now...
Yep! My 5 year old was reading already by 4 years old. We just made sure to read a book a day at minimum and made sure he wasn't watching garbage on the TV. He watched plenty of TH-cam but we just made sure it was educational and not mindless lights flashing. All free!
We homeschool him now because he would be bored in school.
Hell yeah, my parents had a phonics card game that they played with me and my brothers when we were young. Don't really remember learning how to read anything in school, it was all that game and my mom reading books to me before bed.
Eh, I learned to read by age 3, and read well enough to mostly read TIME articles about the space program with minimal help by age 5, and we didn't have anything like hooked on phonics. Meanwhile, my daughter just wasn't interested, so could barely read by kindergarten, but within a couple months, was reading quite well, and is now well ahead of her grade level (3). That's common practice in the Ukraine, according to an immigrant who married into my wife's family, and pretty much all of the kids learn to read well enough within 2 months. Ukraine has one of the world's highest adult literacy rates, too.
Your mom invested some time and attention to your education. Public schools don't do that.
My kids both could resite all of the abc's, all the basic colors, and count to 20 before they were 3 years old.. and that was just by letting them watch a few educational vids on youtube for free.
I taught all three of my kids to read....with zero training other than a quick trip to the library. There is no excuse. And it's free. In 1800, the U.S. colonies had a 98% literacy rate among their English-speaking people. The kids aren't dumb. We have a lazy population that is hateful towards their kids.
IQ and attitude...
Different tribe.... Different culture.... different results
The problem is like what we are seeing on the streets. The homeless were kicked out and thrown into the streets. This population is growing. In education the classes got bigger, less people are going into the field, and students are not just struggling with reading but with trauma. Yet teachers beg for smaller class sizes and the Powers that be keep filling up the classes. Kids are not all coming from places where parents read to them. Teachers are also tasked to parent while trying to teach.
Really the only purpose of government schooling is to mold children into obedient drones and part of the statist hivemind. Compulsory government schooling was invented during the industrial revolution in the authoritarian German state of Prussia to be good soldiers and factory workers.
Well, it's not a big shock in an era where mothers are rioting for the legal right to kill their own babies...
In 1800 the states were not colonies. No literacy statistics were collected until the 1840 census. At that time, literacy was 91.5% among white people. "Literate" had a very broad definition then.
I recommend everyone to watch School Inc, the documentary has some very good insights on how people on other countries are doing better, despite the government, not because of it.
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 Do they teach Howard Zinn, Robin DiAngelo, Rebecca Solni, Jessica Valenti? Because that's what's in the public schools here.
Then we have Common Core math. 🤦🏻♂️ (It's doable but good gawd is it obnoxiously complicated and teachers often find themselves messing up on it. I've even seen the steps lead to the wrong solution.)
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 Science? And is that only one sided too or do they teach macro-evolutionism along side creation science as a matter of being fair and unbiased towards one side or another? Because I think that all that 4th wave feminism and CRT should be allowed to be taught in a fair and unbiased forum even though I think that they're toxic ideologies predicated on historical revisionism and the destruction of western civilization.
@@edwardawdziejczyk2084 I think science teachers shouldn't discuss the topics on macro-evolution or creation science unless the topic of the class is specifically something like "Where did we come from?" Or "Theoretical Origins #"
Personally, I want individuals making up their own minds on what they believe. I have seen some really high quality science education material out there when it isn't bogged down by either side of that but I find it's always too biased otherwise.
@@LovingPrinceTamayuki _I think science teachers shouldn't discuss the topics on macro-evolution_
so ... you think science teachers should *not* discuss science?
and I suppose math teachers should steer clear of any controversies involving algebra?
@@uncaboat2399 funny how you left out how I said "macro-evolution or creation science" (and even proceeded to give an example of where it could be discussed instead of bogging everything down with meaningless controversial infighting.)
But I suppose your option is fair too, to teach both macroevolution and creation science as true science and let the students figure out later that scientists disagree on that topic.
Abolish school districts. Leave schools to govern themselves. All the money is absorbed by school districts. Give money to schools individually and cut the middle men.
It's true. SAT scores dictated how much funding my school got from the district
the big thing is to let parents decide which school to go to. Too many places, the choice of school is made for you based on where you live. Sometimes a better school is across the street, but you can't go there coz you live on the wrong side of some arbitrary line. Let parents choose which schools they want, and schools will have to improve to keep from losing customers.
@@uncaboat2399 How do you solve who then gets in to the best school. I thin it might work that lower income family children will get higher priority and higher income family children will have to scratch for the worst
@@finlanderxx if we abolish the federal school system, small schools can pop up everywhere. Parents will have more choice than ever before, and teachers would be paid more than double what they earn now, all while abolishing the property taxes that rob people for government "schools".
Just give the money to parents and tell them they must spend 70% of it on school and can use the other 30% for private lessons. Willl cause private schools to appear.
We homeschool 4 kids for easily less than 5k a year , and I know what they’re being taught. and I don’t have worry about the teacher trying to explain their sexuality to my kids. Win-win
We homeschool three with crappy to no wifi. We spent way more money when they went to a brick and mortar school than we do now. My kids went to a private school but the money I am talking about is not the tuition it is the amount of money we had to spend on supplies throughout the year . Teachers told us what we had to buy and the supplies were kept at the school so we had to buy more for home. Then we would be hit up all year for fundraisers and kids who didn't sell enough would be shamed. Every single meeting of the PTA was about money for the school. That is all .
If Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman couldn't convince the public to abolish the DoE...who can?
Maybe you Kylie.
@@ic8575 good point ... more of us need to remind more people of these truths, and not just sit around watching the world get ruined a little at a time.
Someone who doesn't talk like a dumb libertarian.
@@somercet1 All libertarians are, are non extortionists. Seems fairly basic. Maybe the dumb people are the ones rooting for extortion and monetary manipulation.
At what point with the stagnating test results, will people finally realize it's not about wealth, but HOW we teach?
They are busy teaching intesectionalism, equality and such divisive stuff like that. They have too many crappy students. bad genes. bad home environment. No respect for education. Money cannot change that.
Well, if you look at test results, you will realize kids with wealthy parents do well no matter what school they go to, so it is about wealth.
@@theBear89451 or is it good parents are good with life choices thus wealthy.
@@theBear89451there is a correlation between wealth and student success. How do we know it’s a causal relationship?
Could it be that the involvement in their children’s education or expectations is different on average with wealthier parents?
Its not about how we teach, its about who we teach. Good students and good parents make better schools. That's all there is to it.
Really? My mom taught me to read for free, so that's weird.
Abolish the department of education.
Based
The full text of Rep. Tom Massie's recent House bill:
SECTION 1. TERMINATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
The Department of Education shall terminate on December 31, 2022.
And ban all public-sector unions.
I agree. What did deVos do other than stab Trump in the back?
You clearly don’t recognize the consequences of that. Since you probably wouldn’t believe me if I told you, I recommend you do your own research into what all the department of education does.
Given an instructor who knows the material, and a prepared and motivated student, you can teach quantum mechanics with a blackboard and chalk. We did for decades.
We’re doing it now with charter schools and to poor black and latino students who teachers unions claim are unmotivated and their parents don’t care
Okay Boomer-
My closest sister is a quantum computing researcher and I can say with confidence that this perspective is laughable.
Just because you *can* do something badly doesn't mean you should. A lesson most k-12 schools have failed to learn.
Yours is a perspective which is critically underinformed in how much time can be saved with computer assistance and a less hierarchical teacher-student dynamic.
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The schools don’t teach the basics _now_. Anyone with an IQ over 70 should be able to read.
We have college graduates who struggle to decode the words on the page. There’s nothing wrong with their intelligence. They weren’t taught to read properly. Anyone should be able to hear the text when they look at it.
The educational establishment discarded known, reliable, reading instruction methods, for various reasons. Phonetic reading instruction doesn’t need fancy equipment. It merely needs time and repetition.
Understanding the material is a separate issue.
@@bwake You have so many misconceptions about what reading level means and the current and past state of it.
It's really just a measure of how big of sentences and words the average reader has the patience for. It has very little to do with being able to vocalize a text. Even at the 4th grade level, being able to phonetically vocalize a text is considered such a given that it isn't even mentioned in the criteria for having a 'basic reading level', "Fourth-grade students performing at the NAEP Basic level should be able to locate relevant information, make simple inferences, and use their understanding of the text to identify details that support a given interpretation or conclusion. Students should be able to interpret the meaning of a word as it is used in the text."
And "The Educational Establishment" really has changed a laughably small amount over time, and this is reflected in the stagnant average reading level scores. Like here is a big ugly link to a chart to show you how, using the exact same measure since 1992, reading levels have basically stayed the same. And feel free to explore the data more granually to convince yourself.
Schools don't change because school districts and institutions are extremely, inflexibly conservative, changing/innovating as little as possible and using political tricks to squeeze more capital into the administrators' pockets.
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@@Ruby_V_
_You_ are talking about reading _comprehension_, which nobody can guarantee.
The schools don’t teach the basics. People get the reading equivalent of boggling on 6X7 in the middle of an algebra problem.
Reading is a skill, independent of comprehension.
As a retired teacher, underfunding is a myth created to explain the lack of student achievement. If a child is failing to learn, it comes down to one of two possibilities. One is high absences and the other is a need for an Individual Education Plan (IEP).
I remember being in public school in Canada. I miss being taught English by a recent Romanian immigrant who couldn't really speak English. I remember the science and math teachers who left halfway through the year on their sabbaticals and being replaced by a rotation of even more unqualified teachers. I remember all the teachers who complained about funding yet refused to use the new whiteboards. I remember my 12th grade biology professor would always say that fossil fuels should be abolished and that same professor spent more time flirting with the boys in the class than actually teaching.
Those who survived public schools know how trash it is. It's the same problem everywhere nowadays, even the excellent teachers are dragged down by the administrators and parents of troubled kids.
I went to public school in Canada too. All my teachers were great - my math and science teachers all had bachelor degrees from university in related fields, and my political science teacher was a huge vocal fan of Bill O'Reilly (he was originally from Buffalo so more into American politics).
Outcomes for the students I went to school with have been very good. It wasn't perfect in every way - the building was overcrowded which only got worse until a few years later the built a brand new school. You still had all the typical stuff you deal with in school too - drugs, kids growing up and not knowing better than being assholes to each other, teen pregnancy etc - but based on my overall experience I've always felt pretty confident that public schools are the best system - because the rich kids I knew and the poor kids were both getting a more equal opportunity at education - granted the overall wealth of the area the school served was relatively high.
@@ic8575 What province? Quebec public schools are crap, especially on the east end and north end of Montreal. West Island is better because it's much more affluent, but still all the rich kids went to private schools. I was lucky to be in a program called sport etudes so I didn't interact with the regular programs but if we had the best crop of teachers, I can imagine just how bad it was for the rest of the school.
My mother went to Catholic grammar school in the 1930's. She said at times there could have been 80 children in a class. In the 1960s there were 50 in each class at the Catholic school that I attended. Even the dull children learned to read. They made each student read out loud to the others which may have shamed some to spend more time in their books. In the late 60's at the Parochial HS that I attended which required an entrance exam there were 42 students in every class. I once read in a George Will column from late last century that the public school system in Washington DC had 1700 times more administration employees than the Catholic school system in the same city despite having only 3 times as many students. Couldn't possibly make this up if you wanted to.
For $300,000 I'd be willing to teach 10 students a year :D
It's not just teachers' salaries. It is the administrative costs, the cost of the building, the real estate, the electricity, the heating, the furniture, the maintenance, and all sorts of expenses that accumulate. Even though the teacher is the one providing the substance we are supposedly paying for, the teacher's salary is a drop in the bucket compared to the total expense of running a school.
@@carultch It's a lot of bloat. If you watch the video and read the article it references, you will see that spending has increased dramatically, but results have not. So for $300,000 I'm sure I could find some space to rent to teach 10 students a year and pocket the bulk of that money.
@@carultch Just stop at the administrative costs. The other things are tiny in comparison. The administrators make more than the teachers, and some of the larger districts have more administrators than teachers. Further, you can not have a school _without_ the costs of the building, electricity, etc., but there *_is_* an argument we *_can_* do without most of the administrators.
@@carultch In other industries, all that administrative kind of overhead typically runs around 100% of salaries. But teacher salaries are dramatically less than half the cost, because it's a giant single-provider organization with perverse incentives.
Education laws and the Department of Education need to be abolished.
Throwing money at a broken system doesn't work. Since the department of education was instituted in 1979 test scores have gone down.
You should look at Greenport, NY. It’s insane that they are spending over 26 million on a district with under 300 students. Best part? They wanted to spend 32 Million.
The problem is the cost of housing in New York City. Those teachers can't afford to rent in their community. They are required to commute to the community they teach in.
And those of us who have never had kids are paying for this anyway through property taxes.
You are paying for the privilege of hopefully not living in a country full of uneducated people. That's why childless people have to pay for education of kids they do not have.
@@carultch If you think the system we have now is doing an adequate job of preventing the problem you describe, you haven't been paying attention to the numerous Reason TV videos on the subject of education in America. Furthermore, the near monopoly of a one-size-fits-all public school system sets up a situation where people of differing educational philosophies will be constantly fighting over what that one size should be.
@@chrismiller5198 That's why I put the word "hopefully" in my comment. I know it isn't preventing the problem, but imagine how much worse it could be if over half the population didn't even attend school, due to parents who couldn't afford it .
@@carultch But even more basic is the libertarian principle that it is morally wrong to attempt to achieve even a laudable social goal through the use of force. Those who wish to support the public schools are totally free to do that voluntarily. They, however don't have the right to advocate that anyone should be forced to pay.
Beyond just just school choice, give full tax refunds for those who home school or no school their kids. I could do a heck of a lot better for my family if I could cut my taxes by 30k.
How does increasing wages likewise increase the hours in a day? As a taxpayer, I’ve given every benefit of the doubt to teachers in the past and voted for raises, etc. with no change in results.
Tired of the b.s.
There’s a reason I want to homeschool my children when I have them. Most of the greatest minds did not go through a public education system. Throwing money at a problem fixes nothing.
Underfunding in LA….despite all the taxes we pay. What a joke.
Funny how people who live in municipalities and states with the highest taxes end up getting the worst government services!
Meanwhile the superintendent gets multiple salary bonuses every year in addition to a 6-figures salary.
My highest paid tenured teachers sat on their ass and handed out textbooks and worksheets and didn't even say good luck. End tenure now
Local school district spends 800,000 a year on a biomass heat and power plant that displaces $200,000/ year. It's second worst district in Alaska, and that shows why. They spend the money on "special" projects and not on actual education.
Out of the top five professions of people who retire as millionaires, teachers are number three. First two are engineers, and accountants. Doctors are sixth.
Save a mind, bust a Teacher Union
...School vouchers
Nys(L)ut won't stop until they get 100% property tax rate from you.
I remember union members complaining about getting only 150k/yr... When the community had a median income of about $24k.
Abolish public employee unions as well. Nobody who is paid with tax dollars should be allowed to unionize.
If this is true that’s $900,000 for a class of 30 students where is that money going?
Never understood how it's always "funding". A teacher who can't teach won't be a better teacher with more pay unless they're admitting that they're only doing what they think they're getting paid to do.
Could work in the long term. Higher pay attracts smarter people to those jobs. But in the meantime, you're paying dunces exorbitantly.
That because you take them at their word that they're trying to educate children rather than grift for money. I can understand why a conman wants more of my money, can you?
Most of the money goes to administration. I say this as a teacher in California.
@@Gary_oldmans_left_nut There is no correlation between class size and outcome. Big class, small class, it makes no difference. What's important is the work ethic of the kid and the attitude of the parents. All the money in the world won't change that.
What a dumb comment. Do you work for free? Do you do your job for money or is it just the goodness of your heart?
If those kid grow up at 18 and still can't read we no longer have a nation
As a public high school educator, I approve this message.
I have always disliked politicians supporting specialized pay raises for state and municipal employees, as if teachers deserve more of a raise than police officers. Whether the employee is a secretary, a teacher, or a fireman, no one is more precious to the "common good" than the other.
The only way to know how much we should spend in education is with a free market on education. Any coercive force in it will distort information and drive prices towards the will of a few (the coerces) rather than everyone.
Bro. Free market education. Talk about corporatism in schools already sheesh
Creating a profit motive to educate kids, where the already richest people get access to best education and the poor simply get nothing. Genius! Sounds like you are a product of this system
@@joela.4058 Given that the Weimar educational is highly socialist, aimed at creating slogan-driven, state-submited individual, it seems I am not the one that is a product of this system.
But just out of curiosity: What's your suggestion?
No matter what you do some people will value education higher than others. There will always be a gap between those who read books and those who don't, those who study their math, science and history and those who don't. It doesn't matter how much money someone spends on you, it matters how you spend your time and your attitude towards learning. There are a lot of uneducated intelligent people and many many more educated idiots.
Schools cannot fix the anti intellectualism of modern popular culture. I asked one of my college students what kinds of books she liked to read. She looked shocked and offended as she told me she had NEVER read a book. Schools may be awful, but even good teachers can’t overcome student apathy toward the importance of learning.
It costs approximately $21, 000 to teach one student k through 12. I just wish they'd make it so that that money follows one specific student instead of just throwing it into a giant pot. There would be way more school choice if that was an option.
Frankly, the ability to read beginning at an early age begins at home. If a child is behind when they enter kindergarten, it is difficult for them to catch up without some support at home.
It's funny at how much taxes we pay and our school district gets like a billion each year but it's still not enough. They should be asking where the money is allocated vs increasing taxes
There is a fundamental flaw in the argument for this video. The reason why charter schools succeed is because they are filled with kids that have parents that care about their education. A child's education strongly depends on the home environment. Parents that are absent or uninterested in their children's education give the children no reason to succeed. This is often manifested by behavioral problems and learning impairments that can be insurmountable obstacles for teachers to overcome. Most teachers can only hope to maintain classroom control when their roster has several of these sorts in a room of 20 to 25 students. I'm a parent of a teenager in public school that excels academically, and I know the only reason for this is because I would never have settled for him to have not done his best or to get failing grades. Kids from bad homes can be unteachable, the public school is not equipped, nor capable of raising these children, their job is only to teach them.
What I've seen is the money goes to administrators not teachers.
Back in the 50's and 60's in our small-town Indiana school, most 6th. grade students read at grade levels above national average, I read at a junior in college level. What is the difference? Books, people don't read or write anymore, they spend too much time with their faces in one screen or another, while we spent that time in the library.
To parents: turn off all electronics and take away the phone for at least one hour a day, every day from kindergarten to finishing high school and have your kids read and do math. This is what a good parent does. Bad parents don’t care.
I bet that if the state of NY paid parents $30k if their kids could read/pass whatever test was necessary by the end of the year, you could probably take it to the bank that parents would have their kids reading and passing tests by the end of that year - no teachers required.
$3O,OOO per pupil in NY Public Schools. What a racket. Who is really getting this money? It probably isn't the students. It's most likely going to administrators, outside consultants, teacher's unions, and a plethora of other experts and officials. They need vouchers, vouchers everywhere not vultures.
Never met a five year old who wasn't born to be a Scientist, a Police Officer, and a Teacher. Then they go to school and it gets beaten out of them.
Then you have to join a union to be a cop or firefighter. No thanks.
Almost everything experiences severe deflation in our technological revolution except for three things... Real estate, education, and Healthcare.
The three most government-involved industries.
We have not yet figured out how to build more land, so I think real estate is a bit different.
Highschool math teacher at my local Highschool makes $160,000/year in salary and benefits...
Why should kids learn? They'll get to the next grade either way.
Yep. The poorer the students' performance, the more money they request. Easy to see where this leads. Ought to tie pay to students' performance increases. No increase, no pay. Why do we keep paying for ineffective teaching?
Who's surprised? A lot of that 30,000 somehow finds it's way into her campaign fund...
Like 60-70% of my state taxes go to the school district! We are basically spending all our money on pensions and new buildings!
To be fair with all the low income benefits you collect, 60-70% of your state taxes is only around $1.95.
Well I agree, 30k is shit for pay. So, raise the pay, but get rid of tenure. Make teachers competitive and work for their pay raises. Oh, and get rid of teacher's unions. Useless.
My big awakening to this was when I was at a school budget meeting once and they showed they were buying pencils for $1.247 (per pencil) but in the line item they had rounded to $1.24 (per pencil) and not to $1.25 (per pencil); and I’m thinking that’s not right you need to round up when it comes to money so you don’t get screwed by that $0.007. Then I was home from college and someone came up to me and my dad and said we need to vote yes to give the schools more money bc they need it to finish the water pipes at the high school I just graduated from; which made me think did they have us in an area that wasn’t habitable for kids or did they just wanted more money and using that as an excuse to get it. Back then I was naive and would have been ok it a price increase had they been honest and I agree with the reason, but to be lied to I dig in my heels and have ever since.
Spending a dollar per pencil is criminal. I can buy 300 for $15
Because numbers are fun. Average school size is 527 students. Most states require at least 180 school days per year. That is enough pencils to give every student a new pencil every day.
@@MrJeramyMckay you really don’t know how often kids loose pencils lol
$1.25 per pencil?! I buy my kid pretty good pencils like cedar Ticonderoga and Papermate Mirado Black Warrior. Those go for $0.23-0.30 per pencil. I can buy a 150-pack of serviceable Amazon Basics or other generic pencils for $10-15. How the hell can a school buying in bulk not do better than me ordering from Amazon? $1.25 is the price for too-good-for-school-kids pencils like Tombow MONO soft lead or imported Japanese pencils (great for crosswords on soft paper, BTW)!
@@techhelpportal7778 😆. Fair. One of my comments seems to have not posted. Probably got scrubbed as spam. Had website and dollar signs in it.
Found a place you can get 100k pencils for about 1 cent each.
I dated a school teacher who taught high school just north of LA last year and from my experience school teachers are grossly OVERPAID.
She had plenty of expendable income available to travel internationally, eat out all the time and buy Dior bags but she would still feel me that she was underpaid.
She refused to teach summer school/Saturday school/detention or chaperone school dances because, in her words, that was for "losers".
Parents read to your children as babies. Teach them hand sign and sight words. My son was reading sight words at 18 months by himself and reading fully by 3 years old. Families need to start taking some responsibility for the children themselves and teach them better.
Sign language for kids without deaf relatives or neighbors is one of those fads that parents pick up without any evidence that it is a good idea. Remember Baby Mozart? My niece and nephew were speaking in short, but complete sentences at 18 months, their own oldest were taught using hand gestures as well. The oldest 2 were not speaking clearly or with full sentences at age 2. Their younger kids are both using sentences and speak well at the same ages after I convinced them to drop the hand gestures. Don't experiment on your kids without a good reason, fads are not a good reason.
I wish the K-12 education was basically the same as when our parents were in school, the US had a pretty high literacy rate back then.
As a North Carolinian I graduated a few years ago from a fine public school which was properly managed. Meanwhile other schools fail with more resources and people assume that my education was bad because "NC schools don't have money"
Agreed. North Carolina has long done pretty well with education, though with the recent increases in funding I'm afraid those days may be ending.
The price tag goes up while the expectations placed on parents also goes up. When I was in school, teachers taught us to read. If I were to put any of my children in school now, they need to know how to read before being enrolled. Couple that with the insane amounts of homework and parents don't seem to realize they're just homeschooling their kids after work hours and being taxed for babysitters during the day.
I went to high school in the nineties, in California. The principal of my high school had four secretaries, not counting other front office personel. Also, the high school had three vice principals and each of them had, at least, one secretary. Administration eats up all the funding.
To busy teaching them to be woke to worry about reading
Embezzlement is likely what’s happening. It’s all throughout the US government. Not just education
I over spent on my boys education. Around $300 on each one of them this past year. All of them can read, including the preschooler.
I was a student in NYC elementary, middle, and high schools in the 2000s. It was child abuse. I was taught almost nothing, it was a prison and I knew it. Everyone knew it, all you had to do was look at the room full of students who didn't want to be there but were legally required to, at the bars in the windows to prevent escape, and at the uniformed security guards patrolling the big ugly buildings to make sure students didn't leave before they were supposed to.
I can't speak for everyone, but there is no doubt that I would have been far better off on my own with an apartment and a library card. I should have skipped school and applied to a local community college instead. I'm sure it would have been better for me, even though the local community college options are poor. At least they were teaching actual skills, to students who wanted to learn, and would match students with what they desired or needed to learn. K-12 schoolwork was essentially busywork and we were graded on obedience. If you weren't one of the least intelligent children, you were neglected and didn't benefit from the lessons teaching to woefully inadequate minimum standards.
I'm not anti-school. Some private schools offer tremendous resources and educational guidance to their students, and have student bodies motivated to excel. Good schools don't have to be expensive, as some charter schools are producing results far superior to public schools and comparable to private schools at budgets less than public or private.
I mostly agree with what you’re saying. At the very least, you would expect that an educational institution would cultivate leisure time for recreational reading rather than making everything a group activity and a chore with such a punitive atmosphere. But the fact remains that the bottom two/thirds of the population in terms of intelligence really needs skills training which are mostly manual in nature, and not this rote book learning crap shoved down everyone’s gullet en masse.
@@marcmeinzer8859 I completely agree that most of the most important classes are the ones that have been devalued removed from schools: home economics, civics, health, manual skills like wood or machine shop and gardening, and career skills. The only instruction of such value they still teach is reading, writing, and arithmetic, and that's only taught in the first three grades. Most everything taught after that seems to go in one ear and out the other for most students, who never use it. History is still taught, but extremely poorly and you cannot expect an American high school graduate to know the basics of world history. Nor even a college graduate these days.
The most important thing to teach children is how to function as an adults. Schools don't teach this. And unfortunately, it cannot be assumed that students will learn what they need outside of school under the care of a competent parent. Besides basic knowledge and good values, children should reach adulthood knowing how to take care of themselves in adulthood, and ideally reaching maturity with skills to be employable in a decent career. They could go on to do anything else, but ideally kids should gain competency in a decent trade so that they'll always be able to provide for themselves. And they need to know how to take care of themselves in the world, financially, socially, physically, and in every other way that can be reasonably taught. None of this is taught in schools. Kids sit around memorizing advanced math skills they'll never use and will immediately forget. Teach that to engineering and mathematics majors. Students graduate high school completely unemployable with no useful skills and no idea how to get a job, pay taxes, provide food and shelter for themselves, and function socially.
@@Paelorian I completely agreed with everything you say. Putting all one’s eggs in the basket of being admitted to an elite university to presumably learn marketable skills like electrical engineering to go make a killing starting a tech company is unrealistic in the sense that you could get pigeonholed into a corner where it’s not working for you, then you’ll be forced to regress to for instance being an electrician installing things or what have you. Everybody needs to have a fall back position when the upper middle class pipe-dream proves to be an illusion. Since I disliked student teaching I enlisted in the navy to learn marine navigation as a submarine quartermaster then obtained the basic merchant mariner’s document, or Z card upon discharge from the Coast Guard where I was sworn in as a merchant mariner making me eligible to join the union[s] to ship out. Then subsequently after getting upgraded to able bodied seaman & lifeboatman at a maritime academy I was able to join, in succession, the Great Lakes Sailors Union, or United Steel Workers Local #5,000 then the Seafarers International Union and then also the National Maritime Union. When I got fed up with living on ships I went to barber college. Somewhere in the middle I attended both truck driver’s school and forklift operators school with the military sealift command since they have forklifts aboard roll on/roll off vehicle carrying ships with the giant loading ramps. To me management work such as teaching school is a bunch of political nonsense. In other words I have no interest in supervising people if I cannot get them flunked out or expelled, in the case of useless students, or fired, in the case of useless staff. Supervising useless people is nothing but babysitting. I would prefer to do haircuts all day at $60 per hour when busy rather than putting up with annoying lazy and disagreeable kids or asshole adults. As a barber shop owner you simply refuse to wait on the assholes or call the police if they threaten you. As a shopkeeper you’re also allowed to have firearms. People like school teachers get assaulted and then to make it worse the douchebag administrators blame it on the teachers and ask them to resign if they were forced to punch out some violently assaultive 17 year old juvenile delinquent on probation who’s on the stupid football team and thinks he can wander the halls sexually molesting the school girls.
I have been teaching for over 25 year and I can tell you that its not about money. Its not even really about the teachers. Its about the kids and the parents.
"parents" pass on genetics and culture/ social conditioning
IQ and Attitude No amount of $$$ can change that
Absolutely. Intelligence is 80% hereditary. If there are no books in the home then the kids won’t read. And the average adult has only a sixth grade reading level. The bottom two/thirds of the kids cognitively need manual skills training overwhelmingly in preference to all this phony liberal arts crap presented mostly in picture books with a low print area for Christ’s sake. They’ve got to be kidding. The average person with a dull normal IQ of 100 doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of making it through college. So what happened to all of the industrial arts and trades training such as auto mechanics, culinary arts, or really anything that a normal person could do to earn a living? And furthermore, you really can’t discipline other people’s kids which is why I quit teaching after 7 years. And I practice what I preach. I went to training school to become first a merchant seaman and then a barber. Teaching made me detest paper work so I gravitated to jobs with no paperwork.
If the parents aren’t involved, even $100k a year won’t help.
$30,000 per student times 20 (at a minimum) students per classroom is $600,000 per classroom. What is that being spent on?
But they are traditionally understaffed. They are more likely to have 30+ students per class. The money is in platinum benefits & pensions (that are all 100% funded by the district)) & bloated administrations.
Good basic teaching, being able to read and write and also do calculations is easy and not costly.
A room, a good teacher and a drawing board.
There is a lost focus about teaching the basics, in a basic way, that worked for multiple generations and is still relevant.
A good teacher, well paid, is worth $4000/year.student, the room $400/year.student for 25 students (more is less), the furniture maybe $600/year.student.
So it's essentially $5000/year for each student with a $100K+ well paid good teacher, so where all this money goes?!?
PS: English is my third language that I essentially learned by myself, because my education gaves me tools to be able to learn and enjoy it.
There will never be enough dollars or little enough accountability to satisfy the K-12 educational fiefdom and their unions. In the end, the funding, must follow the student if parents are ever to genuinely have a voice in their children's education.
1:42 You know... If employers weren't responsible for providing healthcare, and a public option were available to everyone instead, perhaps more of your tax money would go back to you instead of compensating public employees exclusively... just food for thought.
Get rid of teachers unions, common core, no child left behind, CRT, & government needs to stay the hell out of it.
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We need to keep funding our schools and intern funding the teachers unions so they can contribute to the Democrat party to keep them in power so we can keep increasing school funding in order to be able to pay teachers more so they can pay their union dues so that the teachers union will have enough money to give to the Democrat party to keep them in power so we can be sure of having more school funding and round and round we go
Well, you make me laugh so hard. But you are right.
Naive me, I thought that this thing could only happen in ex communist countries like Romania, not in the great USA.
Step 1: Get rid of the No Child Left Behind standardized tests and common core. I don't know if these were actually implemented with good intentions, but their effect has been entirely detrimental. They were political moves, not educational ones.
Agreed. We need to start leaving more children behind. Some of them are really slow - especially the fat ones who sort of waddle.
You *need* some sort of standardized testing, otherwise how do you know how badly you're failing? How can you say the kids are not learning at grade level if you don't have a standard test designed for that level to find out?
What is done with kids who can not or _will not_ learn is a separate issue, but even there, how do you know they can't learn or just _aren't_ learning, for whatever reason, without a standard test?
You need at least a *test.* The standard test lets you compare to some *standard.* That's the whole point.
Yoh fail the class, you retake it
What I think should happen is if we have no choices in paying for taxes for such things. Parents should be able to pull their kids out of public schools and the state will pay UP TO the amount it would cost of the kid to be in public school minus administrative fees.
Like it says here $30k a year. Lets say fees for this program would take half of that. Still, having $15k from the state to put the kid in some private school or home school. It should be extremely doable.
And in this it will create real competition between public, private, charter, and home schooling. This causing the student and parents to win, and this causes schools to change from being a babysitting place to an actual school.
It'll never happen. Private schools across the country teach better for less than any public school. If you mandated that at the national level every public school district would collapse within three years.
I live in a state where education outcomes are poor and the public discourse is always flipped to how the teachers are paid. Starting pay is certainly low while the average teacher pay is more than 10% above the median pay in the state. This leads me to think that the pay may be an issue in attracting new teacher but isn't at the root of the issue.
In my local school system when my kid started there we had an introduction with his new teacher where we sat in a room with a new smart board. All of their classrooms had them. It was also quickly apparently that few if any of the staff new how to use them much less make better use of them than they get from a standard overhead projector. Based on the next several years of observation the 20k they spent per classroom throughout the entire school system added no value for the students and no benefits for the teachers in those classrooms.
My wife is an educator, and she would not approve of this message.
Then she has her head in the sand.
@@sweetiespoon5150 I second. Lol
I was homeschooled and just learned to read by the nature of being a thinking human being that lives on planet earth. If you cant do that shit on your own... Nobody should have money forcibly removed from their paychecks to make that easier for you.
My area's school district is Lake Washington School District. Guess what? There are three levies currently on the ballot right now. Three! They aren't small either because it adds up quickly when you already have high property taxes. This school district has also been teaching gender ideology to kindergartners too (I personally witnessed a teacher on Microsoft Teams saying to 5 year olds that kids can be boys, girls, or neither among other things) and honestly, the education isn't the best and LWSD is one of the better public school districts too. If I have children I am seriously going to consider alternatives to public education.
It's so much worse than this. You need to watch James Lindsay's Groomer Schools series.
I think I see the mistake. This whole video assumes the public education system's priority is to improve education standards.
It's not underfunded it's just that it's meant to be a farm to domesticate you animals, not to educate your children. What are they teaching you these days?
The teaching methods matter. Simply throwing money at something will not fix anything.
The students culture values matters most Asians students spend more time in home study compared to other non-asian students do.
Just thrown more money into something don't fix anything.
Some breeds of dog really are more intelligent, more energetic, more desirous of play etc than other breeds. Everyone recognizes that, and no-one tries to deny it out of fear of being labelled a racist.
30k is the median us salary. You could ditch the schools and just higher a low skill employee to tutor the kid.
I for one would much rather teach a kid to read then mow vast, hilly, and overall miserable fields of grass all day.
And I can get results too.
The Bible is a HISTORY book full of wisdom, your children need to learn the first 10 books. PLUS, eating healthy daily.
30% of my property taxes go to my local school, how are they under funded 🤔
Now let's get the school district demographics...
Do pensions come out of the education budget? Say on average a teacher lasts 20 years after retiring. Brand new private schools won't be paying 20 years worth of retirees for doing nothing. If benefits being paid now are put in the budget for when they were earned, would the budget increase look the same?
Is this the wrong place to bring up the only reason the Executive branch entanglement with what is constitutionally a local and state issue is because of 'Brown v. Board' and 'Brown II'?
'Good intentions' and all that.
Maybe they just need to pay $40,000 per student. Yeah. That’s it. $40,000.
And where dose the money goes to? Why it goes to the bureaucrats.
I am from Wisconsin which is a rural state for the most part and it ranks higher than New York this is despite it being sightly below the national average of 14,737 dollars a year per pupil so as this shows pending is not the problem it is the UNIONS Who put there pinko politics over the education of American children
Just for clarification you mean there are localities that spend as much per student as it would cost to actually just live in most parts of the country?
That’s almost two minimum wage jobs going to each student.
Ehh it's NY remember a dollar there is like 50 cents anywhere else. Cities have crappy living costs. That being said, they should be able to have student teacher ratios of 4 or 5 to 1 with that much money per pupil. I blame the increase in bureaucracy, administrators, and too many parents suing schools because their "special baby" didn't get a valet and constant care and whatnot like that.
Abolish the federal department of education and you'll see things improve overnight imo
@@hippocleides7105 There is no reason to think that a low student to teacher ratio is a good idea. My Mother hated teaching small classes because one disruptive student could and would ruin the class for the others. She found that in larger classes the other students put peer pressure on the would be disruptive kids. My Mother was a very good teacher and kept an easy control of her classroom. Weak teachers, who cannot easily control a classroom might be far better off with smaller classes. Of course, the kids would be better off without those kinds of teachers.
@@Foolish188 There's no doubt that it could help from a class control perspective today, but the way that we control classes today also is a problem. Students need to be able to be suspended and put in detention, and not be coddled by folks, so the class management point is moot. Beyond that, I dont care how good or bad a teacher is, the more one on one time that they have with each student, the better the student outcomes. This is well borne out by looking at say, Massachusetts vs Oklahoma educational outcomes. (Or Maine v Oklahoma, that's probably a fairer comparison)
I taught my kid to read… parents just need to step tf up
"Why can't Johnny read? Why can't Johnny read?...God that get's old."
- Principal Carl Moss
... I have taught all the grades, from kindergarten through 12. I know how to teach kids how to read. It's easy.
Why did you need to teach kids in grade 12 to read? Are you sure they weren't tricking u into thinking they were illiterate?
@@ic8575 There's different skill levels of teaching children to read, from the basic mechanics of recognizing letters and words that you'd learn in kindergarten, to the high school level skill of being able to read between the lines and analyze to understand the bigger picture of what an author is trying to tell you, to being able to navigate a piece of writing to look for the critical information when you don't have enough time to read it all. A skill commonly needed if reading is part of your job.
Damn. I'm here in Dallas paying school taxes and 10k/year/kid for private school. they're only 2 years ahead of their public counterparts haha. I'm gonna have privileged kids.